Having probably now watched probably a good 5k hours of SC2, it was nice to see variety in that game with the changeling grief on the thors. What a fighter Byun was.
Rogue is really the shining star of Zerg. Dark's chaotic gameplay and fierce timing attacks are a wonder to see, and Serral's indefatigable macro behind insane micro wins him games at the top end, but Rogue is really showing how more typical Zerg can compete with Terran in the late game.
Rogue is fuking making enough Overseers to permanently disable all production buildings... But instead he craps out an army of pooplings that cant attack... True genius.
Going through all of that can still take a heavy toll Constant vision and free nydus', let alone taking up so much apm, that's already heavily worth it - and if they give up trying to stop the changelings then they become even stronger Contaminte is hardly worth it, I mean they can put up a handful of missile turrets and it immediately becomes too costly to do it
As a tech switch esque move though. You force a trade of supply and then fly through the base one time and you shut down all production for 30 seconds. Rogue can then rebuild while his opponent cannot. @PJOZeus
dude has transcended this game into another form of Arts -- like Chess play...holy crap, this dude is crazy smart... !!! Like 40 years Michael Jordan playing NBA...lol...literally !!!
I feel like mutas as a way to force a response in that situation was kind of brilliant actually. That was enough mutas that had he not responded with thors/ghosts/freedom it may have gone poorly, which werent well-equipped to deal with the swarm hosts and lings following up. If Byun had tried to respond less drastically (or if Rogue had better drained his money so he couldn't) the mutas end it.
I think Rogue and Dark went to the same school where they were taught: "scissors beats paper right?" "Yes, but No...not if you throw in so much of it the scissors snap in two before it can cut anything"
14:38 that changeling dies of heart attack apparently, because the SINGLE projectile (usually are two) from the Banshee still hasn't left the rocket pod
23:30 so nice to see braindead A-move Terran EZ mode splash damage absolutely vaporize a group of units 20x it's value in literally 2 seconds. It's only fair, it's not like Terran has anything else that hard counters mutas...I mean, sure there's Marines, widOP mines, ghosts, thors, vikings, and BCs... but liberators should also hard counter them because mutas are *super strong and useful units* and definitely not tickle cannons made of wet tissue paper
@@pitecusH Rogue made 15 lurkers at the 15 minute mark and the game didnt end for another 15 minutes. 0 Lurkers on the field when Rogue finally ended the game. Lurkers are not an issue
Never underestimate Libs as AA, they stack really nicely. Second, don't attack while the parabomb is still going, wait till HP reduction has maxed, as units affected are still doing max DPS.
My life gets better every single day this guy releases another video. Im the oldest starcraft player, I do believe. I still have an overclocked p4 based on single core architecture just for this game.
I feel like Dark is Pegasus where Rogue is Vegeta. Dark: "Oh how lovely! Did you see this coming too??!" Rogue: I WILL BEAT YOU, I AM BETTER, THIS WILL WORK!...FUCK, OKAY ASSHOLE, HOW BOUT...EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!!!"
@@colinfraser7150 Nonsense. Dark is obviously the Joker, while Rogue is Madara Uchiha. Dark: "Cackles maniacally while doing genius nonsense." Rogue: "But now... just what are you going to do about the **second** one?"
@@colinfraser7150 I graciously accept your concession, good sir, while confessing that I (much like Dark) am mostly making this up as I go. WP to you in turn.
Felt obligated to leave a comment after having watched so many videos. I don’t even play this game; I never have. TH-cam just decided I would probably like this content and they were absolutely correct. Your commentary is so so good at making this accessible even to someone that literally has zero idea what’s going on, to the point where I’m already judging player decisions and identifying lost positions as if I have any idea what’s going on. Wonderful content.
BRO thank you for the slight FPS recommend about the sound thing and channels. I just play 1v1 but sometimes with all the ling bane and creep vs marines I drop FPS. TY for the tip man. Love the vids!
