The foundational platform (the Prime Directive -to quip a Star Trek phrase) for AI must be should be to protect and preserve people’s Constitutional rights. But can we trust an AI produced by Google, after they manipulated their search algorithms to skew the results? I find that very problematic.
There is intelligence and there is wisdom. If the AI is highly intelligent but not wise then that is a problem. What we really need is artificial wisdom AW.
Good discussion. Solutions to SM polarisation are urgently needed. My own view is that the world will be split into two intenet platforms - the www cannot house opposing regimes in it. As an acadrmic i see Gen Z grappling with reading anything longer than 2 pages of copy and writing skills in vertical descent giving way to video assessment. This is not without cost since writing and thinking strongly inform each other. My lightening rod for where AR/VR might take us is Japan. The rise of virtual partners, sex robots, 3D gaming and its impact on the psyche is extraordinarily depressing. A generation of infantalised, narcissists who don't even pursue basic evolutionary processes like reproduction is not something I can celebrste.
30 years ago we had a long list of issues that need to resolved for sentient AI (an algorithm is *not* AI). Today the list is many times longer. Are we closer to AI? Maybe, maybe it is 100 years away. Move onto to more near term concerns
John, what do you think of Private Activity Bonds (PAB) Private activity bonds are municipal bonds that are used to attract private investment for projects that have some public benefit; however, there are strict rules as to which projects qualify.
Something wrong with that ? The U S. and other western world countries have been mining and exploiting the so called third world countries for centuries ! At least the Chinese are paying for these resources !
What types of career would you guys recommend, for a 17 yr old? (In last year of high school) 😊 (or even for young people in general) Any suggestions are appreciated, as I have five sons, ages 17 - 25yrs, who are struggling to find their careers. My older boys want out of the service industry, but don’t know what to go to school for, and my younger boys are still unsure of their capabilities….They all don’t want to waste their time and money on schooling, that does NOT end with them being employed…. Thank you. ❤️😀
I honestly believe that some authoritarian countries will weaponise AI once they get the full scale and capacity of AI o control the world and perhaps it will destroy the world. I think for country who has git trees achievements probably need to come up strategies in terms of how to prevent these advance technology being used for evil purpose by some countries. From the academic level, perhaps what needs to be done is prevent the knowledge to be controlled by such countries, from the governmental level, certain policies need to impose to manage these technology well.
The shortage of truck drivers can be linked to the "forecasts" that truck driving jobs are going away. If a job has no future, then spending time learning to do it and getting all your licenses isn't a good investment. And truck driving is not a pleasant job unless you are compatible with the lifestyle. Now, if truck driving was lucrative and seen as something you did to get a nice "fortune" to pay for your next phase in life, such such as schooling, training, etc.
Mr. Schmidt is a man full of opinions, with very little evidentiary support for his fantastical musings. Far removed from functional reality, he seems.
So, maybe the proper advance will be not Ai learning, but AI teaching - as computers teach us to surpass our limitations as presented on the chess/go example.
Interesting conversation on how computers, machines and people. Are working together nowadays. And what the future will look like. I would prefer to look at this though. From another direction. We're sandwiched at the moment. Kind of between several generations. Who had operated in a 'modern age'. In the absence of the proliferation of electronic devices. On the scale that we now observe. And increasingly. Younger generations who are getting older. Inside of a world. In which modernity. Is something that is augmented. By the existence of electronics and machines. In huge proliferation and greater quantities.
Apart from all of the obvious applications. Of the ability to compute. To do more with mathematics. To sort of make mathematics do all kinds of things. That is like 'dancing'. Or starts to resemble some kind of behavior. Or dare I say it. Intelligence on some level. Apart from those applications. Of 'the science'. Or more accurately put 'the mathematics'. In the world in which. We exist in. There is something else about this. Which has deeper 'second order' effects. That are more subtle. And yet ultimately. More profound. In how we 'do things'.
What do I mean exactly by that? I mean that. I often found myself. Wedged between two different generations. I grew up and became an adult. In a time in which. Adults of a certain generation, or generation(s). Were intuitively cautious in the behavior. As human beings. Who functioned in society. And they functioned. In their daily work. In their professions. In their jobs. They were intuitively cautious is the best way I could describe it. Of being overly prescriptive. What do I mean by that? Someone such as General McMasters. Might relate. To what I am talking about. It refers to the idea. Of command and control. Of communications. Earlier generations were as precise in their instructions. As they needed to be. And no more.
This had all kinds. Of implications for doing one's job. It assumed that the small 'packet' of information that was sent. By whatever means. From one person who was 'doing their job'. And some recipient of that small packet of information. Who was expected in turn. To do something with that same packet. The characteristic of a certain age group of people (and all of those who came before them). Was that you did not. Elaborate on such instruction. Beyond a certain level of detail. In over words. What it assumed. Was the existence of what could be termed. The 'out line'. The outline was a packet of data. Which was issued from some location (and ultimately traceable by whatever means). Back to the same location. Yet, the packet in itself. Could be minimal. It was assumed in that world. You would add detail to it. At some later stage (and the individual who would add detail, was always another person).
