Although you discussion is a great from the standpoint of pH relative to ORP, If you are discussing drinking water than you should relate the topic to that of a ~ pH 7 - 7.8 water? A neutral unbuffered low conductivity water used for drinking might start out at a slightly positive ORP 80 - 200mV ? and then with the H2 gas would be reduced to negative 400 - 500 mV.
Question: at 3:40 you state that water will "always have a neutral charge" (and I read this at other internet sites). If water always has a neutral charge (eg; 0 voltage potential) - how is it then that the ORP meter, when put in to reading millivolt level will produce values other than 0 mv? Additionally, how is it anyhow that even if the water was able to hold a charge being more positive or negative, one can fully immerse a volt meter into the solution to make a reading? In other words, to read a voltage, one side of a volt meter needs to be at 'neutral' voltage, and the other side of the meter would touch the item to be measured. In videos of this topic, it always shows the meter fully immersed fully into the liquid - so where is the 'neutral' reference coming from? Thanks for explaining.
h2hubb.com/2020/10/21/answering-questions-about-orp/ 1. Tyler W. LeBaron and Randy Sharpe, “ORP should not be used to estimate or compare concentrations of aqueous H2: An in silico analysis and narrative synopsis” published in Frontiers in Food Science and Technology; www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/frfst.2022.1007001/full. drive.google.com/file/d/1_bTyZA4Iczjmebafi2qgJu-nOhOGjTrQ/view?usp=drivesdk
h2hubb.com/2020/10/21/answering-questions-about-orp/ 1. Tyler W. LeBaron and Randy Sharpe, “ORP should not be used to estimate or compare concentrations of aqueous H2: An in silico analysis and narrative synopsis” published in Frontiers in Food Science and Technology; www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/frfst.2022.1007001/full. drive.google.com/file/d/1_bTyZA4Iczjmebafi2qgJu-nOhOGjTrQ/view?usp=drivesdk
I would be highly skeptical of ORP drops as a method for determining the ORP of a solution. ORP (Oxidation-Reduction Potential) relies on the Nernst equation, with results measured in millivolts using specialized equipment. While it might be theoretically possible to develop ORP drops, I haven’t seen any reliable evidence supporting their effectiveness or accuracy. You can learn more about ORP and H2 water via my blog article: h2hubb.com/answering-questions-about-orp/
sir please help.. i am rakesh from india, which water is good for human body between h2 water and alkaline ionized 9.0 or 9.5 ph water for long term consumption.
Have you tested Enagic and Kangen Water? I would greatly appreciate hearing your thoughts. I am a distributor and have experienced and seen so many people getting positive results, but I have yet to test or hear anyone say what our hydrogen mg/l is... I am just purchasing some H2-Blue drops and am curious to see the results! Thank you for all the information you provide! Love your channel
Hello Lucas, Thank you for your comment and compliment about my channel! I have extensive experience with water ionizers including Enagic and I actually own an SD501. We can surely discuss my test results (mg/L) and experience. My email address is Tywon@H2HUBB.com. Send me an email and we can start a dialog.
@@H2MinuteswithTywonHubbard, would it be okay if I also reached out by email with a similar inquiry about H2 concentrations? Thank you so much for your incredible work!
Hello Taiyo, Here is an article I wrote on the subject regarding Kangen water. I touched on my test results in this article. h2hubb.com/2020/10/07/what-is-kangen-water/
Hello Alex, Well, to address your question, it's better to consume water with a negative ORP, however, you need to identify what agent is causing the neg ORP. There can be harmful substances or agents that can cause a negative ORP. Now, in the video, I explained that ORP is not a very useful tool for hydrogen-rich water for various reasons, but it is the therapeutic agent that caused the water to exhibit a negative ORP reading. Therefore, ORP is not necessary to consider when addressing hydrogen-rich water but the dissloved hydrogen concentration is and the ORP reading won't tell you that. Thus, in my opinion, based on the scientific data, filtered high-concentrated hydrogen-rich water is the best water to consume daily and a negative ORP can be a indicator of the presence of dissolved hydrogen gas in water but it cannot accurately tell you how much you have in your water. Therefore, it's better to measure the H2 content or concentrations and disregard ORP. This is basically what I say in the video. Also, pools will have a positive ORP reading due to the added chlorine, which is a good thing.
@@H2MinuteswithTywonHubbard my pool has 7.2 Ph and -837 mv I don't know if the reading is wrong or not. Is this good for my pool or not? The temperature reading is 76.3
Hello Springlift, 0.45 mg/L (ppm) of dissolved H2 in water is slightly under therapeutic concentrations of H2 in water (0.5~10 + mg/L (ppm)). However, if you consume 2.2 L (74 oz) of H2 water at that concentration you will ingest 1 mg of H2, which is a therapeutic dose based on the human studies. Nonetheless, I would suggest considering another hydrogen water product or system that provides high-concentrated H2 water (1.6~5.0+ mg/L (ppm)). It will enable you to get a far better dose of H2/day.
