I have Had It With People Bashing Ringo Starr Of The Beatles, Here’s Why…
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- I have had it with people bashing Ringo Starr. In this video I give ( with help of a few drum friends the reasons why I’m tired of it and why Ringo truly is a great and legendary drummer and why you need to revisit the Beatles catalogue and rethink your negative opinion on Ringo!
This video is dedicated to my long time friend Mike Rittenhouse!
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** additional note I forgot to mention in the video that the band I use to play in opened up for Pete Best’s band and even he said how great Ringo was and the songs would not have been the same without him!!
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Hey Todd! That's 300 incredibly simple songs in 7 years.
Nothing could be further from the truth!
Agreed .... there's nothing complex about any one of the Beatles songs ....
Ringo was just at the right place at the right time. And he was easy to get along with.
That’s the way it was back then for almost every band!
Miles Davis would have laughed him out of the studio..
Miles was awesome I love miles but totally irrelevant to Ringo. My favourite jazz drummers are Philly Joe Jones and Tony Williams both played with Miles!
And lets be totally honest, had Ringo never met John & Paul the world would never have heard of him
@commonsense4257 tue but that could be said of almost any band had they not met nobody would have heard of them. Also I played in a Beatles tribute opening for Pete best and Pete said to me that Ringo was and always will be the best fit for the Beatles. He was a little bummed of course that he missed out but admits Ringo was the man!
"Perfect" drum parts? Well, that's certainly subjective.
Nobody could have done it better so yes perfect drum parts!
@@drumteacher43 ...
How do you know nobody could have done it better ... you seem to think your word is law and that everybody should follow your opinion. OK, I get it, you love Ringo, but some don't and their opinion is just as valid as yours !It's all subjective ......
Great video. You don't have to convince me that Ringo and the Beatles were great. I am a bit older and my first influences were the old jazz masters (Gene Krupa) , however I was watching when the Beatles hit the tv for the first time and I was greatly influenced by Ringo, absolutely. I have been playing now since since 1967--all kinds of bands and I still do. The only criticism I have of your video and I think a shared criticism that might be held by Ringo nay-sayers, is your use of superlatives and absolutes. We must remember that music like art is very subjective and even though you say you are not trying to convince us, you have not allowed any room for discussion, because you have closed the door. Its the opportunity to discuss Ringo and the Beatles and any music really that makes us all open to education. If you want to teach us then leave the door open. I thought about why I can't stand "bashers" like Barker or Chad Smith-they play their music well: loud, cutting, bashing singles --but I don't like the music-its not the music I listen to. It's not fair for me to criticize these drummers because of the music they play. I think great drummers are Weckl, Stanton Moore, Buddy Rich-but jazz and fusion is the music I love. I have played top 40 (for years) and loved it-I understand playing in a dance band--you have one comment on here "The Beatles suck"-isn't that my point? He doesn't say Ringo sucks-he doesn't appreciate the Beatles , not his style of music, and thats fine. There's so much music out there, something for everyone. People can put Ringo down-they're allowed (albeit they should consider good, quality references for their opinion-but that doesn't always happen) . Even though you end with the suggestion that critics of Ringo's playing should listen and study all those Beatles tunes--which is a good suggestion, don't ever say he or any other drummer is absolutely the best--because you are not allowing us to discover for ourselves. Say "I think he was great, and I hope you will too." Thanks for your video and comments.
Definately the right approach to this subject.
If you genuinely love and appreciate Ringo, you have to acknowledge that he didn't come to an end with the Beatles. Everyone tends to talk about him in the past tense. However, he's still playing and has only improved with age and sobriety between his solo career and an exhaustive session catalog recording for other artists. Some of that session work is uncredited! He's been one of my biggest influences as a drummer but the reality is that I have learned the most from him through study of his post-Beatles career. I discovered that he does have technical ability. He does know how to use rudiments. He can play very credible jazz (I saw this in Spain). He's no Buddy Rich or Lenny White, of course. But I thoroughly enjoyed it.
Absolutely 👍 fantastic comment!
There should be no debate. Ringo was a great drummer. Played to what the song needed. One of my favorites.
