That was the best ATC I have heard in a long time with an emergency aircraft. He understood the pilots had a lot going on and gave them info the/he needed but gave them time to deal with things. Not constantly bugging them for souls and fuel on board.
They are all highly qualified and highly trained professionals. They know their jobs. No need to panic nor for ATC to place the flight crew under any pressure.
No second-guessing any decision here - well done to all involved. However, why would they choose to land on the shortest runway at YYZ with a hydraulic issue?
I don't know YYZs procedures, but here's my best guess: The northern rwy (05/23) is probably mainly used for cargo and general aviation. 350@15G20 would have allowed for 33, but current landing direction was 06. It would have been crossing the eastern rwys. 33L is about the same length as 06R and far away from the passenger gates. 33R might also have been in use for westbound departures. Judging by them not having CAT II/III procedures, 33/15 don't seem to be preferred for landing. 06L/R seem to be the main arrival runways for passenger planes and 06R was probably also used for eastbound departures. If the plane caused 06L to shutdown, there is a good chance that crossing it for departures would have caused a delay and arrivals might have to taxi quite a bit, depending on where the plane stopped and where it leaked fluid or parts. There are also some wingspan related restrictions, making 06R operations more annoying/complicated. Since 06R is also the most out of the way, it is definitly the best choice for TWR to block. The lost hydraulic system didn't seem to impact nosewheel steering or braking, so landing distance was probably not much longer than normal. A 737-700 also doesn't need that much rwy to land. As seen in the video, they stopped about halfway down the rwy. Plenty of space to spare. As later mentioned, the hydraulic issue impacted flaps, but they were either able to drop them or the issue occured after (partially) dropping them. Therefore, approach speed also wasn't a problem.
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That was the best ATC I have heard in a long time with an emergency aircraft. He understood the pilots had a lot going on and gave them info the/he needed but gave them time to deal with things. Not constantly bugging them for souls and fuel on board.
very professional all around: pilot, ATC and ground.
They are all highly qualified and highly trained professionals. They know their jobs. No need to panic nor for ATC to place the flight crew under any pressure.
Nice work all
Gee, that couldn't have sounded more routine if it actually was routine. Potentially serious situation, but nobody got too worked up aboot it!
yep very professional
Canadians are so polite.
doan-cha-know ey!
No second-guessing any decision here - well done to all involved. However, why would they choose to land on the shortest runway at YYZ with a hydraulic issue?
I don't know YYZs procedures, but here's my best guess:
The northern rwy (05/23) is probably mainly used for cargo and general aviation. 350@15G20 would have allowed for 33, but current landing direction was 06. It would have been crossing the eastern rwys. 33L is about the same length as 06R and far away from the passenger gates. 33R might also have been in use for westbound departures. Judging by them not having CAT II/III procedures, 33/15 don't seem to be preferred for landing.
06L/R seem to be the main arrival runways for passenger planes and 06R was probably also used for eastbound departures.
If the plane caused 06L to shutdown, there is a good chance that crossing it for departures would have caused a delay and arrivals might have to taxi quite a bit, depending on where the plane stopped and where it leaked fluid or parts. There are also some wingspan related restrictions, making 06R operations more annoying/complicated.
Since 06R is also the most out of the way, it is definitly the best choice for TWR to block.
The lost hydraulic system didn't seem to impact nosewheel steering or braking, so landing distance was probably not much longer than normal. A 737-700 also doesn't need that much rwy to land. As seen in the video, they stopped about halfway down the rwy. Plenty of space to spare.
As later mentioned, the hydraulic issue impacted flaps, but they were either able to drop them or the issue occured after (partially) dropping them. Therefore, approach speed also wasn't a problem.
143 happy souls!
No. It was 138, including 5 crew.
A figure given for souls on board always includes all crew members.
Did they know
Does the hydraulic fluid hit the ground from 5000 or does it aerosolize?
i would bet a fair bit of money on aerosolize, but i wouldn't know
Not necessarily at a normal approach speed and low altitude - probably stripped the paint off some cars lol
@@andyasdf2078that is crazy. What if it lands on someone?
Great job Real Pros 🫡