MASSIVE FEIXIAO NERF IN NEW V3 UPDATE!!? | Feixiao Updated Kit Changes | Honkai Star Rail

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  • @magnaortusars3342
    @magnaortusars3342 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +223

    To be fair, they nerfed the heck out of Acheron and we know how that turned out.

    • @ElijahBemot
      @ElijahBemot 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

      More of an adjustment than a huge nerf

    • @ABC-yj6cy
      @ABC-yj6cy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      Massive cope 😅

    • @giosenpaiz
      @giosenpaiz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      Wish yall thought like this about every other character that gets nerfed like Jiaoqui lol

    • @yamirellik5720
      @yamirellik5720 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      ​@@ABC-yj6cythen don't pull when it turns out she's op

    • @bennogb5069
      @bennogb5069 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      @@ABC-yj6cy she literally has better overall damage than V2 and can charge her ult wayy easier.

  • @monkeydluffy5054
    @monkeydluffy5054 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +60

    At this point you get used to characters getting nerfed

  • @GodofGoblins
    @GodofGoblins 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +122

    I always tell people. Dont pay attention to buffs or nerfs. Just look at the final product and judge then. For all we know, she will get nerfed again and still be a tier 0 busted character. Just wait and see. Dont worry about the testing process, worry about the final result

    • @ForTheViolence
      @ForTheViolence 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      Literally, because for some reason people are just not smart. Nerf = bad so the character is bad in their eyes. They are always worried about what could have been vs what it is.

    • @thelordofanime6150
      @thelordofanime6150 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      I pulled for whatever character I like. Yunli for example because I need a physical Dps. Same thing with Fei Xiao for her gameplay, now is she better than Acheron or Firefly? Don’t know and don’t care I pull for her anyway.

    • @ih8usernamezalot
      @ih8usernamezalot 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      she still fine af, i'm pulling

    • @brunobru7083
      @brunobru7083 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Tier 0 for 5 months, high base status and multipliers>auto buffs

    • @GodofGoblins
      @GodofGoblins 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@brunobru7083 gotta wait and see. And if a character is tier 0 for half a year, then becomes tier 1, that's pretty solid, especially for a f2p. But again, gotta wait and see. For all we know they will release tons of support specifically for feixiao for a year or something. We just gotta wait and see.

  • @emperman
    @emperman 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +51

    Honestly after acheron and super break you might as well dress shop in this game. Super break, especially being so unbelievably broken, makes me wonder why they bother nerfing the poor crit dps that need 88 fking crit rate to do consistent dmg. It makes 0 sense

    • @saberstiker19
      @saberstiker19 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Meanwhile break dps need, Ruan Mei, HMC, and that is it. Can clear all content, and do insane dmg

    • @tirworks7311
      @tirworks7311 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ye.. until that space pig with bakery appears

    • @MJAY552
      @MJAY552 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@saberstiker19 I'd actually take the restrictiveness over crit builds anytime and do insane dmg.

  • @Pachirisu2024
    @Pachirisu2024 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    I had perfect 5 crit up attack boots for her set the speed nerf hit me hard 😂

  • @shai310
    @shai310 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

    I highly doubt she'll remain nerfed. I think that Hoyo just want her not to be just reliant on her ult for damage and want to make her the main hypercarry for fua team, not to mention that with Hunt March being so good for fua teams and Moze probably being a featured character in her banner I do think she'll preform well in the end.
    I guess we'll have to wait for the final release because things are always subject to change but for me I don't mind the fact she's being changed to be more reliant on fua.
    Let's not forget that even though Aventurine and Topaz are limited characters March, Moze, Gallagher and later on Lingsha could be really great options for her as well. We also don't know how long it'll take until Topaz will have her banner again so it's important to have at least someone like March or Moze fill that role.

    • @theghastlygamerz999
      @theghastlygamerz999 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      i dont even see this as a nerf. this is honestly a good change to her kit since she gets DMG buffs despite losing some multipliers. Not to mention you do end up getting more FUA per turn. She also doesnt need to rely on other FUA characters anymore and can just run as a hypercarry with bronya and robin alongside a sustain like Aventurine or Gallagher. So her ULT will now deal even more damage if you align it with bronya's buffs.

    • @hentikirby7142
      @hentikirby7142 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Being more stronger in fua would help her out a lot. Having an ult that can 1 shot is cool, but when you have to kill 2-3 big hp bar monster, then it starts becoming a problem.

    • @shai310
      @shai310 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@theghastlygamerz999 I think having at least one fua unit is going to be the most optimal way to play her since it does really matter with her ult stacks.
      I think once Lingsha will be released I can see a team of Feixiao, Robin/Bronya, Moze/March/Topaz and Lingsha/Aventurine being really great with her.
      Besides, people tend to forget that we have Acheron who can get to her ult much quicker even with a sub optimal team and can do an insane amount of damage anyway, so if Feixiao was reliant on her ult she'd have to compete with Acheron which isn't easy to do.

