Paris Motor Show HIGHLIGHT REPORT Mondial de l’Automobile 2016 Autosalon

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    FULL PARIS COVERAGE! This is the complete Motor Show report from AJ and Thomas here on Autogefuehl - enjoy it all in one video :-)
    timecode index for the cars:
    00:21 La Ferrari Spyder
    01:05 Alfa Giulia Veloce
    02:01 Citroen C3 & C3 WRC
    03:56 Renault Trezor electric concept & new Zoe Update 400 km
    06:05 BMW X2
    08:30 Mercedes E-Class All-Terrain
    11:14 Mercedes Generation EQ Concept & Smart Electric
    14:58 Toyota C-HR
    19:58 Land Rover Discovery 5
    27:28 Lexus Kinetic Seats concept
    34:56 Seat Ateca X-Perience
    47:18 Seat Connectivity
    54:43 Audi Q5
    01:07:30 Audi S5 Coupé vs S5 Sportback
    01:26:20 Peugeot 3008
    01:40:46 Volkswagen I.D. concept
    02:01:08 Volkswagen e-Golf Touch
    02:12:23 Opel Ampera-E / Chevrolet Bolt EV
    02:31:11 Skoda Kodiaq with CEO interviews
    02:56:11 Porsche Panamera 4e Plugin-Hybrid
    03:16:01 Future Cockpit with supplier Faurecia
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  • @autogefuehl
    @autogefuehl  5 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Later enjoy the next Paris episode: th-cam.com/video/aACRCfkanzs/w-d-xo.html

    • @Damianmp3
      @Damianmp3 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      . §.

    • @thomaslindstad4612
      @thomaslindstad4612 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Damian37207))&

    • @rcn0713
      @rcn0713 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Pamela

    • @user-nq9go5kx9o
      @user-nq9go5kx9o 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Damian Beats سءقققسصسظيسسيسيفيثسظسيسغيسيسسييسسسييس:سيفسيي

    • @user-nq9go5kx9o
      @user-nq9go5kx9o 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ص
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      وصوبصووثثوز

  • @dr_pari
    @dr_pari 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Watching this almost 2 years later, its great to see the growth in production value that Autogefuhl has gone through. Of course, this highlight report is excellent, showing the core of Autogefuhl. Its also great to show all the vehicles in 1 show.

    • @autogefuehl
      @autogefuehl  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Daniel Sharma great u are with us!

    • @conlosmorchitti5832
      @conlosmorchitti5832 ปีที่แล้ว

      2 years of growth still dont know what carbon fiber is

  • @caet49
    @caet49 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Just perfect run down of the motor show - thx AJ and Thomas!

    • @autogefuehl
      @autogefuehl  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      do not forget the people behind the camera :D

  • @systemfails
    @systemfails 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    One word, thank you for preparing this video in full HD

  • @vasileiosmoschopoulos9340
    @vasileiosmoschopoulos9340 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Congrats!!!!!!This is one of the best videos produced from motor shows which make you feel, as the viewer is on the motor show!!!!!!

    • @autogefuehl
      @autogefuehl  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Vasileios Moschopoulos 👏👏👏

    • @timogronroos4642
      @timogronroos4642 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Digitalization is also about the fact that place and time are not that important anymore. You get information fast and where you are, at the time convenient for you. I'm sitting home now and just got 3,5h of total experience what Paris motorshow had to offer with zero litres of petrol or jet fuel consumed.
      I feel you are changing the game how internet and social media is used in car related reporting and reviews. Thank you and concratulations, You've done excellent job developing your franchise.

  • @techexplorer9382
    @techexplorer9382 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for the show coverage , enjoyed it !

  • @thanasisk
    @thanasisk 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great work covering this event! Well done !!

    • @autogefuehl
      @autogefuehl  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      thanks, tune in for more reviews!

  • @byronohene-adu5104
    @byronohene-adu5104 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks for this. Nice video of everything put together.

  • @MrAB0712
    @MrAB0712 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great job guys !!! Thomas you found a good partner. AJ did good. Looks like you trained him well 😊

  • @Kol2388
    @Kol2388 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    3 and a half hours, you guys outdone yourself this time :), great job as always.

  • @autogefuehl
    @autogefuehl  7 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    FULL PARIS COVERAGE! This is the complete Motor Show report from AJ and Thomas here on Autogefuehl - enjoy it all in one video :-)

    • @raszze
      @raszze 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Autogefühl not true u forgot the rio

    • @sanjogar
      @sanjogar 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thomas made a complete review of the New Rio a few days ago. Search for it.

    • @autogefuehl
      @autogefuehl  7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      th-cam.com/video/y0wTdJA-w0k/w-d-xo.html

    • @RichlanLoTS
      @RichlanLoTS 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      What about the RS3!!?? :)

    • @wasims7391
      @wasims7391 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wye don't you have skoda yeti

  • @jansingh9680
    @jansingh9680 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great coverage AJ and Thomas, thanks.