Absolutely 👍 thanks for your comment
Ringo’s era was just before the explosion of drum instruction and techniques and technology. If you want to see Ringo in his future, watch his son Zak with the Who….the son is simply fantastic! Where did that talent come from? Truly Ringo is the song drummer as you say. He had the musical listening and phrasing ability as you say for the song…In the future, Ringo II he will be playing on a spaceship tour!
Yes very true, I’ve seen Zack with the Who he is great!
I Love Ringo! Unfortunately my Wife doesn't care for his Style and Technique which has led me to not cover his material While we play Live music together. The unique thing about Ringo is I believe he is a left handed Drummer playing a right hand Kit ,but not open handed. 😉 correct me if I'm mistaken
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Wow, I like that, lol yes you are correct he is a lefty
first drummer to ride the floor tom ?!?!
errrr, you've never heard california sun by the rivieras recorded two years previous !?!?!
and many more surf beats?!
Thanks for watching, I was not aware of that. But of course I did mention Gene Krupa featured the floor Tom in 1938’s Sing Sing Sing. Surf music often did feature the Tom’s quite a bit.
I have Been playing for 65 years, and still.... he did exactly what he had to do for the music... just like Charlie. They didn't need a Neil Peart drummer. He was perfect for the band.
100% agree
Even Paul McCartney once said yes Ringo had great rhythm but his biggest contribution was making us all laugh
this is why i dont enjoy drumming for singer songwriter types. even if you do exactly what you need to to serve the music the majority of ppl will simply overlook your contribution and disrespect you for being just a drummer. i enjoy playing the technically advanced stuff because then there is absolutely no room for disrespect you will see exactly why you should respect my art form. No one is going to say this kind of stuff to max roach or even stewart copeland
That's why I'm in a band with just 4 drummers and no guitars or singers! 😂
Lmao, nice in music school we called that percussion ensemble!! 😎
I can’t say I agree with you. Some of the best drummers have backed up singers and were groove/song drummers and are highly respected
Bernard Purdie
Jeff porcaro
Steve Jordan
Levon Helm
Al Jackson
Johnathon Sugarfoot Moffett
Hal Blaine
Kenny Aronoff
Just to name a few
@@drumteacher43 I think i need to be more specific with what i was saying. All of those guys are great but there are several on that list that dont get any mainstream attention. Some of those guys do, and a lot of that is due to the fact that they had opportunities to show off what they could do. Im mainly talking about those gigs where you can only play backbeat with the occasional fill, the music is easy and the band is named after the singer/songwriter and they get all the attention. I wouldn't take a gig like that unless it paid a lot or it was my friend's music.
@efafe4972 I went and saw Eric Clapton once with Steve Gadd on drums. He did not do a solo or play any fancy (!Steve Gadd fills) just groove and nothing else also one of my teachers at music school played on maceo Parker’s ( James Brown’s sax player ) live album “Life on planet Groove” I also saw this performed live in New York just after the live album release. Everyone in attendance including myself was blown away by the groove and feel of the drummer ( Kenwood Dennard ) truly amazing! But basically unknown outside of the drum community. In the end it’s all about supporting the band on not necessarily standing out. Support the song and musicians you will get work lots of work.
Funny thing: Drive my Car fills. One of them is bungled brilliantly. It sounds like he’s falling down stairs, but awesomely. 3:47
Yeah I love that fill it’s awesome
I'm not going to make a comment for or against Ringo but ask a question.
Why is it that since the Beatles broke up Ringo has never appeared behind a drumkit without another drummer to back him up ?
I wasn't a Beatles fan to be honest even though I was in my early teens when they appeared. I think there are many many drummers technically better than Starr but having said that he was the right fit for that band.
Because it’s hard to sing all the songs and drum at the same time! I saw Ringo’s show he’s old and he does play on some songs but Gregg plays most!
@@drumteacher43 ...
Don Henley manages it alright ...
Yes I was inspired by Ringo to play drums I share his date of birth, didn’t know that until 5 years ago! I grew up in this era in England, there were so many bands that were influenced by The Beatles it was a great time, according to Ringo’s Roadie, there were up 250 bands playing in Liverpool on a Saturday night. I still play in a cover band at 78 play around 8 Beatles songs, to listen to they sound simple but they are definitely not.