    • @theghastlygamerz999
      @theghastlygamerz999 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@shai310 the ult stacks with a fua unit and on a hypercarry bronya robin team is almost the same lol. Plus she's not exactly acheron in terms of dmg per screenshot when you dont hyper buff her. With a moze and robin, youre basically looking at a 200-300k ult which is basically nothing. Even ratio can atleast do more damage with his ult + fua

    • @LuminousChameleon
      @LuminousChameleon 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I reall hope so, but honestly I feel like its not really about nerfs or not, we'll have to see how she ends up in general in terms of when she's released. Even still, her kit does not incoorperate follow attacks as the main focus, well it does, but she doesn't use her follow up attacks consistently enough for them to be worth investing in as her main source of damage, so IMO this a bad route for Hoyo to go for, but whatever happens, I just hope these work out to become changes instead of nerfs overall, meaning that she's still as strong as she was originally intended to be, even with a different kit.

  • @scopeyui240
    @scopeyui240 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    hope they buff JQ last minute like qingyi

    • @lierfox8568
      @lierfox8568 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Who?

    • @FlyingTacticianMorgan
      @FlyingTacticianMorgan 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Jiaoqiu

    • @lierfox8568
      @lierfox8568 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@FlyingTacticianMorgan I meant who's qingyi

    • @EashRain0133
      @EashRain0133 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@lierfox8568 the new char in zzz

  • @warden3968
    @warden3968 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    So she went from an Acheron to a follow up damage dealer…

  • @nadeenasnake
    @nadeenasnake 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    Bruh she's already Hunt which is a negative on itself, nerfing her even further is so crazy...

    • @voidevoker44
      @voidevoker44 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hunt > Destruction in AS and MoC

    • @nadeenasnake
      @nadeenasnake 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      @@voidevoker44 yeah say that again to Firefly

    • @horus777
      @horus777 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Say that to my "baby~" yelling Boothill !

    • @kaete_7
      @kaete_7 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hunt is better in AS and hunt esp destruction is better in moch but hunt still good​@@voidevoker44

    • @Gurenn83
      @Gurenn83 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      ​@@voidevoker44That is massive cope! I always use Destruction 5 stars and I never had any issues clearing any content. Still nice cope there. 😆

  • @Aemothkas
    @Aemothkas 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    If they keep nerfing her I’m done and just skipping for Sunday

    • @EnjoyGengar
      @EnjoyGengar 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Same seems like an ez skip.

  • @quack7853
    @quack7853 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    cant wait for our 3rd 5 star foxian to get constant nerf before release (5 star tingyun)

  • @laight_tainted
    @laight_tainted 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I honestly like the changes more since she makes my sparkle more viable for her compared to the previous kit. Coz now, her dmg is more well-rounded and not just ult-centric so actually advancing her forward would really benefit with regards to launching more follow up attack. Basically buffing aventurine passive stacks, march passive stacks and making sparkle more open. Win team for me as someone who skipped robin and topaz

  • @MG-ko9rr
    @MG-ko9rr 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I had high hope for this unit, now I just lost almost complete interest on it, Hoyo fr just kills the vibes sometimes

    • @KiraYoshikage-22
      @KiraYoshikage-22 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Don't look at leaks and these characters will be amazing at launch

    • @gasteriamod415
      @gasteriamod415 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      she does 10% more dmg than in the prev version

    • @vermilion6966
      @vermilion6966 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      wait until her release, let people test her for a week or two and only then decide.
      Nothing else matters

    • @Raidenmommy89
      @Raidenmommy89 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@gasteriamod415on e0 sure om e2 no she's been nerfed

    • @gasteriamod415
      @gasteriamod415 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Raidenmommy89 thats better tho? 95% of players are just gonna pull e0 and s1 at best

  • @sofy8497
    @sofy8497 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Ну, в резільтаті вона стала навіть сильніше, тому я не розумію звідки стільки коментів про нерф. Плюс на ній стало набагато комфортніше грати. На минулій беті сумнівалася чи варто її крутити, але тепер, якщо її серйозно не змінять, буду 100% забирати

  • @meso3564
    @meso3564 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    She does as much dmg as before, but she's less reliant on Robin and lost half her fun with this 6 stacks ult.

  • @somedude8435
    @somedude8435 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Personally I want them to add a third button while Fei is ulting. The third button can only be used when Fei already consumed 6 stacks minimum. This means we can control how many stacks will be consumed. For example, if you have 12 stacks but you only want to use 8 stacks, then you press the third button after using 8 stacks to do the ult finisher. If you want to use 6 stacks for double ulting (for 4 eagle set), then you can press the third button immediately after using 6 stacks.

    • @Valviant
      @Valviant 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They actually changed how her ult stack work now. You now only do 6 attacks and then finish her ult instead of dropping all the ult points, instead putting them in reserve for your next ult (like Argenti ult, but not really). They rectified it by increase her dmg per hit but I’m still sad I can’t use all of the points and nuke the enemies with 1 Feixiaollion damage

  • @FourEyesGod
    @FourEyesGod 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Still saving for her!! I NEED HER.

    • @reviwer854
      @reviwer854 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Good Luck kkk

    • @notyouraveragecow2101
      @notyouraveragecow2101 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      why?

