NEW BALANCE FUELCELL REBEL 4 - LIGHT & NIMBLE DAILY SHOE OF 2024? ALMOST GREAT! - EDDBUD

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    NEW BALANCE FUELCELL REBEL 4 - LIGHT & NIMBLE DAILY SHOE OF 2024? ALMOST GREAT! - EDDBUD
    An initial review of the NEW BALANCE FUELCELL REBEL 4, a shoe i have picked up after asking my viewers what model they wanted me to test out.
    I bought these with my own cash for £125 from FOOTLOCKER here in the UK.
    I comment on the upper, midsole and outsole after my initial efforts.
    Let me know your thoughts and opinions down in the comments.
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  • @bjelar
    @bjelar 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    Dear TH-cam algorithm, I hope this comment finds you in good health. Please let this comment serve as my intent to boost Mr. Bud's videos in you algorithm. Yours faithfully, bjelar.

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Most appreciated!

    • @KoIhara
      @KoIhara หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      TH-cam algorithm should totally boost Mr. bud’s channel!

  • @Manuel-901
    @Manuel-901 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Good morning. Brilliant information and the brilliant running shoe of Nb. Like to EDDBUD. A nice saturday for everyone.

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Glad you enjoyed it

  • @neilcooper3882
    @neilcooper3882 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I really like the rebel v4 - great daily trainer for me! I don't have any problems with the upper, I've got "normal" width feet and find the upper is roomy but not so much that it's an issue. Very comfy. It works well for me at all paces from easy recovery up to tempo/10k pace. Highly recommended!

  • @Bodhished
    @Bodhished 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Mine are on the way. Rebel v2 was lacking in stack for me.
    V3 was one of my favorite shoes and I finished off 2 pairs. Was great for everything.
    Little concerned about the upper as the v3 was the most comfortable upper I have used.

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hope they work for you

  • @TimThalman
    @TimThalman 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Coming from a guy that has a foot shaped foot, it is refreshing to get a shoe that accommodates people like me. I realize it doesn't work for you but I love it!! Not everyone has a narrow foot.

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It’s not the narrow nature. It’s the fact the upper is so high in the midfoot. The toebox is actually quite low

    • @TimThalman
      @TimThalman 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@EDDBUD I have a high midfoot as well, I guess that is why it fits me so perfectly. BTW...I got the wide version

    • @tonybowen455
      @tonybowen455 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@EDDBUD I def think it's a quirky shoe. I'm surprised how well reviewed it is so far on youtube. I expected to see more reviews like yours mixed in.

  • @artwersky
    @artwersky หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great to hear your review i have been looking forward for it

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  หลายเดือนก่อน

      The upper ruins this one for me

  • @lkwa90
    @lkwa90 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    I have wide feet and these fit great! I would recommend staying with the standard D width, as the 2E wide is a tad roomy (whereas the 2E wide for the Rebel v2 fit like a glove). If you want to tighten up the fit and happen to also own the 1080 v13, I would swap the two insoles because those ones are very thick.
    As for the ride, nothing exciting at slower paces, but once you pick up the pace this thing bounces!

    • @willmarklew9612
      @willmarklew9612 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Where did you buy the V4 in 2E fit, I can’t find them anywhere?!

    • @nathancarter450
      @nathancarter450 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      New Balance Ds feel like other brands’ 2Es

  • @bhky
    @bhky 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Thanks for the review!

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      My pleasure!

  • @user-st9uc4ue4c
    @user-st9uc4ue4c 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Great review. Thank you!

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Glad it was helpful!

  • @insomniaforever6444
    @insomniaforever6444 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Thanks for the review Edd. I picked up the v3 recently on sale so I'll be using those for a while and probably miss this version.

    • @ryanmiskin8925
      @ryanmiskin8925 หลายเดือนก่อน

      x2 I got the two for $100 deal, using one for casual wear and one for track work or short/easy jogs around the neighborhood.

