Oris Big Crown Pointer Date & Divers Sixty Five - Full Review
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We take a deep dive into the world of Oris in this show. 2 giant icons in the Oris range! How do they stack up to the MWC test!? All will be revealed!
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Awesome show MWC 👏👏👏👏
I’m a big fan of Oris and bought a Big Crown ProPilot from the fine folks at Francis & Gaye a few months ago. Would totally recommend them and mentioning the MWC sent you!
Definitely disappointing that the bezel on every Diver 65 you’ve tried has been consistently so rubbish. One slipping by you can sort of understand but if all them are wobbly then that’s really disappointing. Ironically it’s probably quite close to the feel of an actual Oris diver from 1965 but that’s probably taking the whole reissue thing a bit too far 🤣 Such a shame as it’s a great looking watch 💔
Love the Pointer Date though 👍
If they tighten up the bezel I could definitely see either of these in my collection (although I’d probably go blue dial with the Pointer Date and black with the Diver 65 because I’m boring 🤣).
Awesome work as always MWC 🙌
Thanks as always Gareth! There isn’t an Oris that completely has won me over yet!
The Pointer Date is stunning, particularly the dial colour. It's such a deep red ... it just draws you in. Plus I adore the cathedral hands, the coin-edge bezel, the date pointer and the railroad minute track. Superb!
Love it Frank! Just like the old military watches for the MOD! The handset is awesome to!
“...I said ish!” Brilliant 😂
I’ve got the bronze pointer date with the green dial. Got it from Ryan too. I’m a big fan. WR doesn’t bother me as it’s not the kind of watch that you’re going to be getting wet.
I do like the 65 but my favourite is the now discontinued model with the Arabic’s at the quarters. My hope is that they’ll re-release it with the new movement, and improve the lume and bezel like you mentioned!
Bronze with the green dial is magnificent my friend!
Best part of your videos is "What the Wife thinks". I think it does not get enough love. Makes me laugh and it always sounds like my wife. Woman who are not "watch people" have the best opinions. Keep up the good work Mrs. Mad Watch Collector.
Hahaha thanks Justin! She thinks so to;)
Russell as always LOVE your reviews. I turned 60 this past May and my wife got me an Oris Big Crown Pointer Date and I couldn't be happier. GREAT watch. Keeps great time and I've worn it every day since she gave it to me. I know in an earlier video you said to never wear two watches, but I have to admit I do. What's funny is how very few people ever notice and ask me about it, anyways I digress..... I have the black dial on my Oris and for me that would really be my only point of contention. The dial is a more subdued black. If it "popped" a little more I think the watch would be perfect for me. I personally love the bracelet but then again I love dress watches. It is so comfortable to wear. I also love the way it is integrated into the watch itself. Thank you again my friend for the review. I appreciate ALL you do for the watch community. I have also been listening to Martha's Man and I have to say I have really been enjoying your music. I was in a band WAY back when (early 80s). We ended up making five records and it was fun being on the road for the four years I was with the band (of course as you know being on the road is more fun when you're single and have practically no real life obligations). I've played guitar since I was eight years old and still play (and sing) almost every day for my wife. Thank you again Russell. Keep up the FANTASTIC work my friend!
Great stuff here Jeff!! Yes for those who are dressier inclined I can 100% see the appeal ! The design of the dial is so special!!
Well when we were getting bigger I already had a mortgage :/ would’ve loved to have done the band thing in the late teens!!!!
All the best Jeff!
Awesome!! I am lucky enough to own both models🙏🙏 I have the red big crown and the dark green dial 65. Both are just solid great. I do wish the pointer date was 41 or 42mm. I think the pointer date is a classic and should be owned by all!!
Congrats my friend! Oris FANBOY!!!! That PD is very striking !
I’m in love with the pointer date, to me it is an aspirational piece but my favorite is the navy dial gold hands and bronze bezel!!! She will be mine!!!!
Oh yes that’s a nice one! For me bronze all over with the green dial;)
If I had to choose one, I'd go with the Big Crown Pointer! So unique and very cool along with a serious vintage vibe. Thanks MWC!
Good choice either way! Just a couple of boggles stopping me from buying that Diver!