    • @yamirellik5720
      @yamirellik5720 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Cuz he likes her​@@notyouraveragecow2101

    • @zowie.nvermind
      @zowie.nvermind 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Famous last words

    • @AIA222-yu5ml
      @AIA222-yu5ml 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@notyouraveragecow2101 she looks cool, she has Moze on her banner, I need a wind unit, I have Robin, I'll pull Jiaoqiu so might as well pull all three of the Yaoqing trio.

  • @NightIceWolf12
    @NightIceWolf12 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So, pull for her regardless of the cost. Got it. She sounds so broken and good. Which is nice since as a more recent player it is nice to have access to a really good character like Feixiao since I missed the other strong damage dealers. I only started playing during the Jade/Argenti banner.

  • @_a.a.a_8895
    @_a.a.a_8895 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I dont care about nerf and buff for the fox lady. WHY THEY CHANGE LIGHTCORE TO MAKE IT GOOD ONLY AT HER

    • @EnjoyGengar
      @EnjoyGengar 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      because its fuking busted

  • @Mondo0909
    @Mondo0909 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Her final kit will determine if I grab Jiaoqui

  • @Iudd_
    @Iudd_ 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Overall her damage output is still higher than what it was before, it was merely adjusted so she could be more consistent with her damage
    This video is overall misinfo
    These changes make me like her gameplay less than before and I am really sad they nerfed her overall spd by 18 HOWEVER it's overall an buff and not a nerf.

    • @BaoDam69Kaka
      @BaoDam69Kaka 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Still a neft in Robin Mar7 team, in old ver that team stronger ~8% when compare with new ver.

  • @NullZ3r0
    @NullZ3r0 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I personally think that killing the character, the change to her basic ability is good, but the rest, the speed nerf, and specifically the ultimate nerf, at least for me transform her from an interesting and fun character, to a slightly improved dr ratio, this is my personal opinion

  • @Ultima1134
    @Ultima1134 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    COME ON! She's literally the only one i was excited for from the next two patches

  • @artyourself-qz9pv
    @artyourself-qz9pv 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    SPD gone is just sad

  • @sanbearuwu
    @sanbearuwu 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    The nerfs dont even seem that bad tbh.Everyone was pissing and shitting over firefly's final changed but she turned out to be one of the best characters in the game

    • @soeharjojoe3340
      @soeharjojoe3340 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      actually FF changed is really good, more focus on break mechanic, early kit is mixed between crit and break and for me thats bad because its gonna tiring when farming relics to get break, spd, crt rate, and cdmg in every relic. this feixiao more adjustment then nerf in my opinion. ultimate scaling got nerf but talent do amp the ultimate damage. for me, the only problem and question is, how easy/hard to get ultimate stack.

    • @m4y013
      @m4y013 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@soeharjojoe3340people mainly hate the later changes on her speed increase and overall atk decrease from her a2 passive but they forget that she does a 200k damage on skill even after the changes

    • @ahem6679
      @ahem6679 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Firefly has been gated by the nerfs she will never hit million damage because she has a cap on BE but it's fair even gallagher does 200k on firefly meta team

    • @jeaha2656
      @jeaha2656 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If it’s really DEF on her traces rather than spd/atk/crit what are they thinking it’s a damage unit not a preservation unit 🤡

    • @flaria185
      @flaria185 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@ahem6679 the only cap on be is skill's own damage. Superbreak doesnt have a cap so it rarely matters

  • @sathoon5973
    @sathoon5973 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Old Feixiao being the fastest unit in the game before relic boosts AND her E2 making 12 ultimate stacks easily attainable would have made for a pretty busted unit, and these changes are not surprising. She will still rip & tear for accounts clearing stages 1-3 for MoC / AS, and accounts clearing stage 4 probably already have the 5* units to make her pop off.

  • @JackieJackJackerJacky
    @JackieJackJackerJacky 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I really wish they'd buff her speed back. Maybe not 125 again but at least make her faster than Seele and Hanya. Also the way her old Ult works was so much cooler

    • @ououwewe
      @ououwewe 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What's the difference with the new one?

    • @nannda5854
      @nannda5854 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      i feel like the reason they change feixiao ult mechanic is because they dont know how to make the last hit more efficient,
      before the change you will save up the remaining stack when enemy die but the last hit will be useless cause the enemy already die.

    • @allesteramm9985
      @allesteramm9985 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​​@@nannda5854Finally!! someone says this..

    • @flaria185
      @flaria185 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@ououwewe before she can use ult at any stack above 6 and the hits you can do depends on how much stack you have (max 12) and if enemy dies before you use all hits, you keep the rest (max 6)
      New ult can only use 6 stacks. So you can use her ult back to back while also having the final hit twice instead of just once

  • @adamcobb7892
    @adamcobb7892 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm leaning towards grabbing the Nihility dude... It's a hard choice but his vulnerability is a future proof type kit. He will be used for another yr or so in teams I can feel it lol. This gal is awesome but a DPS. DPSs are the biggest turn over chars.

  • @Sakamoto_1535E3
    @Sakamoto_1535E3 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Nah. 2 patches, skip. Another mid general, and obviously not worth my jades. I already have Ratio for my IPC FUA team, and my Break Hunt M7th is enough for that Hoolay. Am not gonna waste my jades on a non-universal unit anymore. Not again.

