No one has said anything but I am gonna apologize anyway. We had a weird awful color thing in the intro of this video. Adobe Premiere kind of gets dumb when you swap between computers and it'll change your colors on you. Anyone who fell over at the ghastly sight of those colors... I am sorry.
Love this movie even thow it dosent have much of a stroy its still great. You guys should whacth more old films animated or anime films that you haven't seen from the 80s and 90s they definitely don't make em how they use to. It's also just crazy to see how much better animation was from the 1910s all the way up to the 2000s since most of it was handrawn.
@ARealityStorm I think he was born Latta but he also went under 'Collins' He also voiced 'Wheeljack' in the TV series as well as Darkstorm & Cravex in Visionaries. What a great talent, also appeared in the 80s Roadhouse with Patrick Swayze
As a kid I was more annoyed by Wheeljack's because he was a favorite of mine like Ironhide and Prime but unlike them he got no last minute of glory he just died off screen.
@@jokerz7936 In the original script, Wheeljack was to be a main character and end up, after butting heads, with Arcee. But that script was dropped, along with the Giant Autobot Snake bot!!!
This death of Optimus Prime is why he never stays dead anymore. The severe backlash to his death in this movie forced them to bring Optimus back to life about a year later, and every subsequent death has been very short-term.
@@phantom6 That scene was so lame. But yeah they could not off any characters anymore after that. At least not main cast. I think this is where it comes from that unless there is fatigue towards a character they never off him.
I’m 42, I try to save it as long as I can between watches - afraid it will lose its magic which would break my heart. Can recite the whole movie pretty much
same..i had this on dvd..bought these toys at good will ..they had hot rod and dino bots their...in the 90s i guess kidd from 86 didnt want them anymore so me in the early 90s was alllll over them at good will
So, fun fact; because this was a giant toy commercial (literally), the makers of the movie genuinely thought that killing off Optimus and bringing in Rodimus Prime was a completely fantastic way to introduce the new toy line they had planned. They really didn't expect everyone to hate it so much.
Fun fact the producer and director of the movie both told the executives that killing Optimus Prime in particular was a bad idea but were overridden by the asshat executives who thought they knew better. In the crisis meeting following the release of the movie the asshat executives tried to throw the director under the bus but the director had kept the receipts (copies of memos and communications from the executives overriding him) and threatened to go public.
Things to know about this movie: 1. The soundtrack is amazing. 2. This movie caused thousands of boys to cry in the cinemas. 3. The reaction to Optimus Prime saved Duke's life in the GI Joe movie. 4. Fans have been arguing about who became Cyclonus for 38 years (Skywarp or Bombshell) 5. Everyone blames Hot Rod for the death of Optimus Prime. 6. Stan Bush has stayed a fan favourite and has recorded other Transformers songs over the years. 7. The first 20 minutes of this movie is essentially a bloodbath as they kill off the old toys to promote the new ones. 8. The line from Ultra Magnus "I can't deal with that now" has become a fan insult whenever someone discusses the character. 9. There are actually 5 Dinobots, even though only 4 are seen in the movie. The 5th one only appears in two shots in a blink and you miss them sequence. 10. The Autobot character Blaster existed before the movie, however, the tapes that came from inside didn't exist until the movie.
1. YES, as iconic as Star Wars music 2. myself included as a 10 year old 3. true 4. Skywarp - Cyclonus, Thundercracker = Scourge, Insecticons = Sweeps 5. not me - i loved Rodimus Prime/Hot Rod 6. true 7. i don't want to talk about the killing 😞 8. LOL 9. because of all the edits this is true 10. didn't he have a cassette probe in one of the episodes (or was that in Season 3 after the movie)?
Snarl (the 5th Dinobot) actually appears in 3 shots, Twice in Dino-mode and once in Robot-mode, The robot-mode shot is the hardest to spot as it's in the moment Hot Rod and Kup are landing the Quintesson ship on Junkion, a quick flash in the window!
11. One of the most stacked casts ever... Leonard Nimoy (Spock, the real Spock) Scattman Crothers (actor/musician) Eric Idle (Monty Python) John Moschitta Jr (fastest talking man alive, guess who he plays, famous for Micro Machine commercials in the 90s) Casey Kasem (DJ/music personality) Judd Nelson (The Breakfast club) Orson freaking Welles (THAT Orson Welles) And of course Robert Stack (Unsolved Mysteries, Airplane!) + All the original voice actors (Peter Cullen, Frank Welker, etc...)
"The Touch" is the most memorable part of the entire movie. Everyone who watched this movie as a kid reacts the same when you mention this movie. They immediately sing, "You got the touch!" Respect the greatest soundtrack song ever. 🙌
I can say now - as a 46 year old man - that watching someone else's reaction to this for the first time brings me joy, and at the same time, multiple eyes tearing up through this watch through
"This is not authentic!" A small piece of my soul died. Michael Bay movies gave Bumble Bee the Fox Deadpool treatment now everyone thinks that's the real "Bee" :(. Great reaction.
@@dangerousdays2052 Honestly, I love the first movie, since it seemed to have even an inkling of effort put into it. It got me to care. But yeah, movies 2-5 are ass. I was so happy when we got the Bumblebee movie, finally a director who gives a shit.
Orson Welles voicing Unicron is legendary. It was his final performance before he died, and his poor health meant he spoke his lines in a bored, hoarse tone. But the kicker? IT WORKED. Unicron sounds like a god would; bored and so calm because nothing bothers him. Unicron is utterly terrifying and so iconic because of Orson's performance.
yep, no one else can come close to how he made Unicron feel like how a god would really act, utterly indifferent with slight amounts of irritation and amusement until the very end when he cannot comprehend him self failing
It was less due to his health and more that he was totally not interested in the source material. However it gave a presence to Unicron that will be hard to surpass.
@@LordElpme The raw audio actually is perfectly serviceable and still has all the gravitas. However Orson wasn't particularly, disdainful despite saying the film was about toys that do horrible violent things to one another. It was a paycheck. But since he was Orson freakin Wells, he still approached it professionally. Hence one last iconic performance, one that would be immortalized by a new generation before he shuffled off this mortal coil.
34:15 Optimus Prime was not a mere “robot” to us. He was like Captain America and the Batmobile all at once. Our beloved hero and a badass vehicle. We didn’t see him as only a robot. 34:18 yeah, that’s fair. He was revived in season 3 of the cartoon. After we cried to our parents and they wrote angry letters at Hasbro for traumatizing their kids, of course.
Sidenote, this was also why they altered GI Joe the Movie, so that Duke doesn't actually die, like they clearly planned, but "fell into a coma" and got better (offscreen). Of course, in this case, they needn't have bothered, as nobody gave a shit about Duke...(Everyone was way more invested in Flint and Lady Jaye!)
@@HandofOmegaright? Ha Ha! Still, I wish they had just stick to their guns with Duke’s death. The film could have at least stood the test of time for having integrity.
Lots of us Gen-X kids had distant and uncaring Boomer parents. Me included. He-Man, Optimus Prime, Duke, Splinter. They were basically surrogate parents to lots of us. To see Optimus die like this. Damn. This was the first time a ton of kids experienced death. And it sticks with us to this day because of it.
Peter Cullen said that he fashioned Prime's voice and character after his Marine brother. His brother told him that if he was a hero robot, to be (paraphrasing) strong enough to be kind and gentle. Optimus was the dad some kids didn't have.
I was 7 when this movie came out. I remember it watching it with my dad, the ex Vietnam-era Marine, and listening to him darkly chuckle at the traumatized cries of the children throughout the theatre, LOL... He told me that he actually liked this movie because it gave at least some sense of the emotional cost of warfare. A couple years ago I showed it to my grown nephew (in his 20s) and he was just agape. He was like "Unk this is the hardest cartoon I've ever seen in my life. It was like Saving Private Ryan for kids" That first 15 minutes _really_ let you know they were NOT playing around
Back in 2005 my friend rushed into my dorm room and was like “COME TO MY ROOM RIGHT NOW!” I rushed upstairs and he played the intro of the Transformers movie. “It is the year 2005…” He had the biggest grin on his face.
I was a big Transformers fan as a kid. This movie broke me with the death of Optimus Prime, probably the first time I experienced the death of a main hero character.
Yep, I saw it in the cinema first time, before they added the closing monolog , so when I first saw this , broken 5-6 year old me never got the "and Optimus Prime, will return". Although I remember saying "but what about.... " listing off the other Autobots , when I got the VHS version. However, if we were wrecks then, imagine how we would have been if we got the deleted scenes as well!! Shockwave crushed to death! Red Alert shot in the back and his corpse left there until the Megs Prime fight! Ultra Magnus being ripped apart instead of blowing up!😱😱
Yup. The company wanted to sell a new generation of toys so they killed off Optimus not realizing how loved Optimus is. Peter Cullen said he got many letters from children. Also made Hot Rod a hated character
Information on Mr. Spock for me from Star Trek: the wrath of Khan! But yeah, I feel you. They actually did something similar with G.I. Joe the movie but the reaction to this film was so negative that they Redcon it when they release that one.