Take a very simple example. A politician delivers an interview, statement or podium speech. It is left however, in sending 'news' of that. To a wider community of readers, listeners or viewers. That a different individual. Called a journalist. A report. Or a hack. Would fill in the details. To what was called. The out line. And that system worked. For a long time. You see it in all kinds of places. You see it in medicine. You see it in manufacturing. You see it in construction. The point being. That from the originator's point of view. You did not need. To over-elaborate. Upon the initial instruction. It was deemed good enough. And there were assumptions. That things would always be interpreted, elaborated upon or otherwise 'rendered'. In the process by which. This packet of information. Would work it's way. Throughout the system. That was the older model. Used by many generation (in a relatively 'modern' age). Of command and control. By which organization, and by which society. Could operate by.
I miss in person roundtables. This whole ..... online thing is annoying as hell. Yall talking shot about AI .... while you use it .... is hypocrisy at its finest. That's like my idiot city council using "telephonic representation" under the guise of a supermajority. It just ain't right. You can keep your multitrillion dollar telecom/ bigtek corporations thanks.
You had one job, Eric Schmidt. "Don't be evil." One Job!!!
the operative word for AI is "amoral"
The foundational platform (the Prime Directive -to quip a Star Trek phrase) for AI must be should be to protect and preserve people’s Constitutional rights. But can we trust an AI produced by Google, after they manipulated their search algorithms to skew the results? I find that very problematic.
even more so than usual, the best and most worthwhile thing I've listened to all week. Thanks Bill and Goodfellows !
I'm 55,.... I'm glad I'll be dead by the this AI world REALLY owns us all!!
There is intelligence and there is wisdom. If the AI is highly intelligent but not wise then that is a problem. What we really need is artificial wisdom AW.
Good discussion. Solutions to SM polarisation are urgently needed. My own view is that the world will be split into two intenet platforms - the www cannot house opposing regimes in it. As an acadrmic i see Gen Z grappling with reading anything longer than 2 pages of copy and writing skills in vertical descent giving way to video assessment. This is not without cost since writing and thinking strongly inform each other. My lightening rod for where AR/VR might take us is Japan. The rise of virtual partners, sex robots, 3D gaming and its impact on the psyche is extraordinarily depressing. A generation of infantalised, narcissists who don't even pursue basic evolutionary processes like reproduction is not something I can celebrste.
30 years ago we had a long list of issues that need to resolved for sentient AI (an algorithm is *not* AI). Today the list is many times longer. Are we closer to AI? Maybe, maybe it is 100 years away. Move onto to more near term concerns
When the Schmidt hit the fan. Great work E
John, what do you think of Private Activity Bonds (PAB)
Private activity bonds are municipal bonds that are used to attract private investment for projects that have some public benefit; however, there are strict rules as to which projects qualify.
China's top engineers were in Afghanistan on special visas in early November for investing in lithium and copper.
Something wrong with that ? The U S. and other western world countries have been mining and exploiting the so called third world countries for centuries ! At least the Chinese are paying for these resources !
I saw that news also. Hope our nation's leaders keep a close eye on those facts.
A triviality: the initials of the man who first wrote, 70 years ago, about the potential danger of AI to humans were IA.
This was a very interesting conversation. Thanks for uploading!
What types of career would you guys recommend, for a 17 yr old? (In last year of high school) 😊 (or even for young people in general)
Any suggestions are appreciated, as I have five sons, ages 17 - 25yrs, who are struggling to find their careers. My older boys want out of the service industry, but don’t know what to go to school for, and my younger boys are still unsure of their capabilities….They all don’t want to waste their time and money on schooling, that does NOT end with them being employed….
Thank you. ❤️😀
I honestly believe that some authoritarian countries will weaponise AI once they get the full scale and capacity of AI o control the world and perhaps it will destroy the world. I think for country who has git trees achievements probably need to come up strategies in terms of how to prevent these advance technology being used for evil purpose by some countries. From the academic level, perhaps what needs to be done is prevent the knowledge to be controlled by such countries, from the governmental level, certain policies need to impose to manage these technology well.
Great job by Cochrane to demystify and deflate the hype.
And how smart can AI be, if it can't explain how it arrives at its conclusions?
The shortage of truck drivers can be linked to the "forecasts" that truck driving jobs are going away. If a job has no future, then spending time learning to do it and getting all your licenses isn't a good investment. And truck driving is not a pleasant job unless you are compatible with the lifestyle. Now, if truck driving was lucrative and seen as something you did to get a nice "fortune" to pay for your next phase in life, such such as schooling, training, etc.
This is a superb discussion... thanks gents!
I like these three dudes chatting about everything.
