What is with the transition stinger audio being 10x louder than the voices? Totally blowing my eardrums out in the car. So I turn it down, then I can’t hear the conversation, so I turn it up…endless loop!
Just no trade down, please. No passing on impact players for roster filler. Every time this organization has traded down, it's blown up in their faces. Get a playmaker instead of dealing for the next Phil Taylor and Owen Marecic.
Bakers draft was very good 4 out of the five of the QBs taken in first round was just in the playoffs Rosen is the only one that’s a bust ,Darnold might be .
@@benadek6703 Pundits were saying Rosen was "the most NFL-ready" QB in the draft. He was very polished, threw a nice ball, and was a classic pocket passer. The knock on him was that he wasn't especially athletic. The problem turned out to be that he had already reached his ceiling at UCLA. I think those things apply to Sanders.
Who cares if two overhyped QB’s are available?! Choose Carter, Hunter, Graham…any of the other top 10 players that aren’t there just because they are the best of the really weak positional group. Trade back. Get younger at aging out groups. Then get a QB in the late 2nd or 3rd round when the price is sensible. Get a bridge QB from FA to allow the rookie to sit and get mentored for a while.
Who cares if the 2 overhyped Johnny Manzel type QBs, that can't play in structure, are available because in any other draft class they would be 3rd Round selections and they don't fit Stefanski's system? Neither of them are as good as Deshaun Watson, so if the current staff couldn't figure it out with him, then it would be a total disaster with either of the overhyped QBs in this draft.
Everyone saying McCord will be drafted higher then Howard most likely didn't watch college football often and are just highlight watchers. McCord has no pocket presence or mobility whatsoever. Plus he led college football in INTs, while playing against garbage defenses in the ACC. That's why he wasn't good enough to play in the B1G. Almost everything Howard does is better and he only had 1 year of development under Ryan Day, while McCord had 3. So everything points at Howard having the higher ceiling because he keeps getting better, while McCord keeps making the same errors, due to his limited traits.
@roris5882 I've watched college football all year i get what you saying I'm not saying mccord should be drafted higher howard has the better tools better pocket presence also play fake with the ball is incredible needs to work on those out throws hit thos better but all learning for a college qb I also played sports through every league so my eyes see alot of good and I won't say bad but needs much work me personally howard should go higher I'm going off one of the draft boards I been seeing and key assessments which I always don't agree with we will see what happens and come back to discuss more great feedback
@@roris5882 McCord had 592 attempts, the most in college football. Of course he's going to throw a few more INTs, but his INT% was not out of line with Howard, Sanders and Ewers, better than Milroe, and slightly behind Ward, Gabriel, and Dart.
@@bigredracingdog466 I thought the NCAA granted him another year of eligibility. So is he returning to pad his stats against garbage ACC defenses or is he going pro, because his agent advised him to leave now, due to it being a weak QB draft class, instead of going undrafted, due to having limited traits?
@@roris5882 Not that I'm aware of. He played three years at OSU and one at Syracuse, so he should be out of eligibility unless there is some COVID exemption available. If he gets another year, he could make a lot of NIL money, more than as a mid-round NFL pick.
After watching tape sanders reads the fastest out of all of them. Milroe has a really good arm everyone is putting ward at#1 I disagree. He holds the ball too long to qb for Cleveland. Sanders or Milroe is our best bet. Sanders reads really fast I think that goes a long way
They might be thinking if the browns want Hunter that bad they will give more than they should for the first pick and they can then take Ward or Sanders in the second pick.
Cam Ward and Sanders played soft schedules. Howard played 7 top 10 teams. N.D. 99.1 rating Tex 90.1 Oregon 97.7 & 95.0 Tenn 98.8 Indiana 88.4 Penn State 77.0
@@georgenewtonirwin3257 Who did he play with? He wasn't throwing to Smith and Egbuka, both of whom will easily be 1st-round picks. McCord inherited a 6-7 team and made them a 10-3 team. WR Oronde Gadsden might be a day 3 pick, but no other 'Cuse offensive players look to be drafted except McCord.