47yrs old and still to this day Optimus death hits them feelings. Crushed me and a movie theater full of kids in 86. Parents was pissed because kids was crying
Grim club were in. Held my Dad’s hand when he died of pulmonary fibrosis in August; now the Optimus scene hits different. Funny how media takes on different meanings as we move through the phases of a life.
@@nettythepenguin3971 Soundwave had 6 at this point. He came with Buzzsaw. Rumble, Frenzy, Ratbat, Laserbeak, and Ravage were sold separately in two packs. (I know that doesn't come out even. Frenzy was in two of the packs.) Blaster was packaged alone and two packs of Eject, Rewind, Steeljaw, and Ramhorn came out shortly before the movie.
@@nettythepenguin3971those are both Soundwaves. And Laserbeak is the most successful deception of all time. Can't think of a time he ever failed a mission.
In an interview with Collider, Cullen (Optimus Prime voice actor) recalls hearing about the distraught, traumatized little kids who were deeply affected by Optimus Prime's death and how he was called back after his alleged retirement from the character to correct this.
Peter Cullen actually tried to convince the execs not to kill off Optimus Prime and told them its not a good idea but they didn't want to listen until after the fact
A friend of mine just read an autobiography of the voice director of these old cartoons, who talks about being woken up in the middle of the night by a phone call from Starscream asking him to pick him up from jail (apparently not the first time Chris Latta needed bailing out)!
OMG i loved both those shows, how did I never put it together?? and how is it the same exact voice? that can’t just be that guy’s speaking voice! but then if he were “voice acting,” wouldn’t he have come up with something different for each of them???
@@doctaflo No, I think Chris Latta (God rest him) used the voice for both characters because they were the exact same type of sniveling coward. Though Cobra Commander was effective in the first season and his voice is actually deeper than Starscream's just a smidge. But he basically became Starscream once Serpentor was made.
He also voiced " Old Snake" in the Transformers cartoon S03E23 "Only Human," a character that is _incredibly_ reminiscent of Cobra Commander, making possibly the first on-screen crossover between _The Transformers_ and _G. I. Joe._
12:14 childhood trauma initiated. I was six and Optimus was my hero. Imagine you’re going to the movies to see your favorite show on the big screen only for all of your favorite characters get murdered, violently. Sobbing and tears.
I was 7, the trailer ruined played spoiler alert. I was so scared during that fight but I just knew he was gonna die. I was so heart broken balling in tears. They made all the autobots weak. It was horrible how they did that to the autobots.
To a new viewer (and the Hasbro exec's in charge) they are anonymous, disposable redshirts. For us they were heroic childhood companions we had adventured alongside for two seasons of the cartoon - and they mercilessly gunned them down in the most horrific ways they could, because censors at the time didn't recognise violence against monsters and robots as comparable to real life, but us kids with our vivid imaginations, we did. WE DID! Optimus Prime was as real to us as any flesh and blood hero, and we grieved for every dead body we recognised on the ground... except maybe poor Windcharger, but somebody had that toy damnit and were probably hoping the movie would finally be his chance to shine.
@@fawziekefli2273They can't react when they never watched the original G1 animated series. They have no connection with these characters like 70's and 80's kids.
I was thinking the same thing. Optimus wasn't the only one to die. All the autobots that died in the beginning of the movie was the G1 cartoon. Those were our guys lol
Hello there. Gen Xer here. I was 13 years old when I saw this film on its opening weekend. My father took me and my 8 year old brother, not knowing what we were going to see. For my generation, the death of Optimus Prime scared every single child that went & saw this film in the theaters. I saw so my kids crying as they were leaving the theater, including my brother. Also, the level of violence for a kid’s movie, the death of most of the Generation 1 characters, the “Oh shit!” line being uttered, it was a lot for kids to comprehend and not too mention my dad being blindsided by it all. For my generation, Transformers: The Movie was a whole new ballgame.
Transformers: The Movie is playing in the local theater next week. I've contacted a bunch of highschool friends that I originally saw it with and we're going as a reunion!
It is ironic before he passed away he did not think highly of the role. He used the words "I play a toy eating other toys. " Yet he actually gave a great performance that most fans remember the lines he spoke up to now. There are a lot of people really remember the lines of his last role.
Man came in, did his lines and left. When word came down that they needed some redubbing Welles wasn't available due to his health (May have even been dead at that point) so Nimoy stepped in and nailed it. Most can't tell the difference.
Hasbro Execs: "We need to sell a new Transformers toy set.. so you guys need to kill of most of the old ones in the cartoon movie" *Cut to* - Millions of 80s kids sobbing in movie theaters watching characters they just spent 2 years falling in love with get shot point blank, blown up, and stabbed in the robogut.
Which doesn't really make sense to me. It's not like kids who want the new toys aren't going to buy them if the old cast is still around. Those kids already have the toys for the old cast. So regardless of whether or not the characters are still around, they'll still have the toys of those characters. If anything, all you'll do is create a rift of spite that will cause them to not want the new toys because of how they replaced the old characters. That said, I don't mind that characters die in this movie. My problem with it is how many of them are killed off. Especially when you see those same characters go through so much in the show, only to get killed off here by far less.
When Optimus cried my mum balled her eyes out I was so confused, didn't think she paid attention. Even now in her late 60s she remembers the feeling. That's the difference between movies now and when I was a child. Emotions
Fun little note: Daniel's full name is Daniel Witwicky. His dad, Spike Witwicky, is who the character Sam Witwicky from the Bay movies was based. That's why he's with Bumblebee for the whole film.
You poor poor people, thank God you finally watched the real Transformers movie. I always said the first live action movie should have been this movie done shot for shot and just put the soundtrack and voice overs on it.
One of the things that was established in the first two seasons of the G1 cartoon (before the release of the movie) is that the Decepticons had the aerial superiority and had "the high ground" advantage (although they would forget and have Autobots fly every once in a while) until the Autobots got reinforcements and got their own jet transformers. That is why the Decepticons had a massive advantage in their war on Cybertron. The Dinobots were actually heavy hitters and were often used to fight against the bigger bots but, unfortunately, were later reduced to comedy characters. Grimlock was once tricked by Megatron to fight Optimus Prime and actually defeated him; but after gaining his senses then beat the crap out of Megatron. That's what made the Dinobots so cool.
Decepticons were also military weapons and communication devices, although the Autos encroached on that territory, too, after a while. I always wanted to see a Decepticon orbital satellite...I'm not surprised that they don't make new TF disguised as today's tech, how would you transform a toy robot into a CD, an MP3 player or an IPad? But the real military advantage came through the invention of Combiners, of which Devastator in this movie was just the first (and most singular). All the other combiner teams refined the process, and it basically became kind of an arms race, with whichever side could field the most. Well, I guess Omega Supreme and the City Changers upped the ante even more...
Dudes, Optimus' death traumatized a generation of kids - enough that they brought him back a season or so later because hordes of parents complained. The massacre of Autobots was simply to introduce a new toyline. So, thanks, Hasbro. Galvatron was voiced by Leonard Nimoy. So many things I wanna comment to your reactions. I'm just happy to see other people watching this.😊
The writers actually had him coming back in the coming episodes the whole red dust zombie saga not due to the parents. There is a cool behind the scenes with the writers where they explain the whole thing.
Treat this movie with respect, its a beloved classic like you wouldnt believe, you woulda been flamed like never before if you had been disrespectful to this classic. Loved the reaction!
Yes, this was a MARVEL US & Japan co-production. A good number of celebrated Japanese animators and mecha designers worked on this. It's also why Unicorn is basically pure evil robo Galactus! Optimus' death attributed to fatal systems damage, while Magnus and Kup's part where still mostly intact and repairable. Also Magnus was originally meant to be drawn and quartered, but it was changed at the last minute for being too gruesomely violent.
If a Transformer loses their "spark" they die. If they get damaged, blown apart, taken apart, but whatever is containing their spark remains intact, the Transformer can be repaired and live. That's the only way my brain can reconcile what goes on in this movie.
Optimus prime was a pretty major thing back in the day. But they didn’t expect it to be. They underestimated Optimus prime’s popularity and had killed him and many of the other transformers off because their toys had been discontinued. Should be noted the following seasons of the show, due to realising his popularity, prime still made some appearances. There’s one or two episodes with flashbacks featuring prime and a later episode where the deceptions bring prime’s body back as an evil double agent. The episode ended with the small spark of prime’s noble heart not being able to go through with destroying the autobots and ultimately sacrificing himself to save them. However eventually they decided to bring prime back permanently.
Yep. We resented the fact they killed Prime so we never fully embraced the new generations of transformers(with some exceptions). One of the returns of Prime episodes gave him a second death that was even more traumatizing than the Movie death. They had him falling apart with half his face gone exposing mechanics underneath, Hasbro seemed to enjoy torturing kids. Cocaine 80s was a crazy time for TV and Film
Yes, this. Many G1 characters were killed off for new characters (toys) to sell. Gross misunderstanding/ money grab. I like to think of this movie as my introduction to anime. I’m an OG, lol. I was blown away watching this as a kid in the 80’s.
The toy lines were from Japan, so when it was decided that Optimus Prime should come back, the Japanese eventually made him a new toy, but it came out like two or three years later, and the cartoon for that body was Japanese only (Masterforce). The toy hitting the US about the same time the cartoon was slowly going off air, so not too many American kids had Powermaster Optimus Prime, but some might have seen him in one of last catalogue booklets from one of their last Transformers toys back in 1988 or 89.