Great to see Cedric and the wife's first impressions !
The coffee machine photo reminds me when Sir Roger Moore in Live & Let Die film at the beginning when he’s in the kitchen with M. Wearing the Pulsar.
Yes!!!!! Great spot my friend! Thanks for watching !
I've looked at the 65 in the past but when compared with bb58 there's no comparison. The 58 worth the extra in my opinion. The pointer date on leather is a cracker 👌.
Brilliant,love watches and I like a giggle so I've come to the right place lol
Thanks Darren! Fan of Oris?
Fantastic video.....got the CW C65 Trident instead of the Diver 65 ... build quality of the CW is superb, lower cost and 150m of WR !!!
Perks of not being able to sleep and being up at 3am.😂 New MWC video!!🔥
Hahaha thanks for watching Tristan !
F&G sell Ball too, perhaps their Fireman range offer better spec/finish for the money - am sure Ryan will pop one in a jiffy bag for ya!
Can make it happen 😂
A couple of Balls are definitely due!
I love that intro music. So many memories. I’m still waiting for the third movie to be continued. I still have the vhs that has that ending before they edited it out
Awesome Mario! It is so good!!!!
Great mad review, thumbs up for the 'No Date Window' shout. Oris are doing some great stuff lately, the 65 is a real looker. Greetings from sunny France.
Thanks for watching Steve! Glad I could add these to the channel!
Mr Pagani custom made coffin 😁
Definitely the pointer for me💪
Can’t see that catching on Maro!! :)
I'm happy to trade off an additional 200m WR for a 2mm thinner case. I wish more manufacturers gave us slimmer 100m watches, as no one dives with them anyway.
I hear you Craig however my Christopher Ward I had on in this show is just as thin, 150 WR and doesn’t have a screw down crown??
Another brilliant video!!
Love these watches specially the Diver 65, just wish it had a better bezel and it were 200m as well.
Its such a perfect everyday watch! Love the dial too! Got such character
Thank you my friend! Beautiful looking watches !!!!
Superb review as ever Russ...agree with your comments completely, I think we are very similar tastes diver wise, got to be a vintage inspired reissue. Oh and I think its Citizen with the undercrackers at 12 not Seiko that's more renowned. Go check a NY0040 for example
i fully brushed my bracelet on my big crown pointer. looks much better.
Great video. I owned that exact Oris pointer date on leather and really loved the watch. I think I may get another but in blue or green dial.
Thanks for watching my friend! The design of the PD is so beautifully done!
Great reviews of both watches. Thanks so much for the insights and entertainment.
Thanks Wade! Appreciate that!!
Have a vintage Wittnauer with pointer date. Cool to see a modern take. Mmmmm that Red. Wonder how she would look with some other straps?
Great Friday combo of MWC and a lovely pair of Oris Beauties and Nooooot a date window in sight
Thanks for watching my friend! Do love a nodate!;)
Brilliant again Russ! I like how you do the show’s!!! You could do 2 boring videos and you sacrifice and make just one really good one!!! Bravo 👏
Appreciate that my friend thank you!
I bought my pointer date in the mid noughties. No screw down crown, same water resistance. Came on a leather strap which rotted first hot summer. Changed to bracelet and never looked back. Ironically my wife hated it on the strap but loves it on the bracelet! Oris were bought by the swatch group in the 80s but had a management buy back in the 90s. I have 4 oris's, one that was my grandfather's, 2 that were my father's, and mine. Great watches for the price.
This is fantastic my friend! You have a great connection with the brand! I actually go through the history of the ownership with Oris in the Aquis show!;)
Great review! It always is but I’m very disappointed by the 65! Lume and bezel particularly! The pilot watch looks great but I’d have it on leather!
This is the one watch I wanted to live! I tried , lord knows I tried!
Another cracking show! I really look forward to these, thank you!
Cheers Sam! Appreciate that a lot!
Great show as always Russ! i have both of the original re issues of these watches and have found the 65 does have play on the bezel as well so its obviously a qc issue that hasn't been picked up . 3 sets of adverts in this show , ooh, getting noticed now huh? Nice to see some new segways as well .