All of the cam ward haters just do me one favor go watch Patrick mahomes feet and then watch cam words feet and than tell me they don’t move the same. The feet movement in the pocket is key! They both doesn’t have happy feet it’s more relaxed
Mahomes is elite at playing in and out of structure, that's why he's so dominant. Cam can only play out of structure and he's mediocre at it. So he's no different then Johnny Manzel, because all he wants to do is hold onto the ball too long, run around, and wait for someone to get wide open, like it's backyard football or 7 on 7. Plus Cam is a 6' tall string bean, which is a huge liability in the pros.
Why are we talking about this? This is widely known as a bleek QB class, why would we take these guys anyway. You cant take a QB just because we are so desprite for one. Get Abdul Carter, period!!!
Maybe they can resurrect Justin Fields career, or at least use him as a bridge QB for a year or two, while they develop a younger guy they get out of the draft.
@@roris5882 No no no and no. The guy is a nothing. He would be a better kick returning than QB. He's been in the league long enough to have improved but he hasn't.
Cam isn’t overrated. Superb arm talent. Best in the class. Tremendous accuracy. Plays with extreme poise and confidence. Great improvisational skills. He’s going to put up numbers at the next level.
Get ride of Jay and Bull please! Both guys are soooooooooo negative. Jay leans on his ESPN days too much in his analysis ... and the other guys defer to him because they have not experienced reporrting or hosting shows (radios / TV) at that level. With tha being said ... I feel like they are not great for the show. We don't need "Homers" ... but Jay and Bull are less than attractive as studio anaylsts. I am intelligent enough to know that they will not be fired because of my opinion ... but I will say that that both guys are so negative in their analysis ... especially Bull. My God ... please spare us of this!
He couldn't even get his offense to work with Watson. So what makes anyone think he can get it to work with either of the inferior overhyped QBs in the draft?
@@roris5882 Fact is we have tons of doubts! And for good reason. 10+ QBs to come thru CLE and he couldn’t get 1 of them to work. BUT he’s supposed to be a QB whisperer and get the BEST out of our QBs
McCord has limited traits and no pocket presence or mobility. Plus he struggles at reading defenses because he led college football in INTs, while playing in a weak ACC.
My god, Jay just has to hear himself talk. The interruptions from him show after show is such a turnoff.
Abdul Carter at 2 and if we have to move that 33rd and whatever else to move up and grab Will Howard that’s the move
Yall full of crap. Go look at Josh Allen's body of work in college. Howard is more pro ready than Allen was in 18
You must have lost your mind 🤣
Howard doesn't have the arm talent Allen had. The ball just explodes out of his hand.
Why can’t you guys let anyone finish and talk over one another…
You’d think they’d be even more patient with the Browns news slow down this time of year and try to draw each segment out a bit. 🙄
What is with the transition stinger audio being 10x louder than the voices? Totally blowing my eardrums out in the car. So I turn it down, then I can’t hear the conversation, so I turn it up…endless loop!
Just no trade down, please. No passing on impact players for roster filler. Every time this organization has traded down, it's blown up in their faces. Get a playmaker instead of dealing for the next Phil Taylor and Owen Marecic.
Bakers draft was very good 4 out of the five of the QBs taken in first round was just in the playoffs Rosen is the only one that’s a bust ,Darnold might be .
Good conversation
I think The Browns could draft Will Howard and Jaxson Dart
Agree
Good idea 💡 select 2 QB’s Browns need 3, I like none on there current roster, bring in a veteran QB, maybe Flacco?
Get of The Sanders train. His daddy ain't t letting him come here and I don't want the drama if he does , no more OBJ bullshit.
My comp for Sanders is Josh Rosen.
@@bigredracingdog466hell no
@@benadek6703 Pundits were saying Rosen was "the most NFL-ready" QB in the draft. He was very polished, threw a nice ball, and was a classic pocket passer. The knock on him was that he wasn't especially athletic. The problem turned out to be that he had already reached his ceiling at UCLA. I think those things apply to Sanders.
