Can You Solve This Astronomical Riddle?

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  • In this video we look at one of the greatest astronomy riddles in history.
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  • @upandatom
    @upandatom  4 ปีที่แล้ว +148

    How did you go? :)

    • @Sewerin94
      @Sewerin94 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      It must be some kind of forbidden mechanism :)

    • @sandeepkumardas732
      @sandeepkumardas732 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Love u jade🥰🥰

    • @shogun2215
      @shogun2215 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      I did manage to work it out, but there's no way I could explain the answer as eloquently as you could :P

    • @hoodedR
      @hoodedR 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      yaaayyy I got it right. Loved this video.

    • @upandatom
      @upandatom  4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      oh no! :(

  • @edwinjoy9
    @edwinjoy9 4 ปีที่แล้ว +185

    I really enjoy being taught like this i.e. coming up with answers on our own. This makes us 'think' and leads to more discussion.

    • @MarcelinoDeseo
      @MarcelinoDeseo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      This is how we should learn science :-)

    • @edwinjoy9
      @edwinjoy9 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Exactly!

    • @johnkean6852
      @johnkean6852 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@MarcelinoDeseo No: this is how we were taught every subject at school: l am still puzzled by some aspects. Education is to TEACH knowledge. There are some pieces of the jigsaw l am still trying to grasp from science and l left school years ago. If it took scientists 60 years to solve this riddle why should a 13 year old child be expected to grasp everything in a 30 minute lesson. 🤔 This video was very entertaining and l enjoyed it immensely but this puzzle-type of teaching should be a fun lesson on a Friday afternoon. If we were focussed only on one subject well yes - l agree but we had 6 plus subjects to juggle.
      We should return to the days when we had to memorise _knowledge_ (as l did from 5-11 and passed my 11+) not the unit system of study which is the methodology in place now at Universities. If you have a brain chock full of knowledge you can then later add to it by doing your own research: theses, doctorates.
      It is for this reason that eg High flying scientists don't understand photosynthesis. Chopping down the rainforests to provide areas for grazing cattle to supply the world with beef was the reason cited due to O2 deficit as one main reason forgetting that trees with, chlorophyl-rich leaves, emit CO2 at night in absence of sunlight _ which in actual fact, *adds* to global warming: _greenhouse gas_ .
      I've asked: 'brainy' 10 A Levels plus (privately educated) students very simple questions and they _always_ fail. Sample questions: what powers the human heart, what's a femur, define osmosis, and what happened during the Punic Wars? They can never answer. l am not afraid to admit l didn't grasp the solutiion to the riddle posed in video: There was a great build up of clues then towards the end we get the solution which (for me) wasn't emphasized enough having had the clues explained crystal clearly and _reiterated_ . I thought O3 was a sign that the spacial body emiting green spectra was an earthlike planet. And the people who got it straight away (dense earth borne states of matter relinquish e to other atoms more - not released as photons with less dense bodies) were scientists who admitted they knew the answer and the ones who solved it say they only did so because the clues were laid out for them. *She is really saying that less dense brains are brighter* But nobody got that 🤣 Happy Yultide.🎄

    • @johnkean6852
      @johnkean6852 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I got the answer: are you really saying: *less dense brains are brighter* 🤔

    • @traininggrounds9450
      @traininggrounds9450 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      But just look at the problem you have with your attitude already. "This makes us think..." Why do you need to be made to think? That is why you are not cut out for professions that are all about thinking. If you don't naturally do what the job asks for then you don't have an affinity for that job. Don't do work that is resisting your natural flow. But there are people that want to think and analyze why things work and what the underlying mechanism may be for any particular aspect of nature.

  • @pifibbi
    @pifibbi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +77

    6:02 That is the cutest photon I have ever seen in my life

    • @manchovie3480
      @manchovie3480 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don't think I have seen any other photons.

    • @rogermwilcox
      @rogermwilcox 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It looks a bit like a sperm cell.

    • @LivKASS
      @LivKASS 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Mancho vie I think I’ve ONLY seen photons😜

    • @manchovie3480
      @manchovie3480 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@LivKASS True but not individually which is what I meant.

    • @kennethkustren9381
      @kennethkustren9381 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Forget the photon... I want more face time with the gorgeous scientist girl !!

  • @ascetic3312
    @ascetic3312 4 ปีที่แล้ว +112

    2:34 - Good lord, they just straight up murdered Nebulium.

    • @95rav
      @95rav 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      at least Kenny lived.

    • @00Recoil
      @00Recoil 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Defenestrated, apparently.

    • @olmostgudinaf8100
      @olmostgudinaf8100 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@00Recoil I have always found it weird that the word "defenestration" even exists.
      I mean, it must be a very common thing to deserve a word of its own, right?