Hahaha! That’s only cos it’s a long one! The shows are usually 10/12 minutes so not many ads!;) I’m taking in all the 0.11111 pennies at a time Mal!!
Prefer the Pointer, especially with that burgundy dial! Would absolutely love it in Bronze and on a leather strap.
The Diver 65 is too "clean" for me, doesn't tingle my vintage senses.
Your review style is just the right kinda crazy 😄👍🏻
Hahahaha thank you my friend! I appreciate that ! The PD is a beauty!
Congrats on 9k subs
I like your Christopher Ward
The Oris watches are nice but the price point is a bit high for what is offered
Just my two cents
Thanks Ali!!! All the best to you!
Two absolute beauties .. Oris make such great watches .
Dermot! Appreciate you watching my friend!
2 gorgeous watches. The 63 might be called a dive style watch, but in it's defence it might be ok for shallow diving! I took a 100m Seiko 5 SRPD51K2 down to 50m and it was fine. Not many people even go deeper than 50m. As for cheaper brands a test on a Cronos diver saw the watch stop working at.... wait for it, 3000m/300 bar in a pressure chamber and it started ticking again after the pressure was released. That's impressive! My Heimdallr Monster and Steeldive tuna did just as well as my Seiko turtles handling 100m plus. Anyway I reckon the Oris is definitely OK for shallow diving and snorkeling. I think some companies want to protect themselves from warranty claims, just in case one leaks. Some say don't swim or snorkel with a 50m watch, but Samsung Watch Active 2 smartwatch has only 50m resistance but it has a dedicated app that measures swimming performance and it's fine! It could probably go a bit deeper too. I use it every week in the pool. I love the pilot watch, and I suppose if the pilot has to worry about 50m water resistance, he's really in trouble! Lol But......for those prices they should have a bigger number on the dial and better lume on the indices!
Oris watches have amazing looking faces on them , they're a awesome watch. Sadly people don't review them often so thanks for the review
Weird Darren as they are SWISS??;) They are lovely watches
@@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR what's weird ?only said they're nice looking and thanks for the review!? Weird or are you mad lol 😂 cheers
@@darrenfry4695 weird the fact you don’t see many reviews of Oris my friend;)
@@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR Ok, ..love your show imo it's the best watch show on TH-cam, you make me and mine smile and that's important in life so thanks mad watch collector
Love the Back To The Future music and sfx. 👍
Love the pointer❤
I never go above a 40 mm case nowadays . Got the oris diver 65 on a 42 though as the 40 underwhelmed me , it’s a beautiful watch
I bought the Divers65 with the bronze bezel this weekend. I'm just not that keen on the bracelet. So I swapped it for an 'Engineer' style one from ebay.
You know the 65-dive watch is a skin diver, i.e., worn against the skin not a wet suit. It's not meant to be a deep-sea diver; it is designed for snorkeling and scuba.
6:12...🤣🤣🤣👌🏻, Nice beatiful watches too!!‼️
Great review, sad to see the bezel on the diver 65 be so subpar. I love the pointer date, but the 50 meters water resistance is disappointing. I think i'll pass.
Like Oris, been tempted, but, that watch you had on blew them both away. 👍🏴
I picked that for reason! Yes I think build wise on par !
Cracking review. I love both these watches. Right up my street. A nice brown suede for the pointer date would look better. And an oyster style bracelet for the 65 would be better. Also… I see you on 9k subscribers. What an achievement. I remember when you had 9. 👏👏👏
Hahahaha OG you so are Joe! It’s a bit nuts but if you put the time in!!!!!!
That PD has your name all over it, justvgg the e right casual/dress vibe for you!
Really good show! I love the pointer date in green. I looked at the red which is stunning on the bracelet but I think it felt cheap
The bracelet not the watch haha
Yeah I’m with you there my friend! It’s a vintage looking watch so it would look best on a nice brown leather!!
I really like the BCPD, and will likely get one at some point, probably in a bronze and blue-dial config, on a leather/suede strap. I think that combo looks sharp. I don’t like that particular gray and blue color combo, but I do like the Diver Sixty-Five in general though, I’d probably go with a dark blue dial.
