Masa your champion Avram is the one who has been defeated potopoto.So let me ask you.Can you give me one quotation that Avram used in his debate against the pastor and tell me why the quotation makes his argument stronger than his?You go explain tire .
Hi, my greetings to CFS families. Our dear bro. Avraham , i adore you for availing yourself for this mysteries. I trust in God almighty that, as time goes on all people will search for you and this mystry
Avraham could have used his knowledge of the bible to become a pastor but for the love of his continent and citizens he is opening our eyes. I started asking question about the bible when i realized some group of people regard Saturday as the holy day while another group regard Sunday meanwhile they are all using the same bible.
Avraham is still a pastor or a preacher whether he likes it or not He is the only true and real one because he quotes and explains the with deeper but simple understanding. If there is any spiritual understanding he has it. Allllll the other pastors are fake. When you disagree with the bible you are evil or a devil worshipper but when you agree wholeheartedly without asking questions you are the son of god and have the holy spirit. 😂😂😂😂Bunch of 🐂💩
This is where my problem is. A big problem within de Christian domain which as at now still not resolved causing a whole confusion and division among Christians.
If Avram quoted a number of texts from the Bible to make his point that there are contradictions in the Bible, and the pastor also quoted texts from the same Bible to contradict whatever Avram said, then it follows logically that the Bible is indeed full of contradictions, and that we can find the opposite of every argument by using the same book. Avram wins this debate whether the pastor agrees with him or not. If he agrees with Avram, then there is no argument that there are indeed contradictions in the Bible. And if he quotes texts to rebut Avram’s texts, then it still follows that the Bible is still full of contradictions. There is contradiction where you can support both sides of an argument using the same book.
Go and ask your champion Avram ,he rather learnt a lot fom the pastor only that he will not tell in order not to lower the confidence you've put in him.🤣🤣🤣🤣
Okatakyie you are a good host and you speak well. I have been listening to Avraham and P Black for some time now and I'm happy that they've gotten here; I wish them all the best--they are on a path filled with bumps and potholes; a tough road indeed. But s3 wo p3 bribi yie a wo br3. Avraham and P Black you have so many people like me who love you guys. Long live Avraham (Mr. Ali Ibrahim) and P. Black ❤❤❤❤🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥👍👍
This pastor is just a VIP bus preacher so guys please let's forgive him wai 😂 now he has finally come on TV since it has been his childhood dream see how Avraham has disgraced u Os) 😀😂🏃♂️
Please the Pastor is just t using Avraham's platform for evangelism. He is name calling and beating about the bush. He never answer any question of the debate.
Someone should tell the Pastor that Cornilius was an Israelite and not a Roman. He should remember that Israel were split into two. The part which did not follow God's law, were also referred to as gentiles, meanwhile, they're Israelites.
Please read your bible well. That's why you are shaky. Who told you that Paul was an Israelite? Do you understand the word gentile? Menua read your bible well ok?
Yeah true but dont blame him. This is the one that has the courage to face him. The other learned Pastors are hiding. They cant face him. Even Kennedy Agyapong they couldn't stand him, let alone Avram
Avraham is here to help us know a long waiting hidden truth about God. Sometimes I become confused when a loving God being all powerful and knowing but still set human up there in de Garden of Eden. First why was de forbidden fruit included in de garden of Eden when God knows it can do human arm than good and still let de devil get access to de garden when He(God) couldn’t contain Satan in His home heaven, how much more than human?This story is a whole disrespect to God attribute as all powerful. There is indeed God but de true him is missing in de bible.
so let me ask you a question so what about free-will?.Was man created as a robot or a living being possessing free-will?It seems you are trying to create God in the image of man when it should rather be the reverse.?Man's ways are not God's ways and your thoughts, no matter how high they are ,cannot reach God's.Avram has really deceived and brainwashed you. Isaiah 55:9 (9) For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.
TO BE FRANK THE PASTOR DIDNT TACKLE ANY OF AVRAHAM VERSES. ALL THE POINT HE MADE DOESNT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THE VERSES AVRAHAM LAYED OUT. I WAS DISAPPOINTED IN THE PASTOR PAA!! THANKS 💯
Next time the host should insist that those debating should rebuttal what the opponent says rather than quoting a different verse. That is the purpose of debating 🤔
I beg to differ a little. One could quote a different text to refute a claim. The issue becomes relevance. Does the quote relate to the claim? Does the quote throw light on the claim? Is there a correlation between the quote & the claim? If the answers to some of such/similar questions are “yes”, then it is appropriate for a rebuttal. It doesn’t always have to be the directly related.