Same type of gameplay than game 1 and 3, look at an older winter's video, like 1/2 months ago bo5 rogue vs clem. *Spoiler* There is a clip where we see clem smashing his keyboard of rage at the end of the bo ^^ *spoiler*
Great to see Byun switch up the build a bit and... Not get tanks in g3... Very creative. More Gumiho please! Worlds best terran. Bless you fr the casts. Sleepless nights with a newborn just got a little bit better
@@PJOZeus Heh, yeah. There's a reason they don't understand what the pros are doing, and it's because the pros are so far ahead of them, that they can't even begin to picture the strategy, let alone how to counter it, let alone in time to matter.
49:50 @winterstarcraft the problem is that somehow, you will cast 5 series in a week and lowko will cast the exact same 5 series in the week, just in a different order. So clearly there isn't that much good starcraft going on when the overlap is so consistent. It ends up with me being able to watch content for say, Monday to Wednesday, and then the rest of the week your channel and lowko will be repeats of what I already saw. Since I prefer your sarcasm to his singing, I've just had to give up on his channel and check in on it on Sundays in case there's anything you haven't already cast -- typically not. I'd love twice the starcraft though.
Lmao, the anti-air attack is basically useless except in this specific case, and maybe against mass Corruptor. 1v1, it loses to pretty much everything.
@@LucianDevine they can slightly buff the damage but remove the AoE. That fight in game 1 was stupid at best, and required 0 micro from the Terran but still obliterated a massive Mutalisk army in less than 3 seconds.
bold of winter to assume that 22 death scv's even concern a terran in the slightest lmao imagine a zerg losing close to 70 drones in under 15 minutes and still going.... lmao byun didnt "gg" xD
Not sure how I feel about the current thumbnail meta. I think at the end of the video you should actually like put in footage of you making the the thumbnail.
@LucianDevine I was half joking. I just get annoyed when the thumbnail isn't in the video. I click on it and I want to see it happen! Watch pretty much daily regardless. Love that soothing announcer voice!
Brenda, Susan, and Lucille are always so toxic to each other, I hope one day they can set aside their differences and be wholesome girlbosses together :)
Rogue and shin are inventing new stuff they are so interesting I think serral needs to copy them he seems to just be playing ling bane and playing 2023 zerg
This series just proves once again how absolutely broken and op zerg truly is. Rogue making so many bronze league plays and even throws the game, yet he still wins. Only because he plays zerg. 🤡🤬🤬
What is going on with sc2 quality lately? We have sharks below the observer cams. Theres a frozen not animated shark on the south side of the map. Like, come on guys. I know the game is dead but you dont have to beat it.
Having probably now watched probably a good 5k hours of SC2, it was nice to see variety in that game with the changeling grief on the thors. What a fighter Byun was.
At one hour a day that would take you 13.5 years. SC2 came out in 2010. Everything appears in order here. appreciate your commitment to the cause.
Mutas and swarm hoasts in the same round warms my heart!
Rogue is really the shining star of Zerg. Dark's chaotic gameplay and fierce timing attacks are a wonder to see, and Serral's indefatigable macro behind insane micro wins him games at the top end, but Rogue is really showing how more typical Zerg can compete with Terran in the late game.
Rogue is fuking making enough Overseers to permanently disable all production buildings... But instead he craps out an army of pooplings that cant attack... True genius.
Honestly I wonder if he’s waiting to bust out the mass contaminate move for a big tournament, no use wasting that element of surprise on the ladder
Going through all of that can still take a heavy toll
Constant vision and free nydus', let alone taking up so much apm, that's already heavily worth it - and if they give up trying to stop the changelings then they become even stronger
Contaminte is hardly worth it, I mean they can put up a handful of missile turrets and it immediately becomes too costly to do it
As a tech switch esque move though. You force a trade of supply and then fly through the base one time and you shut down all production for 30 seconds. Rogue can then rebuild while his opponent cannot. @PJOZeus
Who are you?
dude has transcended this game into another form of Arts -- like Chess play...holy crap, this dude is crazy smart... !!! Like 40 years Michael Jordan playing NBA...lol...literally !!!
When 52 Mutas didn't get the job done, the Zerg hivemind called on Sir Richard, the first of his name, to do that which nothing else could!
I feel like mutas as a way to force a response in that situation was kind of brilliant actually. That was enough mutas that had he not responded with thors/ghosts/freedom it may have gone poorly, which werent well-equipped to deal with the swarm hosts and lings following up. If Byun had tried to respond less drastically (or if Rogue had better drained his money so he couldn't) the mutas end it.