    • @zoltanposfai3451
      @zoltanposfai3451 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What's next? Plutonium is not an element? Only an elementoid? ;)

    • @kanedaku
      @kanedaku 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zoltanposfai3451 Gives off the correct reaction in the correct timeframe to power a flux capacitor though, so will always be a hero to me.

  • @DavidMaurand
    @DavidMaurand 4 ปีที่แล้ว +140

    i find jade to be an excellent teacher - the material is well organized and imaginatively presented. this is true even if i fail the puzzle.

    • @upandatom
      @upandatom  4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      aww thank you! It was a hard puzzle, remember it took 60 years to solve!

    • @cosmogoblin
      @cosmogoblin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@upandatom Yep - it's easy (ish) the way you presented it, because we knew which clues we needed, but astronomers back then didn't know what was relevant!

    • @eknaap8800
      @eknaap8800 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Doesn't she deserves to be written with a CAPITAL? You've done this with your own name. Or doesn't your keyboard support capitals??? 🤬😢

    • @prschuster
      @prschuster 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      She is very easy to listen to, and she has a very pleasant speaking voice.

    • @GuinessOriginal
      @GuinessOriginal 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I really hope she is a teacher

  • @amaarquadri
    @amaarquadri 3 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    One amazing thing about this is that these "forbidden lines" have only ever been observed via astronomy.
    The timescales for an individual atom to drop from the metastable state to the ground state and emit a photon are still really long (~100,000 years). So to observe this, you need lots of atoms so that a few of them will drop within human timescales.
    But if you fit that many atoms in a small box, they will necessarily be squished together enough that the collisions will prevent the atoms from staying in the metastable state to begin with.
    So the only way to observe this on human timescales is to have a ridiculously low density, ridiculously large group of atoms: i.e. a stellar nebula.
    I think it's amazing that there are quantum effects that haven't (and likely won't for a very long time) been observed with experiments, and that we only know exist because of theory and astronomical measurements!

    • @WilliamAMills
      @WilliamAMills 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thanks! I was wondering why they did not try oxygen at low density in a "vacuum" jar.

    • @jpdemer5
      @jpdemer5 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The metastable state that gives off the hydrogen 21-centimeter line, which is so useful in radio astronomy, had a ten-million-year lifetime!

    • @isilder
      @isilder 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I wouldn't think thats true. I think it inspired the technique to make an atom at absolute zero, 0 Kelvin. This seems to be an observation of forbidden lines here on earth. See , the electron will be in the metastable state, for ever, until something knocks it out. A collision doesn't emit a photon, but there's something else triggering it that will make it emit the forbidden line photons. Its just that its going to be quite a while between such events *outside the lab*. So observing it in nature, no. In the lab? I think so

    • @isilder
      @isilder 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Phosphorescence is a type of photoluminescence related to fluorescence. When exposed to light (radiation) of a shorter wavelength, a phosphorescent substance will glow, absorbing the light and reemitting it at a longer wavelength. Unlike fluorescence, a phosphorescent material does not immediately reemit the radiation it absorbs. Instead, a phosphorescent material absorbs some of the radiation energy and reemits it for a much longer time after the radiation source is removed.

    • @alasdairwhyte6616
      @alasdairwhyte6616 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      so we need to observe 100000 atoms for a year to see 1 event. a kilogram of water has 1.004*10^26 atoms so that contains 1.004*10^21 groups of 100000 atoms each of which can produce 1 event a year so that would be 1.004*10^21 events in 1 kilogram in 1 year - I think our scientist have this under control.

  • @tuchapoltr
    @tuchapoltr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    Okay, I'm gunna try my hands at this. Paused at 11:58
    My guess is so: the spectral lines belong to an element found on Earth, and it corresponds to a jump down from a metastable state to a stable state. We don't see this on Earth because of how faint it is. Because there are many more particles in Earth's atmosphere compared to the nebulae, the expected time between collisions is a lot smaller on Earth. Because of that, any electron that does get into a metastable state is much more likely to be knocked out of it by an atom, than to fall back into a stable state naturally. But if it gets knocked down by an atom, it doesn't release a photon. So, we don't really see these ever-present but faint spectrums on Earth, as metastable electrons don't have enough time to release photons naturally.
    Edit: Ayyy, I think I did it pretty well for a CS student

    • @upandatom
      @upandatom  4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      yeah you did :)

    • @CaesarCassius
      @CaesarCassius 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My god science is boring

    • @derinus
      @derinus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yeah clue 3 kinda gave it away didn't it?

    • @nicholaswion846
      @nicholaswion846 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The only thing that I got wrong, was that I thought it would be Nitrogen.