Paul said in corinthians 12:16 “Be that as it may, I was not a burden to you; but crafty as I am, I caught you by trickery”. The trickery is also interpreted as guiled, fooled, deceived, conned. Therefore, Paul is saying he is a conman. What proof again do you need? Straight from the horse own mouth.
@@perbygowna2971 what hummm? christianity is politics and missionaries are soldiers and bible is their weapon, eyes close and let us pray all our gold, diamond, timber and oil etc, has taken away by slave masters, wise up people.
The spirit is the author of the book,do you think the reader can know the content of a book much better than the author ?You answer. 2Pet 1:20-21 (20) Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. (21) For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost. Your obedience to the gospel grants you God's spirit. Act 5:32 (32) And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him.
The pastor really demolished all the strongholds of his argument in an effortlessly manner as to present it as ridiculous and for that, I applaud him. His demeanour and composure throughout the debate reflected his in-depth knowledge of the subject matter and his readiness to tackle the issue head-on.
Isn’t this man the same person who said the twi Bible had mistranslation in it? So why was he complaining that avraham was quoting from English? Isn’t he the same person who said some words in Twi don’t have the translate them directly?
To make the Pastor’s argument firmer, Galatians 5:1-6 neither cast circumcision in a bad light nor in a good light. Circumcision is an outward sign of a Jew’s resolve to keep the Law of Moses which is incapable of justifying the adherents before God for it rather exposes their sinfulness. Due to our carnal nature, no man can ever keep the law perfectly by virtue of which it has rather become a potential killer instead of a justifier .One’s devotion to it, symbolized by his circumcision, is absolutely null and void. Faith in Christ is what justifies any man before God. Therefore, the law presents man condemned before God despite its goodness while faith in Christ presents man justified before God. Galatians 5:1-6 (1) Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage. (2) Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing. (3) For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law. (4) Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace. (5) For we through the Spirit wait for the hope of righteousness by faith. (6) For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth anything, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love. Romans 3:20 (20) Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin. Rom 7:7-14 (7) What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet. (8) But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead. (9) For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died. (10) And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death. (11) For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me. (12) Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good. (13) Was then that which is good made death unto me? God forbid. But sin, that it might appear sin, working death in me by that which is good; that sin by the commandment might become exceeding sinful. (14) For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin. Galatians 2:21 (21) I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.
The pastor didn't answer any of the claims Avram said, and also said if you do good things and doesn't have faith in Jesus you will go to hell is very funny 🤣 for his information is your good work that will send you to heaven not faith, if you have faith and you do bad things you will go to hell only if hell exist that's karma you reap what you sow pastor
Its funny becos even churchs condemn them self that this church isnt from God , the same book but different way of the pastors interpretating it , church of christ will tell you if you dont come to church of christ you wont go to heaven but they use the same bible
CFS is pointing out that if the bible is written under divine inspiration, how come the contradictions, etc Christians are given human characteristics to a divine all know Being. The god referred to in the bible is not the divine being but human hence the contraductions. The pastor is light wright to Avram.
This gospel of spiritual circumcision is what the Galatian Christians obeyed and were, at the time Paul wrote the letter, turning away from to another gospel that compels them to be physically circumcised in order to keep Moses’s law. Galatians 1:6-8 (6) I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: (7) Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. (8) But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
Luke 13:27 (YLT) and he shall say, I say to you, I have not known you whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of the unrighteousness. So Moshe quoted this ... and it answers the circumcision and uncircumcised... Jesus didn’t say go away you uncircumcised or circumcised but rather unrighteousness!
Where is it written that the bible is coded?? And why would the creator give us a book that is coded and should be read with "a spirited mind" by which it is open to many interpretations??
I think the pastor did better today than the first day. Because Christianity is based on faith, it's so hard to debate physically though I agree with a lot of things CSF argues.
If Avram had considered the above context he would have appreciated Paul’s outright dismissal of the practice of circumcision as unprofitable in the sense that it has no bearing on salvation. In fact, whether or not one is circumcised has absolutely nothing to do with his salvation.Avram creates the impression based on this issue (Galatians 5:2) that merely allowing yourself to be circumcised is an indication of your acceptance to keep the law and to be brought into the bondage of sin for failing to keep it perfectly and therefore Christ will be of no profit to you (John 8:32-36). Circumcision is not the issue here but the intent behind the practice is the issue of Paul’s focus. Many of us were circumcised at an early time in our lives when we were still babies and a little conscious. You would agree with me that none of us was circumcised for the purpose of keeping the Law of Moses, which is laughable.Infact, at that tender age, one is incapable of taking decisions and even the permission to have it done was not sought from us for, obviously, we were not able to grant it anyway. Moreover, what was done to us was done sorely on medical and not religious grounds. The background to the book of Galatians reveals that some Jewish Christians who still remain attached to Judaism harassed gentile Christians to accept a perverted gospel they had never known which demanded their circumcision else they would not obtain salvation. The genesis of this harassment is found here: Acts 15:1 (1) And certain men which came down from Judaea taught the brethren, and said, Except ye be circumcised after the manner of Moses, ye cannot be saved. Peter commented on the matter at the Jerusalem council meeting in Paul’s presence and concluded on it stating it this way: Act 15:10-11 (10) So why do you test God by putting on the disciples' neck a yoke that neither our ancestors nor we could carry? (11) We certainly believe that it is through the grace of the Lord Jesus, the Messiah, that we are saved, just as they are." This goes to support what Paul said in Galatians 5:1. Galatians 5:1 (1) Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.
