Fell in love with the spear on my berserker and was worried I was probably using a less than ideal build by keeping it after the nerf, but glad to see it's still viable. I'm slowly shifting off my warrior, but still love it.
timestamps for reference 1:42 - power berserker 3:18 - power spellbreaker 5:35 - power bladesworn 8:40 - condition berserker 11:01 - quickness power berserker 12:18 - alacrity power bladesworn 13:05 - the heal builds overview
Warrior needs huge QoL overhaul and changes. Class is good on unmoving non-phase bosses, but in actual combat it’s painful sometimes. It’s insane how they basically deny warr any QoL, while Thief received like a billion accessibility improvements in 2 years, which indicates that they are capable of making those changes, they just chose not to.
One of the reason why Warrior doesn’t get improvements as I understand it is because it OVERperforms in PvP with the folks who really know how to overtune it. I can see that when I, as a nearly useless player in PvP, took a core Warrior CC build in and was a menace to anyone who wanted to remain standing. ANet doesn’t want to make any open world class wildly different from their PvP/WvW modes. Is it understandable? Yes, as the only differences are tweaks to some of the values. Does it suck? Absolutely, as Warrior really is my favorite class and was the first class I could consistently keep alive before I really learned how to play
While this video focuses exclusively on meta builds for group content, my favorite open world build for the past few months has been staff Berserker with spear once that became available as my ranged option. Staff is great as a weapon as I tend to get lost in face-tanking whatever I’m fighting and while it may not be the best for DPS, it will keep me alive long enough to pretty reliably finish the fight against harder enemies without going into down state. While this may not be a big deal to most of you, it’s made a huge difference in being able to play my favorite class as I’m both an older player and have disabilities which prevent me from being a better player. I have trouble remembering rotations and my reaction time isn’t great, so having a way to compensate is great
Silhouette casually dodging Samarog shockwaves with [Flicker Step] "Nono really, but I'm just here to cosplay." - I love it. ❤️ Real talk tho: Biggest problem with PvX Warrior is ANet has 0 idea what they want it to do in any game mode, or how they want it to do it. And with the design goals of the game changing approx ~every 8 seconds (i.e. "No CCs can't also do damage anymore in competitive, Now we need every class to technically be able to provide quickness/alacrity for reasons, No wait! NOW We're gonna give every elite spec weapon to every core class. Isn't that great guys??") Warrior has been easily, *easily,* the most shafted by these milestones, without ever being compensated at all, while all of the other classes shot ahead by leaps & bounds. These were all good, objectively healthy-ish (except for the shared weapon thing,) changes for the game overall. But they all left one, very brown class alone, crying by itself in the dirt. Warrior will forever be the trashcan that I love, but my word it sucks right now. 😂
With all due respect, I feel that these builds are just DPS showcase builds for fighting pinata... or when you have a lot of friends to support you. If you are a relatively new player who just bought HoT and PoF bundles, a solo casual player who plays alone, you be eaten alive running these builds... Biggest issue I have with these builds is you dont have stability and will get knocked around like a ragged doll. Maybe there are other source of stability that I do not see, pray tell. I really like to see real builds that does not showcase pinata damage but actual combat where you solo hero points, elite bosses, etc. 30k 40k dps... if you die before the enemy, your actual dps is 0 + lost of silver to teleport.
Saying the bladesworn has no CC is just wrong, but it is also poorly documented. The dragon slash does an incredible amount of CC (5k defiance damage, 500 per bullet). For reference the mesmer moa signet does 6k without sigil. So every few seconds you have a CC button that is up there with some of the best CC abilities in the game. Artillery Slash also has undocumented CC, at 3 charges will deal 2k defiance damage, and axe 3 also has a small amount of CC. And yes I am a bladesworn on copium 😂I do agree with a lot of criticisms about bladesworn, but lack of CC is not one of them imo Edit: this is for the Power DPS with Unyielding Dragon, this is what gives the CC, since it applies 5 seconds of stun at full charge which is 500 breakbar damage in in game numbers. Numbers above are from arcdps Defiance Damage window.