  • @timtrenholm3698
    @timtrenholm3698 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Consensus seems to be that the midsole is 20% PEBA and 80% EVA. NewBalance have always been a wider shoe than most. Only shoes I have ever had pinky or big toe blisters on were NewBalance due to the slight side to side movement that could happen. Seems like a great shoe, if you can get the lockdown to work for you...I'll pass.

  • @dhgpan
    @dhgpan 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Good morning ! Thank you very much!

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Good morning!

  • @pbpete8196
    @pbpete8196 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Hi Edd, I haven't had any issue with the upper or the lockdown. To be fair I do have a wider foot. I did also go true to size.

  • @pandjichristian7872
    @pandjichristian7872 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Ed - these shoes are perfect for my voluminous feet! I used to have to use my wooden shoe trees to stretch out the V3 a little bit. (They were my favourite) These V4 are absolutely perfect for my feet now ❤

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Glad they are hitting the spot

  • @mikephillips5483
    @mikephillips5483 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I think the upper of this shoe is outstanding. Disappears on my feet, which is my favorite attribute of any shoe. I went up half a size and it’s perfect for me-almost like people have differently shaped feet. Hmm.

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It’s awful in the larger sizes. Totally wrong scaling

  • @InsaneClock
    @InsaneClock 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I love the colorway!

    • @LAMerc76
      @LAMerc76 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Fuckin Facts.

  • @dhgpan
    @dhgpan 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I laughed so hard when i saw Tim Grose's review! He got that mango colorway and the shoe looked horrific in the first review 🤣

    • @TimGrose
      @TimGrose 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      It isn't great if you have narrow feet for sure! Mango colour I think is OK TBF.

  • @klipk7296
    @klipk7296 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Glad one of the manufacturers is making more accommodating uppers. Adizero range, puma in general, nike in general, hoka in general, Salomon in general and saucony toe boxes all cater to narrow footed people. Medium footers can get away with it, but us wide footers have nothing but New Balance and maybe a few from Asics. If we are lucky, we will be offered a wide version of specific shoes, but they will rarely be in stock, and they will never be discounted

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You could get a family in there

    • @thisisbenji90
      @thisisbenji90 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I agree, so many running shoes are just far too narrow. These New Balances are one of the only shoes that don't make the sides of my feet hurt.

  • @user-cc9ld9oq7b
    @user-cc9ld9oq7b 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Always worth sitting through the review for the musical interlude 😉

  • @iakona23
    @iakona23 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I remember testing out the Rebel V2 and feeling like I was stepping on squishy slime. I did not like the feeling of that very soft midsole at all!

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Similar vibes here. Bronze 3rd comment

  • @TheScottyLincoln
    @TheScottyLincoln 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The best way I describe this shoe is a shoe you grab when you just want to go out for a run and not worry about anything. Just a great fun shoe. In Marathon training though I use this as a lightweight easy day shoe and feels great on the legs

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Not for me. The socks need to be thick. The laces the right tension. The insole slides around. Too much to faff with sadly.

  • @glyndonwakeman7420
    @glyndonwakeman7420 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Picked up a pair and went a half size down from usual because of the voluminous upper and the width. Bordering on too short. After an initial few km I added a 2mm Powerrun+ topsole section in the rearfoot (from an old pair of Saucony Ride) to counter that sinking feeling in the rear foot. There's not enough height in the toebox to add the full-length topsole (I tried...briefly). As a bigger runner (~200lbs to you Brits) I don't think the midsole will last too long. I've found with a number of NB shoes (1080, Beacon, 880) that they are a bit too soft and bottom out / lose their cushion quickly. This is giving the same impression. Will be using it for easy runs only I think. That said, I tried some strides and it seemed to come to life (at

    • @axlrosea675
      @axlrosea675 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for the info. My 1080 v13 bottomed out quickly as well and at 82 kg I wouldn't call myself heavy tbh.