We Christians are angry with Kindom tv. Why bring this Kumasi villager to find and disgrace our religion like that. The guy is a junk. Just throw him away
There the typical Christian goes. Anyone with a different concept other than theirs is human. " kumasi villager" indeed. What are you? A lost city man?
The Jews themselves know how burdensome the consequence is if you agree to keep the law by being circumcised and that you are being brought under bondage if you agree to submit to it. Who is Avram to doubt this view of the Jews about circumcision in connection with the law? Does he know better than the Jews who are the true owners of Judaism? False teachers had crept into the churches in Galatia and were turning the gentile Christians away from the true gospel of Christ. Paul who planted these churches had to address a letter to them in his bid to avert the situation, calling for resistance against this false gospel. Since the gentiles prior to their salvation were never taught by Paul to be circumcised in order to be saved, it was pointless after all to submit to that practice having behind it that religious intent. It is within this context that he states point blank saying:”…….. if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing”.
Saying someone is anti-christ does mean the person is evil or is from the devil . It simply means the person isn't Christian or doesn't believe in Christ . So I don't understand how that is relevant.
No one should ever entertain the notion that Paul spoke these things by his own authority or volition. Even where he speaks as though it were out of his own volition he was still being directed by the Spirit of God(1 Cor 7:1-40). Let’s consider this statement issued by Paul which seems to suggest that he spoke by his own authority: 1Cor 7:12 (12) But to the rest speak I, not the Lord: If any brother hath a wife that believeth not, and she be pleased to dwell with him, let him not put her away. Here, Paul touched on an aspect of marital issue that Christ himself did not address .Don’t forget Christ said this: John 16:12-15 (12) I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. (13) Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. (14) He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you. (15) All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you. 1Cor 7:10-11 (10) And unto the married I command, yet not I, but the Lord, Let not the wife depart from her husband: (11) But and if she depart, let her remain unmarried, or be reconciled to her husband: and let not the husband put away his wife. Considering the above text, we see Paul here stating an issue that the Lord Himself had already addressed when He was here on earth fulfilling His ministry. This we will find here: Matt 19:1-9 (1) And it came to pass, that when Jesus had finished these sayings, he departed from Galilee, and came into the coasts of Judaea beyond Jordan; (2) And great multitudes followed him; and he healed them there. (3) The Pharisees also came unto him, tempting him, and saying unto him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for every cause? (4) And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, (5) And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? (6) Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder. (7) They say unto him, Why did Moses then command to give a writing of divorcement, and to put her away? (8) He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so. (9) And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery. As for Paul, we should be very careful in studying his writings. Just as the Pastor said, basing his view on 2 Peter 3:15-16, someone who is not well grounded in scriptural knowledge can easily distort the meanings of Paul’s writings and bring damnation upon himself as a result.If Paul spoke by his own volition let Avram and his cohorts examine these scriptures: Galatians 1:11-12 (11) But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man. (12) For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ. 2 Timothy 3:16-17 (16) All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: (17) That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works. 1 Cor 14:37 (37) If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord. CSF should wise up and seek true knowledge in their hope to find eternal peace and rest.
I agree and therefore will not discount the assertion made by Avram and his cohorts that our engagement with scriptures must involve the usage of the mind, but the involvement of the Spirit in enlightening our understanding of scriptures is one fact that cannot be discounted either. There is an occurrence of an indirect illumination by God through the Spirit which enables the believer’s acquisition of a deeper knowledge of God’s word and Paul states it plainly here: Eph 1:15-18 (15) Wherefore I also, after I heard of your faith in the Lord Jesus, and love unto all the saints, (16) Cease not to give thanks for you, making mention of you in my prayers; (17) That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him: (18) The eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that ye may know what is the hope of his calling, and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints. God Himself understands how equally essential it is to engage him on an intellectual basis in His quest to have us submit to Him. The mind is the seat of reasoning and it will interest CSF to know that application of logical reasoning in ascertaining truth has never been frowned upon by the Scriptures. The following scriptures lend support to it: Mark 12:30 (30) And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment. Isaiah 1:18 (18) Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool. Act 17:2-3 (2) And Paul, as his manner was, went in unto them, and three Sabbath days reasoned with them out of the scriptures, (3) Opening and alleging, that Christ must needs have suffered, and risen again from the dead; and that this Jesus, whom I preach unto you, is Christ. Act 18:4 (4) And he reasoned in the synagogue every Sabbath, and persuaded the Jews and the Greeks.