15 year old me seeing this in the theater balling my eyes out when Prime died while all my friends were in the theater next door watching Back to School.
He was still the worlds fastest talker to me! Could it be possible to speak faster in another language because word lengths are shorter on average??? It seems to me Spanish phrases take longer to say than the same thing in English
True, but Dr. Smoov does a *damn* good impression...look up The Rude Awakening of Optimus Prime (warning: VERY NSFW)! Wonder what ever happened to him?
Garry Chalk, David Kaye, Jake Foushee, Neil Kaplan, Jon Bailey, Chris Hemsworth, Alan Tudyk, Andy, Santillan, Eric Edwards, Ron Hayden, Robert Belgrade, Pierre Tremblay, Gary Anthony Williams, Chris Cox, Fred Tatasciore, Seth MacFarlane, Abraham Benrubi, Breckin Meyer
A majority of the songs were specifically done for the movie with The Touch being the most iconic. It was originally written for Sylvester Stallone’s movie Cobra but it went to Transformers which was the better choice. While in the later season 3 of the G1 cartoon rectifies one thing from this movie, the death of Optimus broke the hearts of MILLIONS of kids. The two, well known voices from this movie (who’ve passed on) are Leonard Nimoy (Spock) as Galvatron and Orson Wells (THE Orson Wells who produced the original War of the Worlds radio program that caused millions to panic back in 1938) as Unicron
I forget which one, but one of the bands took the job just for the $$$, figuring they'd make a quick buck from the stupid kids' movie to finance their REAL career (they even made up a "fake" band name, so as not to be associated with it)...Years later, their song in this movie is their biggest hit and virtually the ONLY thing they are known for and still get requests for (I think they may even have adopted the fake name for real)!
Although the film wasn't successful in the theater it has undoubtedly become a CULT CLASSIC and has been selling copies on every format to this day making it one of the most profitable animated movies from that era.
The death of Prime is the first instance of audience outrage resulting in actual change that I can remember. ie they brought Optimus back to life soon after
@@RaptorNX01Yup. The movie was already done, so they changed the dialog to say that Duke was in a coma, and added an off screen “Duke is gonna be okay” at the end of the movie. Without those lines, it’s obvious that Duke actually dies. He’s never seen in the film again after he gets “injured”
@@radioraheem9820 he did it in G2 (after the movie) when he build the bots that form computron. he gave them his new brain power so they will not be like the diobots.
"I love how the decepticons are just standing there exposed." Rule number 1 of Most Transformers Media. Starscream ruins every plan he's a part of. Hell the only reason Megatron keeps him as his left hand bot is so he can keep an eye on him. (Soundwave is the Right Hand of Megatron)
And then there's Shockwave (who sadly got little air time in this). *Originally* the only Brains that Megatron trusted other than himself. The ever stalwart protector of Cybertron while megs tended to his machinations. (though I *love* all the crazy crap the comics added in for his personality over the years!)
My favorite Megatron-Starcream interaction from the original show: Megatron: "You are either lying...or you're STUPID!" Starscream: "I'm stupid, I'M STUPID!!" 🤣🤣🤣
he also keeps him close because, despite his scheming and incompetence, he is Megatron's best warrior which is why he's typically the 2nd in command (Soundwave/Shockwave too depending on the script)
he also keeps him around to keep him sharp, as he knows that he can best starscream and knows that starscream would allow no other deception to overthrow him
The soundtrack of this film is one of the BEST ever made. I watched this at the theatre when I was 11 , its still one of my favourite films of all time and ive watched it so many times I can't even count.
Great reaction, probably one of the best for this movie, since you guys keep an open mind. A lot of other reactors just come off as asinine because they trying to be "cool", by pointing out any perceived animation errors or simply the boxy style, while totally ignoring the crazy amount of intricate details. Or even denigrating the soundtrack simply for being 80s metal, rather than enjoying what is arguably one of the best soundtracks for any movie. And it's totally okay to criticize the movie; especially since you wouldn't know a lot of the characters anyway. And it's a very ambitious movie that tries to cram a lot into its runtime. Overall, great reaction. Incidentally, this is arguably one of the most profitable movies of all time. It bombed at the box office as it was only shown in a limited number of cinemas, but between the DVDs, Blu Rays, and the MASSIVE amount of merchandise that's still being produced to this day that's based specifically on this movie, it's more than made its money back.
This movie has a badass soundtrack! "The Touch" by Stan Bush was originally written for the 1986 action adventure thriller COBRA, until it was used for THE TRANSFORMERS, and Yes, it's Optimus Prime's theme song.
As a 5 year old in 1986 this was the first movie I ever saw in a theatre and I was destroyed by the death of Optimus Prime. It remains the most important piece of media I've ever experienced in life.
Took six years to animate and had the budget of a small Hollywood film with a near all-star voice cast. Orsen Welles final film before his passing. TF86 is a giga classic! But I have to know how in the blue f did you two skip over blasting the Transformers theme performed by LION?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
I wish I could go back to watch this same with Jurassic Park and others I saw the 2000s cartoons as a kid and watched this later on in a DVD in a prime case that transformed
I was around 8 when this came out, and utterly obsessed. My parents were born during WW2 and were thoroughly bemused, but bought me a VHS copy when it became available and were probably very grateful for the peace and quiet. The animation was a *big* step up from the TV show.
Those father and son are Witwiki! And the fast talking Blur was voiced by the Micro machine guy. Google the old commercials. He is famous for talking fast. First movie i saw in the theaters! I was 5. I think. Older brothers! Love Transformers. all the music was perfect! Fans of them know!
I grew up with this movie. I literally wore out the VHS tape I had as a kid. It's still my favourite animated movie of all time and still takes me on a nostalgic trip whenever I watch it. Also, the version I had in the UK had a different intro and extra end narration that said Optimus Prime would return, as his death upset so many kids elsewhere. They also edited out Spike's one swear word from that version.
So one Saturday afternoon. I'm visiting a friend of mine at his home and he has other kids my age gathered around and it turns out he had the Transformers movie.....this was around 89/90. So the movie starts and I'm so stoked because I'm an Optimus fan. The movie is going great. The great fight happens and Prime dies. I swear...to this day I don't remember finishing the movie because the trauma of Optimus dying TRAUMATISED me😂😂😂. But that's the beautiful thing about storytelling full of creativity,heart and soul. You end caring about characters who are part of your life.
"How many of those songs are actual pop songs?". There was a vinyl album released after the film, so...they all were, to a degree. I was a kid when this came out and I did watch it in the cinema. It was everything you'd imagine it to be, and more for a 10 or 11 year old.
I remember I went to the movies to see this when I was 9 years old in 1986 watching this on a small screen doesn't do this movie justice it was an amazing film that led into the new season of Transformers on TV with Rodimus Prime leading the Autobots
The opening sequence was made so much better for the rerun in theaters with the HD remaster. I died and went to heaven. It was like watching it for the first time.
I took my Younger brother to this movie (was his first movie in theaters) and since then he's given me copies of this movie and videos and music videos connected to this movie... up until he passed away... our generation didn't like optimus dying so they brought him back in next tv seasons... and we did understand death and wars ... just didn't want Optimus to go so when they suffered in sales and low ratings (TV) they brought him back and the fans came back
35:20 There was CG in "Great Mouse Detective" (1986) and every Disney animated feature afterward. The clock tower sequence was rotoscoped over 3d wireframe output. "Mermaid" was the last one to use actual cels and paint and "Rescuers Down Under" was the first one to use digital color and fully rendered 3d output. In anime, there was a rendered CG sequence in "Lensman" (1984) but it wasn't common for a few years, and there was none in this movie.
Love that although she hadn't seen any of the cartoons she really got all the story beats and even had a few correct predictions that happens in later seasons of the tv show after the movie
Fun fact, Optimus does end up coming back, but pretty much ONLY because they underestimated how much the audience actually cared about him. So in the cartoon in later seasons (not sure how much later it was) they kept coming up with excuses to bring him back temporarily and eventually made it permanent. When the movie was made, the authorities up top said, "We need new toys, so get rid of the old ones." and nobody thought it would really matter other than selling the new toys. The put so much care into the movie though that kids in theaters everywhere were crying and they realized something had to be done.
You’re remembering things a bit incorrectly. In season three they bought Optimus prime back once as a zombie. It didn’t look like he died again, but it is revealed later that his body was saved and they bring him back to life fully But we’re only talking about the last four or five episodes of the series because it was canceled soon after that
What a voice cast this movie has! Still blows my mind that this is the last film role of Orson Welles. I remember hearing Ultra Magnus speak for the first time and thinking "OMG it's the Unsolved Mysteries guy!" I remember the Go-Bots had a movie out around this same time, but their movie was just the same crappy animation from their TV series, now looking worse on a giant screen. This movie was a huge step up from the quality of the animation quality of the Transformers TV series. Also the Go-Bots movie was also introducing a new lineup of Go-Bots toys, but their new toys were robots that turned into rocks. Wow, what fun.