Good to know, especially if you’re up against something like Chak Gerent where you *don’t* want to CC for a good part of the fight to avoid spawning the poison clouds. I know there aren’t many, but some fights come with the instruction to hold CC at certain points
Im running dagger set both hand with full assasin gear to reach the 100% critical chance along with sigil of life and accuracy, life stealing on hit is my way to go in open world, for the other set i used GS for movement skill combined with the stability trait from strength, in pof map, currently doing 3k damage per normal hit on crit, is this good enough? I cant figure a way to increase warrior toughness without sacrificing power or crit chance, is 100% crit chance really worth it or you just need 75% crit chance?
started building my first warrior, aiming to go for power alac bladesworn a week or two ago. was not prepared for the slander, but good thing I am a glutton for punishment when it comes to learning convoluted rotations...
There are some fairly simple rotations, the main thing against it is balancing the patience to build up your Dragontrigger and the need to take down the thing trying to maul you as quickly as possible
The PvE side, results side, of warrior has always been serviceable. It's the how you get there that hurts. Bladesworn used to have 3 unique play styles, each with their own paths of decision making until all the grandmaster traits got turned into Immortal Dragon. The lamest and least decision heavy of the three. I feel your gunsaber pain too. Seems no one else understands just how unreliable, or annoying, gunsaber is to use. Skill 2 is a dps loss over the auto chain in PvP , because no one will stand still. Skill 3 can be avoided by rushing into the bladesworn casting it to freak out 3s awful tracking. 5 you have to constantly untarget and retarget to get the interaction you want. Hope your day is well Sil :) Lord Bless
I channeled my inner Janet and skipped the Bladesworn sections of this video. Jokes aside, I'm in the process of getting a warrior leveled for some Spellbreaker action
Tbh, i really enjoyed qheal beserker. It works perfectly but yeah, it needs some tweaks. The only thing i truly hate is Bladesworn, what a dumpster class
So far, I have found Spell Breaker Dagger/Axe-Spear the most fun. I run Marauder Armor stats with like 3 soldier trinkets(including amulet) and 1 assassin(extra freebie from maps). I only have about 80% crit(Fury buff) w/ 195% crit dmg. As I personally struggle with survival(casual player) and found surviving while dealing okay damage to be better for me personally.
Wow, support warrior is in serious need of help huh? Last couple of times I got a quickness berserker in my fractal groups, quickness uptime was pretty low, hearing more about it from an average player's perspective makes me think that anet really needs to spice these builds up. Hope one day they give it that catalyst treatment that completely changed the quickness build into an actually enjoyable experience.
Soellbreaker healerwith staff and hammer. Run zealots and run the healing food and sigs/amulets. Skills run 3 shouts with charge and banner ( i belive) its dis and tacts for traitlines.....come on man
@@SilhouetteGaming1 Might be true relative to other specs in PvE. They seem fine in WvW. And they also seem fine for casual PvE, though CMs show the difference.
Warrior can only bring dps to the table, basically zero cc, no stability, zero nothing ever. It's one of the most underwhelming pve experiences out there. Literally every other class has something to bring to help the group. Hell even untamed can share group stability. It's like playing a caveman with a huge wooden stick. A DPS zerker can't even heal on demand.
@@siqsa9607 no you don't need to get good. It just sucks compared to everything else. CC is trash because you need to bring hammer to do any meaningful cc and then if you save your skills for CC your DPS goes down to shits.
@@blastmanutz7798 Hammer does a very fair amount of damage in open world and fractals. In CM raids and strikes you can do fine with axes alone, meaning you can use maces for CC. Warrior isn't the best but it is very far from sucking.
Fell in love with the spear on my berserker and was worried I was probably using a less than ideal build by keeping it after the nerf, but glad to see it's still viable. I'm slowly shifting off my warrior, but still love it.
timestamps for reference
1:42 - power berserker
3:18 - power spellbreaker
5:35 - power bladesworn
8:40 - condition berserker
11:01 - quickness power berserker
12:18 - alacrity power bladesworn
13:05 - the heal builds overview
let's gooooo all viable class guides are done! thanks a lot for making my days up until now! Will be around for more
Still got ele my friend. Saved the best for last
@SilhouetteGaming1 LET ME COMMIT TO THE JOKE DAMMIT!
(really looking forward to it though even if these builds are the only ones i know how to play)
@@SilhouetteGaming1 Ele, as in Electrician? Didn't you cover engineer already?