Hello Alexis, That is an extremely high ORP reading which makes me question if the ORP meter is calibrated properly or has an error within the system. Also, how is this water being produced? I assume it is water from a water ionizer (a form of H2 water). If so I would be very careful, in order to attain a reading that high assuming there is no errors or miscalibration which is highly unlikely, the pH of the water would be through the roof (extremely high, or dangerously high). Remember, when considering H2 water (and even others) pH is the primary driver in the ORP reading and H2 contributes very little to the reading. Personally, I would be concerned to consume water that measures that high. It could actually be caustic if the pH gets too high (13+ pH). If the water is produced by a water ionizer the pH should be 9.5 or lower and the H2 concentration should be 0.8 mg/L (ppm). I hope this helps!
Of course there’s absolutely nothing online that’s accurate about any of this and every single video that you click on the people in the video say something different
Our videos are grounded in peer-reviewed scientific research and evidence, with all sources provided in the video description for your reference. This level of transparency and credibility is something that many other channels do not offer. www.frontiersin.org/journals/food-science-and-technology/articles/10.3389/frfst.2022.1007001/full www.mdpi.com/1422-0067/23/23/14750
@@H2MinuteswithTywonHubbard understood. I will do my research and look into your claims further . I do appreciate the effort because it is very hard to find anything of value with actual proof . I’ve been doing water test at my house and the current water that I have been drinking has and orp of 150 . It’s been confusing to figure out if that is good or bad. Through my own research, there are many things that make water a good water to drink not just the ORP
@@H2MinuteswithTywonHubbard if I’m understanding ORP correctly oxidizing water is dying or aging water . So I’m testing RP is it better to be negative positive or somewhere in between? 🤷♂️
So I read through your files and I was right it’s basically water that has no H2 dissolved molecules. Dead or dying water . When frozen under a microscope, the dead water will not make a beautiful geometrical shape
Although you discussion is a great from the standpoint of pH relative to ORP, If you are discussing drinking water than you should relate the topic to that of a ~ pH 7 - 7.8 water? A neutral unbuffered low conductivity water used for drinking might start out at a slightly positive ORP 80 - 200mV ? and then with the H2 gas would be reduced to negative 400 - 500 mV.
Question: at 3:40 you state that water will "always have a neutral charge" (and I read this at other internet sites). If water always has a neutral charge (eg; 0 voltage potential) - how is it then that the ORP meter, when put in to reading millivolt level will produce values other than 0 mv? Additionally, how is it anyhow that even if the water was able to hold a charge being more positive or negative, one can fully immerse a volt meter into the solution to make a reading? In other words, to read a voltage, one side of a volt meter needs to be at 'neutral' voltage, and the other side of the meter would touch the item to be measured. In videos of this topic, it always shows the meter fully immersed fully into the liquid - so where is the 'neutral' reference coming from? Thanks for explaining.
Answer please
h2hubb.com/2020/10/21/answering-questions-about-orp/
1. Tyler W. LeBaron and Randy Sharpe, “ORP should not be used to estimate or compare concentrations
of aqueous H2: An in silico analysis and narrative synopsis” published in Frontiers in Food Science and
Technology; www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/frfst.2022.1007001/full.
drive.google.com/file/d/1_bTyZA4Iczjmebafi2qgJu-nOhOGjTrQ/view?usp=drivesdk
h2hubb.com/2020/10/21/answering-questions-about-orp/
1. Tyler W. LeBaron and Randy Sharpe, “ORP should not be used to estimate or compare concentrations
of aqueous H2: An in silico analysis and narrative synopsis” published in Frontiers in Food Science and
Technology; www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/frfst.2022.1007001/full.
drive.google.com/file/d/1_bTyZA4Iczjmebafi2qgJu-nOhOGjTrQ/view?usp=drivesdk
My hydrogen water is showing positive orp in chemical drop test but -400 on digital meter test
Why is it so?
I would be highly skeptical of ORP drops as a method for determining the ORP of a solution. ORP (Oxidation-Reduction Potential) relies on the Nernst equation, with results measured in millivolts using specialized equipment. While it might be theoretically possible to develop ORP drops, I haven’t seen any reliable evidence supporting their effectiveness or accuracy.
You can learn more about ORP and H2 water via my blog article:
h2hubb.com/answering-questions-about-orp/
sir please help.. i am rakesh from india, which water is good for human body between h2 water and alkaline ionized 9.0 or 9.5 ph water for long term consumption.
What’s your opinion on distilled water?