Watched this as a 7 year old. To say this film resonated with every child that saw it would be an understatement. Seeing Prime die - when in those days, there were no internet or social media spoilers, was shocking. Parents were so annoyed that their kids were left crying that Sunbow/Hasbro who were producing GI Joe The movie at the same time made a last minute sound edit to the scene where Duke is impaled through the heart by Serpentor’s snake to have Scarlet say off camera ‘he’s fallen into a coma’ - so kids would be ok knowing Duke wasn’t dead. Oh and the soundtrack- I still remember how great this sounded, the thumping 80’s rock throughout the film plus Unicron’s imposing deep voice were mind blowing. I feel privileged to have seen this in the Cinema.
Saw this when it first released. Just blew my mind watching my fave autobots get distroyed.... And the soundtrack only gets better the more you watch it and realise each song fits sooooo well with what's going on with the film. 50 years+ and still love this film. Best transformers film of them all... Till all are one!
How did parents feel about this movie? It caused a backlash so huge that Hasbro resurrected Optimus Prime. In the 80s cartoons were just 30 minute commercials. Hasbro, for whatever reason (I assume a dip in toy sales), decided to scrap most of the original Transformers and introduce new ones. Which is why we have this movie. Unfortunately us children fell in love with most of the Transformers that were killed off so we were devastated by the time the movie was over. The season of the television series after this movie was a huge flop as it had mostly the new Transformers and not even the writing could save it, nor did bringing Optimus Prime back. As for the animation, I should point out that Marvel had the rights to make the comic books for most of Hasbro's toy properties and Sunbow Productions was tasked with producing the animated series. In the case of GI Joe, Inhumanoids, Visionaries, and Transformers (all Hasbro toy lines where Marvel was making the comic books) a Japanese animation studio was used. For Transformers, the animation studio obtained the rights to create a Japanese version of the show that was different than the American version. Which was fitting as the original Transformers toys were all produced in Japan under various properties. Hasbro merely bought any "robot transforms into X" toyline for the original Transformers. If the robot transformed into a car or truck it was an Autobot, everything else was a Decepticon. The exceptions were the Dinobots and Constructicons.
Well.... They have Cybertron's equivalent of Harry Potter's Expansion Charm... A small tent that's like a big house inside. And Prime's trailer goes in a pocket dimension. Anyway, this is cartoon logic. Anything they can think of and draw is true. 😂😂😂
That blew my mind when I was a kid. I watched a lot of R rated movies so I already talked like a sailor by age 9 but this was a cartoon. Didn't expect that.
It was done so the film would be rated higher than G. Many theaters back then only played G rated movies during the day and the producers wanted some night showings to entice the teen fans to see it when all the younger kids wouldn't be in the theaters.
Alien/s, Terminator..... Robocop (i was 7)! Oddly, it was Robocop 2 that F'd me up. How they *made* Cain. They spared little details in the original cut. O_O
No one has said anything but I am gonna apologize anyway. We had a weird awful color thing in the intro of this video. Adobe Premiere kind of gets dumb when you swap between computers and it'll change your colors on you. Anyone who fell over at the ghastly sight of those colors... I am sorry.
It was made for killing off the old line of toys and starting a new line.
what you mean it looks badass it easy on my eyes. XD it was a wonderful accident
Mee too I am like damn for real
That was not funny.... but was colorful
Love this movie even thow it dosent have much of a stroy its still great. You guys should whacth more old films animated or anime films that you haven't seen from the 80s and 90s they definitely don't make em how they use to. It's also just crazy to see how much better animation was from the 1910s all the way up to the 2000s since most of it was handrawn.
RIP, Orson Welles, Unicron, 1915-1985
RIP, Scatman Crothers, Jazz, 1910-1986.
RIP, Lionel Stander, Kup, 1908-1994.
RIP, Leonard Nimoy, Galvatron, 1931-2015.
RIP, Robert Stack, Ultra Magnus, 1919-2003
Till All Are One.
'Til All Are One. 😔❤
RIP, Christopher Collins, Starscream 1949-1994
@@I.am.Iain-81Chris Latta. But yeah. RIP Incredible voice.
@ARealityStorm I think he was born Latta but he also went under 'Collins'
He also voiced 'Wheeljack' in the TV series as well as Darkstorm & Cravex in Visionaries. What a great talent, also appeared in the 80s Roadhouse with Patrick Swayze
Til all are One.
Prime dying traumatized a generation of kids me included. Leonard Nimoy as Galvatron was awesome.
I love Frank Welker to death. He voiced my early childhood , however I always preferred Leonard Nimoy as Galvatron over Frank in season 3.
Bro my dad had to take me out of the theater because I wouldn’t stop crying
As a kid I was more annoyed by Wheeljack's because he was a favorite of mine like Ironhide and Prime but unlike them he got no last minute of glory he just died off screen.
@@jokerz7936 In the original script, Wheeljack was to be a main character and end up, after butting heads, with Arcee. But that script was dropped, along with the Giant Autobot Snake bot!!!
I had legit nightmares over it
This death of Optimus Prime is why he never stays dead anymore. The severe backlash to his death in this movie forced them to bring Optimus back to life about a year later, and every subsequent death has been very short-term.
If I remember correctly, they also had to quickly change up the death of Duke in the GI Joe move because of it. And made it so he was only wounded.
@@coreyschleder8418 he was "Badly injured and in a coma". lol
And he got killed mainly to make way for new toys.
@@phantom6 That scene was so lame. But yeah they could not off any characters anymore after that. At least not main cast. I think this is where it comes from that unless there is fatigue towards a character they never off him.
I recall Megatron, from Beast Wars, telling Primal:
"Oh, you Optimuses do love to sacrifice yourselves, don't you?"
I'm 41 and this has been my favorite movie since childhood. I watch it every few months.
hello, twin soul.
I’m 42, I try to save it as long as I can between watches - afraid it will lose its magic which would break my heart. Can recite the whole movie pretty much
I'm 42. I watched it twice in a month recently with my son.
same..i had this on dvd..bought these toys at good will ..they had hot rod and dino bots their...in the 90s i guess kidd from 86 didnt want them anymore so me in the early 90s was alllll over them at good will
Same here! Yayr! 🎉
So, fun fact; because this was a giant toy commercial (literally), the makers of the movie genuinely thought that killing off Optimus and bringing in Rodimus Prime was a completely fantastic way to introduce the new toy line they had planned. They really didn't expect everyone to hate it so much.
And killing off fan fav autobots
Yep, & it kept us from seeing Duke actually die to Serpentor in the G.I. Joe movie, where he only suffered a coma instead.
Fun fact the producer and director of the movie both told the executives that killing Optimus Prime in particular was a bad idea but were overridden by the asshat executives who thought they knew better. In the crisis meeting following the release of the movie the asshat executives tried to throw the director under the bus but the director had kept the receipts (copies of memos and communications from the executives overriding him) and threatened to go public.
Kids might have hated it but his death and Hot Rod rising to be the hero at the end absolutely made this movie and I'd not change a thing.
@@rueceless7580 I agree with you. Although they probably should have brought back the other dead autobots in season 3 of the show.
Things to know about this movie:
1. The soundtrack is amazing.
2. This movie caused thousands of boys to cry in the cinemas.
3. The reaction to Optimus Prime saved Duke's life in the GI Joe movie.
4. Fans have been arguing about who became Cyclonus for 38 years (Skywarp or Bombshell)
5. Everyone blames Hot Rod for the death of Optimus Prime.
6. Stan Bush has stayed a fan favourite and has recorded other Transformers songs over the years.
7. The first 20 minutes of this movie is essentially a bloodbath as they kill off the old toys to promote the new ones.
8. The line from Ultra Magnus "I can't deal with that now" has become a fan insult whenever someone discusses the character.
9. There are actually 5 Dinobots, even though only 4 are seen in the movie. The 5th one only appears in two shots in a blink and you miss them sequence.
10. The Autobot character Blaster existed before the movie, however, the tapes that came from inside didn't exist until the movie.
Btw, number 4... it's gotta be skywarp with his true loyalty to Galvatron and scourge is Thundercracker with his ego. 3 insecticons for 3 sweeps
1. YES, as iconic as Star Wars music
2. myself included as a 10 year old
3. true
4. Skywarp - Cyclonus, Thundercracker = Scourge, Insecticons = Sweeps
5. not me - i loved Rodimus Prime/Hot Rod
6. true
7. i don't want to talk about the killing 😞
8. LOL
9. because of all the edits this is true
10. didn't he have a cassette probe in one of the episodes (or was that in Season 3 after the movie)?
Snarl (the 5th Dinobot) actually appears in 3 shots,
Twice in Dino-mode and once in Robot-mode,
The robot-mode shot is the hardest to spot as it's in the moment Hot Rod and Kup are landing the Quintesson ship on Junkion, a quick flash in the window!
11. One of the most stacked casts ever...
Leonard Nimoy (Spock, the real Spock)
Scattman Crothers (actor/musician)
Eric Idle (Monty Python)
John Moschitta Jr (fastest talking man alive, guess who he plays, famous for Micro Machine commercials in the 90s)
Casey Kasem (DJ/music personality)
Judd Nelson (The Breakfast club)
Orson freaking Welles (THAT Orson Welles)
And of course
Robert Stack (Unsolved Mysteries, Airplane!)