@Mister5597 ele as in elementalist. The harry potter class :)
Warrior needs huge QoL overhaul and changes. Class is good on unmoving non-phase bosses, but in actual combat it’s painful sometimes. It’s insane how they basically deny warr any QoL, while Thief received like a billion accessibility improvements in 2 years, which indicates that they are capable of making those changes, they just chose not to.
One of the reason why Warrior doesn’t get improvements as I understand it is because it OVERperforms in PvP with the folks who really know how to overtune it. I can see that when I, as a nearly useless player in PvP, took a core Warrior CC build in and was a menace to anyone who wanted to remain standing. ANet doesn’t want to make any open world class wildly different from their PvP/WvW modes. Is it understandable? Yes, as the only differences are tweaks to some of the values. Does it suck? Absolutely, as Warrior really is my favorite class and was the first class I could consistently keep alive before I really learned how to play
While this video focuses exclusively on meta builds for group content, my favorite open world build for the past few months has been staff Berserker with spear once that became available as my ranged option. Staff is great as a weapon as I tend to get lost in face-tanking whatever I’m fighting and while it may not be the best for DPS, it will keep me alive long enough to pretty reliably finish the fight against harder enemies without going into down state.
While this may not be a big deal to most of you, it’s made a huge difference in being able to play my favorite class as I’m both an older player and have disabilities which prevent me from being a better player. I have trouble remembering rotations and my reaction time isn’t great, so having a way to compensate is great
Fuck the meta, warrior is fun.
@@chibi_undercover9663 i agree.
Silhouette casually dodging Samarog shockwaves with [Flicker Step] "Nono really, but I'm just here to cosplay." - I love it. ❤️
Real talk tho: Biggest problem with PvX Warrior is ANet has 0 idea what they want it to do in any game mode, or how they want it to do it. And with the design goals of the game changing approx ~every 8 seconds (i.e. "No CCs can't also do damage anymore in competitive, Now we need every class to technically be able to provide quickness/alacrity for reasons, No wait! NOW We're gonna give every elite spec weapon to every core class. Isn't that great guys??") Warrior has been easily, *easily,* the most shafted by these milestones, without ever being compensated at all, while all of the other classes shot ahead by leaps & bounds. These were all good, objectively healthy-ish (except for the shared weapon thing,) changes for the game overall. But they all left one, very brown class alone, crying by itself in the dirt. Warrior will forever be the trashcan that I love, but my word it sucks right now. 😂
With all due respect, I feel that these builds are just DPS showcase builds for fighting pinata... or when you have a lot of friends to support you.
If you are a relatively new player who just bought HoT and PoF bundles, a solo casual player who plays alone, you be eaten alive running these builds... Biggest issue I have with these builds is you dont have stability and will get knocked around like a ragged doll. Maybe there are other source of stability that I do not see, pray tell.
I really like to see real builds that does not showcase pinata damage but actual combat where you solo hero points, elite bosses, etc. 30k 40k dps... if you die before the enemy, your actual dps is 0 + lost of silver to teleport.
Saying the bladesworn has no CC is just wrong, but it is also poorly documented. The dragon slash does an incredible amount of CC (5k defiance damage, 500 per bullet). For reference the mesmer moa signet does 6k without sigil. So every few seconds you have a CC button that is up there with some of the best CC abilities in the game. Artillery Slash also has undocumented CC, at 3 charges will deal 2k defiance damage, and axe 3 also has a small amount of CC.
And yes I am a bladesworn on copium 😂I do agree with a lot of criticisms about bladesworn, but lack of CC is not one of them imo
Edit: this is for the Power DPS with Unyielding Dragon, this is what gives the CC, since it applies 5 seconds of stun at full charge which is 500 breakbar damage in in game numbers. Numbers above are from arcdps Defiance Damage window.
Good to know, especially if you’re up against something like Chak Gerent where you *don’t* want to CC for a good part of the fight to avoid spawning the poison clouds. I know there aren’t many, but some fights come with the instruction to hold CC at certain points
Im running dagger set both hand with full assasin gear to reach the 100% critical chance along with sigil of life and accuracy, life stealing on hit is my way to go in open world, for the other set i used GS for movement skill combined with the stability trait from strength, in pof map, currently doing 3k damage per normal hit on crit, is this good enough? I cant figure a way to increase warrior toughness without sacrificing power or crit chance, is 100% crit chance really worth it or you just need 75% crit chance?
