So short sighted to make the deal. I understand the Israeli compassion for the hostages and their families, but what about compassion for the hostages who will inevitably be taken in the future now that the Arabs know it is a winning policy? This makes Jews throughout the world unsafe.
Its no short sighted, its all political. The Israeli left want Bibi gone, so they would literally sign a deal with terrorists that ensures the next attack where hundreds more will be murdered in order to make him look bad. disgusting
@@Miaphysite-ተውሃዶ-Orthodoxy That’s exactly why I think the only possible tactic for Israel is to view hostages as already gone, and also to promise hostage takers that they will never be safe again, and nor will anyone around them.
Non Israeli person will never understand this (understandably), but ever since 48 with our first hostages, there is a strong sentiment in every Israeli mind that "we are all vouch for each other" in Hebrew "Kol am Israel arevim ze laze", we do live in a tough neighborhood and if we're willing to live and serve in this land, out brothers will never leave us, Shalit deal in 2011 was signed after 5 years of negotiations, Shalit was in every second billboard, every news ending credits etc etc, the exchange was 5000 prisoners to 1 soldier and if you ask me now if it's was a bad deal, well, obviously, but I'd take it again.
@@marlenebuls9535 Some people seem to think it's okay to leave hostages to their fate. Imagine your own children being kidnapped by a serial killer. Would you refuse to strike a deal to save them?
What other option is there in any realistic sense? Any continuation of the war is a harm on Israeli society and economy, any giving in to Hamas demands is a long term harm to the region, any change of course is risking the lives of dozens of hostages. What other options are there?
Re:”we get them back at any cost”- so there is no fear that rewarding hostage taking will bring more hostage taking ? Is there shift in opinion from Rabin’s time “no negotiation with terrorism” to modern conformism?
Feel and emote. 11 chronicles 7:14 if My people who are called by My Name will humble themselvesand pray and seek My face and turn from their wicked ways Then I will hear
That is the long and the short: the IDF is fully present on Philadelphi Corridor and Hamas can not rearm ( here's hoping) and we are going to get our hostage back, we don't know in what condition. Yes, our country the State of Israel betrayed its citizens and hostages know the full and cruel implications of betrayal. This is phase one of the deal, lets see how far we get through the initial phase. Hamas has huge demands, which will put Israel in jeopardy to have Hamas in a leadership position of Gaza and forcing Israel off the Egyptian Border. This can't happen.....oh but they're holding out hostages....where do we go from here?
I have heard and seen a lot of Israelis that reject the hostage deal - the public opinion is not at all pro hostage deal, some people still prime reason over emotion.
opposing nor supporting a hostage deal is priming emotion over reason. there are both emotions and reasons on both sides. for example, the fear of terrorists re-arming, being liberated, the sadness at fallen soldiers having died 'in vain' (not true) that lie at the basis of opposition to a deal are also emotions. and the thought that eventually all wars come to an agreement or deal, not an incessant fighting till the literal end (no civilians left) which is a basis for support of a deal is rationale, or reason.
With all complexity of the issue and with all compation to the hostages, to say that release has no cost is simply not true. The cost is tremendous! In the Middle East reputation of strong or weak mean difference of people trying to attack you and people supporting attackers vs people scared to attack you and other who move enemy position to neutral, or from neutral to cooperation. 2)This deal is done because goverment and generals gave up the will to win in Gaza from the first days of the war. There is tremendous damage to national physicology. We send our solders to die for that?! 3) We will have to address Hamas in Gaza. If we cannot do it today, we will have to do it when todays teenagers grow up. 4) We enbolden enemy and incrased danger for jew or israeli to become hostage. This deal show real weakness or trauma that we as jews and/or israelies have - we are not ready to put survival of our nation above survival of individuals. This is the losing proposition in any war. My hope is that tactical lose not become a strategic defeat. Israel made serious mistakes giving up all Sinai for peace with Egypt, and not giving Gaza or Gazan population to Egypt. We made serious mistake in the previous war with Lebanon, which we may fix now. We made the most tragic mistake by agreeing to Oslo negotiations with mafia bosses who lived on the Soviet money. Our general clearly knew that Israel safety and arab state in the territory of Judea and Samaria are not compartable. But they put their carrers above their duty to their nation.
