I love ATS's when done right they are sneaky quick. I have the stage one kit/ ZZ full exhaust/ TB. I have ZZsway bars/ ZZ rotors/ pads and Goodridge brake line. Mods coming BC coilovers FM intercooler/ E85/ BW turbo. I was thinking cams and values but I'm not sure yet
That's more than stage 1? Full stage 1 plus exhaust and intercooler is stage 2 right? I have stage 2 kit with larger throttle body also. What you think about the zfr turbo?
@@americanhooligans adding th BWT and e85 is more then stage two for sure. I like the ZFR but I'm looking at getting the CT5V so I'm not sure how much more $ I will be putting into my ATS
@@frednugent8068 the new cars are absolute garage....unfortunately. only the blackwing is going to be worth it. My 2.0t is faster than the ct5v. They really dropped the ball on the new lineup. Now to get the V power you have to spend 80k to 100k. And they look like shit lol ct4 is way nicer than the ct5 in looks to me.
@@americanhooligans I wasn't sure about the CT5V or the 4 but the more I see and hear both of them make me want one. The 5 in blue with the black wheels or the 4 in white with the black wheel would be my choice. Also the tune ability of both cars will be crazy
Definitely more consistent. Can't wait to post some vids up. It drives me crazy how inconsistent it can be. So many different parameters commanding different things at once ugh. Drives me crazy looking at the data logs.
Lol! yes indeed. Well, I'm going to wrap the cold charge pipe and down pipe next time around. I emailed the data logs to ZZP and they said everything looks good, so i guess the stock turbo is at its maximum.
@@hewett360productions4 Stock ATS push 20 PSI. With the tune I would guess it would either stay 20 or maybe go to 21 PSI, MAYBE push it to 22. ZZP sells a larger compression wheeled stock turbo. It allows you to grab a couple extra pounds of boost and push that extra little bit of horsepower without having to do too much work to the engine.
I originally had a 93 Tune from ZZP. I data logged on that tune using a 50/50 mix (101+91 /2 = 96) of 101 & 96 Octane and sent to ZZP. So I guess you can call it a 96 Tune. I use 101 to race now because GM says to use 100+ octane for competitive driving + the extra quart of oil. For daily driving, I use the 50/50 mix. Side note, 101 octane renders way less MPG lol!
@@v8pontiacvent yeah! I was considering running with higher octane or e85. Zzp just announced they can run e85 across all ats years. I'm still debating but your videos are helping me alot haha thanks
@@Redcountypatrol I went with high octane because they didn't have e85 for the 16+ models. Now if they do, I'm going to try that e85 for sure. Thanks for the news and glad the videos are helping you out.
Eric Sambo As long as it’s the same tune file being modified, No. I uploaded my file, costs me 2 credits, and sent to ZZP. They modify and work off of that file, then send it back to you. They keep a copy of that file so when you data log and they revise the tune, they again modify the file and email it to you.
Kevintheoutlaw The rears are very close to the fenders but do not rub. No spacers or anything, just slapped them on. The front ones fit good, no rubbing. It gives it a wider stance compared to the sedan wheels.
@@v8pontiacvent Ah they are... wow yeah they look real nice with the flush wide stance out back. I've got a '15 AWD coupe and wanted to get the V wheels then realized they're a 5x120 pattern.
@@v8pontiacvent Spacers on them at all? They look way better than the OEM ones on stock coupes I'm seeing... I know the body is slightly different between sedan and coupe but yours look like a good flush stance and fit.
@@eggsbenny86 No spacers. The offset on these are different since the coupes are wider. Put them on a sedan and they get the wider stance. I also have drag radials now and bought coupe 18" wheels. slightly less on the offset but still sit wider. You can see them here on this run: th-cam.com/video/MbJgDlnNt2E/w-d-xo.html
Correct. Stock muffler flows very well. Only reason anyone would change it is purely for sound on a stock turbo ATS. If you run a bigger turbo, then maybe at that point the muffler may be a limitation. But I can’t say for sure since I’m still on the stock turbo.
The shift points were set by ZZP. I just put it in “D” and go. U use the manual mode for the burn outs only. Used HP tuners connected to the OBD to data log.
Trey Lewis when you buy the software it comes with credits you can use to tune. You can buy additional credits from HP tuners if you ever run out or want to tune other vehicles.