+ All the original voice actors (Peter Cullen, Frank Welker, etc...)
well said!
"The Touch" is the most memorable part of the entire movie. Everyone who watched this movie as a kid reacts the same when you mention this movie. They immediately sing, "You got the touch!" Respect the greatest soundtrack song ever. 🙌
Yup, I had the LP. Great vocals AND instrumentals. Dare was my favorite.
Then you watch boogie nights and realize Dirk Diggler sang it
I've got The Touch and Dare in my playlist!
I was here to comment on the very fact that this was Dirk Diggler's greatest hit😂 very strange soundtrack indeed.
To be fair and in the words of honest trailers, they do play it *alot*
For the record, Blurr’s voice actor actually CAN talk that fast. Pretty sure he holds the world record for that.
He'll always be the Micro Machines guy.
John Moschitta Jr, yep he does/did hold the world record for speed talking
Yeah he was bested by some other guy but will always be Blurr
@@rafelucas5814Mr. Moschitta actually DISPUTES his Guiness World Record loss.
Held the record.
I can say now - as a 46 year old man - that watching someone else's reaction to this for the first time brings me joy, and at the same time, multiple eyes tearing up through this watch through
Hello, kindred soul...
This is the definitive Transformers movie. The modern live action stuff can’t even begin to touch this.
This will be the only true Transformers film in my eyes.
Is Transformers One any good?
"This is not authentic!" A small piece of my soul died. Michael Bay movies gave Bumble Bee the Fox Deadpool treatment now everyone thinks that's the real "Bee" :(. Great reaction.
Yeah, that pissed me off too
That was a joke
Them later saying they prefer that version wasn't a joke but saying the version they know is older isn't authentic was one
@@fun2building I can't take anyone seriously who likes Bayformers. It was pure garbo from start to finish.
After nearly 40 years, Optimus Prime’s death still makes me shed a tear or two.
@@dangerousdays2052 Honestly, I love the first movie, since it seemed to have even an inkling of effort put into it. It got me to care. But yeah, movies 2-5 are ass. I was so happy when we got the Bumblebee movie, finally a director who gives a shit.
Orson Welles voicing Unicron is legendary. It was his final performance before he died, and his poor health meant he spoke his lines in a bored, hoarse tone.
But the kicker? IT WORKED. Unicron sounds like a god would; bored and so calm because nothing bothers him. Unicron is utterly terrifying and so iconic because of Orson's performance.
yep, no one else can come close to how he made Unicron feel like how a god would really act, utterly indifferent with slight amounts of irritation and amusement until the very end when he cannot comprehend him self failing
It was less due to his health and more that he was totally not interested in the source material. However it gave a presence to Unicron that will be hard to surpass.
@@LordElpmeYes. I heard he wasn't too excited about doing this film. But it worked.
I had nightmares about Unicron for years after this movie. Orson Wells nailed it.
@@LordElpme The raw audio actually is perfectly serviceable and still has all the gravitas. However Orson wasn't particularly, disdainful despite saying the film was about toys that do horrible violent things to one another. It was a paycheck. But since he was Orson freakin Wells, he still approached it professionally. Hence one last iconic performance, one that would be immortalized by a new generation before he shuffled off this mortal coil.
34:15 Optimus Prime was not a mere “robot” to us. He was like Captain America and the Batmobile all at once. Our beloved hero and a badass vehicle. We didn’t see him as only a robot. 34:18 yeah, that’s fair. He was revived in season 3 of the cartoon. After we cried to our parents and they wrote angry letters at Hasbro for traumatizing their kids, of course.
Sidenote, this was also why they altered GI Joe the Movie, so that Duke doesn't actually die, like they clearly planned, but "fell into a coma" and got better (offscreen). Of course, in this case, they needn't have bothered, as nobody gave a shit about Duke...(Everyone was way more invested in Flint and Lady Jaye!)
@@HandofOmegaright? Ha Ha! Still, I wish they had just stick to their guns with Duke’s death. The film could have at least stood the test of time for having integrity.
This is true and the reason they decided not to kill Duke in GI Joe movie. It's also the reason the film didn't do that well in theaters.
Lots of us Gen-X kids had distant and uncaring Boomer parents. Me included. He-Man, Optimus Prime, Duke, Splinter. They were basically surrogate parents to lots of us. To see Optimus die like this. Damn. This was the first time a ton of kids experienced death. And it sticks with us to this day because of it.
Peter Cullen said that he fashioned Prime's voice and character after his Marine brother.
His brother told him that if he was a hero robot, to be (paraphrasing) strong enough to be kind and gentle. Optimus was the dad some kids didn't have.
Starscream: "Who disrupts my Coronation!"
Galvatron: "Coronation, Starscream? This is bad comedy!"
And the fact Starscream survived being turned to ash.
@@brianl8481 His Spark, not his body. BIG difference.
@@Cobalt_Dragon0716 He still survived and was able to do a bit of trolling.
@@brianl8481 Yup, when he took over Waspinator's body. lol
And they added that into the War for Cybertron games which was epic
I was 7 when this movie came out. I remember it watching it with my dad, the ex Vietnam-era Marine, and listening to him darkly chuckle at the traumatized cries of the children throughout the theatre, LOL... He told me that he actually liked this movie because it gave at least some sense of the emotional cost of warfare. A couple years ago I showed it to my grown nephew (in his 20s) and he was just agape. He was like "Unk this is the hardest cartoon I've ever seen in my life. It was like Saving Private Ryan for kids" That first 15 minutes _really_ let you know they were NOT playing around
Back in 2005 my friend rushed into my dorm room and was like “COME TO MY ROOM RIGHT NOW!” I rushed upstairs and he played the intro of the Transformers movie. “It is the year 2005…” He had the biggest grin on his face.
Reminds me of certain Back to the Future fans when 2015 occurred.
Star Trek fans are likely going to be camping in San Francisco on September 1st for the start of the Bell Riots.
Micheal?
@@vedinthorn Who?
@@kaylemathewcomendador6964 I had a very similar experience with a buddy in college back in about 2005, including my room being one floor above his.
"Arise Rodimus Prime"
"I got goosebumps"
Same here. Every single time.
40 years later still goosebumps as an old man.
Me too
Me three!
He's like Mufasa. He lives in you.
ditto even after all these decades
I was a big Transformers fan as a kid.
This movie broke me with the death of Optimus Prime, probably the first time I experienced the death of a main hero character.
Yep, I saw it in the cinema first time, before they added the closing monolog , so when I first saw this , broken 5-6 year old me never got the "and Optimus Prime, will return". Although I remember saying "but what about.... " listing off the other Autobots , when I got the VHS version.
However, if we were wrecks then, imagine how we would have been if we got the deleted scenes as well!!
Shockwave crushed to death! Red Alert shot in the back and his corpse left there until the Megs Prime fight! Ultra Magnus being ripped apart instead of blowing up!😱😱
Yup. The company wanted to sell a new generation of toys so they killed off Optimus not realizing how loved Optimus is. Peter Cullen said he got many letters from children.
Also made Hot Rod a hated character
I see you, fellow fan. Here's a fistbump from a G1 gal. 🤜🏻🤛🏻
Between this and Neverending Story we grew up fast. Our lives weren't sugar coated.
Information on Mr. Spock for me from Star Trek: the wrath of Khan! But yeah, I feel you. They actually did something similar with G.I. Joe the movie but the reaction to this film was so negative that they Redcon it when they release that one.
Bumblebee talking thru the radio is the real unauthentic
The Junkions did it better.
And first.
47yrs old and still to this day Optimus death hits them feelings. Crushed me and a movie theater full of kids in 86. Parents was pissed because kids was crying
Gotta say I shed a tear for this one. My dad took me to the theater for this movie and I lost him to cancer this past year.
I'm sorry for your loss. Lost my mom this past summer too. Fuck cancer!
Grim club were in. Held my Dad’s hand when he died of pulmonary fibrosis in August; now the Optimus scene hits different. Funny how media takes on different meanings as we move through the phases of a life.
"You thought you were the only one with cassettes." Actually yes. Up until this movie only Soundwave had cassettes.
except the toys had cassettes they were just never in the animations.
@@blackyvertigoBlaster didn't come with cassettes. The Autobot cassettes came out just before the movie.
Ravage and Rumble, he had two
@@nettythepenguin3971 Soundwave had 6 at this point. He came with Buzzsaw. Rumble, Frenzy, Ratbat, Laserbeak, and Ravage were sold separately in two packs. (I know that doesn't come out even. Frenzy was in two of the packs.) Blaster was packaged alone and two packs of Eject, Rewind, Steeljaw, and Ramhorn came out shortly before the movie.
@@nettythepenguin3971those are both Soundwaves. And Laserbeak is the most successful deception of all time. Can't think of a time he ever failed a mission.
In an interview with Collider, Cullen (Optimus Prime voice actor) recalls hearing about the distraught, traumatized little kids who were deeply affected by Optimus Prime's death and how he was called back after his alleged retirement from the character to correct this.