I have an Oris Divers Sixty-Five. Best watch I’ve ever had. There’s now a Caliber 400 version of the watch, which competes head to head against the Tudor Black Bay.
Had a Pointer date in the grey dial, gave it away to my cousin as a wedding gift. Always wanted and missed the Pointer date, finally bought another one in the same Burgundy/Bracelet spec as I was bored sitting at home recovering from my motorcycle accident.
Have to admit, your video caught me by surprise and did get quite a few honest entertainment moments out of it. Thanks for the chuckles.
I have the pointer on a black leather strap, absolutely love the watch
Excellent review russ, I’m not sure on the pricing in relation to the quality and specs of these two. The pointer would win it for me but that diver was so close to being bb58 territory yet soooo far!! Such a shame they couldnt of sorted the crappy lume and bezel and possibly made a suitable bracelet then it would have been an absolute bargain. Up up and away, next stop 10k subs. All the best mate 👍✌️
Thanks Mark!! Yeah a couple of little tweaks and these watches are red hot!
That pointer is a proper beaut. The hands and that dial colour. Do like the 65 but this is not my favourite of the lineup. Awesome and enjoyable video as always mate.
Thanks BW! This is far away from budget my friend!;)
Had my first experience of watching your video at 2 X speed . All out assault of awesomeness and works weirdly well. All about the pointer date. The dial and complication is just mega.
Hahahaha! God I wouldn’t recommend that in the morning!!;) yeah the PD is a special design !
Fun fact: Oris was at one point part of the swatch group😅
Ooooo great watch knowledge nugget my friend!
Yes it then became independent again after a management buy out
The brass pointer date on a leather strap is gorgeous.
Thanks Russell, really want to like the Divers 65, but for the points you raised it just isn’t on my list which is a real shame. Cheers
Thanks for watching Andrew! The bezel was a deal breaker!;)
A great way to spend a Friday evening in Australia 🇦🇺
Great video mate
Thanks for watching my friend!
I have a Diver 65 and my bezel is nice and tight, but mine is 42mm Topper Edition.
One lucky son of a wotsit! Congrats my friend!
@@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR Also loved your review on the Aquis. I have the Emerald green 43.5mm. It’s big but I have wrists thick as a donkeys dangler. 8”.
I have that Big Crown Pointer Date with the red dial but on a leather strap and love it!
That would be the way to go Tony! Plus cheaper !
@@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR It's about £100 cheaper before the megotiated discount from my AD
Do like this variant of the 65 , I’m a fan sold one a couple of years back which probably wasn’t a good move as it wore so well , the perils of the watch enthusiast.... saw you gringa last night you put a lot of work into your videos and deserve every success . Keep up the great work mate , you will be at 10k in no time
Brian!!! Appreciate that a lot and thanks for coming over! Oris don’t get a lot of TH-cam time do they!!?? But they are fabulous looking watches! Look forward to speaking in the future!!
Love the pointer and the CW. The Dartmouth is also really nice. Also cathedral hands aren't used nearly enough, much nicer than Mercedes hands.
Thanks for watching Wayne!!
Love that back to the future intro 👍
Yes Steven! ;)
Holy Balls! New Brunswick Represent!! Cheers Eric!!
Hahahaha
I like the clean, vintage look of the Diver 65 but the bezel and lume should be better considering the price Oris charges. The Big Crown Pointer would look lovely on a vintage leather strap. Enjoyed the video, your channel always makes me laugh :)
Thanks Danny! Always try to keep an upbeat outlook on life!;)
A great video Russ, have you seen the bronze edition of the pointer date, thats quite attractive too, cheers for making the starting to the weekend even better, with the drop of one of your videos.
The bronze with the green dial ooooooooo that’s the winner Mike! Incredible! Hope you are well my friend!
@@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR yep very well, especially as l am a long time Newcastle fan.
@@MichaelWilde.pushbikegraddad poor Stevie Bruce ;(
@@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR 6 wins in the last 39 matches, worst win percentage in the history of Newcastle, 8 mil in the bank if he walks away or sacked!
Good show again muka. Both oris a bit pants. Have you seen the new Squale GMT. Mmmnn suit you sir!!