Rogue really did embody Zerg here. Attacking where his opponent wasn’t. Not a base trade but effective and strategical aggression.
The Thors being surrounded by a bunch of changeling groupies who all wanted to take a selfie with them was pure comedy gold :)
You sir, are an amazing caster
shout out for the map creators this first map is so beautiful it's a joy to watch.
Abyssal Reef is such a great map visually. Glad it's back in the rotation from the past.
I think Rogue and Dark went to the same school where they were taught:
"scissors beats paper right?"
"Yes, but No...not if you throw in so much of it the scissors snap in two before it can cut anything"
"You shall not!" "they're gone." "I had a whole bit" 🤣🤣
A SHARK......a shark
Nice - Mornings with Rogue vs. any Terran is better than most championship finals
Well, in universe the Liberator was supposed to be based on the Valkyrie, I think those Mutas demonstrated that spirit is still alive and well.
14:38 that changeling dies of heart attack apparently, because the SINGLE projectile (usually are two) from the Banshee still hasn't left the rocket pod
its one of actors that act before the cue 😂
14:03 Marine trap against tank, got killed by another tank.
23:30 so nice to see braindead A-move Terran EZ mode splash damage absolutely vaporize a group of units 20x it's value in literally 2 seconds. It's only fair, it's not like Terran has anything else that hard counters mutas...I mean, sure there's Marines, widOP mines, ghosts, thors, vikings, and BCs... but liberators should also hard counter them because mutas are *super strong and useful units* and definitely not tickle cannons made of wet tissue paper
@@GotEmAll1337 Mutas are a joke nowadays. Sad to see after them being such an iconic unit since BW
Same goes for zerg man. Mass produce lurkers and win the game. I'm tired of seeing that.
@@pitecusH Rogue made 15 lurkers at the 15 minute mark and the game didnt end for another 15 minutes. 0 Lurkers on the field when Rogue finally ended the game. Lurkers are not an issue
@@dawgamonggators Not in this particular game. I have ben referencing many games across the last few weeks I've watched Winter's commentary on.
Never underestimate Libs as AA, they stack really nicely.
Second, don't attack while the parabomb is still going, wait till HP reduction has maxed, as units affected are still doing max DPS.
ok you said!!! give us 2 or 3 of these a day even the mirror matches, that TvT was so funny!!! love this stuff!!!
My life gets better every single day this guy releases another video. Im the oldest starcraft player, I do believe. I still have an overclocked p4 based on single core architecture just for this game.
winter: "I like them large"
me: "pause"
winter: "say hi to your mother"
💀
I love your thumbnails, just 500 supply of whatever unit you wanna show 💀
Especially in this case with Sir Richard, the first of his name, and his merry band of Swarm Host brethren!
Dark: "Oh, you're a **villain** alright! Just not a **SUPER** one!"
Rogue: "What's the difference?"
Dark: " **Presentation!** "
I feel like Dark is Pegasus where Rogue is Vegeta. Dark: "Oh how lovely! Did you see this coming too??!" Rogue: I WILL BEAT YOU, I AM BETTER, THIS WILL WORK!...FUCK, OKAY ASSHOLE, HOW BOUT...EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!!!"
@@colinfraser7150 Nonsense. Dark is obviously the Joker, while Rogue is Madara Uchiha.
Dark: "Cackles maniacally while doing genius nonsense."
Rogue: "But now... just what are you going to do about the **second** one?"
@@LexFicta I don't know enough Naruto to contest this point, I therefore humbly concede. WP.
@@colinfraser7150 I graciously accept your concession, good sir, while confessing that I (much like Dark) am mostly making this up as I go. WP to you in turn.
Felt obligated to leave a comment after having watched so many videos. I don’t even play this game; I never have. TH-cam just decided I would probably like this content and they were absolutely correct. Your commentary is so so good at making this accessible even to someone that literally has zero idea what’s going on, to the point where I’m already judging player decisions and identifying lost positions as if I have any idea what’s going on. Wonderful content.