Mr. Schmidt is a man full of opinions, with very little evidentiary support for his fantastical musings. Far removed from functional reality, he seems.
What do you mean? He mentions a few outlandish ideas, that he characterizes as speculation, which is perfectly acceptable.
He's a salesman.
He’s a shill for google. Act shocked since he probably owns millions of dollars in stock.
Just tremendous! How about in other aspects of human experience...poetry, music, the plastic arts? Will there be an AI aesthetic sense?
It's cute how Schmidt looks like he in his 50's.
"Chomsky Bots" = oh, no!!!
Another stellar conversation. Thank you!!
Amazingly informative!
At least Cochrane is giving us some hope.
Niall rocking a hoodie.
Soooooo Meta
Ai is very much "human intelligence" without the emotion. Humans are definitely responsible. This guy is dissembling.
"anti-vax cult" - Niall Ferguson
Perhaps the cyber identity is more important than the identity you have in the real world in the future!
So, maybe the proper advance will be not Ai learning, but AI teaching - as computers teach us to surpass our limitations as presented on the chess/go example.
Loss aversion. The story of my tennis career and why I lost to nerds.
This was a really good episode I really liked it
To Eric and to the Good Fellows.
Interesting conversation on how computers, machines and people. Are working together nowadays. And what the future will look like. I would prefer to look at this though. From another direction. We're sandwiched at the moment. Kind of between several generations. Who had operated in a 'modern age'. In the absence of the proliferation of electronic devices. On the scale that we now observe. And increasingly. Younger generations who are getting older. Inside of a world. In which modernity. Is something that is augmented. By the existence of electronics and machines. In huge proliferation and greater quantities.
Apart from all of the obvious applications. Of the ability to compute. To do more with mathematics. To sort of make mathematics do all kinds of things. That is like 'dancing'. Or starts to resemble some kind of behavior. Or dare I say it. Intelligence on some level. Apart from those applications. Of 'the science'. Or more accurately put 'the mathematics'. In the world in which. We exist in. There is something else about this. Which has deeper 'second order' effects. That are more subtle. And yet ultimately. More profound. In how we 'do things'.
What do I mean exactly by that? I mean that. I often found myself. Wedged between two different generations. I grew up and became an adult. In a time in which. Adults of a certain generation, or generation(s). Were intuitively cautious in the behavior. As human beings. Who functioned in society. And they functioned. In their daily work. In their professions. In their jobs. They were intuitively cautious is the best way I could describe it. Of being overly prescriptive. What do I mean by that? Someone such as General McMasters. Might relate. To what I am talking about. It refers to the idea. Of command and control. Of communications. Earlier generations were as precise in their instructions. As they needed to be. And no more.
This had all kinds. Of implications for doing one's job. It assumed that the small 'packet' of information that was sent. By whatever means. From one person who was 'doing their job'. And some recipient of that small packet of information. Who was expected in turn. To do something with that same packet. The characteristic of a certain age group of people (and all of those who came before them). Was that you did not. Elaborate on such instruction. Beyond a certain level of detail. In over words. What it assumed. Was the existence of what could be termed. The 'out line'. The outline was a packet of data. Which was issued from some location (and ultimately traceable by whatever means). Back to the same location. Yet, the packet in itself. Could be minimal. It was assumed in that world. You would add detail to it. At some later stage (and the individual who would add detail, was always another person).
Take a very simple example. A politician delivers an interview, statement or podium speech. It is left however, in sending 'news' of that. To a wider community of readers, listeners or viewers. That a different individual. Called a journalist. A report. Or a hack. Would fill in the details. To what was called. The out line. And that system worked. For a long time. You see it in all kinds of places. You see it in medicine. You see it in manufacturing. You see it in construction. The point being. That from the originator's point of view. You did not need. To over-elaborate. Upon the initial instruction. It was deemed good enough. And there were assumptions. That things would always be interpreted, elaborated upon or otherwise 'rendered'. In the process by which. This packet of information. Would work it's way. Throughout the system. That was the older model. Used by many generation (in a relatively 'modern' age). Of command and control. By which organization, and by which society. Could operate by.
"The Forbin Project." Science fiction is becoming fact.
That’s a loaded title.
Can AI compete with human cunning ?
An excellent conversation with a silly title
Woke is inner knowing / consciousness. Not mind ... TY all for this program. As all ways.
For the love of God can HER Masters get his eyebrows trimmed. It's killing my enjoyment of these videos
I miss in person roundtables. This whole ..... online thing is annoying as hell. Yall talking shot about AI .... while you use it .... is hypocrisy at its finest. That's like my idiot city council using "telephonic representation" under the guise of a supermajority. It just ain't right. You can keep your multitrillion dollar telecom/ bigtek corporations thanks.
One of the best Goodfellows ever. Eric was so succinct and insightful in everything he said.
Anonymity
Old people are badmouthing about new technology lol
I still want to hear Nial playing string bass! 🦚(that peacock has no relevance to my comment haha)