Who cares if two overhyped QB’s are available?! Choose Carter, Hunter, Graham…any of the other top 10 players that aren’t there just because they are the best of the really weak positional group.
Trade back. Get younger at aging out groups. Then get a QB in the late 2nd or 3rd round when the price is sensible. Get a bridge QB from FA to allow the rookie to sit and get mentored for a while.
Who cares if the 2 overhyped Johnny Manzel type QBs, that can't play in structure, are available because in any other draft class they would be 3rd Round selections and they don't fit Stefanski's system? Neither of them are as good as Deshaun Watson, so if the current staff couldn't figure it out with him, then it would be a total disaster with either of the overhyped QBs in this draft.
Joe burrow also had absurd Talent at LSU he turned out pretty good
I think mccord will be drafted higher his season stats and projection for a ceiling are higher
Everyone saying McCord will be drafted higher then Howard most likely didn't watch college football often and are just highlight watchers. McCord has no pocket presence or mobility whatsoever. Plus he led college football in INTs, while playing against garbage defenses in the ACC. That's why he wasn't good enough to play in the B1G. Almost everything Howard does is better and he only had 1 year of development under Ryan Day, while McCord had 3. So everything points at Howard having the higher ceiling because he keeps getting better, while McCord keeps making the same errors, due to his limited traits.
@roris5882 I've watched college football all year i get what you saying I'm not saying mccord should be drafted higher howard has the better tools better pocket presence also play fake with the ball is incredible needs to work on those out throws hit thos better but all learning for a college qb I also played sports through every league so my eyes see alot of good and I won't say bad but needs much work me personally howard should go higher I'm going off one of the draft boards I been seeing and key assessments which I always don't agree with we will see what happens and come back to discuss more great feedback
@@roris5882 McCord had 592 attempts, the most in college football. Of course he's going to throw a few more INTs, but his INT% was not out of line with Howard, Sanders and Ewers, better than Milroe, and slightly behind Ward, Gabriel, and Dart.
@@bigredracingdog466 I thought the NCAA granted him another year of eligibility. So is he returning to pad his stats against garbage ACC defenses or is he going pro, because his agent advised him to leave now, due to it being a weak QB draft class, instead of going undrafted, due to having limited traits?
@@roris5882 Not that I'm aware of. He played three years at OSU and one at Syracuse, so he should be out of eligibility unless there is some COVID exemption available. If he gets another year, he could make a lot of NIL money, more than as a mid-round NFL pick.
Please pick Will Howard
After watching tape sanders reads the fastest out of all of them. Milroe has a really good arm everyone is putting ward at#1 I disagree. He holds the ball too long to qb for Cleveland. Sanders or Milroe is our best bet. Sanders reads really fast I think that goes a long way
Why not if they think Travis is generational. Why would they trade down they miss out on him
They might be thinking if the browns want Hunter that bad they will give more than they should for the first pick and they can then take Ward or Sanders in the second pick.
Trade #2 for a first between 7 to 11 and a Pick in the 2nd and 3rd round for 2025 and a 2nd in 2026.
What happened to ken Dorsey 😅😂😂
Tenn might go Defense 🤔
Every year the same speech. And just about every year the same results. As a fan he quit falling for the BS
First round Abdul Carter second round will Howard 3rd round cam scatter boo
Cam Ward and Sanders played soft schedules. Howard played 7 top 10 teams.
N.D. 99.1 rating
Tex 90.1
Oregon 97.7 & 95.0
Tenn 98.8
Indiana 88.4
Penn State 77.0
DID THEY FORGET MG95 WAS A NO.1 PICK?
I can promise you everyone dismissing McCord as a legitimate NFL talent hasnt watched his tape from THIS season.
Who did they play?
@@georgenewtonirwin3257 Who did he play with? He wasn't throwing to Smith and Egbuka, both of whom will easily be 1st-round picks. McCord inherited a 6-7 team and made them a 10-3 team. WR Oronde Gadsden might be a day 3 pick, but no other 'Cuse offensive players look to be drafted except McCord.