  • @michalp351
    @michalp351 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    For me extra space was not an issue.
    I found them perfect for easy runs

  • @sledge144
    @sledge144 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    I love mine. They are not the perfect shoe, but I love putting them on and going out with them.
    Definitely more an uptempo trainer than long run shoe for me.

  • @Stevenc1984
    @Stevenc1984 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    The unicorn shoe is surely the Boston? This one seems more like a rhino loose in the city 🦏

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Yeah Boston is easily better than this. Same price too

    • @captaincaveman9411
      @captaincaveman9411 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@EDDBUDTks for recommending the B12 to me, love the ride of the shoe! Thinking of getting another running shoe. What would you suggest that has a similar ride and bounce to B12?

  • @tehhalia903
    @tehhalia903 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    living in the middle east, I appreciate nb upper being as breathable as previous iteration.

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The upper is nice and breathable. Shame it’s like a parachute.

  • @ianpayton3639
    @ianpayton3639 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Interesting that the voluminous upper didn’t work. Given there has been a lot of love from other reviews for this shoe, I’m wondering if NB have nailed it in the smaller sizes, but have missed a trick when converting up to larger shoe sizes? 🤔

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I recall one reviewer mentioned it was a great shoe. But had to use plasters on the heel as it rubbed and made his foot bleed. Only 1 shoe out of hundreds did that to me!

    • @levandmarthapolyakin-aaron2183
      @levandmarthapolyakin-aaron2183 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I wear perhaps THE most standard, common women’s size, US9. And the upper gave me the very same issues as EDDBUD details. So it’s not a matter of converting to larger sizes.

    • @kevanwilkinson5569
      @kevanwilkinson5569 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@EDDBUDThere have been quite a few influencers not being quite as practical as you with comments about blisters, poor lockdown yet closing with it’s a great shoe go and buy it. Just wish we had moreEDBUD’s in the world.

  • @albertteng1191
    @albertteng1191 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I have the rc elite v4 since january, and its very good. Nice bounce, not as squashy as before, very pronounce toe-off. Then i got the rebel last march, run a few kms with it. Its softer than the elite, but not as soft as previous rebels. Its also a bit wobbly but tolerable. The upper is the same in the elite and the rebel, same material, same fit.

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      In this case i shall avoid the elite!

  • @ThatRunnerAaron
    @ThatRunnerAaron 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Think I’ll l hold off on this one & wait to see what the reviews on the SC Pacer come out like.

  • @garethmorgan7474
    @garethmorgan7474 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I can see the Hoka skyward x behind you ed, very excited for that shoe review

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It’s certainly an interesting one. Certainly what is classed as max cushion!

    • @garethmorgan7474
      @garethmorgan7474 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@EDDBUD your review will decide if I am going buy them or not

  • @saddleback7662
    @saddleback7662 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    You know, I eagerly waited for the Rebel 4 - to the point of staying up till 12:01 a.m. when it was released here in the States on the NB website. What a disappointment! I mean, I’m not the heaviest guy at 128lbs., and it felt like I was slogging in pudding - kind of like your feet in a bad dream, when they just won’t move. Can’t imagine how the midsole would react to a heavier runner. You are very generous in your review! Fortunately, I was able to return them, and bought a super-discounted Mach 5.

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It’s cushioned but without much return to form

  • @i.p2088
    @i.p2088 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I have wide feet and had to go down half a size.. In EU sizes.

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      With a wide foot?! Crazy

  • @OsloVM60-64
    @OsloVM60-64 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I agree that the shoe is easy to place in the wrong category. It is very light and looks agressive like a race shoe, but it is actually a daily trainer. I like it though, and the upper fits me very good😊

  • @Vu-lq5se
    @Vu-lq5se 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Ive had this shoe for 3 weeks and done numerous short and long runs. Havent had any issues with the upper. The toe box is slightly wider than V3 and V2 but I prefer this for my longer 20km+ runs when my foot has expanded. I went true to size as there was no need to go half size up with wider shoe. Great fun shoe for fast and easy pace.