Who has noticed this, P black starts reading before opening the page..
He's smart,samtymz he says ")si" meanin de chapter/verse says b4 wen he doesn't even wats der. I lyk his smartness....P-Black! ✌✌✌✌
Because He knows the Bible word by word
P black be dope💯
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Massive,you're very smart
This pastor has not even disprove Avraham’s quotations just beating around the bush 😂😂😂😂😂
Masa your champion Avram is the one who has been defeated potopoto.So let me ask you.Can you give me one quotation that Avram used in his debate against the pastor and tell me why the quotation makes his argument stronger than his?You go explain tire .
Hi, my greetings to CFS families. Our dear bro. Avraham , i adore you for availing yourself for this mysteries. I trust in God almighty that, as time goes on all people will search for you and this mystry
Avraham could have used his knowledge of the bible to become a pastor but for the love of his continent and citizens he is opening our eyes. I started asking question about the bible when i realized some group of people regard Saturday as the holy day while another group regard Sunday meanwhile they are all using the same bible.
Facts
Good bro, so the same holy spirit is the one causing all these different interpretation among the churches?
Avraham is still a pastor or a preacher whether he likes it or not
He is the only true and real one because he quotes and explains the with deeper but simple understanding. If there is any spiritual understanding he has it. Allllll the other pastors are fake. When you disagree with the bible you are evil or a devil worshipper but when you agree wholeheartedly without asking questions you are the son of god and have the holy spirit. 😂😂😂😂Bunch of 🐂💩
This is where my problem is. A big problem within de Christian domain which as at now still not resolved causing a whole confusion and division among Christians.
seek answers my friend and you will realize the truth.Read my comments and free yourself from the fallacy of Avram's argument
When it comes to debate P Black ried bible like Messi plays champions league finals.
He started reading b4 even opening
So
@@gabrielagyapong1390 he is Bible naymer
If Avram quoted a number of texts from the Bible to make his point that there are contradictions in the Bible, and the pastor also quoted texts from the same Bible to contradict whatever Avram said, then it follows logically that the Bible is indeed full of contradictions, and that we can find the opposite of every argument by using the same book.
Avram wins this debate whether the pastor agrees with him or not. If he agrees with Avram, then there is no argument that there are indeed contradictions in the Bible. And if he quotes texts to rebut Avram’s texts, then it still follows that the Bible is still full of contradictions.
There is contradiction where you can support both sides of an argument using the same book.
Good & credible analogy. Thanks bro
In fact it seems like you are in my mind, you have just snatch thought, Bible is full of contradition
Wwll spoken!!! You've said it all 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
When I saw your comment and saw your profile I didn’t doubt it🙌🏽 well said!
This is logical reasoning. U said it all... U see the tin?
Heeerr P Black is too much 😂♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️
This pastor came to learn from Avraham(CSF) again.Good Choice Pastor👊🏿
Go and ask your champion Avram ,he rather learnt a lot fom the pastor only that he will not tell in order not to lower the confidence you've put in him.🤣🤣🤣🤣
I think Jesus himself need to come and debate Avraham ooo because all this pastors are below his standard
It is true Avraham is too much
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@@tonyjohansen9619 for real
Are you normal?
@@steve3288 are u alryt?
P black making it more fun.. always reads before open the verse 😀.. he is good with the book 👉🏼🐢
Okatakyie you are a good host and you speak well. I have been listening to Avraham and P Black for some time now and I'm happy that they've gotten here; I wish them all the best--they are on a path filled with bumps and potholes; a tough road indeed. But s3 wo p3 bribi yie a wo br3. Avraham and P Black you have so many people like me who love you guys. Long live Avraham (Mr. Ali Ibrahim) and P. Black ❤❤❤❤🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥👍👍
Avraham, u r the true definition of confidence and intelligent 🧠
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Thanks Bro Ben Moshe Respect
This pastor again??
Let's all the freedom fighters gather here🤝
I know right😂😂😂he just want people to know him and He's using Abvaham to gain fans
Lol 😂 this one weak me 😂😂😂😭
This pastor is just a VIP bus preacher so guys please let's forgive him wai 😂 now he has finally come on TV since it has been his childhood dream see how Avraham has disgraced u Os) 😀😂🏃♂️
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🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣Oh my gosh, u blast oo bro
P Black scatters the Bible😅😅 And I love his intelligence.