BRO thank you for the slight FPS recommend about the sound thing and channels. I just play 1v1 but sometimes with all the ling bane and creep vs marines I drop FPS. TY for the tip man. Love the vids!
Denying the upgrade that final game is why I think he turtled up like that. He knew he could defend and push.
It’s hard to express how excited I was when ByuN started researching Caduceus Reactor, only for it to be denied! What an emotional roller coaster.
My night became a little bit better. Thanks Winter.
You couldn't think of anything funnier for the end of that bit.
Im dying.
I hit the like button at the beginning of the video because Winter never fails to make it entertaining.
Rogue is like Dark with good macro oh my god thank you winter
50:00 - 3 a day? Winter. Please
let us build the momentum for Winter's cup.
i'm sure there's plenty of puns here
Look a hot take but detection should really detect the changelings. Just saying
Terran gets an APM sink (Widow mine) but Zerg can't?
Changeling's are just annoying compared to game ending.
how rouge plays vs clem?
Same type of gameplay than game 1 and 3, look at an older winter's video, like 1/2 months ago bo5 rogue vs clem. *Spoiler* There is a clip where we see clem smashing his keyboard of rage at the end of the bo ^^ *spoiler*
Great to see Byun switch up the build a bit and... Not get tanks in g3... Very creative.
More Gumiho please! Worlds best terran.
Bless you fr the casts. Sleepless nights with a newborn just got a little bit better
sound quality and channels tweak is great
'Speedlings' need a speed buff
Made it to the point in the video where Winter says he reads the comments so here you go, ilu ❤
What i think is so funny about this style against clem is that mass tank shuts it down and you dont even have to micro
Whichever style you're talking about, no
Definitely do have to micro, no micro means death
@@PJOZeus Especially to friendly fire.
@@LucianDevine One of many issues yeah
Gold peak berating byun and clem saying they don't understand what they're doing
@@PJOZeus Heh, yeah. There's a reason they don't understand what the pros are doing, and it's because the pros are so far ahead of them, that they can't even begin to picture the strategy, let alone how to counter it, let alone in time to matter.
@@LucianDevine it's the skill graph
confidence is at the highest when they have no clue, or all the clue - and it's evident which one this is
Ggs we love ya Winter ❤
The battle report at 25:58 showed that ByuN killed one of his own Thor's lol
"37 mutas! Are you high?!" Lol
50:20 let's hope we can enjoy some high quality starcraft content for many more years to come. :)
Rogue is hellbent into having a zerg unit nerfed in his name
I gotta say, looking at several of Rogue's games this year, Artosis wasn't as crazy as he sounded.
Hey Winter, what was that song you were hinting at at the 16:57 mark?
"ah! I was reading that!" 😂
I don't even play Starcraft, I'm just here for Winter' commentary 😂
Hey, we got ZvZ and TvT - where's my obligatory PvP??
Try the 9th circle of hell.
@@The_answer42 Where it belongs.
I wish they added a object that creates the giant shadow on oceanborn
Hi winter I get to see many games yet hardly comment great stuff shared here
49:50 @winterstarcraft the problem is that somehow, you will cast 5 series in a week and lowko will cast the exact same 5 series in the week, just in a different order. So clearly there isn't that much good starcraft going on when the overlap is so consistent. It ends up with me being able to watch content for say, Monday to Wednesday, and then the rest of the week your channel and lowko will be repeats of what I already saw. Since I prefer your sarcasm to his singing, I've just had to give up on his channel and check in on it on Sundays in case there's anything you haven't already cast -- typically not. I'd love twice the starcraft though.
Here fot the best villainous nature
28:07
ONE PIECEEEEE
ONE PIECE IS REAAAAAAALLLLLLL
"The floor is Lurkers" I think I'd prefer Lava in this case thank you
Thank You
Om nom nom
BRENDA!!
Ultras are sick they need to give them 3 more armor or something, make them immune to bullets lol
More mirror matches!
I genuenly spat out my drink when i saw Micro Jackson :)
They should give the changelings the ability to do 1 dps, imagine the chaos 😂
"This is how zerg was meant to be played." Of course it's Rogue.