  • @JeremyGiese
    @JeremyGiese 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Got a pair, for me I knew immediately I really liked them with initial try on then confirming it even more after afew runs. Upper works just fine and no issues for my normal width.
    For context, I’m “bigger” at 6’2 192-194lbs with a midfoot/forefoot striker.

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Glad they are ok. The upper is ridiculously large in my pair.

  • @joaofernandes2942
    @joaofernandes2942 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for your review Edd 👌
    I was thinking of buying the Rebel V4, but after your review I'll wait untill I try them on store to see how my feet adapt to those shoes.
    You're a true Earth Credits saviour 😂

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes defo try them first 👍🏼

  • @stevegilbert1023
    @stevegilbert1023 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    BRED sighting! 👌

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It’s a beauty.

  • @tazpengra
    @tazpengra 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I have two runs, a 5 and 10 miler. It's ok bordering on good for me as it checks my preferred boxes of light, cushioned, and flexible. My biggest issue is upper length; as with the Rebel2 (I skipped the 3), it runs about half to full size short for my shape of foot. I went half size large and it's barely long enough to avoid lost toenails, I definitely have to wear thin socks. Coupled with the wider toebox, it's a puzzle to get a good fit. I have a "Celtic" foot shape.

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Perfect length wise for me. It’s the upper height in the midfoot that is too much

  • @EricS-uf9mv
    @EricS-uf9mv 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    PSA: If the Rebel runs too wide, I suggest you try shopping for the Woman's version in "B" width. Usually there's a 1.5 size difference between Men's & Women's sizes, but it differs by mfgr... sometimes there's only a 1 size diff. I dunno how NB does it. Nike, Brooks, & Adidas follow a 1.5 sz diff. So if you wear a Men's sz. 9, then try on a Woman's sz 10.5 B in the Rebel and it 'should' fit like a normal men's 9 sized closer to a "real" D width.

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No mens equivalent sadly in women’s size. They don’t go high enough!

  • @matthiassventoest6800
    @matthiassventoest6800 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    ...some jordan IV's for the older shoe enthusiast out there.. okay. noted. really like what you do with your channel.

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Good spot! Love me the old Jordan’s. The 4/5 was always my fav growing up

  • @stuartjm7872
    @stuartjm7872 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    the hoka / new york dolls link is genius. More running shoe / proto-punk rock links if you please!

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad you enjoyed this one!

  • @tonybowen455
    @tonybowen455 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    3:00 The best upper imo. I must need a wide in other shoes. This is my fav shoe ever right now. I do think it's kind of a polarizing shoe, like the novablast 1. Works so well for some, but some people will hate it.

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  หลายเดือนก่อน

      It’s really big in the upper. Why there is a wide version I have no idea

  • @MrKingamaziah
    @MrKingamaziah 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I did have to replace the insole as it was too thin

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah moves around too

  • @wordsovsean8905
    @wordsovsean8905 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I've twice tried this in store and both times I had the same impression, that the mid-sole felt like a negative drop pancake. The upper I didn't have as many issues with as you, but I didn't get to run in them. The feel I got from the shoe was similar to when I tried on the Noosa Tri14 which I do own as I was given voucher as a gift and there was little to choose from. The Noosa is fine, but quickly bottoms out and as the Rebel felt so similar I decided against it. Interestingly, the salesperson advised me that plenty of customers had given the same feedback as me regarding the Rebel V4, including after purchase. Many were not a fan of the upper either apparently.

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yep negative drop for sure!

  • @justoutlaw6423
    @justoutlaw6423 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Using grandma's knitted socks is the key here.

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      🤣

  • @kuriosites
    @kuriosites 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I was given the Mach 6 and the upper is a little narrow for my taste but OK. I find the midsole to be a little bouncy and not too squishy, which is nice. For me, it's great for 6-7 miles, whether I'm going easy or picking up the pace but I feel like not enough cushion for longer runs.