WE START FROM THE BOTTOM NOW WE ARE HERE #IFYOUNOYOUNO
Please the Pastor is just t using Avraham's platform for evangelism. He is name calling and beating about the bush. He never answer any question of the debate.
he can’t answer!!!
Someone should tell the Pastor that Cornilius was an Israelite and not a Roman.
He should remember that Israel were split into two. The part which did not follow God's law, were also referred to as gentiles, meanwhile, they're Israelites.
Please read your bible well. That's why you are shaky. Who told you that Paul was an Israelite? Do you understand the word gentile? Menua read your bible well ok?
It doesn't make sense for Avram to debate this k.g one pastor.
Man you funny haha
Yeah true but dont blame him. This is the one that has the courage to face him. The other learned Pastors are hiding. They cant face him. Even Kennedy Agyapong they couldn't stand him, let alone Avram
Lionel Agyeman yeah true !
Still CSF we are in the comfortable lead, no challenger! 💪🔥🌍🤩🤩🤩
please tell the pastor to read from Acts 16: 25 to 37...he is lieing papa!!!!! CSF TO THE WORLD!!!!!
And what do you find there that makes you think the OSOR is lying?🤔😂
The argument is Paul is against gods law. Explain.
Simple
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U lack understanding no wonder becos u use common sense
@@gabrielagyapong1390 u too u hv low understanding
CSF no size thank you Avram the your good work 🇦🇪🇬🇭
If this knowledge that people have in the Bible would have been knowledge in technology, how would our country would have been ???
This debate their, real Madrid vrs kingfaisel.
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All the last cortations the pastor coated were the Bible verses that came to destroyed and condemned our culture and traditions.
Avraham keep it up
If you are a pastor and you come to face Avraham on the ticket of your church then prepare very well else your church might collapse
Avraham has so much energy🔥
More Fire Bro Ben Moshe I Salute you
There noorrrrr, Osofo use 10 minutes to greet people. After that Osofo use the rest of the time to give nkoranhye 😃😃😃😃. Avraham no get size ampa
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Avraham is here to help us know a long waiting hidden truth about God. Sometimes I become confused when a loving God being all powerful and knowing but still set human up there in de Garden of Eden. First why was de forbidden fruit included in de garden of Eden when God knows it can do human arm than good and still let de devil get access to de garden when He(God) couldn’t contain Satan in His home heaven, how much more than human?This story is a whole disrespect to God attribute as all powerful. There is indeed God but de true him is missing in de bible.
so let me ask you a question so what about free-will?.Was man created as a robot or a living being possessing free-will?It seems you are trying to create God in the image of man when it should rather be the reverse.?Man's ways are not God's ways and your thoughts, no matter how high they are ,cannot reach God's.Avram has really deceived and brainwashed you.
Isaiah 55:9
(9) For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.
Ehi!! "The bible has self-cleaning properties " ..these kumasi boys think we are babies..😃😃
Meaning the bible has dirt in it😂
Hahaha 😂😂😅
😃 😃 😃 😃 He thinks it is like vigina which is slf cleaning
This one ☝️ weak me
My brother, what does Kumasi has to do with this? You are on CSF platform so you know what you need to do.......
Wow this is scary the contradiction are too much
Too much
they are alleged contradictions and not genuine ones
TO BE FRANK THE PASTOR DIDNT TACKLE ANY OF AVRAHAM VERSES. ALL THE POINT HE MADE DOESNT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THE VERSES AVRAHAM LAYED OUT. I WAS DISAPPOINTED IN THE PASTOR PAA!! THANKS 💯
I have tackled them so do read my comments on the matter.
Jesus of Lubeck, the ship that brought bible to Gold Coast.
Humour working
Keep the fire burning Avraham Adjei Enoch Dormaa-Ahenkro
Seriously, Avram must be appointed in to government. He's what the youth needs.
Sure🤗🤗
I agree to that,; is a yes for me
Wow l like your suggestion .
The pastor even admit the foundation of Christianity is from Paul. 🤦🏽♂️🤣
Next time the host should insist that those debating should rebuttal what the opponent says rather than quoting a different verse. That is the purpose of debating 🤔
Exactly!
Thank you
The pastor is just beating about the bush... Look at all these
I beg to differ a little. One could quote a different text to refute a claim. The issue becomes relevance. Does the quote relate to the claim? Does the quote throw light on the claim? Is there a correlation between the quote & the claim? If the answers to some of such/similar questions are “yes”, then it is appropriate for a rebuttal. It doesn’t always have to be the directly related.