  • @kobbetop
    @kobbetop 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I thought Thomas is the only one capable of doing a video in middle of all that madness and people everywhere but I was wrong, "AJ" is doing a great job! I have still about 3 hours to watch, this is going to take a while Lol

    • @autogefuehl
      @autogefuehl  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Kobbetop 👍👍👍

  • @karldu45
    @karldu45 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    very good audio and video quality pleasant to watch

  • @beefbroth6539
    @beefbroth6539 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really appreciate these videos guys (and girls)

  • @olaflind8436
    @olaflind8436 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    REMEMBER THIS PLACE!I WAS BEEN HERE!GREAT SHOW!

    • @autogefuehl
      @autogefuehl  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks! Also tune in for more Motor show coverage

  • @zaphod2
    @zaphod2 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent coverage !

  • @garydavey7925
    @garydavey7925 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your coverage has been diverse and excellent. Thanks again Thomas. Oh by the way I need to know your diet as you keep a slim waste line.
    Gary from Australia

    • @autogefuehl
      @autogefuehl  6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks m8! Thats easy, skip meat and milk and eat as many vegetables, potatoes, etc other whole foods as u want. And sports along side. Take as many nutrients directly plant based and as unprocessed as possible :-) six pack is possible then too :)

  • @HermunM
    @HermunM 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I feel like, I dont need to even go now. Great video

  • @NikisXpro
    @NikisXpro 5 ปีที่แล้ว +176

    dunno why but i woke up to this.

  • @damianlopezsoto2151
    @damianlopezsoto2151 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Me desperté con este vídeo, jaja :p

  • @ktruong2802
    @ktruong2802 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    keep up the good work!!!

    • @autogefuehl
      @autogefuehl  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      we'll do!

    • @abeybound8935
      @abeybound8935 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      هخبببل8غن98ج0تنفنننهت0جح998867تت

  • @Munzyzdaman1
    @Munzyzdaman1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Renault Concept looks awesome

  • @minibus1351
    @minibus1351 7 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    wow. who needs to go to paris when i got this?

  • @Hmmmppffff
    @Hmmmppffff 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for offering such a detailed view on the Paris motorshow!
    Hard work, Appreciate that :b

    • @autogefuehl
      @autogefuehl  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      thanks for noticing! =)

  • @martinc.8697
    @martinc.8697 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome Reviews ! I was very surprised by the ceiling of the S5 Coupé's trunk : the subwoofer's electrical cables are visible and will possibly be torn off when pulling out luggage (you can see them at 1:15:00). Also, gotta love the "...which is not the case..." about the animal skin being top luxury in the S5 sportback.

  • @BleakMidWinter696
    @BleakMidWinter696 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    The way the 2nd guys pronounces "car" in the Audi is just next level

  • @zioo3117
    @zioo3117 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Porsche Hybrid Panamera has an absolutely beautiful interior. The flexibility of the hybrid is quite interesting and shows forward thinking by the Porsche design sector. The wide screen on the infotainment center is also amazing. Nice to have some buttons for the termperature controls. The Tach in the middle is great. Like the cup or beverage holders which again is all about luxury. Knee room is still a bit too minimal. Another six inches plus concave rear seats would add to the room. AF

  • @Monkey_D_Luffy56
    @Monkey_D_Luffy56 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Uploaded 3 Years Ago and had a length of 3 hours 33 mins and 33 secs and viewed almost 3 million times

  • @XxROCKSTARxX3
    @XxROCKSTARxX3 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Bruh wtf I just woke up, my phone has 3% _!| this video Was playing lmao

  • @ArunKumar-ck9qx
    @ArunKumar-ck9qx 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    does maruthi swift 2017 edition launched in paris motor show ???? Autogefuhl ??? PLZ recommend the video ???

  • @jakeclick5785
    @jakeclick5785 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The new presenter is great!

    • @autogefuehl
      @autogefuehl  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yeah!

    • @kayanoreeves1949
      @kayanoreeves1949 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, good addition to the mix. How about a lady, too?

  • @mathewl753
    @mathewl753 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I watched the whole thing while sleeping though, I slept to the video thanks

  • @sjmedia_official
    @sjmedia_official 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I dont have time to watch it all, at what time point do you show the cars from LEXUS? Thanks

    • @autogefuehl
      @autogefuehl  7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +Super Jozzef try 1.25 speed

  • @guyspeedingbyou
    @guyspeedingbyou 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would love to buy those tires at 5.00 min. Are you listening Continental?

  • @4lemer
    @4lemer 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hmmm... Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King or this? Seriously, the video length! Kudos to the editor!