    • @levandmarthapolyakin-aaron2183
      @levandmarthapolyakin-aaron2183 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Agree with you-I like that it has a little ground feel but still feels well cushioned. It fits me perfectly with my narrowish feet, and I find the support adequate for long runs. I bought them for daily training and LR’s, and so far so good. But I’m very petite and lightweight.

  • @ozenfant_ozn
    @ozenfant_ozn 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    thx for the bussines-like review! after aaaall the hype surrounding v4 since last fall i was really thinking i was missing out. but NB always felt too squishy and too wide for me for faster runs. think i'll pass this one.

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      These are squashy and a decent midsole. Just the upper is not well designed.

  • @mswnetman
    @mswnetman หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nice review Ed.

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad you enjoyed it

  • @levandmarthapolyakin-aaron2183
    @levandmarthapolyakin-aaron2183 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    @EDDBUD I agree with literally every point you brought up. I too have a narrowish foot (but still medium) and the upper was extremely baggy on me in the forefoot. I had to cinch like crazy just to get a halfway decent lockdown, but my forefoot still swam in them. I have to disclose that I was in the market for a daily trainer suitable for long runs, and aside from the lack of a supportive upper, I found a lack of forefoot cushion as well. I have plenty of great speedy shoes, ie Takumi Sen, Hyperion Max and Endorphins Speeds. So I ended up buying the Hoka Mach 6 to my surprise. I rarely buy Hokas but the Mach 6 fit me perfectly (yes, I know some of you out there will find them too narrow), has a supportive upper in the best sense, still plenty of room in the toe box, and while it’s not super exciting it’s been very pleasurable to run in. The midsole isn’t as bouncy as the Rebel but I prefer it as a cruiser that’s still quite nimble and well cushioned at the same time. I also hate mushy midsoles. I loved the Rebel 2 but it was not a long run-worthy shoe for me either.

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I am overrun with soft shoes so the Mach 6 might be my saviour! The skyward x is awesome though so far. Review on that soon

  • @lynchb11
    @lynchb11 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I also agree to a previous comment, haven't had any issue with the upper or the lock down. Always like most of your reviews.. 99 out of 100 isn't bad :)

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The upper isn’t great at all. Bad laces, too big and poor overlay choice

    • @ChrisLoudon-xs9lj
      @ChrisLoudon-xs9lj 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@EDDBUDthink that's because you went up a half size. I'm normally an 11, went with 11 for these and the upper fits snugly but I'm wondering if it's slightly too short (which is presumably why you went up a half size)

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ChrisLoudon-xs9lj I didn’t go up a half. I always get an 11.5 in new balance.

    • @ChrisLoudon-xs9lj
      @ChrisLoudon-xs9lj 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@EDDBUD aren't you usually an 11 in other brands though? My only other NB was the 1080v10, stuck with my usual 11, thinner socks required but otherwise fit was fine so stuck with 11 for the Rebel and it's definitely shorter

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ChrisLoudon-xs9lj Check new balance sizing. A uk 11.5 is 30cm. Same as Nike, adidas etc. the uk 11 in a NB shoe is too short for me.

  • @Guttezzz
    @Guttezzz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    NB should of kept the heel flare from V3

  • @RegenTonnenEnte
    @RegenTonnenEnte 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Looks like the rigid N overlay is exactly were the metatarsal bone of the 5th toe sticks out.. really unnessessary, likely causing discomfort for some people.

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah it’s too big and could have been less thick.

  • @jefreywith1f924
    @jefreywith1f924 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I think David Johansen aka Buster Poindexter deserves some credit for the evolution of plates in running shoes. Back in the day, he would take his high heeled shoes to the shoe maker to put a metal shank in the heel so they would be stable enough for him to run around on while performing on stage. He's in his 70's now and him being a devotee and originalist of glam punk, I think he's still wearing his white cuban high heeled ankle boots. Maybe to this day, he's still going thru a "Personality Crisis" 😂

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Perfect track for this shoe!