Check 24:30! P Black started reading before getting to the book Matt. 5:17 - He knew the passage started with M'a mo nsusus3. Brilliant!
Pastor Sarkodie... i salute you. you have relief me from the spirit of Avraham
Csf for life,Nana Don from Nkz BA .
Bro I also rep Nkz oooooo
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CSF all the way 🙏🙏 EXHIBIT JNR DUBAI
Paul said in corinthians 12:16 “Be that as it may, I was not a burden to you; but crafty as I am, I caught you by trickery”. The trickery is also interpreted as guiled, fooled, deceived, conned. Therefore, Paul is saying he is a conman. What proof again do you need? Straight from the horse own mouth.
Paul is like a politician. Can’t trust him
Dr Kenny Hahaha. Exactly
This matter hummm
@@perbygowna2971 what hummm? christianity is politics and missionaries are soldiers and bible is their weapon, eyes close and let us pray all our gold, diamond, timber and oil etc, has taken away by slave masters, wise up people.
He was resounding the false allegation the false teachers raised against him.Don't try to ignore the context in which he made that statement.
This Osofo was to answer the contradictions in Paul, but he continues to preach as he does in his Church. Too bad!
I’m trying to understand this so called pastor but I’m losing brain cells
Lol
Those who say you need the spirit to understand. How do you acquire that spirit they’re talking about?
The spirit is the author of the book,do you think the reader can know the content of a book much better than the author ?You answer.
2Pet 1:20-21
(20) Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
(21) For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.
Your obedience to the gospel grants you God's spirit.
Act 5:32
(32) And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him.
We love from italy my boss
LET US FOLLOW AVRAHAM SO THAT WE CAN CHANGE THE WORLD. And make it a better place. But not to follow the church pastor. Because this will not help us.
The pastor is making no sense because he has proven that the God of yesterday is not the God of today which wrong because God never changes.
He's never made any valid points before apart from being showing how kantata concert party he is
so this guy managed to swerve all the contradictions Avraham highlighted (about 4-5 of them) and managed to turn his response into a fine sermon
yes, because you think they are genuine contradictions.This contradictions are mere allegations-alleged contradictions.
Avraham is without understanding yet he's stuck in his arrogance. Such a fool; smh
If u're like him like u will thank ur Jesus.. Smh!..
Why the pastor dont want to answer the questions? He's just reading Bible verses
THIS PASTOR REALLY BROKE MY HEART HE DID NOTHING BUT PREACHING
Very sure
Do you know there is an element of teaching even in preaching?or you don't know?
We thank God for Avraham, God bless you Mr. Avraham
Avraham, I love you so much.
P black you are a hero of Bible, you start reading before opened. Bravo💪💪💪🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Pastor did very well today . He spoke some wisdom today.
The pastor really demolished all the strongholds of his argument in an effortlessly manner as to present it as ridiculous and for that, I applaud him. His demeanour and composure throughout the debate reflected his in-depth knowledge of the subject matter and his readiness to tackle the issue head-on.
Is P-Black the machine of the Bible?...........He is too good👍
Isn’t this man the same person who said the twi Bible had mistranslation in it? So why was he complaining that avraham was quoting from English? Isn’t he the same person who said some words in Twi don’t have the translate them directly?
We need to review the Bible
CSF and Freemind Family are here to stay
P-black is 9 and half out of 10 in bible reading..this other guy is almost 6🙂🙂😊 big ups tho!!
I always get confuse when I listen to Avram moshe debate
Do you get confused as a believer or a free thinker?
I don't think anybody in this world can debate Avraham
Obadiah Amankwah finished Avram.
Avram no nothing
I have watched several debate but pastor Sarkodie is the best so far 👌
Zion Roots allow him wai😉😂
Please I want to knw if Jesus is God? If u can debate on dat too. Thankx
To make the Pastor’s argument firmer, Galatians 5:1-6 neither cast circumcision in a bad light nor in a good light. Circumcision is an outward sign of a Jew’s resolve to keep the Law of Moses which is incapable of justifying the adherents before God for it rather exposes their sinfulness. Due to our carnal nature, no man can ever keep the law perfectly by virtue of which it has rather become a potential killer instead of a justifier .One’s devotion to it, symbolized by his circumcision, is absolutely null and void. Faith in Christ is what justifies any man before God. Therefore, the law presents man condemned before God despite its goodness while faith in Christ presents man justified before God.
Galatians 5:1-6
(1) Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.
(2) Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing.
(3) For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law.
(4) Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.
(5) For we through the Spirit wait for the hope of righteousness by faith.
(6) For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth anything, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love.
Romans 3:20
(20) Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
Rom 7:7-14
(7) What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
(8) But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
(9) For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
(10) And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.
(11) For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me.
(12) Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.