Kyle McCord = Cody Kessler 2.0
All of the cam ward haters just do me one favor go watch Patrick mahomes feet and then watch cam words feet and than tell me they don’t move the same. The feet movement in the pocket is key! They both doesn’t have happy feet it’s more relaxed
Mahomes is elite at playing in and out of structure, that's why he's so dominant. Cam can only play out of structure and he's mediocre at it. So he's no different then Johnny Manzel, because all he wants to do is hold onto the ball too long, run around, and wait for someone to get wide open, like it's backyard football or 7 on 7. Plus Cam is a 6' tall string bean, which is a huge liability in the pros.
Abdul Carter or bust
Get travis hunter and sign kirk cousins... best outcome for now...
Cleveland go get Carr
Why are we talking about this? This is widely known as a bleek QB class, why would we take these guys anyway. You cant take a QB just because we are so desprite for one. Get Abdul Carter, period!!!
Move down a bit get Carter . Draft a QB later.
Cleveland go get Carr quit being a clown show
All the pks Cleveland has in the draft they should draft two QBs
Possible Will Howard and Jaxson Dart
Maybe they can resurrect Justin Fields career, or at least use him as a bridge QB for a year or two, while they develop a younger guy they get out of the draft.
@@roris5882 No no no and no. The guy is a nothing. He would be a better kick returning than QB. He's been in the league long enough to have improved but he hasn't.
💯💪🏻
Cleveland is back to being a clown show get Carr do you trust your coaches..Baker in tampa has better HC OC and company. Stefanski should be fired
I think Bryce Young is the worst one
Titans are trying to sell the pick, nothing more.
...or just trying to inflate Deion's ego (and fan excitement) ahead of the pick.
Probably, both QBs aren't very good and are being overhyped because the QB class is so weak.
Nah! Titans need to sell tickets! They might take Shedeur
I want Will Howard or Milroe over Ward or Sanders. I've watched the tape and looked at the stats ward and sanders are overrated
Are you high or drunk? You Sir are an imbecile, if dumb was a person you'd be it !
This is the right answer
CRAZY!
Cam isn’t overrated. Superb arm talent. Best in the class. Tremendous accuracy. Plays with extreme poise and confidence. Great improvisational skills. He’s going to put up numbers at the next level.
Ridiculous
Get ride of Jay and Bull please! Both guys are soooooooooo negative. Jay leans on his ESPN days too much in his analysis ... and the other guys defer to him because they have not experienced reporrting or hosting shows (radios / TV) at that level. With tha being said ... I feel like they are not great for the show. We don't need "Homers" ... but Jay and Bull are less than attractive as studio anaylsts. I am intelligent enough to know that they will not be fired because of my opinion ... but I will say that that both guys are so negative in their analysis ... especially Bull. My God ... please spare us of this!
0% chance Ward AND Sanders are there at #2
ZERO. PERCENT.
WHY are we talking about this dumb shit?!?!??
Neither are 1st Round caliber QBs.
Stefanski is a terrible play caller. This is gonna get ugly next year
back to staring into the Denny's menu in the 4th quarter while the team melts down
Stefanski definitely feeling heat after scapegoating AVP Ken Dorsey back to back years
He couldn't even get his offense to work with Watson. So what makes anyone think he can get it to work with either of the inferior overhyped QBs in the draft?
@@roris5882 Fact is we have tons of doubts! And for good reason. 10+ QBs to come thru CLE and he couldn’t get 1 of them to work. BUT he’s supposed to be a QB whisperer and get the BEST out of our QBs
you’re retarded excuse my language
I LUV McCord.The sleeper of this draft and nobody talking about him. And Please,please,please NO Travis Hunter- God no
McCord has limited traits and no pocket presence or mobility. Plus he struggles at reading defenses because he led college football in INTs, while playing in a weak ACC.
I'm OK with Hunter at #2, but I'd rather have Carter.