…….. "… Why should we declare their burning hatred for us? For eight years they have been sitting in the refugee camps in Gaza, and before their eyes we have been transforming the lands and the villages, where they and their fathers dwelt, into our estate …". -- Moshe Dayan's (former Israeli defense minister and war hero) eulogy for Ro'i Rothberg, 1956
Yet the palestinian arabs and their supporters are unable or unwilling to understand why jews are entitled to the land as well. Arabs dont have exclusive rights to it but will sacrifice themselves and their childrens lives to be the supreme custodians of the land.
the palestinian arabs and their supporters are unable or unwilling to understand why jews are entitled to the land as well. Arabs dont have exclusive rights to it but will sacrifice themselves and their childrens lives to be the supreme custodians of the land.
As a British Jew I needed to hear this. Haviv Rettig Gur is always someone I like to hear from. Thank you
He's so smart and astute
Haviv Rettig has been my most treasured voice about all things Israel for the past year.
Agree!
This is why I listen To Hugh Hewitt.
So short sighted to make the deal. I understand the Israeli compassion for the hostages and their families, but what about compassion for the hostages who will inevitably be taken in the future now that the Arabs know it is a winning policy? This makes Jews throughout the world unsafe.
yes. Very great assessment.
Very short sighted indeed.... Israelis are in damned if you do damned if you don't situation right now.
Its no short sighted, its all political. The Israeli left want Bibi gone, so they would literally sign a deal with terrorists that ensures the next attack where hundreds more will be murdered in order to make him look bad. disgusting
@@Miaphysite-ተውሃዶ-Orthodoxy That’s exactly why I think the only possible tactic for Israel is to view hostages as already gone, and also to promise hostage takers that they will never be safe again, and nor will anyone around them.
Non Israeli person will never understand this (understandably), but ever since 48 with our first hostages, there is a strong sentiment in every Israeli mind that "we are all vouch for each other" in Hebrew "Kol am Israel arevim ze laze", we do live in a tough neighborhood and if we're willing to live and serve in this land, out brothers will never leave us, Shalit deal in 2011 was signed after 5 years of negotiations, Shalit was in every second billboard, every news ending credits etc etc, the exchange was 5000 prisoners to 1 soldier and if you ask me now if it's was a bad deal, well, obviously, but I'd take it again.
Thank you for this informative discussion !
You will have to explain this to the future hostages
Was it not time to stop the Genocide in Gaza.
@@BlairMacKinnon-rf6ymit never was it's called self defense.
@@BlairMacKinnon-rf6ymThere never was it's called self defense.
@@BlairMacKinnon-rf6ym”the genocide” in gaza they started, would have ended oct 8th 2023 if they returned the hostages then. Stop playing so dumb
@@SHope-rq1hc Maybe they should stop the open air prison ,Who could live like that?
Our hearts are with Israel in these harrowing times.🇮🇱❤️🇮🇱❤️
Best explanation I’ve heard to date and good analysis of the Gazan culture and psychology.
Thanks Hugh for this..
Thanks for the incredible conversation Hugh
Israel blew it bigtime (and I say that as a supporter of Israel).
How?
@@marlenebuls9535 Some people seem to think it's okay to leave hostages to their fate. Imagine your own children being kidnapped by a serial killer. Would you refuse to strike a deal to save them?
@@marlenebuls9535 how? are you slow? you can't connect those dots?
@GeenoDente stupid comment
What other option is there in any realistic sense? Any continuation of the war is a harm on Israeli society and economy, any giving in to Hamas demands is a long term harm to the region, any change of course is risking the lives of dozens of hostages. What other options are there?
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Well spoken, as an Israeli jew your speaking for me
A very well spoken analysis.
I am very disappointed with Nethanyahu. How can he accept a deal wherein Israel loses at all fronts. Beyond comprehension.
Because it is not going to happen, he can not put Israel in such a perilous condition.
More then you know is going on. They know hamas never keeps their word and are prepared. Dont be fooled.
Let Haviv talk
Re:”we get them back at any cost”- so there is no fear that rewarding hostage taking will bring more hostage taking ? Is there shift in opinion from Rabin’s time “no negotiation with terrorism” to modern conformism?
Do Israelis get the lesson of releasing terrorists that caused thousands of citizens killed?
Feel and emote.
11 chronicles 7:14 if My people who are called by My Name will humble themselvesand pray and seek My face and turn from their wicked ways
Then I will hear
@@terraloft Religious nonsense doesn’t help.