Peter Cullen actually tried to convince the execs not to kill off Optimus Prime and told them its not a good idea but they didn't want to listen until after the fact
"You're an idiot, Starscream." will always be one of my favorite lines
I get goosebumps every time I see Hot Rod/Rodimus' fingers join with the Matrix. Destiny fulfilled.
Bumble Bee here is authentic. That's the real Bumble Bee not like in Michael Bay movies.
yeah this is bumblebee.... keep it all G1 is what i say
They were joking dude.
@@Jhiaxus315 Were they?
Bay made Bumblebee talk like the Junkions.
@@jasonrailton7990 Yeah! the only difference is that Junkions uses T.V. and Bay Bee is radio. hahahaha!!! 🤣🤣🤣 th-cam.com/video/zoEJpK4pY2U/w-d-xo.html
15:09 Starscream was voiced by Chris Latta who also voiced Cobra Commander in G.I. Joe who lead Cobra.
R.I.P.
He was also DeCompose, the second in command of the Inhumanoids and he was Darkstorm in the Visionaries.
that makes sense wish he was still the voice actor
A friend of mine just read an autobiography of the voice director of these old cartoons, who talks about being woken up in the middle of the night by a phone call from Starscream asking him to pick him up from jail (apparently not the first time Chris Latta needed bailing out)!
His voice always reminded me of Wimp Lo in Kung Pow 😅
When he said “you don’t have the voice of a leader!” I smiled in GI Joe.
😂😂😂 "cobraaaaa-hack-cough"
OMG i loved both those shows, how did I never put it together??
and how is it the same exact voice? that can’t just be that guy’s speaking voice! but then if he were “voice acting,” wouldn’t he have come up with something different for each of them???
@@doctaflo No, I think Chris Latta (God rest him) used the voice for both characters because they were the exact same type of sniveling coward. Though Cobra Commander was effective in the first season and his voice is actually deeper than Starscream's just a smidge. But he basically became Starscream once Serpentor was made.
He also voiced " Old Snake" in the Transformers cartoon S03E23 "Only Human," a character that is _incredibly_ reminiscent of Cobra Commander, making possibly the first on-screen crossover between _The Transformers_ and _G. I. Joe._
@@fawziekefli2273It was Cobra Commander!
This Transformers movie is by FAR the best one. Growing up during Gen 1 toys and cartoons, makes this animation movie be THE greatest.❤❤❤
“No way, two can play!!!! Sick’em!!!!”
2:40 Peter Cullen was also the voice of Ironhide - so he was talking to himself in that scene.
12:14 childhood trauma initiated. I was six and Optimus was my hero. Imagine you’re going to the movies to see your favorite show on the big screen only for all of your favorite characters get murdered, violently. Sobbing and tears.
Yup I was like WTF is this for real someone gonna pay
A modern version would be a comics fan who hasn’t seen any of the movies going into Infinity War.
I was also six when this movie came out ... but I don't recall what _my_ reaction was.
I was 7, the trailer ruined played spoiler alert. I was so scared during that fight but I just knew he was gonna die. I was so heart broken balling in tears. They made all the autobots weak. It was horrible how they did that to the autobots.
*Decepticons slaughter the original crew*
Jaby and Achara have no idea how much traumatizing that was to us.
To a new viewer (and the Hasbro exec's in charge) they are anonymous, disposable redshirts.
For us they were heroic childhood companions we had adventured alongside for two seasons of the cartoon - and they mercilessly gunned them down in the most horrific ways they could, because censors at the time didn't recognise violence against monsters and robots as comparable to real life, but us kids with our vivid imaginations, we did. WE DID!
Optimus Prime was as real to us as any flesh and blood hero, and we grieved for every dead body we recognised on the ground... except maybe poor Windcharger, but somebody had that toy damnit and were probably hoping the movie would finally be his chance to shine.
Ironhide!
And their lack of a reaction to seeing the bodies of Windcharger and Wheeljack... in a reaction video ..
@@fawziekefli2273They can't react when they never watched the original G1 animated series. They have no connection with these characters like 70's and 80's kids.
I was thinking the same thing. Optimus wasn't the only one to die. All the autobots that died in the beginning of the movie was the G1 cartoon. Those were our guys lol
Hello there. Gen Xer here. I was 13 years old when I saw this film on its opening weekend. My father took me and my 8 year old brother, not knowing what we were going to see. For my generation, the death of Optimus Prime scared every single child that went & saw this film in the theaters. I saw so my kids crying as they were leaving the theater, including my brother. Also, the level of violence for a kid’s movie, the death of most of the Generation 1 characters, the “Oh shit!” line being uttered, it was a lot for kids to comprehend and not too mention my dad being blindsided by it all. For my generation, Transformers: The Movie was a whole new ballgame.
Transformers: The Movie is playing in the local theater next week. I've contacted a bunch of highschool friends that I originally saw it with and we're going as a reunion!
Orson Wells really nails it as Unicron. So menacing.
He was always such an elitist. Bizarre that his last role ever was in an extended toy commercial.
His last role.
@@crapstirrer even if it was a toy commercial he still nailed it
It is ironic before he passed away he did not think highly of the role. He used the words "I play a toy eating other toys. " Yet he actually gave a great performance that most fans remember the lines he spoke up to now. There are a lot of people really remember the lines of his last role.
Man came in, did his lines and left. When word came down that they needed some redubbing Welles wasn't available due to his health (May have even been dead at that point) so Nimoy stepped in and nailed it. Most can't tell the difference.
Hasbro Execs: "We need to sell a new Transformers toy set.. so you guys need to kill of most of the old ones in the cartoon movie"
*Cut to*
- Millions of 80s kids sobbing in movie theaters watching characters they just spent 2 years falling in love with get shot point blank, blown up, and stabbed in the robogut.
A slightly smarter set of Execs would have just given Oprimus the Galvatron treatment with a new toy
Which doesn't really make sense to me. It's not like kids who want the new toys aren't going to buy them if the old cast is still around. Those kids already have the toys for the old cast. So regardless of whether or not the characters are still around, they'll still have the toys of those characters. If anything, all you'll do is create a rift of spite that will cause them to not want the new toys because of how they replaced the old characters.
That said, I don't mind that characters die in this movie. My problem with it is how many of them are killed off. Especially when you see those same characters go through so much in the show, only to get killed off here by far less.
“It’s bad enough that Optimus Prime had to go, but he’s a robot.” How dare you, lady! 😆
When Optimus cried my mum balled her eyes out I was so confused, didn't think she paid attention. Even now in her late 60s she remembers the feeling.
That's the difference between movies now and when I was a child. Emotions
Those are childhood emotions. Movies today still elicit emotions so you're either not watching them or you shut off your adult emotions.
Fun little note: Daniel's full name is Daniel Witwicky. His dad, Spike Witwicky, is who the character Sam Witwicky from the Bay movies was based. That's why he's with Bumblebee for the whole film.
Also the cartoon series teenage Spike and his dad hung out with the transformers
You poor poor people, thank God you finally watched the real Transformers movie. I always said the first live action movie should have been this movie done shot for shot and just put the soundtrack and voice overs on it.
Those Michael Bay movies are garbage! They look like trash robots who aren’t even Junkions
I always say - there's been no other Transformers movie since 1986... Bay sucks.
One of the things that was established in the first two seasons of the G1 cartoon (before the release of the movie) is that the Decepticons had the aerial superiority and had "the high ground" advantage (although they would forget and have Autobots fly every once in a while) until the Autobots got reinforcements and got their own jet transformers. That is why the Decepticons had a massive advantage in their war on Cybertron.
The Dinobots were actually heavy hitters and were often used to fight against the bigger bots but, unfortunately, were later reduced to comedy characters. Grimlock was once tricked by Megatron to fight Optimus Prime and actually defeated him; but after gaining his senses then beat the crap out of Megatron. That's what made the Dinobots so cool.
Decepticons were also military weapons and communication devices, although the Autos encroached on that territory, too, after a while. I always wanted to see a Decepticon orbital satellite...I'm not surprised that they don't make new TF disguised as today's tech, how would you transform a toy robot into a CD, an MP3 player or an IPad?
But the real military advantage came through the invention of Combiners, of which Devastator in this movie was just the first (and most singular). All the other combiner teams refined the process, and it basically became kind of an arms race, with whichever side could field the most. Well, I guess Omega Supreme and the City Changers upped the ante even more...
Dudes, Optimus' death traumatized a generation of kids - enough that they brought him back a season or so later because hordes of parents complained. The massacre of Autobots was simply to introduce a new toyline. So, thanks, Hasbro.
Galvatron was voiced by Leonard Nimoy.
So many things I wanna comment to your reactions. I'm just happy to see other people watching this.😊
The writers actually had him coming back in the coming episodes the whole red dust zombie saga not due to the parents. There is a cool behind the scenes with the writers where they explain the whole thing.
Treat this movie with respect, its a beloved classic like you wouldnt believe, you woulda been flamed like never before if you had been disrespectful to this classic. Loved the reaction!
I have this film committed to memory. And whenever im down i watch it and its as if my late best friend is watching with me.
Yes, this was a MARVEL US & Japan co-production. A good number of celebrated Japanese animators and mecha designers worked on this. It's also why Unicorn is basically pure evil robo Galactus!