Yes so many were inspired unlike any other drummer really and that’s another thing that makes Ringo SO Great is how just watching him and listening to him made you want to get out and play yourself. This is what the Ringo bashers don’t understand he is the most influential drummer of all time!! All the greats know this. I opened up a few times for Pete best in a Beatles tribute even he said Ringo was great!
Also my granddaughter Freya was born the same day as Ringo as well so you all share it together! Awesome 😎🎂⭐️
@@drumteacher43 I also have a granddaughter who has Freya as middle name. A goddess (Freyja) from Norse Mythology, I live in Sweden now it’s spelt Freja here. I started playing drums around 1962 gave it up about 1967, something I came to regret but was able to start again around 50 years old, still going strong until I fall off my drum throne!
@davidiand7 wow small world! I live in Canada and yes you are correct about Freya. Beautiful name! I started drums in 1972 and have played since then professionally for about 35 of those years. Very busy working pro now!
@davidiand7 what do you mean “still going strong until I fell off my throne” were you injured and now can’t play?
Think his later public persona (refusing interviews/autographs - flashing peace sign instead) might contribute.
**ALSO, first respondent: "if someone comes up to me and disrespects Ringo, instead of punching them in the throat which is really what I want to do..." DISTURBING!!
Quite possibly but can you imagine living his life Brad? You are a slave to your own celebrity status! He’s the biggest star ( no pun) in the world him and Paul. Far as Todd goes he’s a great and loving guy he wouldn’t actually hit anybody, lol I was just with him a few weeks ago he has a burning passion for Ringo and the Beatles as do I. Thanks for watching love your channel man!!
Haters are jerks.
The latest misinformation going around is that Ringo once played jazz and that he'd had drum lessons before he joined The Beatles.
...and then there's Bernard Purdy's fantasy that it was him that played the drums on all the Beatles recordings.
I never heard the jazz thing but I witnessed Bernard respond to that question and his response was to just laugh it off. It was created by people to get views on TH-cam at no time did Bernard play on any Beatles tunes!
@@drumteacher43 Purdy's claim predates youtube. He's been saying it for decades.
@PhilRounds yes that’s true but the world never heard about it until somebody did a video about Purdy saying it on TH-cam
Purdy has never claimed to have played on ALL the Beatles recordings ... I think it was 22 he claimed to be on.
@ric66fb purdy didn’t play on any Beatles songs, it’s a myth. Don’t know exactly where it came from but I saw Purdy laugh it off at a drum clinic when asked about it
I have recenly been in another in another 'heated debate' ... this time regarding Ringo Starr vs Buddy Rich ... yeah I know right LMFAO !
One guy said Ringo who is left handed and plays on a right handed kit gave him the "Beauty of originality".
Nope, sorry, just wrong. Left handed drummers on right handed kits, and vice versa, is not unusual. Starting from scratch, it makes no difference. Likewise LH on RH guitar. Pianos are never left handed (apart from a couple of bizarre experimental/novelty attempts) yet some of the greatest pianists are left handed.
For many musicians, hours and hours of practice raise their weaker hand to the same level as the stronger one. As a result they are virtually ambidextrous.
Ringo Starr was and still isn't anywhere near that level, especially live. When he's live you can hear uneven quavers, poorly executed rolls, and sloppy breaks that overshoot the bar.
Rich was brilliant, and arguably the best technician ever with phenomenal speed but but he was also an obnoxiously arrogant asshole.
In my opinion (for what it's worth to the disillusional Ringo Fanatics) the best drummers (indeed musicians) of the modern era are the session players who turned BOTH of their hands to numerous different styles.... Steve Gadd, Dave Weckl, Jeff Porcaro, Simon Phillips etc.
Quite frankly they make the former Beatles drummer sound like a five year old bashing saucepans with wooden spoons.
Interesting that "Ringo Starr's all Star band" has always featured a second brilliant drummer, including the wonderful Jim Keltner to cover the more technical stuff as he just sits there playing straight 4/4. He has never appeared without a second drummer since the Beatles disbanded ... EVER, and that on it's own speaks volumes !
Ringo is at best an ordinary, barely adequate drummer, a crappy singer, and an absolute shite actor.