    • @moisavictoria
      @moisavictoria 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wish i actually had the motivation to do that but my mind can't put a red string together easily

  • @HildeTheOkayish
    @HildeTheOkayish 4 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    I like this format! I managed to work out thanks to the clear explanations of the clues. And I really feel like I understand how it works.

    • @upandatom
      @upandatom  4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      That's so good to hear!

    • @johnroberts1734
      @johnroberts1734 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I got it as well. We have so much to learn; good stuff !!!

    • @extradimension7356
      @extradimension7356 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow I'm amazed, I didn't on a completely different track, + how do you say Neboooolium ? Nebula-eum ? Nebyoubleum… Neb,,, Ohhh tish tosh. I did remember though that Oxygen has it's own "Funky" green lines from Hubble camera design and imagery lol.

  • @theadamabrams
    @theadamabrams 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    3:15 I feel like Dugan already answered the riddle almost completely, only missing that "the right state to emit them" was the transition from metastable to stable. He says everything else right in those three sentences. But almost completely is not completely ;-)

  • @RichMitch
    @RichMitch 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Meta stable state was explained brilliantly. I learned something.

    • @eknaap8800
      @eknaap8800 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Basic High School stuff in Europe... 😎

  • @ronniabati8550
    @ronniabati8550 4 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    I didn’t know Bowen wore a tie while brushing his teeth before bed.

    • @tarmaque
      @tarmaque 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Who doesn't?

    • @w0ttheh3ll
      @w0ttheh3ll 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      well, now you do.

    • @BeckVMH
      @BeckVMH 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes, based on the animation; however, she clearly states, “...he quickly dressed.” My assumption is he had already removed his shoes and perhaps his pants.

  • @sdkjl5984
    @sdkjl5984 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is like a beautiful violin solo where one is awed by the piece and just vaguely aware of all the effort of preparation.

  • @Visaipalagai
    @Visaipalagai 4 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    This video is both interesting and informative. I'm in love with physics now more than ever and thanks for that!

    • @keerthivasanr8562
      @keerthivasanr8562 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi bro.. your big fan here... When will you give comeback... Waiting for you❤️

    • @manasnayak2810
      @manasnayak2810 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bro it mean you didn't meet physics' dad yet and that's Math so... Loving physics won't make any sense

  • @CoatiRoux
    @CoatiRoux 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I had it exactly right within seconds. Although I have to admit I have a PhD in chemistry and I do not have the faintest idea whether I came to the right conclusion from your hints or had the answer lying around somewhere in my cluttered brain.

    • @ApiolJoe
      @ApiolJoe 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same here, also from chemistry background. I had a rought idea of what was going on, and then the clues felt like giving the solution out haha.
      However there is still something that stumbles me a bit: we explained the presence of the "strange frequencies", but we didn't explain the absence of the expected lines from the real atoms. I mean, the collision rate is small, therefore there is no a priori reason to think that atoms lie mostly in a metastable state. So I still expect these atoms to absorb and emit photons normally, and exhibiting the "normal" rays. Why don't they?

    • @ChiDraconis
      @ChiDraconis 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@ApiolJoe
      *metastability* as found just now on the "inter-webs" is commonly shown as second order sombrero function so-called because it is shaped like a sombrero hat when presented as Hot Jalapeño ○ In Stern-Gerlach a vast conspiracy to confuse the Norman's Normals with some Glibberish about ± Up-Down which is a consequence of the Gravity field in which it is conducted and constructed to distract from the Neutral Kaon Decay • The neutral kaon is an unstable particle that has been produced by high-energy accelerators. A neutral kaon at rest can decay into a pair of oppositely charged pions which are Pious servants of the Illusion of Gravity which astoundingly has both + and negative consequences when taken over vast regions of our Hadronic Illusion → The kaon mass is 3.566 times as large as the mass of a charged pion so where did the mass go George? It is emitted in the "strange frequencies" which in the +Gravity Field are chromatically dispersed such that they "dispersed" vertically into the Huge Sucker that we know as the Gravity Well of earth such that the observable time is dispersed spatially in as we know it in the 3-d Spacetime • In a lineac the Neutral Kaon Decay is a rather rare event which with sufficient loading of the test device they occur several feet down the tube from where the charged Kaon becomes detectable: "Decay's" ( huh? )
      ·
      In particle physics, a kaon, also called a K meson and denoted K , is any of a group of four mesons distinguished by a quantum number called strangeness then when the Hot Jalapeño go cold and dark the Quantum Resonance must be put back into the QCD Reservoir which is above the The Hagedorn temperature *▬TH▬* which is about 150 MeV or about 1.7×1012 Kelvin-the same as the mass-energy of the lightest hadrons-the pion for later use in the time-derivative of causality which is dispensed in astoundingly miniscule units called "Quanta" ○ Our instructor will probably block me or get really hot or back-fire with really informed professional work but look at this!
      Spin: 0?????
      Like I said but what are they hiding in these green-lines:
      images.app.goo.gl/FV5VobvfQpE98L7m7

