I've been using mechanical termination for 20 years with very respectable results. I'd love to see the yield results of just leaving it standing, but in our case, we have too many other cover crops in the mix, it's very dense. You have to wait until after everything has flowered and the rye is at doughy stage to terminate. It's OK to plant a week or two prior to that, and actually it's better to do that.
@@IntegratedPestManagement I started with fairly good ground. The previous owner would pull land out and put it in alfalfa for awhile. Every 3rd year I pull 1000 acres out and slam it from every direction with as many varieties of covers as I can get my hands on in the fall and the spring, then graze it. Cattle, pigs, yes, I said pigs, but they are whisked along from paddock to paddock very quickly, chickens, turkeys, ducks, What I do is pretty much what Heifer USA does as far as livestock rotation. I started with about 2% organic matter and after 20 years, I range from 6% and even up to 8% in a few places. The biggest thing is that I really don't have weeds anymore on the ground I've had for a long time. Every 5 years you pause in wonderment because you hit a point with measurable improvement. On those acres, I'll take 1/2 a day and run from field to field with the weed zapper, but on the ground that's in transition, I have to make complete passes, 2-3 times per year to fight the weeds. The thing about having off the charts high nutrient levels, is synthetic fertility has a volatility to it that makes it pick up into the cash crop easier. If a soil test shows 900 lbs of nitrogen per acre, that should be enough to win the world series of corn growing contest, but it's only going to give up around 100 lbs per season. This year I knifed in liquid hog manure on the planters, and went back and side dressed in some more. It just super charged my corn, it looks better than the conventional chemical ground around me. Now it's about hurrying up and waiting to see if I am going to get the prettiest leaves, or will it give me better ears. Time will tell. You throw a drought at me, or wash out rain, and I'll out yield every other farmer in the county. If it's a great year for everyone, the drag from being no chemicals for me is about 15-20%. That's actually really good. I've had plenty of FFA and colleges on my farm over the years, the kids just look at me all confused and repeat "that's not the way my dad does it" over and over. I had one kid, who tried to say it nicely, actually tell me "my dad says guys like you always go broke." Well, here I am. LOL Bless ya, Tom
How do I get the yield results for the plot? I have been killing off my rye about two weeks after the beans are in the ground. I've had great results holding down the early weed pressure, but I haven't split a field to know if it's costing me. From field to field I believe my "beans into living rye" fields are very competitive and in some cases superior to my beans into clean vertical tilled fields.
This specific trial was not taken to yield so those results aren't available for that year..unfortunately! Any other questions on the research let us know thanks!
This specific trial was not taken to yield so those results aren't available for that year..unfortunately! Any other questions on the research let us know thanks! Some of their other projects were taken to yield although the studies were set up a bit different.
Could you please answer my question: I just bought a house with feild that just had soybeans harvest. There is now soybean stalks left behind. I would like to plant a pature. Could you please tell me how I should go about getting the soy bean stalks out of the ground or should I just put gass seeds down over the bean stalks?
You might want to plant your pasture with a drill or disc it before broadcasting. Plan to use a cultipacker to get good seed to soil contact if you broadcast seed. You shouldn't have to worry about those soybeans if you plan to disc and broadcast because the disc should chop them up
@@codydog1700 this particular weed grows in cold weather hot weather,too much rain or draught neither one affects it.I've tried glyphosate mixed with impact and all it does is curl the leaves for a couple weeks and then it comes right back.I dont want to turn my soil as I no till,but maybe a light disking a time or two might help
I just want to tell one thing to you guys is that in india we do some research on it and it results the same as you guys do but one thing is very noticeable In our research is that we need to grow our cover crop at its fullest and then do crimping process or rolling over the surface so that stable organic carbon will goes back to the ground that will remain in the soil for longer period of time but if you do this crimping or rolling process on cover crop in mediating time while its growing than the carbon Is become unstable and it will not give you that much amount of carbon in your land as it needed to be. So my opinion is to plant the soybean when your cereal rye cover crop is fully grown than this will increase organic carbon of that land so quickly and weeds will also automatically not grow due to lack of sunlight. And if stable carbon is increased than that land is very suitable for all mircobes and fungus to live in huge amount for longer period of time which can hold water for longer period of time.
One thing more plz check carbon percentage in all three lands.. And tell your viewers which cover crop will maximizing the carbon of land the most..full grown cereal rye or not fully grown cereal rye. Thank you but you guys doing great job because in india we are lacking communication because everyone goes for high yield whatever amount of input cost has been paid.. But after 2010 production of crop is degrading and no one gives a fuck about it and there surrounding wheather.
I've been using mechanical termination for 20 years with very respectable results. I'd love to see the yield results of just leaving it standing, but in our case, we have too many other cover crops in the mix, it's very dense. You have to wait until after everything has flowered and the rye is at doughy stage to terminate. It's OK to plant a week or two prior to that, and actually it's better to do that.
Wish this trial was taken to yield! Thanks for sharing...dense cover crops providing you with healthy soil?