    • @yamirellik5720
      @yamirellik5720 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thinking the same thing I have dr ratio e1s1 topaz and adventurine but lost the 50/50 on robin might just wait for her

    • @Sakamoto_1535E3
      @Sakamoto_1535E3 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@yamirellik5720 You might actually just wait for Robin rather than pulling for Fei in that case

    • @leniwabua9215
      @leniwabua9215 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think that Fei will be much beter with topaz then dr.ratio becouse of how much more fua she dose then dr.ratio + you don’t have to wory about debufs if you have robin. I know topaz and adventurine make these but i think this is not enought. Sory for gramar

    • @orangenoob2768
      @orangenoob2768 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Wtf do you even mean by non-universal unit? Feixiao can reduce toughness regardless of weakness type and has 100% weakness break efficiency. She's way more universal than your copium Ratio.

    • @brisenocturne1441
      @brisenocturne1441 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@orangenoob2768 let them. they are r-worded.

  • @Andrei-te1pk
    @Andrei-te1pk 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    he feels so much better to play now with this changes, the only nerf in my book is the speed nerf, thats it

  • @voidevoker44
    @voidevoker44 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    Your titles are pretty misleading even for a clickbait.
    Her calcs show 10% increase in DPAV.
    1)Sure her SPD got nerfed but she got a 48% atk bonus in exchange which can help you run SPD boots on her.
    2) Her ult got nerfed from 840% on 6 stacks to 700% on 6 stacks but you forget that she gets 60 % dmg bonus with a pretty good uptime.
    Also earlier if you launched ult on 6 stacks you used to get(6 × 12 = 72% dmg but now its fixed at 160%.
    3) She now does 2 FuA( 1 from her talent and 1 from Skill). So even if the multiplier was nerfed from 200 to 110 - you do it twice.
    Next time please do research - there are lots of theorycrafters who are saying she got a buff on reddit.
    The ones that saying she got a nerf are people who skipped topaz, aventurine and robin and are still coping to run her in a hypercarry comp when they fail to unferstand the purpose of FuA.

    • @imdmar4914
      @imdmar4914 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Let hime cook

    • @Mrighty0404
      @Mrighty0404 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      It's still a nerf in my opinion, trading multipliers for self buffs is not a good idea because it will lead to her being powercrept easier

    • @TrailblazerNews
      @TrailblazerNews  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      You should watch the whole video before writing a long comment. I literally explain all the reasons why I consider it a nerf. It isn't just about the Damage.

    • @ajpholbert7897
      @ajpholbert7897 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@TrailblazerNewsyou tell him trailblazer news!!

    • @AmingoSuS
      @AmingoSuS 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Buff? I dunno from my testing on a private server i used the same team with same relics and everything, and v3 was doing much less dmg, before i was using fei, march, ruan and galla, but now i had to swap march for moze to get back the lost dmg

  • @TheChaosyami
    @TheChaosyami 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    They're actually nerfing a woman???

    • @The_CodFish69
      @The_CodFish69 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Well if your not getting E2 it’s a buff actually

  • @Onii-Chan-UwU
    @Onii-Chan-UwU 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Well if she is unplayable with sparky and bronya.... No point investijg on a unit who wont work unless i get topaz whom i dont consider pulling at all.. feixiao will be a skip then . Rather focus in destruction units instead...😂😂😂😂... Hunt was nwver my time either way

    • @-Anubhav__S
      @-Anubhav__S 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      she can't pe played with sparkle?? i was hoping to pull her for feixiao

    • @Onii-Chan-UwU
      @Onii-Chan-UwU 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@-Anubhav__S she can be but she wont get stacks as much as possible.. currently say with acheron with every debuff a teammate does gives one stack for her ult.. but for feixiao every 2 attacks teammate does she gains 1 stack for ult.. meaning you need like a lot of atk from your team consistently only then she gains a stacks for her ult... they made her premium FOLLOW UP DPS .. the only FUA i have is ratio and i dont think im going for Topaz.. if you have topaz u can run her along with sparky but her stacks will still be low... her dmg other than ult is not ground breaking... so she is super nische currently... best team would be full FUA squad TOPAZ RATIO ROBIN ADVENTURINE AND LASTLY LINGSHA.. bahut zyada likh dia .. lets see if she gets buff

    • @gasteriamod415
      @gasteriamod415 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      sparkle and bronya will provide more dmg than march but you will get slightly less stacks

    • @Onii-Chan-UwU
      @Onii-Chan-UwU 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@gasteriamod415 I might be skipping her coz I need Robin and she might appear 😔.so..

  • @olivierdamacena4450
    @olivierdamacena4450 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Damn, the midcheon mains cried so much that miyoho broke her legs, geez

  • @imdmar4914
    @imdmar4914 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I am skipping anway 😂

    • @imdmar4914
      @imdmar4914 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I pulled a wind character (blade) and they did him dirty I am not planning to do it again

    • @AnaPaula-kt1oi
      @AnaPaula-kt1oi 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@imdmar4914 pull for sparkle e6, she will make anything work

  • @hvcskmagyar
    @hvcskmagyar 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Yeeeaahhh, i think i just get robin or 5* tingyun, feixiao just looks like an acheron just a solo target (basicly weaker)

  • @Raeodor
    @Raeodor หลายเดือนก่อน

    But I see people hitting 12 times during her ult. How do you do that?