  • @Geilomeilo2
    @Geilomeilo2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I can't stress enough how much i appreciate your videos. It's nice to see someone putting work into getting people into science and critical thinking with such passion, excitement and great charisma, the world definitely needs more people like you!
    Take care and keep it up :)

    • @upandatom
      @upandatom  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you so much! :)

  • @samgu3750
    @samgu3750 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the fact that we can seperate the photons into lines shows that the light emitted from something could be refracted long before it reachs us, so we only see a portion of the spectrum

  • @jason-paulwells6696
    @jason-paulwells6696 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your enthusiasm and passion in explaining these difficult concepts in simple terms is a joy to watch.

  • @RichMitch
    @RichMitch 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    2:18 they've painted a telescope peach!

  • @tomasalvim1022
    @tomasalvim1022 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    My guess: The line is caused by an element that exists on earth, but its from a meta-stable state, that on earth goes done by collisions, while in the nebula it has time to relax naturaly and emit the photon.

    • @splendedsounds3101
      @splendedsounds3101 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      What about Earth energy added to the soup even in light paste .

  • @radiowallofsound
    @radiowallofsound 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    5:48 is the clearest explanation I've ever heard about emitted frequency... I loved it!

  • @stephenpuryear
    @stephenpuryear 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Jade, I am already looking forward to the next video. Thank you again for your very clear presentations on complex interesting topics.

    • @upandatom
      @upandatom  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you Stephen!

  • @esa062
    @esa062 4 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    I like it when things are not dumbed down. People either use their brain or don't get anything. That increases brain use.

  • @chemusvandergeek1209
    @chemusvandergeek1209 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    2:46 From evidence thus far, I'm guessing spectral shift...

  • @kumardigvijaymishra5945
    @kumardigvijaymishra5945 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jade, your topics are lovable, and animations are magnificent. Keep me enlightened. Thanks

  • @bradleycarroll5845
    @bradleycarroll5845 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was really excellent! Forbidden lines are not often covered in online resources, and your way of approaching it is just great. Congratulations!

  • @iainmac6272
    @iainmac6272 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I did very well with the riddle. I found it helped to already know the answer.

  • @KhAnubis
    @KhAnubis 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    To be honest I got a little lost among the clues but I had a feeling it would be a bit of an Occam‘s Razor phenomenon, the first clue however really helped me understand how we know what elements stars are made of. Great video though, I was kind of wondering what you were going to be making in the observatory!

    • @upandatom
      @upandatom  4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Thanks Willie :) it was a pretty hard riddle, remember it took 60 years to solve!

    • @amehak1922
      @amehak1922 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nerdgasm galore. :)

  • @rksnj6797
    @rksnj6797 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your videos!!! Always nice to have a mental exercise from time to time!

  • @mdderrek9280
    @mdderrek9280 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The animation is terrific! The smiley face electrons is a very very VERRRY good way to ease the comprehension!!!!!!

  • @NetAndyCz
    @NetAndyCz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +188

    42? The answer is 42. What was the question? :)

    • @BaliwTaKa
      @BaliwTaKa 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      hahaha (y)

    • @Xeridanus
      @Xeridanus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      WHAT DO YOU GET WHEN YOU MULTIPLY SIX BY NINE
      There's no more scrabble pieces....

    • @NetAndyCz
      @NetAndyCz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Xeridanus ...in base 13 ;)

    • @cosmogoblin
      @cosmogoblin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@NetAndyCz "I may be a sorry case, but I don't write jokes in base 13." - Douglas Adams, trying to dodge accusations of being in the Illuminati ;)

    • @NetAndyCz
      @NetAndyCz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@cosmogoblin I know he did say that, but... it is really suspicious because it matches up so well:)

  • @prnv9876
    @prnv9876 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Ans- I think becoz of dense atmosphere , electron can't emit photons in metastable state as your clue and in nebula there is less density
    So I think this is the answer
    At last I love your videos and watch always when it comes
    #feedback You should put more videos on Cosmology
    Edit-I am 16yr old and happy that my Ans was right

    • @upandatom
      @upandatom  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      you were right!

    • @Dunkelelf3
      @Dunkelelf3 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @fynes leigh ????

  • @JM-Games
    @JM-Games 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would love to see more videos similar to this, this channel will get big very fast, super interesting and extremely insightful, I knew about this before I watched the video yet still felt like I came out knowing more.