Oooooo yes that does look great!!
You mentioned affordable luxury Russ. I half expected Ben to pop up. But ya, that is Oris, affordable luxury if that exists. I think they are starting to go upmarket as well. I love the look of these watches. Great video as usual. Happy New year.
Not sure if they fixed the issue or I got lucky. I picked up an diver 65 in bronze and the bezel is nice and tight with a nice click to it :-)
Yessssssssir, great show ! Very wearable those two BUT the diver bezle is rubish and a bracelet with pins is not appropriate for such a piece. Having a Brandon made MWC "homage" watch, manufactured - for me - is the better choice and makes more fun...........at a fraction of the price. I forgot to mention the bloody lume, just (quote - utterly ghastly - unquote, Hugo Mountbatten)
Well said Peter! Both great looking watches with a few little tweaks could be fantastic watches!
Love the short intro... 😎👍
Ya you definitely can’t unsee it haha! I was upset with the bezel and build quality of the diver 65. I’ve also owned an Aquis in past and if the 65 was same quality I’d own one. Bc I prefer the design of the diver 65. Pointer date is interesting
With you all the way my friend!
Brilliant review Russ! I prefer the diver... Oris makes lovely watches, these are in fact two great pieces, but I prefer their Aquis. That said, and if money was not a factor, I would go with the Sinn U50 . . . . I just have my heart set on one of these bad boys :) If not Sinn, then Doxa, I really like their watches too. Thank you again for your amazing reviews. Cheers my friend!
Thanks Felo!!! Yeah the U50 is up next week! ;) what a watch! Another 1k onto ofvthe price though my friend!;)
@@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR Yeah...well worth it, need to start saving so I can hopefully get my hands on one next year :)
Another entertaining video and Intresting breakdown of the Oris diver and Pilot.
Personally l prefer the pilot but bin that blingy strap for a decent leather or NATO.
The diver is ok ish , bit I'd rather spend that sort of money on a CWC diver to be honest.
Please take a look at the recent Walbrook/ Douglas skin diver reissues , they are well made and have some history
Hi Sam! Thanks for watching!
Will take a look!
Definitely the Big Crown Pointer Date! Love that look. 😍
Absolutely Sophia! It’s a looker!
Totally agree with your assessment. That 100m and bezel action along with the lume makes me back way off. The pilot watch looks great but 50m is a no go for me as well. Nice to look at but would not touch the watches with a 10 meter cattle prod. A great ghost buster once said something similar. Great video!!!
Thanks for watching my friend! Yeah just not great enough to make me want to buy one !
Yep, really like both of those. 100m? Fine by me for swimming pool depths :) As long as the diver looks as good as that one, who cares if it implodes at 101m! Great stuff as always Russell!
Agree Barry!!! Thanks for watching my friend!
The Sixty Five is 100m water resistant because the original 1965 diver had those specs. The script indicating this on both watches reads the same so I'm sure it was done on purpose. I'm fairly certain someone could go deeper than 100m without any issues, but how many people actually do that? 99.99999999% of people that buy this watch are buying it on looks alone.
It’s like buying a Ferrari in England my friend. It may go 0-80 in 5 seconds but you’ll still be doing 30mph in in a 30 zone ;) it’s the knowing that my Ferrari could be that fast;) this is the same with watches . Knowing I’ve got a Sinn U50 that could potentially do 500 metres is cool;) I think it’s a bit lazy especially in mid tear to higher end dive watches .
I think you were missing the point.... Vintage divers only went down 50 to 100 meters
For the money, the water resistance rating and bezel action on the divers 65 are just unforgivable. Having said that, the 40mm with the bronze bezel is still probably one of my all time favourite watches. The blue/black dial and blue AR coating does magical things in the light. What an absolute stunnarr! 😄
Hard to argue there Steve! All the best!
Pointer Date all the way! So beautiful with a tan strap
Will you be doing a review for the Oris Propilot Big Date in the near future? Just wondering, thanks!
I’m sure I will at some point my friend! It’s a great looking watch
@@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR Thank you and keep up the great content!
Very entertaining review, thanks 👍 . I would choose the Big Crown, but shame it is only 50m.