(13) Was then that which is good made death unto me? God forbid. But sin, that it might appear sin, working death in me by that which is good; that sin by the commandment might become exceeding sinful.
(14) For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.
Galatians 2:21
(21) I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.
The pastor didn't answer any of the claims Avram said, and also said if you do good things and doesn't have faith in Jesus you will go to hell is very funny 🤣 for his information is your good work that will send you to heaven not faith, if you have faith and you do bad things you will go to hell only if hell exist that's karma you reap what you sow pastor
Its funny becos even churchs condemn them self that this church isnt from God , the same book but different way of the pastors interpretating it , church of christ will tell you if you dont come to church of christ you wont go to heaven but they use the same bible
CFS is pointing out that if the bible is written under divine inspiration, how come the contradictions, etc
Christians are given human characteristics to a divine all know Being.
The god referred to in the bible is not the divine being but human hence the contraductions.
The pastor is light wright to Avram.
This gospel of spiritual circumcision is what the Galatian Christians obeyed and were, at the time Paul wrote the letter, turning away from to another gospel that compels them to be physically circumcised in order to keep Moses’s law.
Galatians 1:6-8
(6) I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
(7) Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
(8) But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
They are all making sense, asem oooo
Herr P black is super dope👌👌😀😀💙💙 CSF till casket 💪🏻💪🏻✌✌👍👍🔥🔥🔥
D black not P
Luke 13:27 (YLT) and he shall say, I say to you, I have not known you whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of the unrighteousness. So Moshe quoted this ... and it answers the circumcision and uncircumcised... Jesus didn’t say go away you uncircumcised or circumcised but rather unrighteousness!
Where is it written that the bible is coded?? And why would the creator give us a book that is coded and should be read with "a spirited mind" by which it is open to many interpretations??
Pastor SARK came to tell same old stories without debating the the topic at hand .
No pastor I repeat no pastor understands the Bible than Avraham
Bam!
CSF all the way
I think the pastor did better today than the first day. Because Christianity is based on faith, it's so hard to debate physically though I agree with a lot of things CSF argues.
Fire oo fire CSF Europe pounch line 💪💪💪😲😲😲😲. pastor is speachles and leeeem.Jesus is dead since centuries with yesterday bible story.
If Avram had considered the above context he would have appreciated Paul’s outright dismissal of the practice of circumcision as unprofitable in the sense that it has no bearing on salvation. In fact, whether or not one is circumcised has absolutely nothing to do with his salvation.Avram creates the impression based on this issue (Galatians 5:2) that merely allowing yourself to be circumcised is an indication of your acceptance to keep the law and to be brought into the bondage of sin for failing to keep it perfectly and therefore Christ will be of no profit to you (John 8:32-36). Circumcision is not the issue here but the intent behind the practice is the issue of Paul’s focus.
Many of us were circumcised at an early time in our lives when we were still babies and a little conscious. You would agree with me that none of us was circumcised for the purpose of keeping the Law of Moses, which is laughable.Infact, at that tender age, one is incapable of taking decisions and even the permission to have it done was not sought from us for, obviously, we were not able to grant it anyway. Moreover, what was done to us was done sorely on medical and not religious grounds.
The background to the book of Galatians reveals that some Jewish Christians who still remain attached to Judaism harassed gentile Christians to accept a perverted gospel they had never known which demanded their circumcision else they would not obtain salvation. The genesis of this harassment is found here:
Acts 15:1
(1) And certain men which came down from Judaea taught the brethren, and said, Except ye be circumcised after the manner of Moses, ye cannot be saved.
Peter commented on the matter at the Jerusalem council meeting in Paul’s presence and concluded on it stating it this way:
Act 15:10-11
(10) So why do you test God by putting on the disciples' neck a yoke that neither our ancestors nor we could carry?
(11) We certainly believe that it is through the grace of the Lord Jesus, the Messiah, that we are saved, just as they are."
This goes to support what Paul said in Galatians 5:1.
Galatians 5:1
(1) Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.
This pastor is not making any sense, he’s just making a lot of noise
Thats the common sense affect. He was looking for tv time not knowing he was in for a disgrace
I think the pastor really did well.... congrats...
We Christians are angry with Kindom tv. Why bring this Kumasi villager to find and disgrace our religion like that. The guy is a junk. Just throw him away
Junk indeed. We are not puppets, we are thinkers, let the pastors prove him wrong.
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There the typical Christian goes. Anyone with a different concept other than theirs is human. " kumasi villager" indeed. What are you? A lost city man?
"NOT HUMAN"
Lol this comment made me lmao🤣🤣
Please tell pastor Sarkodie to stop trying to fool us. Because we have already seen the truth.