  • @caput_in_astris
    @caput_in_astris 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing explanations - I really loved the pedagogic way to let us find out (and thus understand 😀) the “secret” behind H alpha, S-II and O-III emission lines!

  • @jbrecken
    @jbrecken 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Before getting the clues I figured it was just a known element Hubble-shifted.

  • @MateusAntonioBittencourt
    @MateusAntonioBittencourt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    My guess is... when a atom is bumped into a metastable state on earth... because the atmosphere is so thick... it doesn't have time to decay naturally before it gets bumped again. In the nebula, when a hydrogen atom gets bumped... it has a bigger chance it will not bump into another atom, therefore it can decay by emitting a photon.

    • @upandatom
      @upandatom  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      you got it!

    • @Alex-um4fe
      @Alex-um4fe 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      And where does the photon come from ?

    • @yosoybrunon
      @yosoybrunon 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      If I understand correctky, that's the extra energy accumulated in the electron due to the collision. As our own energy transformers (from electromagnetic -sun- to chemical -photovoltaic batteries- to electricity) electrons absorb energy, wether it's EM (a photon) or kinetic (an impact) but it will always release it a EM, in the form of a photon. (Please correct me if I'm wrong!)

  • @ianflemings4989
    @ianflemings4989 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your videos are some of the most educational in all of TH-cam. Great work!

  • @matthewjamestaylor
    @matthewjamestaylor 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video. I am always happy to see your work. Cheers.

  • @scientificconsideration8294
    @scientificconsideration8294 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    6:36 I think you accidentally wrote "Hyrdogen".
    Edit: Don't worry, mistakes can happen to anyoen!

  • @jerry3790
    @jerry3790 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    My instinct was that the spectrum had been redshifted by a massive object. Guess I was wrong

    • @upandatom
      @upandatom  4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ah well good guess!

    • @raheebhassan2400
      @raheebhassan2400 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Me too! But then the fact about meta stable states made me reconsider, as they would have mentioned red shifting in the clues if it was Bowen's solution.

    • @rossyburns4392
      @rossyburns4392 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      dropler effect?

  • @eduardolima5495
    @eduardolima5495 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I always learn something from you Jade, you are amazing! Keep up with the amazing job!
    With this video I learned that if something seems a little odd there is a chance that i'm looking from a biased point of view. As the colors that the atoms emits are biased by our atmosphere!! Sometimes something strange is just some bias that we have!! Thank you!!

  • @adiamo0001
    @adiamo0001 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really liked the way you presented this video! All the information of a quality science video, but presented in a way to make us, your viewers, try to put the pieces together to solve the puzzle ourselves. Thanks! Your channel is really great!

    • @upandatom
      @upandatom  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm so glad you enjoyed it! :)

  • @xcalibur6482
    @xcalibur6482 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Hey Jade plz make video over the new findings of Parker probe.
    plzzzzz 😬

  • @MedlifeCrisis
    @MedlifeCrisis 4 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    What actually causes the meta stable state to exist though?

    • @upandatom
      @upandatom  4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      What do you mean? It is a property of nature

    • @MedlifeCrisis
      @MedlifeCrisis 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@upandatom OK, can't argue with that answer I suppose 😂 I mean I understand and was familiar with the concept of stable energy states as the only options for electrons but didn't know intermediate states exist and having always thought it was a case of either/or it's just interesting to learn there is an in-between. Brilliant video. Your clues gave me enough to guess. Hope we'll see more location shoots from you 😃

    • @renedekker9806
      @renedekker9806 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@upandatom I am with Medlife Crisis, and would like to hear more about them. What makes the state metastable, for example. I am guessing a stable state is when an energy level is filled with the maximum number of electrons for that level. And unstable state is when a lower energy level has one or more gaps that the electron can fall back to. But what is a metastable state? Is that a separate energy level inbetween the normal levels? In that case, what makes that energy level special? Is it a special condition for the electrons?

    • @mkhodr1
      @mkhodr1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      these meta stable states can be explained on a energy level by having a lower energy then its "neighbors". it can be calculated using orbital theory. You can see these states as low half life dacaying elements that you could never see on earth

    • @renedekker9806
      @renedekker9806 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mkhodr1 Thanks. Do you know what the difference is between these meta stable states and unstable and stable states? After all, stable states also have an energy level that is lower than its neighbours.

  • @Kafzilla
    @Kafzilla 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really liked the riddle and worked it out. I would say that the sentence "The density in a nebula is purer than any vacuum ever produced on Earth" could perhaps count as a clue 5. Awesome presentation! Ira Bowen must have been crazy smart to realize it!