  • @smokahontasinvictus8112
    @smokahontasinvictus8112 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I wont be pulling for her now I have no followup attack team supports it would be A Waste.

  • @madt.6723
    @madt.6723 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    they dont want to repeat the neuvillette incident, powercreep controls probably. at least I finally found a reason to skip her

    • @nannda5854
      @nannda5854 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      why theres genshin in these comment LMAO

  • @SMZahin-bb3gx
    @SMZahin-bb3gx 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Popular characters (i.e. Acheron, Firefly, Feixiao) before release : they nerfed her in the beta, she is cooked.
    Popular characters after release: She is broken, she breaks the game, she's the new meta.

  • @revivedkyoumahououin1585
    @revivedkyoumahououin1585 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Saving for 5* ting yuan became a lot easier

  • @yessirrissey
    @yessirrissey 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    IMPORTANT: for the people who are saying its a ''10% Buff" and are blindly following what these nerdy redittors say, STOP!!! These changes are ONLY a ''10% Buff'' if you have these units: ''Topaz'', ''Aventurine'', ''Moze'', and ''MarchTheHunt'', but now without these units, its a VERY significant nerf! now units like: ''Bronya'', ''Sparkle'', ''Ruan mei'', and ''robin'' (debatable), are much worse with feixiao! these new changes are trying to make feixiao more restricted to FuA, and these nerdy redditors arent giving people the full context of how they got that so called ''10% Buff''
    In conclusion! this is a very SIGNIFICANT NERF! argue or cope, i dont care, being a universal DPS is way more important and better for EVERY player in the game, then a DPS whos stuck with 1 team even tho thats where the game direction is going.
    (Like this comment so people can be informed!!! also thank you to @Noaxid for also being informed and spreading the right information!)

    • @Meow_meow_nee
      @Meow_meow_nee 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I hope you say the same thing about units like Acheron and Firefly since they are not flexible with their teams either (arguably even more so restricted than Feixiao). If you don’t, then it would be a little bit hypocritical, wouldn’t it?

    • @invertbrid
      @invertbrid 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@Meow_meow_neeIkr lol. Wish op complain on acheron and firefly too coz they are meh outside their BiS team, prob even more than feixiao, especially firefly.

    • @bon4417
      @bon4417 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@invertbrid Consider the fact Firefly only needs 1 limited unit outside of herself (Ruan Mei) making her Best in Slot team hella cheap compared to Feixiao's 3/4th Limited unit team if you run March 7th Hunt, and a full on limited team if you run her with Topaz Robin and Aventurine
      For Acheron I suppose they're equally as expensive since the only reasonable alternative for DoT team Acheron is Silverwolf + Pela combo on her + a sustain which is preferrably Aventurine for her

    • @yessirrissey
      @yessirrissey 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Meow_meow_nee That is a reasonable argument, it is indeed true for firefly, as she’s HEAVILY restricted to HMC and RM to be good, but that doesn’t go for Acheron, firefly and Feixiao need specific teammates/teamcomps meanwhile Acheron just needs any debuffers, Acheron is extremely flexible, as she’s able to be ran with any nihility unit in the game and any harmony unit in the game, and still preform extremely well, so I see your point on firefly, but not Acheron since she is NOT restricted, especially with someone like JQ coming to make her even more stronger and flexible

    • @Meow_meow_nee
      @Meow_meow_nee 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@yessirrissey Weird argument you have there considering that Acheron is restricted in terms of team comps just as much as Feixiao will be. Feixiao works with both follow up attack team and break team, two completely different set of characters to choose from. And yes, we could argue that she’s not as good in break team as she is in follow up team. Same as Acheron outside of her bis team, you would agree.
      The argument of “any nihility” working with Acheron is good enough, but then your comment concerning March 7th and Moze doesn’t make sense here. Because first one is free unit for both fua and break team for Feixiao and second one is a 4 star. And both of them are not her best in slot. While in Acheron teams you should have Pela (who is fine), Silver Wolf, Kafka or Black Swan. Three of them are 5 stars and other nihility characters are just mediocre in practice.
      Your point about “works with every Harmony” doesn’t make a lot of sense either sadly. Due to Acheron’s own restrictions to work with TWO nihility characters leaving one slot for sustain there just to stay alive. Bringing up E2 is not a good argument, the dependence on eidolons just to use a buffer in your team is in itself a restriction.
      So your overall argument of Feixiao not being flexible in her teams even though she’s the same as Acheron is a little bit hypocritical after all.

  • @colgado693
    @colgado693 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Her AF not very useful overall?? What are you talking about? Her base speed (125 ×5) plus always skill spamming puts her at an effective speed of 143 the entire match after her first skill with 0 speed stats and attack boots. The 143 speed threshold is an important one. They killed her speed.

  • @ello-9e7
    @ello-9e7 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So overall, is she cooked? Do i warp for someone else?