AVRAHAM IS TELLING THE TRUTH
I think they have stopped showing this on kingdom TV? Or?
Avram Pieces the book. Help Africa grow again. Help black people to think.
P black is the best bible reader ever
The Jews themselves know how burdensome the consequence is if you agree to keep the law by being circumcised and that you are being brought under bondage if you agree to submit to it. Who is Avram to doubt this view of the Jews about circumcision in connection with the law? Does he know better than the Jews who are the true owners of Judaism?
False teachers had crept into the churches in Galatia and were turning the gentile Christians away from the true gospel of Christ. Paul who planted these churches had to address a letter to them in his bid to avert the situation, calling for resistance against this false gospel. Since the gentiles prior to their salvation were never taught by Paul to be circumcised in order to be saved, it was pointless after all to submit to that practice having behind it that religious intent. It is within this context that he states point blank saying:”…….. if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing”.
Saying someone is anti-christ does mean the person is evil or is from the devil . It simply means the person isn't Christian or doesn't believe in Christ . So I don't understand how that is relevant.
Wisdom.... Avraham
No one should ever entertain the notion that Paul spoke these things by his own authority or volition. Even where he speaks as though it were out of his own volition he was still being directed by the Spirit of God(1 Cor 7:1-40).
Let’s consider this statement issued by Paul which seems to suggest that he spoke by his own authority:
1Cor 7:12
(12) But to the rest speak I, not the Lord: If any brother hath a wife that believeth not, and she be pleased to dwell with him, let him not put her away.
Here, Paul touched on an aspect of marital issue that Christ himself did not address .Don’t forget Christ said this:
John 16:12-15
(12) I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.
(13) Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
(14) He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.
(15) All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you.
1Cor 7:10-11
(10) And unto the married I command, yet not I, but the Lord, Let not the wife depart from her husband:
(11) But and if she depart, let her remain unmarried, or be reconciled to her husband: and let not the husband put away his wife.
Considering the above text, we see Paul here stating an issue that the Lord Himself had already addressed when He was here on earth fulfilling His ministry. This we will find here:
Matt 19:1-9
(1) And it came to pass, that when Jesus had finished these sayings, he departed from Galilee, and came into the coasts of Judaea beyond Jordan;
(2) And great multitudes followed him; and he healed them there.
(3) The Pharisees also came unto him, tempting him, and saying unto him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for every cause?
(4) And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,
(5) And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?
(6) Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.
(7) They say unto him, Why did Moses then command to give a writing of divorcement, and to put her away?
(8) He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so.
(9) And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.
As for Paul, we should be very careful in studying his writings. Just as the Pastor said, basing his view on 2 Peter 3:15-16, someone who is not well grounded in scriptural knowledge can easily distort the meanings of Paul’s writings and bring damnation upon himself as a result.If Paul spoke by his own volition let Avram and his cohorts examine these scriptures:
Galatians 1:11-12
(11) But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
(12) For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.
2 Timothy 3:16-17
(16) All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
(17) That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.
1 Cor 14:37
(37) If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.
CSF should wise up and seek true knowledge in their hope to find eternal peace and rest.
I agree and therefore will not discount the assertion made by Avram and his cohorts that our engagement with scriptures must involve the usage of the mind, but the involvement of the Spirit in enlightening our understanding of scriptures is one fact that cannot be discounted either. There is an occurrence of an indirect illumination by God through the Spirit which enables the believer’s acquisition of a deeper knowledge of God’s word and Paul states it plainly here:
Eph 1:15-18
(15) Wherefore I also, after I heard of your faith in the Lord Jesus, and love unto all the saints,
(16) Cease not to give thanks for you, making mention of you in my prayers;
(17) That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him:
(18) The eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that ye may know what is the hope of his calling, and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints.
God Himself understands how equally essential it is to engage him on an intellectual basis in His quest to have us submit to Him. The mind is the seat of reasoning and it will interest CSF to know that application of logical reasoning in ascertaining truth has never been frowned upon by the Scriptures. The following scriptures lend support to it:
Mark 12:30
(30) And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.
Isaiah 1:18
(18) Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.
Act 17:2-3
(2) And Paul, as his manner was, went in unto them, and three Sabbath days reasoned with them out of the scriptures,
(3) Opening and alleging, that Christ must needs have suffered, and risen again from the dead; and that this Jesus, whom I preach unto you, is Christ.
Act 18:4
(4) And he reasoned in the synagogue every Sabbath, and persuaded the Jews and the Greeks.
if we need spirit to understand the book then throw the book away and let us use spirit
The pastor couldnt convince me koraa.....he couldnt speak to the issues raised by Avram
Avraham all the way!!!! Sizeless
Classic teachings......🤩🤩
This is the brain factory, CSF😃😍😋