30 innocent hostages in exchange for 1200 violent prisoners
that seems fair
Is it odd that hugh is so obsessed with supporting Israel
That is the long and the short: the IDF is fully present on Philadelphi Corridor and Hamas can not rearm ( here's hoping) and we are going to get our hostage back, we don't know in what condition. Yes, our country the State of Israel betrayed its citizens and hostages know the full and cruel implications of betrayal. This is phase one of the deal, lets see how far we get through the initial phase. Hamas has huge demands, which will put Israel in jeopardy to have Hamas in a leadership position of Gaza and forcing Israel off the Egyptian Border. This can't happen.....oh but they're holding out hostages....where do we go from here?
Yes. Very sad situation. Based on their previous experience ( release of 1027 prisoners' for one soldier) Hamas will demand more and more.
Seems to me like they’re making the same old mistake. Letting Hamas live to fight another day.
Clearly you did not listen to what Haviv was saying
They know hamas never keeps their word and are prepared. Its called Stragedy.
Bagel was invented in 16c Poland not NYC
This deal should be opprooved by the people ...
Lol. You have no sovereignty! The West just dumped you here to be their instrument.
I have heard and seen a lot of Israelis that reject the hostage deal - the public opinion is not at all pro hostage deal, some people still prime reason over emotion.
opposing nor supporting a hostage deal is priming emotion over reason. there are both emotions and reasons on both sides. for example, the fear of terrorists re-arming, being liberated, the sadness at fallen soldiers having died 'in vain' (not true) that lie at the basis of opposition to a deal are also emotions. and the thought that eventually all wars come to an agreement or deal, not an incessant fighting till the literal end (no civilians left) which is a basis for support of a deal is rationale, or reason.
Does hamas ever keep their word?
Nope.
With all complexity of the issue and with all compation to the hostages, to say that release has no cost is simply not true. The cost is tremendous! In the Middle East reputation of strong or weak mean difference of people trying to attack you and people supporting attackers vs people scared to attack you and other who move enemy position to neutral, or from neutral to cooperation.
2)This deal is done because goverment and generals gave up the will to win in Gaza from the first days of the war. There is tremendous damage to national physicology. We send our solders to die for that?!
3) We will have to address Hamas in Gaza. If we cannot do it today, we will have to do it when todays teenagers grow up.
4) We enbolden enemy and incrased danger for jew or israeli to become hostage.
This deal show real weakness or trauma that we as jews and/or israelies have - we are not ready to put survival of our nation above survival of individuals. This is the losing proposition in any war.
My hope is that tactical lose not become a strategic defeat.
Israel made serious mistakes giving up all Sinai for peace with Egypt, and not giving Gaza or Gazan population to Egypt. We made serious mistake in the previous war with Lebanon, which we may fix now. We made the most tragic mistake by agreeing to Oslo negotiations with mafia bosses who lived on the Soviet money. Our general clearly knew that Israel safety and arab state in the territory of Judea and Samaria are not compartable. But they put their carrers above their duty to their nation.
There's nothing to talk about
terible deal.
The conversation that Hugh recommends to our listening with Haviv was with Amanda Borschel-Dan. th-cam.com/video/KlYG2BkU1Rs/w-d-xo.html
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SHAME ISRAEL FOR EVER FOR EVER
LONG LIFE PALESTINE
Long live?! You call your existence life? You are the juice in the garbage can
…….. "… Why should we declare their burning hatred for us? For eight years they have been sitting in the refugee camps in Gaza, and before their eyes we have been transforming the lands and the villages, where they and their fathers dwelt, into our estate …". -- Moshe Dayan's (former Israeli defense minister and war hero) eulogy for Ro'i Rothberg, 1956
Yet the palestinian arabs and their supporters are unable or unwilling to understand why jews are entitled to the land as well. Arabs dont have exclusive rights to it but will sacrifice themselves and their childrens lives to be the supreme custodians of the land.
the palestinian arabs and their supporters are unable or unwilling to understand why jews are entitled to the land as well. Arabs dont have exclusive rights to it but will sacrifice themselves and their childrens lives to be the supreme custodians of the land.
Lies, Lies, Lies,
Bull
they don't want occupied! who would simple as that, the iran thing never going to happen because..
trup doesn't want it
Pre war video Tour of Gaza
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