  • @jacquelynthompson5346
    @jacquelynthompson5346 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So her best in slot artifacts are gonna be different now, gahhhhhh

  • @susano97
    @susano97 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    A very hugh nerf

  • @OdoKadachi
    @OdoKadachi 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    IF and only IF she is not on par with acheron... Ill end going for her (Acheron) e2 honestly, mine is e0s1 currently, and still I won't get Jiaoqiu, but Aventurine still looking very interesting for my account, my SW, E6 Pela and E4 (sad) welt can make it work very well already, meanwhile my firefly will handle the other side very well

    • @marshscarf7467
      @marshscarf7467 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Aventurine is very good, can attest to that and is a big upgrade for Acheron teams at e2

    • @OdoKadachi
      @OdoKadachi 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@marshscarf7467 Thanks for the heads up! I do have Fu Xuan but my other sustain is sadly Luocha, so Aventurine would surely take his place, does he need the LC to be used with E2 acheron?

    • @FD-wl7xq
      @FD-wl7xq 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      From the post nerf gameplay I’ve seen.Acheron E2 is so much better.Feixiao now does barely any dmg and that’s sad

    • @hentikirby7142
      @hentikirby7142 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      U will need that lc for avent tho for the stack ofc. Once you get e2 acheron. I don't think you'd even need Jiao. I have my acheron at e2 rn and she can get her ult up quick, like crazy quick. 1 e equal 3 stacks and with my sparkle advancing her again, that's 2/3 of an ult within 2 units action.

    • @OdoKadachi
      @OdoKadachi 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@hentikirby7142 damn that will be very nice, although I don't have sparkle, but Im not pulling her because Im gonna use Robin, I think itll be a decent team as well

  • @horus777
    @horus777 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My main dps teams are done (BOOTHILL, Firefly, Jingliu)...so all I need are harmony and nihility - Black Swan will be really good for my Kafka team considering her attacks and def. shread.

  • @shynol1996
    @shynol1996 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    iknew they gonna nerf feixiao and even tho i still not pulling her anyway cuz im already cook with acheron and firefly ! but good luck for everyone out there if you dont care that she got nerf !

  • @nannda5854
    @nannda5854 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    now feixiao need SPD boots instead of ATK right?

  • @Kriss.S.V
    @Kriss.S.V 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Insane nerf

  • @JohnSmith99048
    @JohnSmith99048 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Somebody knows when v4 will come up?

  • @AxeWieldingOctopus
    @AxeWieldingOctopus 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Still pulling 😎

  • @skepticalsky8235
    @skepticalsky8235 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Maybe I go for yunli after all

    • @lowkeybrock6521
      @lowkeybrock6521 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      She’s still gonna be good with the right team

    • @yamirellik5720
      @yamirellik5720 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lost my 50/50 😢

    • @yankubaantell7842
      @yankubaantell7842 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@yamirellik5720 RIP bozo. Better luck next time buddy.

  • @noahwhite2929
    @noahwhite2929 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    lmao yo what? fuck those def traces. Wind characters in general just aren't allowed to be good ig. And "General" characters? Oh, the horror that'd be if they were.
    Huh...maybe the nerf the dps's so that the six supports released later have inflated apparent value, like "WOW look what this character can do with their balls getting gargled by this harmony unit! Pretty cool, right?"(It's just 90% the character's original damage before nerfs) All jokes aside, I'm genuinely suspecting as much. They can only stack so much hp on enemies in this game

    • @GermanPilyan2
      @GermanPilyan2 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's how it is with Acheron and Jaiquio, Without her Signature she is pure shit in most content because she takes forever to ult, but guess what the fox guy fixes her issue even though they could've made slight adjustments to her kit, even black swan could've done the same as him but I think they restricted arcana to not give acheron stacks on the enemies turn

    • @noahwhite2929
      @noahwhite2929 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@GermanPilyan2 Yeah-I'm sticking with silver wolf both because I love the character, and out of spite. Real cool they made a whole ass patch character for Acheron, but I'll pass on the slice of potato bread with hot sauce dashed on it. Sincerely.

    • @GermanPilyan2
      @GermanPilyan2 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@noahwhite2929 I mainly wanted to Pull Feixiao since she was a nuke and much less wasteful with her stacks, now that she's more of a ratio sidegrade I think I'll have to skip since I haven't really been a fan of her character up until now

  • @victornunes1686
    @victornunes1686 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hmm i have topaz and robin and i want aventurine so i will get her anyway but i was going for e2 now maybe only e1s1

  • @ibnalislam5141
    @ibnalislam5141 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Firstly, her nerfs isn't big in terms of total damage calculation per turn. Secondly, they covered her nerfs with insane huge buff for Moze whose going to be her Ruan mei and Jiao. In the end this changes is so good and much more fun for both Moze and Fei.

    • @-Anubhav__S
      @-Anubhav__S 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      hey please help me build my team -
      i am thinking of running fei with following units , select one
      -march7/ moze ( don't have topaz )
      -Gallagher/ lingsha ( don't have adventurine )
      -sparle i have to pull her in next rerun in 10 days ( don't have robin ) or should i wait for robin rerun
      or should i not go for fei if i don't have her premium team
      please do help .

    • @invertbrid
      @invertbrid 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@-Anubhav__Srobin I'd say. U can use either march or moze, not sure atm which one better.
      Either Gallagher or lingsha are fine too, lingsha better coz FuS helps fei stack, but Gallagher with multiplication works too if u are not using him for FF.