    • @autogefuehl
      @autogefuehl  7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +MyriadesusTV 👍👍🎬🎬👍👍

  • @LivinforPorsch
    @LivinforPorsch 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I woke up to this in the middle of video hahahaha

  • @JeffParker1975
    @JeffParker1975 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thomas, can you work your magic and convince the guys from Audi to bring the A5 and S5 Sportback to North America?!?!

    • @autogefuehl
      @autogefuehl  7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      +Jeff Parker will do

  • @mc7894
    @mc7894 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    nice video!

  • @basedcaveman
    @basedcaveman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    anyone watching Doug, fell asleep and woke to this?

  • @_.F.B.I
    @_.F.B.I 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I fell asleep watching 5 cheap cars that make you look rich and woke up turned on my phone and this was the video I was watching

  • @autogefuehl
    @autogefuehl  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Also check out Geneva Motor Show coverage: th-cam.com/video/AlZuTQsv5SM/w-d-xo.html

  • @Intuicean
    @Intuicean 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Last two guys sound exactly like each other.

  • @guillermomarmolejomontever6635
    @guillermomarmolejomontever6635 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excelentes autos .....!!!!!!!!

  • @Blvck0ne
    @Blvck0ne 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why has there been no video of the S5 Sportback?

    • @autogefuehl
      @autogefuehl  7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +G Will online now and also included here!

    • @Blvck0ne
      @Blvck0ne 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Awesome, you guys rock. Thank you for the high quality content.

  • @MirkoMarton
    @MirkoMarton 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    very informative...

  • @jamesfigueroa382
    @jamesfigueroa382 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i love them..! :)

  • @donshilo2024
    @donshilo2024 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    24:15 the Chinese is taking all details to bring back home to build their copy.

    • @HarrietThugman
      @HarrietThugman 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't think you can be more right.

  • @antoinecurry9374
    @antoinecurry9374 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    happy new year

  • @livc444111
    @livc444111 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't want to watch the whole thing, is there a breakdown available?

  • @spycaralarmoffical1355
    @spycaralarmoffical1355 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing

  • @ivossmarttv468
    @ivossmarttv468 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    New Micra review in the pipeline?

  • @antoinecurry9374
    @antoinecurry9374 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    what about an e class suv

  • @nhilal94
    @nhilal94 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    No RS3??! :(

  • @edsmith1757
    @edsmith1757 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love joyful elements

  • @shajirabeegum5276
    @shajirabeegum5276 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i want the lexus kinetic seats now

  • @harryaxe5167
    @harryaxe5167 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please stop saying "NAV not integrated". The NAV center line should be at the" highest line of sight" to avoid looking down off the road to view when the car is in motion!!!

  • @kuruption1983
    @kuruption1983 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    khafeh sho kaleh kiri!

  • @afg__gamer4911
    @afg__gamer4911 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    the difference between a5 coupe and sportback are enormously

  • @allnadj1127
    @allnadj1127 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    كل العالم يستعرض عضلاته و كل ما وصلت اليه عقولهم و مجهوداتهم لقرون و نحن العرب.... 😑😑😑

  • @curtissharris8914
    @curtissharris8914 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    listening @ 1.25

  • @errolthorpe4429
    @errolthorpe4429 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2018 Volvo XC60 handbook

  • @quavohuncho6156
    @quavohuncho6156 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Where is the new 5 series 😒😭

    • @autogefuehl
      @autogefuehl  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      we ll drive that in december!

    • @quavohuncho6156
      @quavohuncho6156 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Autogefühl so the release date is in december?

    • @autogefuehl
      @autogefuehl  7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      press presentation, market launch is usually two to three months later

  • @jeffk464
    @jeffk464 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    uhm, 3 hours is highlights?

  • @gugleOwnsUs
    @gugleOwnsUs 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    75k, a true family car...

  • @yahyayarim5774
    @yahyayarim5774 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Rica etsem altyazı seçeneklerine Türkçe dil seçeneği ekleyebilir misiniz? Sizi anlamak ve takip etmek istiyorum!!!

  • @Valdismith
    @Valdismith 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    58:00 This seat is so much like an Audi Q5, that I don't see the reason to buy an Audi. Only interior looks more simple like a Q3.

