Our department is going to buy them as well. They work great. Also when you compare the cost to what the pack integrated ones cost they are a no brainier.
I noticed the unit I have blacks out entirely and will not turn on when I'm on the knob and I hit it. I dont know of the conversion does it, the thermal layers geting all wonky or what. But every time I get the knock it goes dark and wont' come back on. This is problematic for us as we immediately convert to ventilation and primary search when primary search is where I wanted this to work the most.
The unit turns off and won't turn back on? I haven't had mine do that. Might be a faulty one, I'd contact them about it. I know TICs will have problems with steam clouds due to the water particles in the air and lack of difference in temperatures to detect.
@@crossingtheglobe3122 Yeah we sent it in. Its on its way back via FedEx. Yes, it would literally just power off and it wouldn't come back on until charged again. Rinse repeat. I was testing for the dept so it wasnt a good experience. haha. Hopefully it works when it gets back.
Yeah I like the design of the 300 better. The sensor is on the back so you can hold it normally. Also much bigger buttons! Maybe they watched this. It is pricey though. Hope it works great.
Why would a camera that tells you if something is hot or cold useful to firefighters I mean, if your house is on fire are they really gonna care if the door is hot or not
Hey thanks for commenting, there are actually many uses for thermal imagers to firefighters. In heavy smoke conditions, you can search rooms very quickly and locate people/unconscious victims easily when you only have a foot visibility. You could see a child across the room hiding under something when you never would have found them otherwise. These also allow you to see hidden fires inside walls or attics that could be spreading. If the fire travels through the attic without you knowing it could collapse on you trapping/possibly killing you. We also use them on investigations, electrical issues, and search and rescue.
What an absolute useless POS!! The ergonomics for scanning the floor or viewing beyond over your head are horrible. To look down , you almost need to do a hand stand to see the floor in front of you. This is complicated more by having one of the narrowest fields of view on the market meaning it requires almost direct views due to almost no peripheral range. The buttons can’t be manipulated with fire gloves on so the fancy screens are far more liability than help as you can accidentally turn them on and then not be able to get back out. The refresh rate has the camera freezing more than scanning at moderate temps. The pixel rate and view screen are too small to aid in victim identification as a large number of your victims don’t show as the hottest thing in the room. They are often covered or thermal equalizing so that stark contrast doesn’t exist. You are looking for shapes or areas that require you to physically sweep to verify a victim. Using this device for that is like watching the Super Bowl on your iPhone 5 vs your 55 inch big screen. Finding fire? The low pixel rate and lower contrast to the view screen coupled with the slow refresh rate means the camera whites out (or reds out) very quickly and with little effort, particularly given that its field of view is very narrow and therefore has much less contrasting surface area for the processor to use for temperature differentiation. About the only true value to this camera is as a personal tic to help you locate an exit point should the reserved NFPA tic fail or you become separated. Hopefully there is enough heat differentiation between rooms to show the doorway. Remember, a tic works by a computer generating an image from contrasts between pixels that have absorbed the infrared from the heat emitter. The crisp picture at the day room table is not the picture inside a structure. The less temperature differentiation, the worse the pic. Particularly when the screen you view is incredibly small and you’re trying your see the screen through smoke and the processor is also trying to see through smoke.
Glad you put this review on here. We just bought 4 of these. Looking forward to getting them
Our department is going to buy them as well. They work great. Also when you compare the cost to what the pack integrated ones cost they are a no brainier.
I noticed the unit I have blacks out entirely and will not turn on when I'm on the knob and I hit it. I dont know of the conversion does it, the thermal layers geting all wonky or what. But every time I get the knock it goes dark and wont' come back on. This is problematic for us as we immediately convert to ventilation and primary search when primary search is where I wanted this to work the most.
The unit turns off and won't turn back on? I haven't had mine do that. Might be a faulty one, I'd contact them about it. I know TICs will have problems with steam clouds due to the water particles in the air and lack of difference in temperatures to detect.
@@crossingtheglobe3122 Yeah we sent it in. Its on its way back via FedEx. Yes, it would literally just power off and it wouldn't come back on until charged again. Rinse repeat. I was testing for the dept so it wasnt a good experience. haha. Hopefully it works when it gets back.
I just got the FirePro 300
Yeah I like the design of the 300 better. The sensor is on the back so you can hold it normally. Also much bigger buttons! Maybe they watched this. It is pricey though. Hope it works great.
Appreciate it. I'm looking for a TIC for my self so I don't have to depend on my officer
No problem! It's been a great/convenient tool for me so far outside the small stated issues.
I have this exact camera for sale
Why would a camera that tells you if something is hot or cold useful to firefighters I mean, if your house is on fire are they really gonna care if the door is hot or not
Hey thanks for commenting, there are actually many uses for thermal imagers to firefighters. In heavy smoke conditions, you can search rooms very quickly and locate people/unconscious victims easily when you only have a foot visibility. You could see a child across the room hiding under something when you never would have found them otherwise. These also allow you to see hidden fires inside walls or attics that could be spreading. If the fire travels through the attic without you knowing it could collapse on you trapping/possibly killing you. We also use them on investigations, electrical issues, and search and rescue.
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What an absolute useless POS!! The ergonomics for scanning the floor or viewing beyond over your head are horrible. To look down , you almost need to do a hand stand to see the floor in front of you. This is complicated more by having one of the narrowest fields of view on the market meaning it requires almost direct views due to almost no peripheral range. The buttons can’t be manipulated with fire gloves on so the fancy screens are far more liability than help as you can accidentally turn them on and then not be able to get back out. The refresh rate has the camera freezing more than scanning at moderate temps. The pixel rate and view screen are too small to aid in victim identification as a large number of your victims don’t show as the hottest thing in the room. They are often covered or thermal equalizing so that stark contrast doesn’t exist. You are looking for shapes or areas that require you to physically sweep to verify a victim. Using this device for that is like watching the Super Bowl on your iPhone 5 vs your 55 inch big screen. Finding fire? The low pixel rate and lower contrast to the view screen coupled with the slow refresh rate means the camera whites out (or reds out) very quickly and with little effort, particularly given that its field of view is very narrow and therefore has much less contrasting surface area for the processor to use for temperature differentiation. About the only true value to this camera is as a personal tic to help you locate an exit point should the reserved NFPA tic fail or you become separated. Hopefully there is enough heat differentiation between rooms to show the doorway. Remember, a tic works by a computer generating an image from contrasts between pixels that have absorbed the infrared from the heat emitter. The crisp picture at the day room table is not the picture inside a structure. The less temperature differentiation, the worse the pic. Particularly when the screen you view is incredibly small and you’re trying your see the screen through smoke and the processor is also trying to see through smoke.