  • @ShineEdgateAshton14
    @ShineEdgateAshton14 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Might as well stay npc than

  • @mhaky03
    @mhaky03 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is this the last beta update?

  • @edward-gh7gq
    @edward-gh7gq 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    She was fine before

  • @Resh-3221
    @Resh-3221 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    if they revert the speed and trace nerf, revert the ult. i'd be fine.
    its less reliant on E2, and with the buff to mose its not gonna be that hard to get ult.
    I get why they nerfed the damage, people say they actually buffed it by ~10% but cmon hoyo, lemme do all 12 stacks not just 6. I wanna see big numbers.

    • @gasteriamod415
      @gasteriamod415 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      yeah the ult change makes the ult not as cool ngl

  • @AliceAngel66698
    @AliceAngel66698 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think hoyo hate foxians the first one is 💀 the other one sucks the other one also sucks and this one is going to suck in the future 😢

    • @yankubaantell7842
      @yankubaantell7842 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I've heard a very recent "dream" that Ting-yun might not be completely gone quite yet...look forward to 2.6-3.0? (depending if Hoyo dosent change the order of Sundays release like how they did with SAM/Firefly).

  • @ThatoneBirdIdk
    @ThatoneBirdIdk 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’m definitely getting her. What’s her best team? My rooster are of build character are
    Robin with her f2p BIS Ruan Mei with her signature LC sparkle with signature LC pela March 7th the hunt with Dan heng LC
    tingyun (f2p btw)

    • @kevinstadre
      @kevinstadre 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      best team prob robin topaz aventurine

    • @ThatoneBirdIdk
      @ThatoneBirdIdk 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kevinstadre I don’t have topaz is March 7th hunt good replacement or Ruan Mei

    • @scorpion-qk7rr
      @scorpion-qk7rr 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@ThatoneBirdIdk then you should get moze, he can replace topaz.

    • @ThatoneBirdIdk
      @ThatoneBirdIdk 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@scorpion-qk7rr forget Moze I have March 7th hunt she is topaz Ruan Mei sparkle in one what makes Moze better the March 7th the hunt?

    • @trungduyphan3269
      @trungduyphan3269 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ThatoneBirdIdkmoze is literally topaz 4*, of course he need e6 or at least e2 to be functional but if you can get him at least e2 above, he’s a mile better than march 7th

  • @luanzisseable
    @luanzisseable 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    For f2p (e0) huge buff!
    For nasty players (e2) huge nerf

  • @lejaronbames8569
    @lejaronbames8569 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Stop spreading misinformation, everyone keeps doomposting even tho TC's already confirmed that it's a 10% buff overall, only her hypercarry comp and E2 got significantly nerfed. Hoyo prob wants her to be played in FUA and the damage isn't all in the ult now although the 6 stacks thing can make things worse in some situations. While it's still not the buff everyone is hoping for, calling it a massive nerf is such a stretch. If you were planning on pulling for her before this shouldn't change your mind unless you wanted to play her as a hyper carry.

    • @Noaxid
      @Noaxid 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      This is only a buff if you use premium fua team tho now you can't use her with anything else beside this team if you want to maximized her potential ( even more than acheron team imo ) . In v2 she was totally fine with a lot of team ... it is a nerf overall but their is merit and demerit for sure . They more or less block her teammates choice , i don't like this kind of change , they pretty much say '' you need to play her like this and nothing else '' having multiple build is what make a turn based rpg fun because let's be real spamming the same team over and over again isn't fun

    • @lejaronbames8569
      @lejaronbames8569 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @Noaxid That's a fair argument. I also think that flexibility and multiple team builds is what makes the game fun, but to my point there are a lot of people that only care about max performance and premium teams especially all those people going for E2 Acheron rather than pulling for other chars to open up new playstyles.

    • @HiryuIIIV
      @HiryuIIIV 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Except with an ult like that and how her kit is: why would hypercarry not be an option for her? This new version isn't just simply a 10% buff, no. It's an overall restriction increase to who she can run with.
      Now it's basically Robin + Topaz (Premium), or March 7 + Moz (Budget). Such hot garbage, because the former are two premium units and the latter two only exist for her and her alone.
      There is NOTHING wrong with a character being flexible. Closing options just tells the playerbase you want them to spend money and not have fun with what they have.
      At this point I absolutely cannot justify going for her anymore, even though I need a wind typing dps (I have none), but because I decided not to go for Topaz or Robin...there's nothing for it. Moze will probably only be a suitable option at E6, and I don't have any interest in M7.
      Ultimately, pun intended, this is a nerf to her teams, and that's a bigger negative impact than just adjustment of values. Hoyo can dictate what they want her to do, but they can't not catch flak when its done in such a blatantly hamfisted way. I will not run FUA, I don't have the key units for it, so I guess that means me and players like me are out of luck huh?

    • @rhyned
      @rhyned 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      To me fei xiao is nerfed not because of damage, but the team composition is now more limited to FuA team.