  • @SyedShoaibMahmood
    @SyedShoaibMahmood 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    AJ bhai! Why you dont reply! Bhaiiiiii

  • @marciano4696
    @marciano4696 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do a speaks white Tomas mojchrzak
    I understand you work great job 👏

  • @user-kk2iv8nl3x
    @user-kk2iv8nl3x 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    24:53 soo he's about to produce the neew chineeese model

  • @lastnamefirstname520
    @lastnamefirstname520 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    the ateca xperience would have been cool.. too bad it never came out

  • @paultastic
    @paultastic 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    How was your nap

  • @adriantrevino4781
    @adriantrevino4781 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    nice

  • @hdkeemii8315
    @hdkeemii8315 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    woke up to this

  • @tvcghost2300
    @tvcghost2300 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Auto play gang were you at

  • @adityaverma1150
    @adityaverma1150 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    please start adding timestamps in all your videos as not everyone can watch a 3-4 hours video

    • @autogefuehl
      @autogefuehl  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      check out our 2nd channel with shorter videos: th-cam.com/users/autogefuel

  • @ivanpintaric3248
    @ivanpintaric3248 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    suzuki ignis ;)

  • @hualingxian2325
    @hualingxian2325 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    i feel like renault is WAY too focused on concept cars

  • @Frog55jon
    @Frog55jon 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    the presenter is good

  • @errolthorpe4429
    @errolthorpe4429 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Handbook Volvo XC60

  • @jakekar4713
    @jakekar4713 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    keepit up

    • @autogefuehl
      @autogefuehl  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      thanks! Also tune in to our newest motor show coverage: th-cam.com/video/aACRCfkanzs/w-d-xo.html

  • @12jazon
    @12jazon 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow...1996 called, they want their microphone back!

    • @autogefuehl
      @autogefuehl  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We use handheld microphones in situations where we want to cut out background noise you are then not hearing - or in situations with interview partners where it is better to switch between those people then. We don’t do anything without intention :) The big microphone is furthermore way better than anything else u could record camera sound with. Always the best quality for you without noise. In general the big microphone delivers a way better, clear and crisp sound than the small one which is more pleasant to listen to, especially if a video is going over a longer period of time. Even the ASMR effect works better with the big mic. If you watch some other reviews or every driving part of a review, you ll see that we also have a couple of small lavalier microphones which are also high class, and of course we use that for driving because the big one wouldn’t be safe there. Still, we adapt to the situation and strive for getting the audible experience for you. With the handheld, you can make it calm and silent when the background is noisy. Sometimes you see what’s going on in the background, sometimes you wouldn’t expect what annoying sounds would be picked up. Another reason is the branding for the big microphones since our videos are also being stolen, downloaded uploaded etc. so we at least have our branding there in situations we cannot completely control. Also in general it is good to have a nice branding on location and in the video. So you see there are numerous good reasons for us to use it.

    • @12jazon
      @12jazon 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@autogefuehl I can totally see your reasons! Thanks!

    • @autogefuehl
      @autogefuehl  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for your interest :) We ll also air a funny little episode about that microphone now for christmas - stay tuned :)

    • @autogefuehl
      @autogefuehl  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/q8mbwezd_VY/w-d-xo.html

  • @Santiboni1999
    @Santiboni1999 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2:39:22 lol

  • @adrian__4678
    @adrian__4678 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Like!

  • @johngeorge5684
    @johngeorge5684 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    WOW

  • @andreaziz5499
    @andreaziz5499 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    BMW trying to compete with YUGO and DActha segment

  • @Hmmmppffff
    @Hmmmppffff 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    ja ? ernsthaft ?
    3:33:32 ???
    da hättet ihr wirklich auch 3:33:33 rausmachen können.
    Das tut mir gerade richtig weh in der Seele XD

    • @autogefuehl
      @autogefuehl  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Witzig, mir zeigt er 3:33:33 an :)

  • @cancimcem
    @cancimcem 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    xc90 excellence??

    • @autogefuehl
      @autogefuehl  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Schmanberque 1 volvo not in paris

    • @cancimcem
      @cancimcem 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Autogefühl i know i know thank you for your reply. İ just want to tell you. And told you many times on different reviews. I hope we can see soon xc90 excellence also

  • @aldoberetta9198
    @aldoberetta9198 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    L'Alfa Romeo wear out those who don't.

  • @rolexkings7747
    @rolexkings7747 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    S5 Coupe

  • @loyallion6477
    @loyallion6477 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Id love for it to be 3:33:33 and not 3:33:32 LOL

  • @BINGH0ST
    @BINGH0ST 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    3:33:33 lol

  • @addaboyroy
    @addaboyroy 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    i want those seats now. but maybe make it look more traditional.

  • @amdrew5667
    @amdrew5667 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    What price will the new Skoda Kodiaq?

    • @autogefuehl
      @autogefuehl  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Andrzej Kwarcinski 25k

  • @A_t_l_a_s__
    @A_t_l_a_s__ 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    we Wawa

  • @arisporrazzo4268
    @arisporrazzo4268 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    🌠🌠🌠🌠🌟

  • @Victic005
    @Victic005 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nissan Matima.

  • @hamster0147
    @hamster0147 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    no HONDA 😢

  • @luigineirottif.d.mazzoleni6862
    @luigineirottif.d.mazzoleni6862 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ok

  • @goldie260
    @goldie260 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    too many hybrids.... what a waste
    ....