    • @jefreywith1f924
      @jefreywith1f924 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@EDDBUD
      Like Beast, I'm more of a digitigrade than a plantigrade. So for better or worse this shoe might work for me. But I'm buying them from a website that allows you 90-days to try them out return policy because your review gives me pause for concern.

  • @erikRR
    @erikRR 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I am enjoying mine

  • @jh230377
    @jh230377 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    ❤ My Rebel Fuelcell v4 , I can run fast in these and really comfortable. Thankuchen

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Glad you like them!

  • @anjanjds8720
    @anjanjds8720 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Share your thought about rebel4 compared with puma liberate nitro1... More lighter/fast/cushioned/groundfeel🤷‍♂️

  • @rgweaver
    @rgweaver หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I honestly don't understand the purpose of the Rebel. To be fair I've only had the v2, but my experience with that was very similar to your v4 review: Fit is kind of loose, very squishy midsole (in v2 soft + lower stack was a weird combo, but the stack has increased), and there seem to be better choices for any given purpose. One example: For me, the Saucony Endorphin Speed (again I'm still on v2 ha) is superior at every pace or distance I might want to run.

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  หลายเดือนก่อน

      It’s very squashy and undefined. Find it absorbs impact but isn’t that much of a return

  • @bogdanghita9978
    @bogdanghita9978 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I see the Hoka Skyward X in the background, so review incoming, I hope!

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It’s better than this one. 👍🏼🤣

  • @timtamothy51
    @timtamothy51 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Interesting how much advice you have about the upper. My feet are totally opposite of yours though - pretty wide and high volume.

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You may be fine. The wide version though not needed

  • @tono1665
    @tono1665 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Ordered mine from the same place as I like the colourway more than the mango and it took a while due to last week’s Easter hols.

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hope they are working out for you

    • @tono1665
      @tono1665 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@EDDBUD the fit feels fine to me in my baby size 8.5 uk feet😂. I have normal width feet(if there’s such a thing) so I don’t have any issues with cinching. Basically I have a perfect foot😂😂

  • @joebebendorf262
    @joebebendorf262 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Hey Ed; use case of a 25km long run at about 4:20 per k; the Rebel or the Endorphin Speed 4?

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Speed 4 no comparison there

  • @DrMcCallen
    @DrMcCallen 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    How would this shoe compare with the FuelCell SuperComp Trainer v2? Or the Elite V4? Excellent videos, Mr. EDDBUD.

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not tried the trainer v2. The upper on the v1 wasn’t good this it put me off. Just don’t seem to work for my feet

  • @kalmanfilter1
    @kalmanfilter1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    There's a bit of the old dunlop KT-26 aesthetic going on there. 😂
    (Aussie $12 kmart sneaker from years gone by)

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      🤣👍🏼

    • @insomniaforever6444
      @insomniaforever6444 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Holy Moly, I grew up loving the KT-26 and was only yesterday looking on ebay at old pairs for nostalgia sake. Only looking not buying. Haa!

  • @fatmel_8214
    @fatmel_8214 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Good review. I am actually wondering if this shoe is the same use/level as the Hoka Rincon 3 is. Lower stack, light and nimble. I have them both and find the the Rincon maybe even 'better'. Cheers!

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Rincon was always lacking in the longevity. This I feel might be a bit better for that

    • @ChrisLoudon-xs9lj
      @ChrisLoudon-xs9lj 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      My first impression of the Rebel was the same - similar in feel to the Rincon but with less bounce. Quite disappointing, I don't think I've ever felt like I've bottomed out a shoe before but I do with the Rebel.
      I had 880km on my Rincon 2s and currently 890km on my Rincon 3s with no longevity issues....

    • @numbers7905
      @numbers7905 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Agree with the Rincon comparison and I also bottomed out the Rebel V4 occasionally but this never happened in the Rincon. Liked the Rincon better than this shoe when it was fresh. The arch of the Rebel V4 is also super high, which would be more of a problem for a lot if people if the foam wasn't so soft.

