Emilie is a character with so much potential and its not just from kinich. Natlan being the nation of pyro focuses a lot on the pyro reaction. Vape or melt can even be used with the burning reaction, and the pyro archon will probably make emilie even better. Emilie in general is very future proof but her state right now is kind of lacking. Im pulling either way she looks great
Yea I agree. She looks very promising and she has her own artifact set tailor made for her. I guess her only problem is her lack of F2P options due to how absurd the difference between her signature and fav lance is. Even then, I still think she had a bright future that started out rough like baizhu.
Persinally i think bennet will still be a fine teammate. Kinich can weave in and out of Bennetts circle, and since bennets buff lingers for about 2s after leaving the circle, it shouldnt be tht bad.
Kinich radius is smaller than bennet. So against a single enemy he will be inside unless he is knocked out. Against multiple enemjes it can still work but im not sure to what extent. He might hit enemies that he is not attached to and get pushed outside. He mught attach to an enemy bennet didnt use his ult on meaning he wont be centered and hence he will lose yptime. Another ive seen but not sure of is his movement. He can move left and right repeatedly meaning you can maintain yourself inside. For the first one ive seen gameplay of it but the other too im not sure
I hope so... though IMHO she's not going to have such a fast ICD as Xingling, nor the HP sink Dehya is, nor the high atk buff or healing of Bennett. But... she's likely to have additional buffs, probably to team synergy and reactions. Hopefully she'll be an excellent Thoma replacement as well.
As much as I like Furina I’m not sure if she will be the best option for Kinich. Don’t get me wrong Furinas buff is amazing but her hydro application is honestly quite slow compared to someone like Xinqiu or Yelan. For a strictly burgeon team it’s better to have a fast hydro applier and a slow pyro applier such as thoma.
@@carrotking5377Normal attacking while in skill are still considered normal attacks while dealing skill damage. Like Raiden and her doing Elemental Burst damage normal attacks
@@miniko_artsy but like, even if you cant do burgeon with furina slow application, burning still occurs if theres no hydro, right? so it stills triggers kinich thing. what do u think?
@@tomk4673 ah Furina can use in Burgeon (That team more burning oriented with slightly bonus DMG from burgeon. Based in my experience on Emilie the slow hydro application isn't problem but how you maintain the Burning) + Kinich benefits more in Burning and Burgeon why not both these reaction co-exist (2 reaction = Faster Night soul)
They’re nerfing Mualani so hard rn, Neuvillette is fine. And like someone else said, Bennett is Bennett. I see her working with Bennett more than dethroning him
Spoken like a true feminist who has forgotten that when: Ganyu came out she was best dps. Then hu tao was best dps. Then ayaka. Then raiden kinda of. Then nilou. Then hoyo was like actually let's make strong male dps for once Then lyney neuv came out.
@@putent9623 It's almost like people don't remember majority of the cast or something. We got Xiao, Itto, Ayato, Cyno, and Wanderer, who all as far as I remember majority of the community considers them mid for one reason or another. Althaitham gets released and suddenly there is a male dominance people keep imagining, and then they keep the trend going with Lyney and Neuvillette, big deal. To add to your female list you left out Navia and now Arlecchino, Clorinde is also considered better than Cyno. Even in Alhaitham's case it can be better if you just on field nahida instead, who is meant to be off field. So where are all these dominating male dpses. This has always been such a ridiculous argument.
I think he will still be pretty strong without Emily, that being said if I remember correctly Emily gives like 80% burning RES which is massively important as unlike bloom teams in burning you take significant more dmg, without Emily I’d highly suggest running a strong healer such as Yaoyao, kokomi etc
Dps wise he is not. Mualni without her signature is the dps ceiling from calcs ive seen (like jsterns). But that's optimal I guess. But regardless if you gave mualani a 4star weapon and hu tao or arlechinno or lyeny or navia or neuvillette, or clorinde and wriothesley (hell throw in xiao and wanderer) a 5star weapon, mualani will out dps them as of now. Which is crazy. But before she used to out dps them by a disgusting amount now its more reasonable.
we dont know how his kit truly works yet but he wants burn/burgeon so alhaitam has better party options that kinich. also since how busted aggrevate/hyperbloom works alhaitam is still a good character overall
They're not the same. From calcs they are around the same dps in their best teams only that kinich does the majority of his dps meaning his teams want more investment and have more vertical while alhaitham doesn't need the same investment.