  • @markxxx21
    @markxxx21 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    15:05 I just love it when the little electron eats the photon. He looks so evil.

  • @reginaldokeke8354
    @reginaldokeke8354 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wow you're so generous with hearts in the comments section.

  • @CroomTM
    @CroomTM 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I didnt get the riddle but I still had fun trying to figure it out!!

    • @upandatom
      @upandatom  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's great! It was a hard riddle, it took 60 years to solve!

  • @andrewjohnson2373
    @andrewjohnson2373 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video cleared a lot of things up for me. Very good animations as well!

  • @satyakisil4289
    @satyakisil4289 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    1:35
    Oh, God. This meme makes a return after SO many years.
    Makes me feel at home :)

  • @amiralozse1781
    @amiralozse1781 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    5:42 "a characteristic of the universe is that its kinda lazy!"
    ahh, so I'm a universe of my own!! always knew theres something special bout me ;-)
    edit:
    ... thinking about it... maybe I'm just an electron :-(
    You are a great techer!!

  • @n8style
    @n8style 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video and love the clues format!

  • @socialengineer1441
    @socialengineer1441 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love mystery, it stimulates somthing that takes away the claustrophobicness. Isolenicness in a simple thing is a gift.

  • @sufsanin1917
    @sufsanin1917 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I got it.
    I am 13 years old.
    Right after hearing clue 4.

    • @sufsanin1917
      @sufsanin1917 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Can anyone please tell me, what it means for your comment to be"highlighted".

    • @Elephantstonica
      @Elephantstonica 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      You clicked on a reply or like to your comment in your inbox, so when it’s brought up it’s highlighted and placed toward the top of your view of the comment section, for you to find easily.

    • @Elephantstonica
      @Elephantstonica 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Jonah Bechara
      Still, not bad for a 13yr old. Credit where credit’s due.
      That’s if he did figure it out, you know teenagers. No explanation is given after all.
      Mind you we don’t know that you figured it out either.

    • @sufsanin1917
      @sufsanin1917 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Rosa-lv8yw I agree.

    • @sufsanin1917
      @sufsanin1917 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Rosa-lv8yw She almost told the answer.

  • @sebastianelytron8450
    @sebastianelytron8450 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Someone explain to me how this channel can't hit 150K subscribers when Physics Girl is over 1 million?? This video beats anything Physics Girl has put out.

    • @cheesywiz9443
      @cheesywiz9443 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree ... in my opinion most of her(jade) videos are more interesting , more in depth and has better explanations but jade makes videos that would only attract people that are somewhat interested in science whereas dianna makes videos that can attract a much wider audience
      also dianna has been doing this for awhile now .... I think with time this channel will get the attention it deserves too

    • @pablostraub
      @pablostraub 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I like both channels, but they have different styles and audiences. Saying one is better than the other only makes sense depending on your goals, style, etc.

  • @c1dv1c1ous
    @c1dv1c1ous 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love these videos. Thank you for your work.

  • @a.duncan6791
    @a.duncan6791 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Don't forget the children.
    You have such an engaging, non-threatening manner of imparting information, I believe children just starting school could benefit from your insights if presented using the Socratic method. For instance: Good morning children. Today's question involves light. Have any of you been camping at night? Did your parents make a campfire? Did it make the area warm? Could you see better with the light from the campfire? Did you stay warm if you went away from the campfire? Did you still have light to see by? Could we say our sun, that which gives us light during days when night ends, is like a giant campfire? And so on...
    Great teachers are humanity's greatest, underutilized resource. Thanks for all you do...

  • @JimmyFigueroa
    @JimmyFigueroa 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I would do anything for a date with her 😍

    • @ilyassiddiqui700
      @ilyassiddiqui700 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Stupid!

    • @Elephantstonica
      @Elephantstonica 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Easy. The right amount of money ought to do it. Depends how vulgar you are on the outside. As much as on the inside?
      If so, then it would undoubtedly take a great deal. 😍

    • @JimmyFigueroa
      @JimmyFigueroa 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      godscop999 of course it would! But I would treat her with respect haha. Nothing vulgar.

    • @JimmyFigueroa
      @JimmyFigueroa 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      ilyaas siddiqui lol don’t get all worked buddy. Clearly I’m joking.

  • @moleculeman4653
    @moleculeman4653 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is the first time I've seen an "Up and Atom" video. Jade is most brilliant and very lovely!

  • @esperancaemisterio
    @esperancaemisterio 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow Jade! This video was amazing!!!! I'm very impressed! I've learned many new things! And I'm amazed by your effort, going to a research lab to shoot your video, interviewing great professionals... and your camera work is professional!!!! Thanks a lot for teaching me so many awesome things! =))))

  • @eavids128
    @eavids128 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very cool, I love this video format!