Warrior jank is only for the truly punished. Great video lol
started building my first warrior, aiming to go for power alac bladesworn a week or two ago. was not prepared for the slander, but good thing I am a glutton for punishment when it comes to learning convoluted rotations...
There are some fairly simple rotations, the main thing against it is balancing the patience to build up your Dragontrigger and the need to take down the thing trying to maul you as quickly as possible
I am trying to understand how is the mace offhand better than the axe on the spellbreaker when it comes to dps
The PvE side, results side, of warrior has always been serviceable. It's the how you get there that hurts. Bladesworn used to have 3 unique play styles, each with their own paths of decision making until all the grandmaster traits got turned into Immortal Dragon. The lamest and least decision heavy of the three. I feel your gunsaber pain too. Seems no one else understands just how unreliable, or annoying, gunsaber is to use. Skill 2 is a dps loss over the auto chain in PvP , because no one will stand still. Skill 3 can be avoided by rushing into the bladesworn casting it to freak out 3s awful tracking. 5 you have to constantly untarget and retarget to get the interaction you want.
Hope your day is well Sil :) Lord Bless
I channeled my inner Janet and skipped the Bladesworn sections of this video. Jokes aside, I'm in the process of getting a warrior leveled for some Spellbreaker action
Tbh, i really enjoyed qheal beserker. It works perfectly but yeah, it needs some tweaks. The only thing i truly hate is Bladesworn, what a dumpster class
So far, I have found Spell Breaker Dagger/Axe-Spear the most fun.
I run Marauder Armor stats with like 3 soldier trinkets(including amulet) and 1 assassin(extra freebie from maps). I only have about 80% crit(Fury buff) w/ 195% crit dmg. As I personally struggle with survival(casual player) and found surviving while dealing okay damage to be better for me personally.
@jacobruiter592 consider using Zakaros Relic if you haven't already, might free you up for more dps gear while still having high survivability.
@SilhouetteGaming1 thanks, I will look it up. I have taken a long hiatus from the game due to life changes(last played PoF).
War healer is viable.. when everything hits just right. you might privide half the support the 2nd worst build will.
Wow, support warrior is in serious need of help huh?
Last couple of times I got a quickness berserker in my fractal groups, quickness uptime was pretty low, hearing more about it from an average player's perspective makes me think that anet really needs to spice these builds up.
Hope one day they give it that catalyst treatment that completely changed the quickness build into an actually enjoyable experience.
Soellbreaker healerwith staff and hammer. Run zealots and run the healing food and sigs/amulets. Skills run 3 shouts with charge and banner ( i belive) its dis and tacts for traitlines.....come on man
i still cant choose a main, i dont know what classes are fun anymore ;-; feels bad
Oh man I feel the same, I just don't stop jumping in between classes
Coming from thief it's so strange to hear people say warrior is bad.
Warrior and thief are both Pretty bad tbh lol
@@SilhouetteGaming1 Might be true relative to other specs in PvE. They seem fine in WvW. And they also seem fine for casual PvE, though CMs show the difference.
Warrior can only bring dps to the table, basically zero cc, no stability, zero nothing ever. It's one of the most underwhelming pve experiences out there. Literally every other class has something to bring to help the group. Hell even untamed can share group stability. It's like playing a caveman with a huge wooden stick. A DPS zerker can't even heal on demand.
What you talkin about no cc
Zero CC? Warrior is the absolute king of CC. If you need heal on demand as Berserker you need to get good.
@@siqsa9607 no you don't need to get good. It just sucks compared to everything else.
CC is trash because you need to bring hammer to do any meaningful cc and then if you save your skills for CC your DPS goes down to shits.
@@MuffinTastey you really gonna count headbutt as a cc or having hammer for cc the thing? Because both are a dps loss unless you bring spellbreaker.
@@blastmanutz7798 Hammer does a very fair amount of damage in open world and fractals. In CM raids and strikes you can do fine with axes alone, meaning you can use maces for CC. Warrior isn't the best but it is very far from sucking.