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Emilie is a character with so much potential and its not just from kinich. Natlan being the nation of pyro focuses a lot on the pyro reaction. Vape or melt can even be used with the burning reaction, and the pyro archon will probably make emilie even better. Emilie in general is very future proof but her state right now is kind of lacking. Im pulling either way she looks great
Yea I agree. She looks very promising and she has her own artifact set tailor made for her. I guess her only problem is her lack of F2P options due to how absurd the difference between her signature and fav lance is. Even then, I still think she had a bright future that started out rough like baizhu.
Persinally i think bennet will still be a fine teammate. Kinich can weave in and out of Bennetts circle, and since bennets buff lingers for about 2s after leaving the circle, it shouldnt be tht bad.
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Kinich radius is smaller than bennet. So against a single enemy he will be inside unless he is knocked out.
Against multiple enemjes it can still work but im not sure to what extent. He might hit enemies that he is not attached to and get pushed outside. He mught attach to an enemy bennet didnt use his ult on meaning he wont be centered and hence he will lose yptime.
Another ive seen but not sure of is his movement. He can move left and right repeatedly meaning you can maintain yourself inside.
For the first one ive seen gameplay of it but the other too im not sure
He has interruption resistance while circling the enemy so he won’t be getting knocked around easily maybe unless it’s an elite enemy or boss.
With the nightsoul thingy. There's no point in wishing for DPS from older patches anymore. Ofc except for the GOD Neuvillette.
Whys that its basically just an enhanced, state ofc theres a broken artifact set but Marachuse set is basically equal to it
Imagine Bennett, Xiangling and Dehya all on the pyro archon.
I hope so... though IMHO she's not going to have such a fast ICD as Xingling, nor the HP sink Dehya is, nor the high atk buff or healing of Bennett.
But... she's likely to have additional buffs, probably to team synergy and reactions.
Hopefully she'll be an excellent Thoma replacement as well.
I’m so torn between c1 and r1, because the sig is clearly better but the c1 gives exploration QoL… AAAA
As much as I like Furina I’m not sure if she will be the best option for Kinich. Don’t get me wrong Furinas buff is amazing but her hydro application is honestly quite slow compared to someone like Xinqiu or Yelan. For a strictly burgeon team it’s better to have a fast hydro applier and a slow pyro applier such as thoma.
Don’t forget that Xinqiu and Yelan will require na’s, but Kinich will only do those every few seconds
@@carrotking5377 what ru talkin about? Like 80% of Kinich's gameplay is NA
@@carrotking5377Normal attacking while in skill are still considered normal attacks while dealing skill damage. Like Raiden and her doing Elemental Burst damage normal attacks
@@miniko_artsy but like, even if you cant do burgeon with furina slow application, burning still occurs if theres no hydro, right? so it stills triggers kinich thing. what do u think?
@@tomk4673 ah Furina can use in Burgeon (That team more burning oriented with slightly bonus DMG from burgeon. Based in my experience on Emilie the slow hydro application isn't problem but how you maintain the Burning) + Kinich benefits more in Burning and Burgeon why not both these reaction co-exist (2 reaction = Faster Night soul)
I'm tempted to pull him for theater
Hoyo is trying to dethrone every single character including my boy Bennett and neuvilette and I'm not having it
Tbf bennett has gone untouched for 3 years
neuvillette is just flat out broken, probably one of if not THE most busted character they've ever released, bennett is bennett
They’re nerfing Mualani so hard rn, Neuvillette is fine.