Trey Lewis Two things to consider. One is flow and the other is cooling. The more you boost, the hooter the air and more flow needed. If you data log and send it to zzp, they might be able to see if your stock cooler is still effective. Also, the stock cooler is plastic on the ends.
I love ATS's when done right they are sneaky quick. I have the stage one kit/ ZZ full exhaust/ TB. I have ZZsway bars/ ZZ rotors/ pads and Goodridge brake line. Mods coming BC coilovers FM intercooler/ E85/ BW turbo. I was thinking cams and values but I'm not sure yet
That's more than stage 1? Full stage 1 plus exhaust and intercooler is stage 2 right?
I have stage 2 kit with larger throttle body also. What you think about the zfr turbo?
@@americanhooligans adding th BWT and e85 is more then stage two for sure. I like the ZFR but I'm looking at getting the CT5V so I'm not sure how much more $ I will be putting into my ATS
@@frednugent8068 the new cars are absolute garage....unfortunately. only the blackwing is going to be worth it.
My 2.0t is faster than the ct5v.
They really dropped the ball on the new lineup. Now to get the V power you have to spend 80k to 100k.
And they look like shit lol ct4 is way nicer than the ct5 in looks to me.
@@frednugent8068 but I'm probably just getting old lol
@@americanhooligans I wasn't sure about the CT5V or the 4 but the more I see and hear both of them make me want one. The 5 in blue with the black wheels or the 4 in white with the black wheel would be my choice. Also the tune ability of both cars will be crazy
Definitely more consistent. Can't wait to post some vids up. It drives me crazy how inconsistent it can be. So many different parameters commanding different things at once ugh. Drives me crazy looking at the data logs.
Lol! yes indeed. Well, I'm going to wrap the cold charge pipe and down pipe next time around. I emailed the data logs to ZZP and they said everything looks good, so i guess the stock turbo is at its maximum.
v8pontiacvent lol time for the zfr lol
Ton_finnhead lol! I’m contemplating that. It’s between that or LS swapping my Pontiac Ventura. Decisions, decisions, decisions...... We’ll see
v8pontiacvent How much PSI are you pushing in the stock turbo?
@@hewett360productions4 Stock ATS push 20 PSI. With the tune I would guess it would either stay 20 or maybe go to 21 PSI, MAYBE push it to 22. ZZP sells a larger compression wheeled stock turbo. It allows you to grab a couple extra pounds of boost and push that extra little bit of horsepower without having to do too much work to the engine.
Got em!!
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Have you did a Dyno yet? How much horsepower and torque do you think you are getting?
No dyno yet. Based on weight and trap speed, I’m guessing close to 380~400 to the crank
I see your running 101 octane. Did you tune for 101? Or just running 101 on a 93 tune?
I originally had a 93 Tune from ZZP. I data logged on that tune using a 50/50 mix (101+91 /2 = 96) of 101 & 96 Octane and sent to ZZP. So I guess you can call it a 96 Tune. I use 101 to race now because GM says to use 100+ octane for competitive driving + the extra quart of oil. For daily driving, I use the 50/50 mix. Side note, 101 octane renders way less MPG lol!
@@v8pontiacvent yeah! I was considering running with higher octane or e85. Zzp just announced they can run e85 across all ats years. I'm still debating but your videos are helping me alot haha thanks
@@Redcountypatrol I went with high octane because they didn't have e85 for the 16+ models. Now if they do, I'm going to try that e85 for sure. Thanks for the news and glad the videos are helping you out.
@@v8pontiacvent when you get a revised tune from zzp does it always cost two credits to write to your ecm?
Eric Sambo As long as it’s the same tune file being modified, No. I uploaded my file, costs me 2 credits, and sent to ZZP. They modify and work off of that file, then send it back to you. They keep a copy of that file so when you data log and they revise the tune, they again modify the file and email it to you.
Me again! Have you tried running E-85 with your whole setup? Looking to hit 12s, IC is in the mail, and which software did you use to datalog for ZZP?
Hey what’s up? I can’t do e85 on the 16 model. ZZP can do e47 but I’d have to mix the fuel myself. But I haven’t ran it on any e fuel
v8pontiacvent why is that? Just seeking knowledge, didn’t know 16+ models couldn’t run 85.
Trey Lewis It’s the PCM in 16 models that don’t support flex fuel sensor.
Where did you get those mud flaps?