@@IntegratedPestManagement I started with fairly good ground. The previous owner would pull land out and put it in alfalfa for awhile. Every 3rd year I pull 1000 acres out and slam it from every direction with as many varieties of covers as I can get my hands on in the fall and the spring, then graze it. Cattle, pigs, yes, I said pigs, but they are whisked along from paddock to paddock very quickly, chickens, turkeys, ducks, What I do is pretty much what Heifer USA does as far as livestock rotation.
I started with about 2% organic matter and after 20 years, I range from 6% and even up to 8% in a few places. The biggest thing is that I really don't have weeds anymore on the ground I've had for a long time. Every 5 years you pause in wonderment because you hit a point with measurable improvement. On those acres, I'll take 1/2 a day and run from field to field with the weed zapper, but on the ground that's in transition, I have to make complete passes, 2-3 times per year to fight the weeds.
The thing about having off the charts high nutrient levels, is synthetic fertility has a volatility to it that makes it pick up into the cash crop easier. If a soil test shows 900 lbs of nitrogen per acre, that should be enough to win the world series of corn growing contest, but it's only going to give up around 100 lbs per season. This year I knifed in liquid hog manure on the planters, and went back and side dressed in some more. It just super charged my corn, it looks better than the conventional chemical ground around me.
Now it's about hurrying up and waiting to see if I am going to get the prettiest leaves, or will it give me better ears. Time will tell.
You throw a drought at me, or wash out rain, and I'll out yield every other farmer in the county. If it's a great year for everyone, the drag from being no chemicals for me is about 15-20%. That's actually really good. I've had plenty of FFA and colleges on my farm over the years, the kids just look at me all confused and repeat "that's not the way my dad does it" over and over. I had one kid, who tried to say it nicely, actually tell me "my dad says guys like you always go broke." Well, here I am. LOL
Bless ya,
Tom
@@LtColDaddy71 That's amazing! Thanks for sharing and the weed management sounds so interesting. Thanks again...Cheers!
Was the height of the lowest pods influenced by the standing rye ?
Great research !
Greetings from Germany
The reduced sunlight from the standing rye..yes, you are spot on!
And thanks!
How do I get the yield results for the plot? I have been killing off my rye about two weeks after the beans are in the ground. I've had great results holding down the early weed pressure, but I haven't split a field to know if it's costing me. From field to field I believe my "beans into living rye" fields are very competitive and in some cases superior to my beans into clean vertical tilled fields.
This specific trial was not taken to yield so those results aren't available for that year..unfortunately! Any other questions on the research let us know thanks!
That's too bad. Would be good info. Why was it not taken to yield? Also, when was the rye planted? Was that a spring or fall planting?
how was the rye terminated
Is there a video or other resource that tells how the yields compared?
This specific trial was not taken to yield so those results aren't available for that year..unfortunately! Any other questions on the research let us know thanks! Some of their other projects were taken to yield although the studies were set up a bit different.
Could you please answer my question: I just bought a house with feild that just had soybeans harvest. There is now soybean stalks left behind. I would like to plant a pature. Could you please tell me how I should go about getting the soy bean stalks out of the ground or should I just put gass seeds down over the bean stalks?
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You might want to plant your pasture with a drill or disc it before broadcasting. Plan to use a cultipacker to get good seed to soil contact if you broadcast seed. You shouldn't have to worry about those soybeans if you plan to disc and broadcast because the disc should chop them up
Did you roll any of it?
The crop was not rolled in any way..but he does have two studies set up this year that will be taken to yield!
no...down here in my neck of the woods we have weeds that thrive in cereal rye,whether its growing or crimped
@@jimmydykes7961 You can't raise a cool season without spraying?
@@codydog1700 this particular weed grows in cold weather hot weather,too much rain or draught neither one affects it.I've tried glyphosate mixed with impact and all it does is curl the leaves for a couple weeks and then it comes right back.I dont want to turn my soil as I no till,but maybe a light disking a time or two might help
@@jimmydykes7961 what's it called?
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I just want to tell one thing to you guys is that in india we do some research on it and it results the same as you guys do but one thing is very noticeable In our research is that we need to grow our cover crop at its fullest and then do crimping process or rolling over the surface so that stable organic carbon will goes back to the ground that will remain in the soil for longer period of time but if you do this crimping or rolling process on cover crop in mediating time while its growing than the carbon Is become unstable and it will not give you that much amount of carbon in your land as it needed to be. So my opinion is to plant the soybean when your cereal rye cover crop is fully grown than this will increase organic carbon of that land so quickly and weeds will also automatically not grow due to lack of sunlight. And if stable carbon is increased than that land is very suitable for all mircobes and fungus to live in huge amount for longer period of time which can hold water for longer period of time.
One thing more plz check carbon percentage in all three lands.. And tell your viewers which cover crop will maximizing the carbon of land the most..full grown cereal rye or not fully grown cereal rye. Thank you but you guys doing great job because in india we are lacking communication because everyone goes for high yield whatever amount of input cost has been paid.. But after 2010 production of crop is degrading and no one gives a fuck about it and there surrounding wheather.