Thanks for the extra minute of silence... As i animate this rotating torus, i just randomly heard "Anyways, that's all, bye."... Fucking made me jump, man cheers
thank you so much for this video, its really nice to have people on the internet who are already experienced in the fields you (or in this case ,I) would like to get into for advice. I am SO glad I found your channel because you are really opening my eyes up in a way I needed them to when it comes to animation as a career and not just a hobby. I would like to try to do either storyboarding for TV, or maybe flat coloring (if that is a separate job than post-cleanup). Agh I am so glad to have you here on YT, i've been binge watching all of your videos and I am learning S O much! I am even learning more about myself as I watch them. It is so cool to hear this from your standpoint, and it is so helpful to hear your overall opinion of things. Again, thank you SO much for being here, keep up the AMAZING work, and don't stop inspiring.
The thing you mentioned about some boards having so many drawings that it's nearly animated already is something that for awhile I've been intimidated by lol I'm mainly curious about boarding because it looks like a good way to learn visual storytelling with few amounts of actual drawings needed, but some of the ones I've seen shared around that border on a rough pass of animation are wild.
Yeah animated boards I don’t consider those boarding standards. Anyone who enforces boards should be fully animated is a moron and also can be very tricky with the vendor studio
Directors and projects will vary. More complicated scenes (fights, car chases, choreography, takes) are just going to require more breakdowns for the editor to use in their animatic. It's very important to let the animators know with pictures what they're being asked to do, rather than rely on their instincts, or on a director wildly waving their arms.
13:07 Every time that animatic was showing I had to rewind the video to pay attention to what Toniko was saying. It's so good it's hard not to concentrate on it
What you said about how tricky & strange it was to get used to boarding for TV productions after starting out in film is so true. I had a somewhat similar experience to you in that my first job was being a junior story artist boarding trailers and revising existing boards for a film, it was way more presentation heavy and loose. When I first got into TV, I made a lot of mistakes with characters going off model and I ended up talking to the layout team and director to figure out what the best solutions were (mine was printing out the character model sheets for easy reference and pasting them up around my work area). The heartbreaking part about my first job was that the movie never came out, but thankfully the jobs I got after helped fill out my resume. I guess that's another advantage of TV boards vs film in terms of getting credited! Thanks for sharing your observations Toniko, it's really refreshing to see an experienced board artist share their perspective and helps me choose which storyboarding projects to take on more wisely!
Looks like employers are very demanding selecting a storyboard Artist Here is what I found in general: Skills & Requirements 2+ years of experience as a storyboard artist A portfolio which demonstrates excellent storyboard drawing and cinematography skills Strong drawing skills with a demonstrated sense of storytelling, staging, composition, and character acting and body/face emotions A keen eye for cinematography, shape, color, and detail Ability to manage creation process from quick thumbnail passes to more detailed stages with having feedbacks from the directors and cinematics team Strong verbal and written communication skills Advanced knowledge of Storyboard Pro and/or Photoshop, also After Effects or equivalent Ability to manage your own time and work within deadlines And more......
I find cooperation a good center for this,i don't want others to shine all of a sudden and take my work, changes should be held with responsibility not something else. Normally anyone would not say anything and me even guessing it's another failure down the drain if i made it but i do keep a feel of light that the person was emotionally seeing the value too of others.
Thanks for the video! I feel like I’ve had to scrape together my knowledge of the differences between feature and TV from what I’ve heard other story artists talk about, so it’s really nice to get a direct comparison in one place :D the structure of TV sounds helpful but also tiring… I’ve always wondered how much time to riff on visual ideas you have in TV because of the time crunch.
Your videos are really helping me encouraging me a bit ^^ I always wanted to go to something related to animation, but I have no idea if the path I took will take me there. I wasn't really allowed to go to an art school or go abroad to a more specific animation career since where I live it isn't a mayor industry, so the little animation I know is self taught. I hope I make it...
Omg ur so informative and ur videos helped me a lot!! In learning and understanding how the industry works and made me understand what field I wanna get into thank u very much 🙌💕💕💕💕
Hahaha this is no longer the standard for TV schedules. It's like 16 pages in 5 weeks done by 1 person. The schedule for storyboarding in television is absolutely atrocious. 6 weeks is considered an amazing schedule but it's still very tight. You need to turn around 22 minutes with no or minimal revisions if you want to hit it. The standard is now 5 weeks and getting shorter. But this isn't just storyboarding. It's everywhere in the animation industry. They keep trying to do things faster and cheaper and I've seen people have breakdowns because they can't meet the deadlines.
I'm working on the other end of the production pipeline, I've been doing script adaptation and English language dubbing on a few animated series. The one we're 75% of the way through has dragged on because the studio delivered the first half of episodes, and while adapting I was suddenly surprised to see an unfinished version of the episode, before special effects and sound editing had been done. We then waited as the studio was racing to get the rest of the series done, as it had already begun to air in Indonesia. I even saw the studio post an image on Instagram of one of the characters panicking saying something to the effect of the next episode is airing on such-and-such date! I showed it to the people here in the dubbing studio. I received the rest of the episodes and the last 3 were less less finalised, with the climactic action sequences being storyboard animatics. What was fun though was having the original storyboard images in the corner and while I was going over lines I could compare the storyboards with the final layout. Sometimes we do pitch reels for animated stories, where we dub to animatics as well. The more expressive the drawing the easier it is for us.