Go them on E-Bay. Pretty good fit and they have "ATS" Embossed on the rear.
What mods do you have ❤❤❤
ZZP Stage 1 kit, full Mishimoto IC upgrade kit, 3" cut out, bigger TB & PTP turbo blanket. Remote tune, 101 Octane, catless down pipe & Denso race plugs
@@v8pontiacvent Ty
Did you use hp tuners?
Yes. I ordered the tune from ZZP and they also did the remote tuning after sending in the data logs
Do you have forged pistons, rods & cams ?
All engine components are factory stock.
The link you posted does not work!
Link Fixed, thanks for letting me know
This is a mechanical LSD, right? Gonna make any changes or keep it stock?
I’m not exactly sure. It’s whatever comes stick with the 2.0T
I’ll keep the rear as is.
Super 19kh all 15+ came with LSD factory, I have the standard model, and both wheels lock.
Coupe wheels?
Yes.
@@v8pontiacvent how do they fit to the fenders? Any rubbing? No spacers correct?
Kevintheoutlaw The rears are very close to the fenders but do not rub. No spacers or anything, just slapped them on. The front ones fit good, no rubbing. It gives it a wider stance compared to the sedan wheels.
Do you have a bigger turbo or just turbine ?
It’s the factory stock turbo. I’m going to be getting the ZZP big wheel turbo soon.
Which turbo do you have.?
It’s the Stock Turbo
You change the hubs to fit the ATS-V wheels?
They’re actually ATS Coupe Wheels. They look very similar to the V Wheels. They bolt right up but do sit closer to the fenders. No Rubbing at all
@@v8pontiacvent Ah they are... wow yeah they look real nice with the flush wide stance out back. I've got a '15 AWD coupe and wanted to get the V wheels then realized they're a 5x120 pattern.
@@eggsbenny86 Exactly. The bolt pattern is different and do not fit the regular ATS. These are Hollander 4734 REAR 18x9 & 4731 FRONT 18X8.
@@v8pontiacvent Spacers on them at all? They look way better than the OEM ones on stock coupes I'm seeing... I know the body is slightly different between sedan and coupe but yours look like a good flush stance and fit.
@@eggsbenny86 No spacers. The offset on these are different since the coupes are wider. Put them on a sedan and they get the wider stance. I also have drag radials now and bought coupe 18" wheels. slightly less on the offset but still sit wider. You can see them here on this run: th-cam.com/video/MbJgDlnNt2E/w-d-xo.html
Why the automatic it's much slower than the 6 speed
I didn’t know the automatic was much slower than the 6 speed. But I also haven’t seen a 6 speed run 12’s with the same bolt ons. You know of any?
@@v8pontiacvent I didn't see any automatics do it either. I was counting in the video and it just got a 6 second 0 to 60
Daniel ivanov Didn’t see a 12 second pass in the video? This car does all 12’s. There’s other videos I posted that show the times from the outside
@@v8pontiacvent no I didn't see any slips
Daniel ivanov Here you go, skip to the 3 minute mark for the time slip pick up:
th-cam.com/video/-wQ5dERUj1I/w-d-xo.html
so the stock muffler is not that bad
Correct. Stock muffler flows very well. Only reason anyone would change it is purely for sound on a stock turbo ATS. If you run a bigger turbo, then maybe at that point the muffler may be a limitation. But I can’t say for sure since I’m still on the stock turbo.
@@v8pontiacvent thank you this is very helpfull for me im tkinking to remove the resonator and second cat keeping the stock muffler
Also I’m seeing you shift around 6k, I know with stock TB, anything over 5500 is useless, still have a deadzone past 6k?
The shift points were set by ZZP. I just put it in “D” and go. U use the manual mode for the burn outs only. Used HP tuners connected to the OBD to data log.
v8pontiacvent I was looking into that, did you have to buy the whole setup with the credits?
Trey Lewis when you buy the software it comes with credits you can use to tune. You can buy additional credits from HP tuners if you ever run out or want to tune other vehicles.
v8pontiacvent so I bought the tuner, talking to turbo Tim at the moment. Also got the larger TB. On the fence about the inter cooler. Is it worth it?
Trey Lewis Two things to consider. One is flow and the other is cooling. The more you boost, the hooter the air and more flow needed. If you data log and send it to zzp, they might be able to see if your stock cooler is still effective. Also, the stock cooler is plastic on the ends.