Optimus' death attributed to fatal systems damage, while Magnus and Kup's part where still mostly intact and repairable. Also Magnus was originally meant to be drawn and quartered, but it was changed at the last minute for being too gruesomely violent.
Toei had a lot of awesome mechanical designers! 'Voltron', and all the other similar shows. Kinda stacked the deck for the animation! ^_^
Unicron LAUGHS at Galactus' C&D letters!😈
Before Michael Bay came along, there came an 80’s time capsule for all. 🎵You got the touch…🎵
he has not clearly
The most important movie of my childhood. Taught me that death comes for us all.
"Wait...I still function..."
"Wanna bet?"
Quite possibly the greatest line ever uttered by Starscream.
If a Transformer loses their "spark" they die. If they get damaged, blown apart, taken apart, but whatever is containing their spark remains intact, the Transformer can be repaired and live.
That's the only way my brain can reconcile what goes on in this movie.
IIRC a Transformer's "spark" was a later addition, but which proved to be a useful element of the series mythos.
Naja. Dann wäre der Funken von Optimus Prime nie erloschen. Er wurde ja 2 mal wieder Gebaut. Obwohl einmal wieder belebt. Und einmal wieder gebaut.
3:22 You really don't remember the cartoon, Bumblebee spoke a LOT with his actual voice in that show. 😂😂😂
Optimus prime was a pretty major thing back in the day. But they didn’t expect it to be. They underestimated Optimus prime’s popularity and had killed him and many of the other transformers off because their toys had been discontinued. Should be noted the following seasons of the show, due to realising his popularity, prime still made some appearances. There’s one or two episodes with flashbacks featuring prime and a later episode where the deceptions bring prime’s body back as an evil double agent. The episode ended with the small spark of prime’s noble heart not being able to go through with destroying the autobots and ultimately sacrificing himself to save them. However eventually they decided to bring prime back permanently.
Yep. We resented the fact they killed Prime so we never fully embraced the new generations of transformers(with some exceptions). One of the returns of Prime episodes gave him a second death that was even more traumatizing than the Movie death. They had him falling apart with half his face gone exposing mechanics underneath, Hasbro seemed to enjoy torturing kids. Cocaine 80s was a crazy time for TV and Film
Yes, this. Many G1 characters were killed off for new characters (toys) to sell. Gross misunderstanding/ money grab. I like to think of this movie as my introduction to anime. I’m an OG, lol. I was blown away watching this as a kid in the 80’s.
It was actually the Quintasons who resurrected Prime.
The toy lines were from Japan, so when it was decided that Optimus Prime should come back, the Japanese eventually made him a new toy, but it came out like two or three years later, and the cartoon for that body was Japanese only (Masterforce). The toy hitting the US about the same time the cartoon was slowly going off air, so not too many American kids had Powermaster Optimus Prime, but some might have seen him in one of last catalogue booklets from one of their last Transformers toys back in 1988 or 89.
@@philippeterson1953 And then SkyLynx kidnapped a Quintesson to do it again, but properly.
"Your bargaining posture is highly dubious!"
15 year old me seeing this in the theater balling my eyes out when Prime died while all my friends were in the theater next door watching Back to School.
Blurr, the fast talking Transformer, was voiced by John Moschitta and he had a Guinness World Record for the world's fastest talker until 1990
Micromachines spoaksman. I still have a couple of mine.
micromachines were my jam
He was still the worlds fastest talker to me! Could it be possible to speak faster in another language because word lengths are shorter on average??? It seems to me Spanish phrases take longer to say than the same thing in English
There is no other voice for Optimus Prime, but Peter Cullen.
True, but Dr. Smoov does a *damn* good impression...look up The Rude Awakening of Optimus Prime (warning: VERY NSFW)! Wonder what ever happened to him?
I mean Unicron trilogy Optimus was good and that wasn't peter Cullen
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Yep I agree
@billloney2567 that's a lot voice actors😅
A majority of the songs were specifically done for the movie with The Touch being the most iconic. It was originally written for Sylvester Stallone’s movie Cobra but it went to Transformers which was the better choice.
While in the later season 3 of the G1 cartoon rectifies one thing from this movie, the death of Optimus broke the hearts of MILLIONS of kids.
The two, well known voices from this movie (who’ve passed on) are Leonard Nimoy (Spock) as Galvatron and Orson Wells (THE Orson Wells who produced the original War of the Worlds radio program that caused millions to panic back in 1938) as Unicron
I forget which one, but one of the bands took the job just for the $$$, figuring they'd make a quick buck from the stupid kids' movie to finance their REAL career (they even made up a "fake" band name, so as not to be associated with it)...Years later, their song in this movie is their biggest hit and virtually the ONLY thing they are known for and still get requests for (I think they may even have adopted the fake name for real)!
@HandofOmega The band was Spectre General. Their actual name was Kick Axe but couldn't go by that name for some kind of legal reason.
I cried my eyes out when Optimus Prime died.
Yup. Meeting the man last year and hearing that voice live..OMFG,
Although the film wasn't successful in the theater it has undoubtedly become a CULT CLASSIC and has been selling copies on every format to this day making it one of the most profitable animated movies from that era.
The death of Prime is the first instance of audience outrage resulting in actual change that I can remember. ie they brought Optimus back to life soon after
Not soon, I remember I had to wait until the end of S3...😭
more immediate reaction was altering the GI Joe movie to save duke's life to avoid a similar scenario.
@@Lorkanthal from what i remember it was also done badly. like a badly redubbed line and that was it.
@@RaptorNX01Yup. The movie was already done, so they changed the dialog to say that Duke was in a coma, and added an off screen “Duke is gonna be okay” at the end of the movie. Without those lines, it’s obvious that Duke actually dies. He’s never seen in the film again after he gets “injured”
The Dinobots are actuality the strongest Autobots. They're useful but as you can see, they aren't that smart.
they was build on earth and they can not have a huge brain do to how small of space there is.
@@supercloudreed oddly enough, there was an episode where Grimlock became supper smart but had to sacrifice it for some reason (I forgot why).
@@radioraheem9820 he did it in G2 (after the movie) when he build the bots that form computron. he gave them his new brain power so they will not be like the diobots.
Grimlock was better in the Marvel comics. He lead the Autobots for a while.
@@redsoxfan26401 i think that ep was the one where he was leading them till the new bots was build.
"I love how the decepticons are just standing there exposed." Rule number 1 of Most Transformers Media. Starscream ruins every plan he's a part of. Hell the only reason Megatron keeps him as his left hand bot is so he can keep an eye on him. (Soundwave is the Right Hand of Megatron)
makes sense that Megatron burns him with the complement to Lazerbeak at the start.
And then there's Shockwave (who sadly got little air time in this). *Originally* the only Brains that Megatron trusted other than himself. The ever stalwart protector of Cybertron while megs tended to his machinations. (though I *love* all the crazy crap the comics added in for his personality over the years!)
My favorite Megatron-Starcream interaction from the original show:
Megatron: "You are either lying...or you're STUPID!"
Starscream: "I'm stupid, I'M STUPID!!"
🤣🤣🤣
he also keeps him close because, despite his scheming and incompetence, he is Megatron's best warrior which is why he's typically the 2nd in command (Soundwave/Shockwave too depending on the script)
he also keeps him around to keep him sharp, as he knows that he can best starscream and knows that starscream would allow no other deception to overthrow him
The soundtrack of this film is one of the BEST ever made.
I watched this at the theatre when I was 11 , its still one of my favourite films of all time and ive watched it so many times I can't even count.
Great reaction, probably one of the best for this movie, since you guys keep an open mind. A lot of other reactors just come off as asinine because they trying to be "cool", by pointing out any perceived animation errors or simply the boxy style, while totally ignoring the crazy amount of intricate details. Or even denigrating the soundtrack simply for being 80s metal, rather than enjoying what is arguably one of the best soundtracks for any movie.
And it's totally okay to criticize the movie; especially since you wouldn't know a lot of the characters anyway. And it's a very ambitious movie that tries to cram a lot into its runtime.
Overall, great reaction.
Incidentally, this is arguably one of the most profitable movies of all time. It bombed at the box office as it was only shown in a limited number of cinemas, but between the DVDs, Blu Rays, and the MASSIVE amount of merchandise that's still being produced to this day that's based specifically on this movie, it's more than made its money back.
I kinda love how it's clear now in retrospect that Kup's vehicle mode is a Tesla Cybertruck
This movie has a badass soundtrack!
"The Touch" by Stan Bush was originally written for the 1986 action adventure thriller COBRA, until it was used for THE TRANSFORMERS, and Yes, it's Optimus Prime's theme song.
Megatron is the disease and Optimus is the cure...
Didn’t it later become Rodimus’ theme?
It's the themesong of the Primes
As a 5 year old in 1986 this was the first movie I ever saw in a theatre and I was destroyed by the death of Optimus Prime. It remains the most important piece of media I've ever experienced in life.
Took six years to animate and had the budget of a small Hollywood film with a near all-star voice cast. Orsen Welles final film before his passing.
TF86 is a giga classic!
But I have to know how in the blue f did you two skip over blasting the Transformers theme performed by LION?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
What were parents doing? Crying their eyes out with their kids. I remember the movies being soooooo quiet when Prime died.