Lib anti-air attack should get a rework or just straight up a nerf
They should still be useful but not dominating completely like in G1
Lmao, the anti-air attack is basically useless except in this specific case, and maybe against mass Corruptor. 1v1, it loses to pretty much everything.
@@LucianDevine they can slightly buff the damage but remove the AoE. That fight in game 1 was stupid at best, and required 0 micro from the Terran but still obliterated a massive Mutalisk army in less than 3 seconds.
23:55 Balance Council: Muta seems a bit strong, Thor might need a small AOE buff 😩
Has been reverted :p
Just based on the thumbnail, this is going to be the best day of my life
A SHARK!!!
After game 1 I can go to sleep and know I'll dream pink dreams
Looks like the new patch is working, I don't see any turtling
Why is a lot of the sc2 casters not getting a lot of comments lately
Cause
@@artemisspawnofzeus7732 oh
13:22😂.... bro i wan to see rogue vs serral... rogue is on fire recently
20.20 yes
i love you Winter
bold of winter to assume that 22 death scv's even concern a terran in the slightest
lmao imagine a zerg losing close to 70 drones in under 15 minutes and still going....
lmao byun didnt "gg" xD
Rouge decided to do a unit test in an actual match. Can 35 muta take on 10 libs if you parasitic bomb one. The answer is no.
Not sure how I feel about the current thumbnail meta. I think at the end of the video you should actually like put in footage of you making the the thumbnail.
Eh, I think it's fine. He shows us something that becomes an important part of the game, in this part the Swarm Hosts.
@LucianDevine I was half joking. I just get annoyed when the thumbnail isn't in the video. I click on it and I want to see it happen! Watch pretty much daily regardless. Love that soothing announcer voice!
@@DjornNorthfield Yeah, Winter's voice and casting style are top notch! So whenever we get Mutas, Swarm Hosts, or BC's, it's just a bonus!
rogues do it from behind! :D
Ultras need more armor, just unkillable hulks
How many counters to mutas do Terran players need? Marines, Ghosts, Liberators, Missile Turrets, Thors all counter them wtf
I come for the pear tree
Why aren't the terrans making just 2 vikings in these overseer games against rogue instead of 40+ turrets?
No joke I think BCs are the counter to this
can somone help me knpow the song at 33:01 ty :=)
Brenda, Susan, and Lucille are always so toxic to each other, I hope one day they can set aside their differences and be wholesome girlbosses together :)
I started playing sc2 again. My 4th got attacked by dt’s and I immediately left 🙃. I was Zerg
I can’t in good conscience keep watching this channel as my mother continues to get insulted. But I’ll probably do it anyway.
Are they ever going to make StarCraft 3 this century? 😅
There is no more they
comment for the the great deity alog
I wonder what the Most Unprofessional Starcraft 2 looks like.
Rogue and shin are inventing new stuff they are so interesting I think serral needs to copy them he seems to just be playing ling bane and playing 2023 zerg
Still working pretty well though, only clem is a real threat to him
uhm where are the mass hosts from the thumbnail? 😐😐
Click bait thumbnail, he does it for every video
Were you actually expecting to see 500 supply of swarm hosts in a game? 😅
They were the vital piece of game 1, just not an entire army of them.
Oh yeah I get why zerg players don't like playing late game against any race.
His ravager micro is really bad
multiple occasions in game 2 where he wastes biles where he could've destroyed the main or the tanks at the third
Lmao, as if his APM isn't completely and utterly taxed by literally everything else going on in that game.
This series just proves once again how absolutely broken and op zerg truly is. Rogue making so many bronze league plays and even throws the game, yet he still wins. Only because he plays zerg. 🤡🤬🤬
Starcraft is better with mutas in it
And Swarm Hosts.
Why does the algo only suggest your videos that Ive already watched from months ago?? :facepalm
Typical winter shitposting before asking for money lol
I DID SUBSCRIBE DONT ASK ALWAYS :D
Soup 91
suvs can heal airborne inits?! really?! dumb af
What is going on with sc2 quality lately? We have sharks below the observer cams. Theres a frozen not animated shark on the south side of the map. Like, come on guys. I know the game is dead but you dont have to beat it.
You show some respect to that shark!!