How long does it take to storyboard a 90 min to 2-hour animated film? Or just double 44 minutes? It is interesting seeing how long story boarding takes, even for 44 minutes. Don't feel as bad anymore about some independent pre-production work I did LMAO
7 weeks for a TV story artist??? Where I work we only get 4 (;﹏;) Though to be fair though, we aren't expected to time our boards at all so long as the actions of the characters match the nat pause. Also, I wanted to ask: how do you go about finding projects to work on? Working on something like the Sonic movies would be really cool, but I've never seen any listings online looking for board artists for live action or video game projects.
You may have mentioned it, but what programs are most common in feature vs tv? Or what programs should someone invest/spend time learning to easily fit into common pipe lines? I’ve been using toonsquid to animate on my iPad lately but it sounds like a computer based program may be preferred?
As you say, it could be because of the people in charge but in UK, more than half of my jobs in TV we pitched instead of timing our boards. :) Great video. Its given me a bit of zen from years of missing out on feature roles for various reasons. You're right about making the most of what you got. ^^
I would like to add that have u already made a video on how u make these videos? Bc u explain it Soo well!! And to the point so I was wondering do u first make the whole script of the topic or u just start talking on a topic and just go from there without any prep work
You don't need an art school to begin your animation career. You only need 3 men, Toniko Pantoja, Alan Becker and Howard Whimshurst 😌
Yep lol
Hell yes
Aaron Blaise
@@milmundos of course. He is a great classical animator
Add some Ethan Becker, WAM Animation, Marco Bucci, Proko, Marc Brunet, David Finch, Drawabox/Uncomfortable and Kienan Lafferty to that
Thanks for the extra minute of silence... As i animate this rotating torus, i just randomly heard "Anyways, that's all, bye."... Fucking made me jump, man
cheers
thank you so much for this video, its really nice to have people on the internet who are already experienced in the fields you (or in this case ,I) would like to get into for advice. I am SO glad I found your channel because you are really opening my eyes up in a way I needed them to when it comes to animation as a career and not just a hobby. I would like to try to do either storyboarding for TV, or maybe flat coloring (if that is a separate job than post-cleanup). Agh I am so glad to have you here on YT, i've been binge watching all of your videos and I am learning S O much! I am even learning more about myself as I watch them. It is so cool to hear this from your standpoint, and it is so helpful to hear your overall opinion of things. Again, thank you SO much for being here, keep up the AMAZING work, and don't stop inspiring.
@Mob awww, thanks :D
The thing you mentioned about some boards having so many drawings that it's nearly animated already is something that for awhile I've been intimidated by lol
I'm mainly curious about boarding because it looks like a good way to learn visual storytelling with few amounts of actual drawings needed, but some of the ones I've seen shared around that border on a rough pass of animation are wild.
Yeah animated boards I don’t consider those boarding standards. Anyone who enforces boards should be fully animated is a moron and also can be very tricky with the vendor studio
Directors and projects will vary. More complicated scenes (fights, car chases, choreography, takes) are just going to require more breakdowns for the editor to use in their animatic. It's very important to let the animators know with pictures what they're being asked to do, rather than rely on their instincts, or on a director wildly waving their arms.
13:07 Every time that animatic was showing I had to rewind the video to pay attention to what Toniko was saying. It's so good it's hard not to concentrate on it
What you said about how tricky & strange it was to get used to boarding for TV productions after starting out in film is so true. I had a somewhat similar experience to you in that my first job was being a junior story artist boarding trailers and revising existing boards for a film, it was way more presentation heavy and loose. When I first got into TV, I made a lot of mistakes with characters going off model and I ended up talking to the layout team and director to figure out what the best solutions were (mine was printing out the character model sheets for easy reference and pasting them up around my work area). The heartbreaking part about my first job was that the movie never came out, but thankfully the jobs I got after helped fill out my resume. I guess that's another advantage of TV boards vs film in terms of getting credited! Thanks for sharing your observations Toniko, it's really refreshing to see an experienced board artist share their perspective and helps me choose which storyboarding projects to take on more wisely!
Thank you for all your hard work! Your animations always inspire me! :)
I’m a new subscriber. I’m absolutely loving this channel, it’s exactly what I needed
Looks like employers are very demanding selecting a storyboard Artist
Here is what I found in general:
Skills & Requirements
2+ years of experience as a storyboard artist
A portfolio which demonstrates excellent storyboard drawing and cinematography skills
Strong drawing skills with a demonstrated sense of storytelling, staging, composition, and character acting and body/face emotions
A keen eye for cinematography, shape, color, and detail
Ability to manage creation process from quick thumbnail passes to more detailed stages with having feedbacks from the directors
and cinematics team
Strong verbal and written communication skills
Advanced knowledge of Storyboard Pro and/or Photoshop, also After Effects or equivalent
Ability to manage your own time and work within deadlines
And more......