HE MAY WELL BE THE LUCKIEST MAN ALIVE !!!!
I totally disagree with your comment. All the guys you mentioned all idolize or idolized Ringo so your way off using those guys in your comment. You’re missing the whole point of my video!
I loved Ringo's playing on the Beatles records. His playing was great on those songs; so creative while at times being so simple (Ticket to Ride a simple pattern but so perfect, same with Come Together). Ringo shouldn't be bashed by anyone. His playing in this era was simply iconic. That being said, when I hear that he was the greatest drummer of all time, that is beyond a stretch. If he was, what did he do after The Beatles drumming wise that was so legendary? I know he had some hit records in the early '70's, but drumming wise, there was really nothing. Granted, The Beatles work was a tough act to follow, but I never hear of anyone speaking of his drumming, post The Beatles, being iconic or influencing, or really much of anything. I'm reminded of an interview with Buddy Rich asking the question, "If you were so great in one decade, why are you not in the next?". This is not in any way a knock, it's just a balance on reality. He was great with The Beatles; the songs would not have been the same without him and I dare say, there might even have been fewer hit records without him. But after The Beatles there was nothing as far as drumming that was anything special. I'm sure that I will be chastised for this post of my opinion.
Yes I agree with your comment completely!
That's assuming it was him :)
@@ric66fb I have no evidence that it wasn't. Do you? Don't mention Bernard Purdie, he's full of crap.
@dancalabrese3523 totally agree and I know as I heard him laugh off that whole I replaced Ringo on recording thing! It’s total bs!
@@dancalabrese3523 ...
Well I know for sure that Ronnie Verrell ghosted for him on more than one occasion. So who's to say how many times it happened.
Don't know how someone could hate Ringo. Thomas the Tank just isn't the same without him
lol, true
I believe that the drummer that replaced Ringo when he left for the support band the Beatles was shit hot
I don’t understand your comment???
@drumteacher43 I thought you might know of him. He came over from Liverpool to Hamburg with George, and both were underage. His first night was to play as Ringo' s replacement for Rory Strorm and his hurricanes. Band player, not soloist. Close knit group.
@powerjets3512 oh yes ok now I understand, but I’m not to familiar with his actual playing so I can’t really comment
@drumteacher43 Rose to every Cuck.Berry trap and won each contest during European tour. I think in Rolling Sone a very famous guitarist was asked who was the best drummer he played with naming him.
There are witnesses still around, but you need to get to Hamburg.
@powerjets3512 cool thanks for the info!
Ringobwas an absolute beast. Watch the early liber performances. His endurance and speed was top notch! And if that still doesn't convince you, listen to She Said She Said. Ringo is and always will be a legendary beast of a drummer 🥁❤️🥁
I agree totally!! ❤️
Ringo Starr of the Beatles? As oppossed to those other Ringo Starrs? LOL j/k. RIngo is great. Try playing the fill at the end of the bridge of "Tell Me Why."
Yes that’s the right Ringo, lol and yes I have played that filll in a Beatles tribute and I always loved playing that tune!!
@@drumteacher43 And yes, the hi hat in HELP! is that "in-between" dotted eight thing that was originally played on "Jailhouse Rock" , but Ringo plays it a LOT faster. It's a blend of stiff dotted eights or swung straight 8ths. NOT easy! And I love SOMETHING where he play no hi hat! It makes that slow tempo breathe and allows Mac busy melodic bass to come through. .Absolutely brilliant.
@NelsonMontana1234 the Ringo shuffle is a very unique and quite difficult feel to pull off!
Ringo's contributions are immense. Let's not forget the tuning that he has on his kit, and THAT is yet another reason why his drumming is so classic. He definitely is a heck of a groove drummer, and I agree that if people had tried to play his parts without any of the feel, the songs would be wrecked. I just love how he interprets the songs through the kit, and he has been very fortunate to have the band to work with during their times. No one was grooving as well as Ringo was, and to me, he will still be a great drummer. He's no Buddy Rich, for sure, but to each his own. If he had been in a jazz quartet, I am sure he would have done quite well in that area as well because he has the chops for jazz.
Yup, I agree 100% thanks for the great comment!