    • @-Anubhav__S
      @-Anubhav__S 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@HiryuIIIVhey please help me build my team -
      i am thinking of running fei with following units , select one
      -march7/ moze ( don't have topaz )
      -Gallagher/ lingsha ( don't have adventurine )
      -sparle i have to pull her in next rerun in 10 days ( don't have robin ) or should i wait for robin rerun
      or should i not pull for her as I don't her premium team
      please do help

  • @saltyismymiddlename97
    @saltyismymiddlename97 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm happy with her kit now that her eiodlons doesn't pushing ppl for e2. Now she actually look like real FUA carry with faster stack.
    Maybe change def trace to spd +10

    • @gasteriamod415
      @gasteriamod415 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      she would be the first character in the game that gets 10 spd from traces 5 is the what they usually give

  • @dagewastaken7236
    @dagewastaken7236 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I never understood why they nerfed Feixiao's E2 when she wasn't even stronger than FF or Acheron.
    Like what the hell

  • @Acheron_Dementia
    @Acheron_Dementia 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    They just want to kill off honkai star rail for zzz another down patch now

    • @d7ma9a57
      @d7ma9a57 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Bro what are you talking about there is still a fate collab at q3 2025

  • @sampoison9166
    @sampoison9166 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    She is not him
    skip

  • @Akaihimes-subordinate
    @Akaihimes-subordinate 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    She's not cooked, she's gonna be just fine. XD
    Don't forget, this was beta testing and they realized what she had would've made her way to broken and having a unit this ridiculous in power would keep people from pulling future banners because it leaves the question "Why bother? I have this powerhouse!"
    I think she's still gonna be awesome!

  • @lowkeybrock6521
    @lowkeybrock6521 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Is it still worth the pull ??

    • @VerbosePX
      @VerbosePX 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes, if you have a FuA team ready (preferably with Robin but we have March 7th and her banner will have Moze)
      Then it also depends on the rest of your roster : if you have both Acheron and Firefly/Boothill teams, you can afford to take your time before deciding !

    • @lowkeybrock6521
      @lowkeybrock6521 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@VerbosePX I’m new but I’m not a gatcha noob I’m prepared to get robin when she drops and I have Marth 7th so she will be my first 5 star

    • @yamirellik5720
      @yamirellik5720 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@VerbosePX I have everything apart from robin what do u think I should do?

    • @yamirellik5720
      @yamirellik5720 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @Smw.9K but robin will probably come back 2-3 patches after feixiao don't think I can save tell then

    • @kevinstadre
      @kevinstadre 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      if ur new DO NOT get her

  • @gasteriamod415
    @gasteriamod415 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    this was a buff she does around 10% better

  • @HealthXPotions
    @HealthXPotions 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    it isn't even a nerf tho

    • @marshscarf7467
      @marshscarf7467 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      they nerfed the speed tho

    • @HealthXPotions
      @HealthXPotions 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@marshscarf7467 keep yappin speed boots are great now

  • @himitsudayo1694
    @himitsudayo1694 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    BIG NERFFFFF🥲😟

  • @Hencid
    @Hencid 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    bad analysis this changed are a big buff and make her much more versatile

    • @senioralexander0
      @senioralexander0 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      She became more versatile yes but became worse in her niche and AS

  • @Miky_hu
    @Miky_hu 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Haters gotta hate, still pulling. Talk about your cope ultimate nerfs idrc im having fun

  • @osiris4819
    @osiris4819 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    To be frank. She just went from achron and firefly level . To being under Dr raito like . Like this is one of the worst anime betrayal s of all time . Devs went and was like destroy on all her kit dmg by like 70% and another nerf at E6!!! by like 45% to 50% like did one of the devs have beff with the character or something

    • @PhucVan-zf5zg
      @PhucVan-zf5zg 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      True. And there are still idiots who just blindly believe that she gets a 10% damage buff. While in realtiy her multiplier got nerfed to the ground which was her main saling point to begin with as Robin alredy provide tons of atk and 50% damage buff + wind damage bonus orb already gives her almost 90% damage bonus already not even considering planar and relic set so more damage bonus or attack makes no sense. And in my opinion as a F2P who is still doing just fine with every harmony unit in the game and IL and E1S1 Blade as main DPS and wants to hyper invest (E2S1) in a character whose damage is not dependent on the enemy (Ratio, Acheron, DOT needs debuff, break needs enemy to be broken, Jade dependent on number of enemies without E1), I was very disappointed as Feixiao has always been dependent on her teamate to get stack and her E2 before was a way better deal than just make her gain 1.5 stacks every follow-up attack as she herself can only get so many turns. Sorry for yapping.

  • @Sniper-k3z
    @Sniper-k3z 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    smh'

  • @khaledbou7770
    @khaledbou7770 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Its a buff dummy not a nerf 💀

    • @noahviminde8466
      @noahviminde8466 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Its only a buff for premium FuA teams outside of that its a heavy nerf she doesnt hit as hard which can lead to clearing content slower isn't as flexible as she was before and now needs to be played with characters like aven topaz/moze and robin outside of these teams it'll feel underwhelming and she just doesn't seem as fun as before especially the fact that we can't use a 12 hit ultimate made her so much less interesting

    • @noahviminde8466
      @noahviminde8466 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      And the speed nerf is also crazy and where r the 12% def coming from💀