I find cooperation a good center for this,i don't want others to shine all of a sudden and take my work, changes should be held with responsibility not something else.
Normally anyone would not say anything and me even guessing it's another failure down the drain if i made it but i do keep a feel of light that the person was emotionally seeing the value too of others.
I just discovered you Toniko, YOU ROCK!
Your videos are a goldmine, they're so in-depth and helpful!
My man over here using Storyboard pro, it is slowly growing on me as well! Love that you can seem less LT make an animatic in app.
Thanks for the video! I feel like I’ve had to scrape together my knowledge of the differences between feature and TV from what I’ve heard other story artists talk about, so it’s really nice to get a direct comparison in one place :D the structure of TV sounds helpful but also tiring… I’ve always wondered how much time to riff on visual ideas you have in TV because of the time crunch.
Your videos are really helping me encouraging me a bit ^^ I always wanted to go to something related to animation, but I have no idea if the path I took will take me there. I wasn't really allowed to go to an art school or go abroad to a more specific animation career since where I live it isn't a mayor industry, so the little animation I know is self taught. I hope I make it...
ty for this ive been really wanting to figure out the differences between the two
Great video, thanks for sharing your experience. So much info, really appreciate all your videos.
This is so helpful, thank you so much Toniko!! cheers from Argentina :)
This is an amazing video, thank you so much!!
Omg ur so informative and ur videos helped me a lot!! In learning and understanding how the industry works and made me understand what field I wanna get into thank u very much 🙌💕💕💕💕
Thank you so much!! I really needed this :D
Hahaha this is no longer the standard for TV schedules. It's like 16 pages in 5 weeks done by 1 person. The schedule for storyboarding in television is absolutely atrocious. 6 weeks is considered an amazing schedule but it's still very tight. You need to turn around 22 minutes with no or minimal revisions if you want to hit it. The standard is now 5 weeks and getting shorter. But this isn't just storyboarding. It's everywhere in the animation industry. They keep trying to do things faster and cheaper and I've seen people have breakdowns because they can't meet the deadlines.
thats so much lol at that point id just turn in thumbnails no point in cleaning that up
@@TonikoPantoja We definitely try hahaha
An average anime episode is made in just eight weeks. What a tight schedule!
I'm working on the other end of the production pipeline, I've been doing script adaptation and English language dubbing on a few animated series. The one we're 75% of the way through has dragged on because the studio delivered the first half of episodes, and while adapting I was suddenly surprised to see an unfinished version of the episode, before special effects and sound editing had been done. We then waited as the studio was racing to get the rest of the series done, as it had already begun to air in Indonesia. I even saw the studio post an image on Instagram of one of the characters panicking saying something to the effect of the next episode is airing on such-and-such date! I showed it to the people here in the dubbing studio. I received the rest of the episodes and the last 3 were less less finalised, with the climactic action sequences being storyboard animatics. What was fun though was having the original storyboard images in the corner and while I was going over lines I could compare the storyboards with the final layout. Sometimes we do pitch reels for animated stories, where we dub to animatics as well. The more expressive the drawing the easier it is for us.
Thank you for this. I love it.
Cg spectrum is the future school i want to be in it can be with companies too! But i was thinking of my own suit too!
Question: can you make a video about how to make storyboard for video games? Thanks a ton.
I would also love to see this!
Yes that would be very interesting!
Thanks for sharing man.
Great video, really clear
How long does it take to storyboard a 90 min to 2-hour animated film? Or just double 44 minutes? It is interesting seeing how long story boarding takes, even for 44 minutes. Don't feel as bad anymore about some independent pre-production work I did LMAO
Nice Board work!!!
ooo this is a interesting video. I def want to learn the diffrences.
7 weeks for a TV story artist??? Where I work we only get 4 (;﹏;)
Though to be fair though, we aren't expected to time our boards at all so long as the actions of the characters match the nat pause.
Also, I wanted to ask: how do you go about finding projects to work on? Working on something like the Sonic movies would be really cool, but I've never seen any listings online looking for board artists for live action or video game projects.
You may have mentioned it, but what programs are most common in feature vs tv? Or what programs should someone invest/spend time learning to easily fit into common pipe lines? I’ve been using toonsquid to animate on my iPad lately but it sounds like a computer based program may be preferred?
so cool!
i kinda shock at last endscreen you still talk XD i alway just listen without notice video end
Thanks!
Not gonna lie to you,if i had the time i will perfect this too,for faster work load.
So true
Agreed
As you say, it could be because of the people in charge but in UK, more than half of my jobs in TV we pitched instead of timing our boards. :)
Great video. Its given me a bit of zen from years of missing out on feature roles for various reasons. You're right about making the most of what you got. ^^
I would like to add that have u already made a video on how u make these videos? Bc u explain it Soo well!! And to the point so I was wondering do u first make the whole script of the topic or u just start talking on a topic and just go from there without any prep work
:D Hi!!