  • @steveaspen6773
    @steveaspen6773 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    WoW!, I could spend all day listening to you in these videos. Thank you for your way of explaining , clearly is easy to understand and learn from.

  • @yuboka49
    @yuboka49 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Because of the low density and low nucleus to electron colissions, an electron is able to get double excited before relaxing and emiting a foton.

  • @shubhamagarwal480
    @shubhamagarwal480 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your way of explaining is so exciting.i just loved the riddle😘😘. Thankyou for making the videos😊😊

  • @SytRReD
    @SytRReD 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love this video ! You did a greater job than ever here ! You're totally making epic content, thank you very much ;* I'm glad I've been following you for a few years !

    • @upandatom
      @upandatom  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you so much :)

  • @LapSiLap
    @LapSiLap 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I only listen to physics videos on TH-cam when I sleep but your animations are so funny and good I have to watch 😓

  • @Skibbityboo0580
    @Skibbityboo0580 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love this channel. You would make an excellent museum tour guide, you just explain things so well!

    • @upandatom
      @upandatom  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you Christopher!

    • @BaliwTaKa
      @BaliwTaKa 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      "Museum tour guide," is that an insult? It is true that "Up and Atom" explains things so well, but I think she is beyond the title of a museum tour guide. I could be wrong. Maybe that is all "Up an Atom' is--an excellent museum tour guide.

    • @Skibbityboo0580
      @Skibbityboo0580 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BaliwTaKa I didnt mean it that way at all!

    • @BaliwTaKa
      @BaliwTaKa 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Skibbityboo0580, I didn't think you were trying to insult 'Up and Atom'. I do think you meant it as a complement.
      Short story:
      I went to college for art, and on my graduation day, my mom brought me a children's book about art careers that highlighted such things as being a tour guide in a museum.
      After 6 years of college, 4 years working on the art major while I was also working in industry with scientists as an illustrator and product designer, I was also doing years of college for computer programming, math and physics. Then my mom shows up for my graduation and gives me a children's book about careers in art that highlighted all the career possibilities that were minimum wage in an art museum, emphasizing being a tour guide...
      The end of short story.
      I didn't really think you were trying to insult her, I think you were complementing her on her ability to demonstrate and communicate these complex ideas. (y) :)

  • @Erik_001
    @Erik_001 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! It was fun and interesting and informative. Thank you so much!

  • @craigbutcher9872
    @craigbutcher9872 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very well done, but I couldn’t help thinking, watching her dynamic presentations, that here we are seeing what in physics we call hand waving arguments.

  • @metametodo
    @metametodo 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video format, a scientific mind has to explore, theorize and test often to keep sharp. This is one of the main problems of learning through youtube, you're ready to repeat someone else, but you don't test things for yourself, and not necessarily you trained what was necessary to figure something out by yourself.
    Thank you a lot, really, really.

  • @tristanpatterson3843
    @tristanpatterson3843 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your work, please continue.

  • @mac23806
    @mac23806 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really enjoyed that informational and very entertaining video and descriptions of things I didn't know. 10/5 ⭐

  • @johncourt9580
    @johncourt9580 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Jade, I've learned so much from your videos, and i did solve that riddle, given the clues, and i now know how these beautiful coloured images from our universe are obtained.

  • @phdtobe
    @phdtobe 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Finally! A young scientist/science reporter on TH-cam who knows how to properly pronounce the last syllable of “nebulae”!

  • @devkisyou
    @devkisyou 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So very well explained. I am going to share it with my kids and am sure they will be intrigued. Thank you 😀

  • @Hexnilium
    @Hexnilium 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very well made video. You're an excellent communicator!

  • @johngreen9699
    @johngreen9699 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just love it when, at about 6:25, you mark the space between the "signature energy states" of orbitals with a symbol resembling the capital letter H...and, of course, the lower case h is Planck's Constant, you sneaky girl... BTW, you have the BEST videos on TH-cam, bar none...or should I say h-bar none?

  • @bicycleninja1685
    @bicycleninja1685 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the animation! The explanations are easy to understand.

  • @Rembie
    @Rembie 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So the thing that comes out of this video is that it wasn’t Bowen who discovered this ,
    It was Russell Dugan,
    It’s a shame Dugan doesn’t get the recognition that he deserves , for solving the problem , instead of other people thinking his thoughts after him , I could be wrong but it sounds like Dugan the brains here

  • @bobpratt5625
    @bobpratt5625 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I dont learn much cos I just like watching. Your a really good presenter. And I downright just like you and I usually put science first but in your case in a good way I'd fail your class but show up every day.