Have you tested Enagic and Kangen Water? I would greatly appreciate hearing your thoughts. I am a distributor and have experienced and seen so many people getting positive results, but I have yet to test or hear anyone say what our hydrogen mg/l is... I am just purchasing some H2-Blue drops and am curious to see the results! Thank you for all the information you provide! Love your channel
Hello Lucas,
Thank you for your comment and compliment about my channel! I have extensive experience with water ionizers including Enagic and I actually own an SD501. We can surely discuss my test results (mg/L) and experience. My email address is Tywon@H2HUBB.com. Send me an email and we can start a dialog.
@@H2MinuteswithTywonHubbard thanks for the video. Do you mind sharing the hydrogen concentration of the kangen water SD501? thanks
@@H2MinuteswithTywonHubbard, would it be okay if I also reached out by email with a similar inquiry about H2 concentrations? Thank you so much for your incredible work!
Hello Taiyo,
Here is an article I wrote on the subject regarding Kangen water. I touched on my test results in this article.
h2hubb.com/2020/10/07/what-is-kangen-water/
Question :
what is the best drinking water ORP ?
and
Swimming pool ?
Hello Alex,
Well, to address your question, it's better to consume water with a negative ORP, however, you need to identify what agent is causing the neg ORP. There can be harmful substances or agents that can cause a negative ORP.
Now, in the video, I explained that ORP is not a very useful tool for hydrogen-rich water for various reasons, but it is the therapeutic agent that caused the water to exhibit a negative ORP reading. Therefore, ORP is not necessary to consider when addressing hydrogen-rich water but the dissloved hydrogen concentration is and the ORP reading won't tell you that.
Thus, in my opinion, based on the scientific data, filtered high-concentrated hydrogen-rich water is the best water to consume daily and a negative ORP can be a indicator of the presence of dissolved hydrogen gas in water but it cannot accurately tell you how much you have in your water. Therefore, it's better to measure the H2 content or concentrations and disregard ORP.
This is basically what I say in the video.
Also, pools will have a positive ORP reading due to the added chlorine, which is a good thing.
@@H2MinuteswithTywonHubbard my pool has 7.2 Ph and -837 mv I don't know if the reading is wrong or not. Is this good for my pool or not? The temperature reading is 76.3
If I’m getting 450ppb / L is that worth it that’s the H2 value ?
Hello Springlift,
0.45 mg/L (ppm) of dissolved H2 in water is slightly under therapeutic concentrations of H2 in water (0.5~10 + mg/L (ppm)). However, if you consume 2.2 L (74 oz) of H2 water at that concentration you will ingest 1 mg of H2, which is a therapeutic dose based on the human studies.
Nonetheless, I would suggest considering another hydrogen water product or system that provides high-concentrated H2 water (1.6~5.0+ mg/L (ppm)). It will enable you to get a far better dose of H2/day.
Hirthe Lock
Is it safe to drink a higher Negative ORP value like -2000mv
Hello Alexis,
That is an extremely high ORP reading which makes me question if the ORP meter is calibrated properly or has an error within the system. Also, how is this water being produced? I assume it is water from a water ionizer (a form of H2 water). If so I would be very careful, in order to attain a reading that high assuming there is no errors or miscalibration which is highly unlikely, the pH of the water would be through the roof (extremely high, or dangerously high). Remember, when considering H2 water (and even others) pH is the primary driver in the ORP reading and H2 contributes very little to the reading. Personally, I would be concerned to consume water that measures that high. It could actually be caustic if the pH gets too high (13+ pH). If the water is produced by a water ionizer the pH should be 9.5 or lower and the H2 concentration should be 0.8 mg/L (ppm).
I hope this helps!
Thanks... so what is the ideal ORP reading for hydrogen water?
Of course there’s absolutely nothing online that’s accurate about any of this and every single video that you click on the people in the video say something different
Our videos are grounded in peer-reviewed scientific research and evidence, with all sources provided in the video description for your reference. This level of transparency and credibility is something that many other channels do not offer.
www.frontiersin.org/journals/food-science-and-technology/articles/10.3389/frfst.2022.1007001/full
www.mdpi.com/1422-0067/23/23/14750
@@H2MinuteswithTywonHubbard understood. I will do my research and look into your claims further . I do appreciate the effort because it is very hard to find anything of value with actual proof .
I’ve been doing water test at my house and the current water that I have been drinking has and orp of 150 . It’s been confusing to figure out if that is good or bad.
Through my own research, there are many things that make water a good water to drink not just the ORP
@@H2MinuteswithTywonHubbard if I’m understanding ORP correctly oxidizing water is dying or aging water . So I’m testing RP is it better to be negative positive or somewhere in between? 🤷♂️
So I read through your files and I was right it’s basically water that has no H2 dissolved molecules. Dead or dying water .
When frozen under a microscope, the dead water will not make a beautiful geometrical shape