Thanks my friend! Yeah a little disappointed by that but we can’t deny that Pointer date is lovely!
Great show mate, the pointer would me my favorite of the two 😍. However 50 meters water resistant 😐. Keep up the great work 🔥👍
Cheers Richie!!!
My Citizen Skyhawk is 200m and it's only a push pull crown! I'd like the pointer date with a different dial colour. The diver is terrible, worst bezel I've seen and the hour "knob hand" was a bad choice. Excellent entertaining review as usual 👍🏻😃
Hahaha thanks Richard!!!
I’ve never seen that bracelet before on the pointer date, I actually really like it! But now I feel a bit guilty for liking it 😅
Absolutely fine my friend! You can love it for sure!!!
Great reviews. :)
Personally, if I had the money, I'd go for the pointer instead of the diver. At least with a watch like that, you don't *expect* a lot of water resistance.
The diver is just disappointing. I've got a $100 Pagani Design Sub homage that has better bezel action and better water resistance. I really don't know what they're thinking releasing the diver in that state. For $1,000, I would expect better than a desk diver.
I'm an ORIS fan (I own a Big Crown diver from the 1990s with 200m WR), but these two are way overpriced. I can get amazing value from some microbrands at the same price.
Great review as usual MWC!
I have the pointer, I pre-ordered it as soon as I could, after this color was announced. I have it on the bracelet and it’s basically my daily watch. It fits perfectly, the bracelet is super comfy. Ive not tried it on a NATO, but in leather, it kills.
The diver is disappointing, as I was going to add one at some point. Maybe if I find one used for a decent price.
Killer review as always!
Thanks my friend! I wouldn’t be unhappy owing either watch tbh but with a few tweaks these watches could be awesome!
@@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR Oh yea, I agree with all of what you said about the Pointer. The waiter rating is a little disappointing for sure, but I gave it a pass because I’m very rarely near water on a daily basis.
I’m a sucker for cathedral hands so love that Oris Big Crown pointer date (the diver looks great too shame about the price and specs!) I’ve been thinking about getting the Seiko spb155j1 aka the green baby alpinist, looks easily as good as the Oris imo except for the exhibition case back, which is less impressive on the Seiko, but it’s equipped with 200m water resistance for a great price! What do you reckon?
Oh yes my friend ! Very nice! The WR on the PD is fragile to me!
hahah really enjoy your channel!!!! upvoted!!!
Thank you my friend! All the best!
I was thoroughly underwhelmed with the Diver 65, for all the reasons you found. The bracelet wasn't much good either and for the price why not buy the Aquis which is a terrific watch.
Now let's talk about the pointer date dial 😍
It saddened me Peter! Wanted to love that Diver!
Love some oris and lusted after the pointer date but on the wrist i wanted better finish. For a grand i think plain printed dials are not good enough
Ooooo imagine the numerals on the pointer date wing applied?!?! That would look amazing !
@@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR absolutelyif you take the rado captain cook as an example the addition of metal edging to the lume plots really elevates the dial
Got the diver 65 , couldn’t care less about the lume . Beautiful watch and very comfortable. Date window don’t bother me either
Superb Mark!
@@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR love your reviews !! Outstanding I hasten to add
Only watch I regret selling is the c65 vintage diver
Does the big crown pointer come in 36mm in the red dial? I can find the other coloured dials in 36mm but not the red. Did they make a 36mm version of the red?
Excellent video thanks 👍🏻👍🏻
Cheers Steve!
Great watches! 👌🏻
I miss the BC3 Advance
Me to
Great quaility video again, thank you very much for fantastic entertaiment!
Both look iconic and get the vintage vibes totally right.
But for the price tag, using a standard sellita, they should get the main details right.
My pic would be the diver 65 with blue dial, black bezel and bracelet, What a stunning combination!!! But I had the same doubts with the cheapy bezel action. Get your homework rith, Oris. ;)
Thank you for watching my friend! Appreciate it!
The bezel is absolutely unacceptable! My favorite bezel to date is the 1953 and it’s $100! 😳🤯😳🤯😳🤯 come on, Oris!
There you go Shane! It’s so close to being a banger of a watch!!!