  • @robm1392
    @robm1392 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Jade, love your great videos - many thanks! In the future, along the same lines (geddit?) It might be an idea for you to explore how big is a hydrogen atom?

  • @anton4488
    @anton4488 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing video! Very well explained!

  • @anshuman_eek
    @anshuman_eek 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please include more of these puzzles in your videos. This video was awesome by the way(as usual).

  • @screaminlordbyron7767
    @screaminlordbyron7767 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nailed it without pausing. Well guessed it was to do with the density anyway. Not the full mechanics of it.
    Thanks Jade very interesting!

  • @IHasTube
    @IHasTube 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    12:05, Sounds like the particles in space are in a high energy metastable state but as they travel through the atmosphere, they move down to a lower state after colliding with many of the atoms preventing them from emitting a photon

  • @chb46
    @chb46 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great vid ! Very interesting and very well explained 👍😃

  • @Qexilber
    @Qexilber 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    At 12:02 right now. My take: it is such a line coming from a jump from a metastable to stable state. On earth this spectral line doesn't show up enough (to have been recognised yet at that time) because the vast amount of collisions here dampens it. In the nebulae those don't happen by far as often and therefor the line DOES show up brightly. Almost like the Astronomy book-author had guessed: some process that is disturbed here on earth and can only take place in a nebula with its low density and lack of disturbance.

  • @Ireniicus
    @Ireniicus 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video deserves a lot more views. Well done

  • @paulurban2
    @paulurban2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fascinating, I learned something.

  • @Maccbruce
    @Maccbruce 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent description of an Eureka moment. You do good work, Jade.
    At the end, Dr. Christian Sasse mentions the pictures. I hope you will make a follow-up video of the pictures produced by forbidden lines. How does the same formation look normally and with the different forbidden lines. Dazzle us with pretty pictures and talk science underneath.
    Peace.

  • @SeniorSupreme
    @SeniorSupreme 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I learned I’m not very good with complex questions. I got close-ish(not at all). I really like the video style. So many science videos just toss out facts and not so much questions that make you think. Keeps these up please.

  • @williamsjm100
    @williamsjm100 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, I can cheat as I have a lot of experience spectroscopy and emission lines. Now my son who is seven watched it said that "we don't see all of the state emissions on the earth as the bits of air are always bumping", I think that is good enough for a pass!!

  • @Veklim
    @Veklim 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well that was interesting....I managed to 'figure it out' whilst you were still going through the first clue since I knew about the basic mechanics of metastable states, but I wonder now if I already knew this story (and/or the phenomenon itself) and it was merely lurking deep within my subconscious mind, waiting for the perfect moment to pounce and make me feel (for a tiny little while) like some sort of genius. Regardless, the video was, as always, wonderfully effective at condensing and translating complex information into layman's terms. You have a rare gift for such, and it is great to see you use it.

  • @zakurie93
    @zakurie93 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm learning so much your videos are great

  • @GlynWilliams1950
    @GlynWilliams1950 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very informative, I thought extra collisions from electrons in Earth atmosphere too.
    I had heard the term "forbidden lines" from a long time ago, maybe high school lol.
    I hadn't seen the term used lately.
    I am making a spectroscope.
    Just basic unit from a DVD and also researching it.
    I am also researching if I can calculate the spectral lines from the elements too, but that is very advanced for me.

  • @ZMacZ
    @ZMacZ ปีที่แล้ว

    5:16 The lines can fan out decreasing and increasing in frequency when passing
    by gravity sources, of which the nebula itself can be one.
    When the lines fan or blur, you get a different picture.
    When there's more than one element involved, you get mutiple lines,
    all blurred.
    Unlike stars where the gravity is mostly point, the star in question,
    most photons that reach us have been traveling at the nearest
    possible paralel path. This is unlike a nebula.
    The nebula has emissions that can be reflections of a nearby star,
    and as nebula cover much more surface the gravitic influence is
    not from a point, and not from the center of emission.
    This then allows nebulas to blur their emission spectral lines,
    while stars do this at fractions of this blurring.
    And this is but two possibilities that can explain such blurring.

  • @wolfisr
    @wolfisr 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great lesson in spectroscopy!
    Cheers

  • @helpmechangetheworld
    @helpmechangetheworld 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interesting. Thank you!

  • @DigiLuigi
    @DigiLuigi 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wild guess: The electrons can emit photons to go from meta-stable to stable states. Since Earth's atmosphere is so dense, collisions always happen before this occurs, which makes it a secret spectral line of an already known element. One we simply cannot replicate under normal atmospheric conditions.

  • @user-pf4px2cn9e
    @user-pf4px2cn9e 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You said it....awesome video. Thank you.

  • @cowboyyoga
    @cowboyyoga 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video ))) Thank you!