And like someone else said, Bennett is Bennett. I see her working with Bennett more than dethroning him
Bennett is the true pyro archon, and no on can change my mind!! He will always be on top
His major issue being a single target
I decided to pull on Furina constellations. So unfortunately Emilie+Kinich team is not possible anymore :-(
genshin devs can't digest female character outshining male character just wait for the nerf hammer.
Spoken like a true feminist who has forgotten that when:
Ganyu came out she was best dps.
Then hu tao was best dps.
Then ayaka.
Then raiden kinda of.
Then nilou.
Then hoyo was like actually let's make strong male dps for once Then lyney neuv came out.
@@putent9623 It's almost like people don't remember majority of the cast or something. We got Xiao, Itto, Ayato, Cyno, and Wanderer, who all as far as I remember majority of the community considers them mid for one reason or another. Althaitham gets released and suddenly there is a male dominance people keep imagining, and then they keep the trend going with Lyney and Neuvillette, big deal.
To add to your female list you left out Navia and now Arlecchino, Clorinde is also considered better than Cyno. Even in Alhaitham's case it can be better if you just on field nahida instead, who is meant to be off field. So where are all these dominating male dpses. This has always been such a ridiculous argument.
What if i don't want Emily is he bad without her ?
I think he will still be pretty strong without Emily, that being said if I remember correctly Emily gives like 80% burning RES which is massively important as unlike bloom teams in burning you take significant more dmg, without Emily I’d highly suggest running a strong healer such as Yaoyao, kokomi etc
@@miniko_artsyhe is ranged, so he doesn't touch the burning enemy u like melee characters???
no his best team is furina xiangling bennett
ı think kinich is better than mualani right now
Dps wise he is not.
Mualni without her signature is the dps ceiling from calcs ive seen (like jsterns). But that's optimal I guess.
But regardless if you gave mualani a 4star weapon and hu tao or arlechinno or lyeny or navia or neuvillette, or clorinde and wriothesley (hell throw in xiao and wanderer) a 5star weapon, mualani will out dps them as of now. Which is crazy. But before she used to out dps them by a disgusting amount now its more reasonable.
I thought he could work with bloom and was curious if he could be a nilou on fielder. Can you trigger xingqui rain swords during his skill?
His loop shot is modified normals so yes, but his passive needs a pyro demdro type reaction.
Is kinich’s elemental skill affected by atttack speed? Like wanderer
@@asetispaghetti9766 The Loop Shots most likely are, but the Scalespiker Cannon most likely not
Do you think he's gonna powercreep Alhaitham?
we dont know how his kit truly works yet but he wants burn/burgeon so alhaitam has better party options that kinich. also since how busted aggrevate/hyperbloom works alhaitam is still a good character overall
They're not the same.
From calcs they are around the same dps in their best teams only that kinich does the majority of his dps meaning his teams want more investment and have more vertical while alhaitham doesn't need the same investment.
Absolutely. Not in 5.0 obviously, but keep in mind dps usually get a big boost from the archon of their region
I want to have Kinich, but I'm not interested in Emilie. What happens?
you're losing his premium team 😅 even mualani benefits from emelie
You lose a lot of Benefits from Emilie like Burning resistance and ability to attack with AOE. Kinich don't have aoe but instead more single target
you're fine his best team doesn't even use her its furina xiangling bennett
Mualani is getting nerfed even more :|
Save Emilie? From what? ahah
c1 or weapon?
c1, his weapon is kinda mid since he gets 40% cr from his artifact set and the weapon gives cr
C1 For now, but seeing the pattern I feel the weapon will be better when you get the Pyro Archon.
Weapon gives like 60% dmg bonus, highest base atk, 11% Crit rate, C1 gives you like i think it was either 70 or 90 crit dmg
@nomnomkirby the weapon gives 11% cr blud 💀