I wish I could go back to watch this same with Jurassic Park and others I saw the 2000s cartoons as a kid and watched this later on in a DVD in a prime case that transformed
8:54 He hit that Dinobot so hard he gave him the Looney Toons cartoon googley-eyes 😂
I was around 8 when this came out, and utterly obsessed. My parents were born during WW2 and were thoroughly bemused, but bought me a VHS copy when it became available and were probably very grateful for the peace and quiet.
The animation was a *big* step up from the TV show.
Those father and son are Witwiki! And the fast talking Blur was voiced by the Micro machine guy. Google the old commercials. He is famous for talking fast. First movie i saw in the theaters! I was 5. I think. Older brothers! Love Transformers. all the music was perfect! Fans of them know!
Peter Cullen may have also voiced Ironhide too, not just Optimus Prime. Just throwing that out there.
I grew up with this movie. I literally wore out the VHS tape I had as a kid. It's still my favourite animated movie of all time and still takes me on a nostalgic trip whenever I watch it.
Also, the version I had in the UK had a different intro and extra end narration that said Optimus Prime would return, as his death upset so many kids elsewhere. They also edited out Spike's one swear word from that version.
Yep, same here!
So one Saturday afternoon. I'm visiting a friend of mine at his home and he has other kids my age gathered around and it turns out he had the Transformers movie.....this was around 89/90. So the movie starts and I'm so stoked because I'm an Optimus fan. The movie is going great. The great fight happens and Prime dies. I swear...to this day I don't remember finishing the movie because the trauma of Optimus dying TRAUMATISED me😂😂😂.
But that's the beautiful thing about storytelling full of creativity,heart and soul. You end caring about characters who are part of your life.
"How many of those songs are actual pop songs?". There was a vinyl album released after the film, so...they all were, to a degree. I was a kid when this came out and I did watch it in the cinema. It was everything you'd imagine it to be, and more for a 10 or 11 year old.
Especially when one of them is a Weird Al song?
They put Dare (you can win if you dare) in the Netflix show GLOW about 80s female pro wrestlers that ended up looking like He-Haw variety show
I have the CD. It's precious to me.
Check out The Cybertronic Spree. Cosplay Transformers band that play the songs live. So nostalgic.
I remember I went to the movies to see this when I was 9 years old in 1986 watching this on a small screen doesn't do this movie justice it was an amazing film that led into the new season of Transformers on TV with Rodimus Prime leading the Autobots
The opening sequence was made so much better for the rerun in theaters with the HD remaster. I died and went to heaven. It was like watching it for the first time.
I took my Younger brother to this movie (was his first movie in theaters) and since then he's given me copies of this movie and videos and music videos connected to this movie...
up until he passed away...
our generation didn't like optimus dying so they brought him back in next tv seasons...
and we did understand death and wars ... just didn't want Optimus to go so when they suffered in sales and low ratings (TV) they brought him back and the fans came back
If they had suffered in sales, the franchise would have been dead by 1987
But it continued globally to this day
35:20 There was CG in "Great Mouse Detective" (1986) and every Disney animated feature afterward. The clock tower sequence was rotoscoped over 3d wireframe output. "Mermaid" was the last one to use actual cels and paint and "Rescuers Down Under" was the first one to use digital color and fully rendered 3d output.
In anime, there was a rendered CG sequence in "Lensman" (1984) but it wasn't common for a few years, and there was none in this movie.
Lensman!! God, such an odd gem of a movie. Fun! But weird. xD
Vince DiCola is also the Guy behind Rocky IV's soundtrack. His battle themes are awesome. I still listen to the battle theme!
Same. Timeless stuff.
Yeah, there's 2 or 3 tracks that are in both.
I saw the movie in the theatre when I was 9 years old. It was epic and I loved every minute of it. It was the highlight of the summer for me.
The soundtrack was awesome!
Imagine Ultra Magnus saying "Unsolved Mysteries"
Or as an air traffic controller in 1980.
@@Dystopia1111 For me he was the captain in Strike Force. Cop series from 1981 I think.
Hot Rod's transformation into Rodimus Prime has always been one of my favorite Transformers moments.
“I got goosebumps”. Greatest reaction ever.
Love that although she hadn't seen any of the cartoons she really got all the story beats and even had a few correct predictions that happens in later seasons of the tv show after the movie
In the end, it was the power of traumatized children and upset parents that brought Optimus Prime back to life
Fun fact, Optimus does end up coming back, but pretty much ONLY because they underestimated how much the audience actually cared about him. So in the cartoon in later seasons (not sure how much later it was) they kept coming up with excuses to bring him back temporarily and eventually made it permanent.
When the movie was made, the authorities up top said, "We need new toys, so get rid of the old ones." and nobody thought it would really matter other than selling the new toys. The put so much care into the movie though that kids in theaters everywhere were crying and they realized something had to be done.
You’re remembering things a bit incorrectly.
In season three they bought Optimus prime back once as a zombie.
It didn’t look like he died again, but it is revealed later that his body was saved and they bring him back to life fully
But we’re only talking about the last four or five episodes of the series because it was canceled soon after that
What a voice cast this movie has!
Still blows my mind that this is the last film role of Orson Welles. I remember hearing Ultra Magnus speak for the first time and thinking "OMG it's the Unsolved Mysteries guy!"
I remember the Go-Bots had a movie out around this same time, but their movie was just the same crappy animation from their TV series, now looking worse on a giant screen. This movie was a huge step up from the quality of the animation quality of the Transformers TV series. Also the Go-Bots movie was also introducing a new lineup of Go-Bots toys, but their new toys were robots that turned into rocks. Wow, what fun.
At least those Go-bots' Rock Lords (and later, some animal/dino versions) *looked* cooler than the main line Go-bots! ^_^
Uh not to burst your bubble, but Bumblebee was able to talk and speak without the radio voice before the movies.
Watched this as a 7 year old. To say this film resonated with every child that saw it would be an understatement. Seeing Prime die - when in those days, there were no internet or social media spoilers, was shocking. Parents were so annoyed that their kids were left crying that Sunbow/Hasbro who were producing GI Joe The movie at the same time made a last minute sound edit to the scene where Duke is impaled through the heart by Serpentor’s snake to have Scarlet say off camera ‘he’s fallen into a coma’ - so kids would be ok knowing Duke wasn’t dead.
Oh and the soundtrack- I still remember how great this sounded, the thumping 80’s rock throughout the film plus Unicron’s imposing deep voice were mind blowing. I feel privileged to have seen this in the Cinema.
Saw this when it first released. Just blew my mind watching my fave autobots get distroyed.... And the soundtrack only gets better the more you watch it and realise each song fits sooooo well with what's going on with the film. 50 years+ and still love this film. Best transformers film of them all... Till all are one!
How did parents feel about this movie? It caused a backlash so huge that Hasbro resurrected Optimus Prime. In the 80s cartoons were just 30 minute commercials. Hasbro, for whatever reason (I assume a dip in toy sales), decided to scrap most of the original Transformers and introduce new ones. Which is why we have this movie. Unfortunately us children fell in love with most of the Transformers that were killed off so we were devastated by the time the movie was over. The season of the television series after this movie was a huge flop as it had mostly the new Transformers and not even the writing could save it, nor did bringing Optimus Prime back.
As for the animation, I should point out that Marvel had the rights to make the comic books for most of Hasbro's toy properties and Sunbow Productions was tasked with producing the animated series. In the case of GI Joe, Inhumanoids, Visionaries, and Transformers (all Hasbro toy lines where Marvel was making the comic books) a Japanese animation studio was used. For Transformers, the animation studio obtained the rights to create a Japanese version of the show that was different than the American version. Which was fitting as the original Transformers toys were all produced in Japan under various properties. Hasbro merely bought any "robot transforms into X" toyline for the original Transformers. If the robot transformed into a car or truck it was an Autobot, everything else was a Decepticon. The exceptions were the Dinobots and Constructicons.
Scale was always all over the place with the Transformers. A fully combined Devestator within Astrotrain is just one example.
Well....
They have Cybertron's equivalent of Harry Potter's Expansion Charm... A small tent that's like a big house inside.
And Prime's trailer goes in a pocket dimension.
Anyway, this is cartoon logic. Anything they can think of and draw is true.
😂😂😂
I loved how you totally missed Bumblebee yelling "$HIT!"
That blew my mind when I was a kid. I watched a lot of R rated movies so I already talked like a sailor by age 9 but this was a cartoon. Didn't expect that.
"Oh shit, what are going to do now?" was actually Spike's line.
That's Spike saying that line, not Bumblebee
It was done so the film would be rated higher than G. Many theaters back then only played G rated movies during the day and the producers wanted some night showings to entice the teen fans to see it when all the younger kids wouldn't be in the theaters.
Alien/s, Terminator..... Robocop (i was 7)! Oddly, it was Robocop 2 that F'd me up. How they *made* Cain. They spared little details in the original cut. O_O
I didn’t grow up watching this movie, but it’s still one of my favorite movies ever and left a pretty big mark on me
So glad y’all got to watch this. My Dad recorded this on VHS for me and my brothers till we were of age to understand these films.
"But couldn't they just..." "SHUT UP AND BUY THE NEW TOYS!"