  • @maikelzuijderhoudt4198
    @maikelzuijderhoudt4198 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Would love to see a review on the new sc elite. Since i am not as fast as i jused to be doubting i wil benefit a alphafly or adios pro, or ether a metaspeed sky.

  • @markherbert8542
    @markherbert8542 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Got the Rebel v2 like it but wished it had a little bit more midsole. Then the v4 arrived to a lot of fanfare for other shoetubers like the runtesters, believe in the run and kofozi. I did the NB Warsaw half marathon last month and saw the rebel v4 at the expo. They had a 30% off voucher making them £90. I didn't bite as I have a lot of shoes in my rotation or waiting to go into my rotation when other retire. Like the honest review Ed. Runtesters compare the Rebel v4 as a lower stack superblast or pacier novablast v4. I guess that's not what you'd compare it to? But that's probably for another video 😉

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Nothing like the Superblast at all. The combo of foams makes that one special. This is a rubbery quite soft shoe and not all that different to the v2.

  • @TW-rd5ub
    @TW-rd5ub 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    If there’s one thing I really don’t want to do with a daily trainer, it’s having to fuss with it to get a good lockdown - just need to be able to throw em on and go :D

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes that’s my ethos here. Too much faffing for a daily shoe. Lace up and go is the mission objective for that category

  • @DonalG45
    @DonalG45 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Thanks for the review Edd! On point as always. I was glad to hear your thoughts lined up closely with my own impression of the shoes after 100km. I had the v2 a number of years ago and actually quite liked them but these feel too wide to me and I'm having similar issues with the upper (heel locking has helped a great deal). The ride is nice and light but not incredible (as some other reviews would suggest). They're by no means terrible and I'll continue to wear them for daily use/maybe some short workouts but certainly won't be picking up a second pair.

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The rebel 2 was a soft but nimble model. The my have expanded the width too much here for it to be an out and out pace shoe

  • @brokenfreddy1262
    @brokenfreddy1262 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Put the insole from the v880 into the rebel 4 and completely changes the shoe..that also makes the upper fit much better..

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Will look to do something similar 👍🏼

  • @TimGrose
    @TimGrose 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Yeah the ultimate shoe for those with clown wide feet. Goodness knows who the actual wide version is for. That said having pulled in the tongues like I was in a tug of war contest, I did at least achieve an OK lockdown and then the heel or the insole wasn't going anywhere. That said I did think the very wide base took some getting used to and I couldn't help wonder why a shoe that does not feel unstable at all to me needs to be seemingly built like one that is - like say the Invincible. They are very light for a trainer but I say trimmed off 1cm off each edge I might well have something lighter than a Vaporfly that would still fit fine.

    • @dhgpan
      @dhgpan 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      My volumus feet will definitely feel better in there!

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah could have been superb if they trimmed off the excess width and reduced the upper volume

  • @sunnlands
    @sunnlands 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The upper is just fine for people with slightly wider feet.
    The upper deserves praise for being really light weight.

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      But in this case why the additional wide fitting version?!

    • @NPC123UH
      @NPC123UH 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      previous version fit better in every way

  • @RainerSchmitt-pv4df
    @RainerSchmitt-pv4df 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Fighting the 🤖! 😅

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      😁

  • @gtromble
    @gtromble 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I've heard you can get a narrower fit from the women's sizing - only works up to US men's 10.5 though, so no help for Edd.

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah I could open it up like a sandal perhaps?!

  • @user-hi9yx4hw2h
    @user-hi9yx4hw2h 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It’s a shame about the upper on the v4 because the v3 rocks.

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah it’s just very large!

  • @irritablearchitect
    @irritablearchitect 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I'd never get these to work, what with my narrow-ish and low volume feet. Frankly, most of the NB lineup has been this way for a while now. A shame, as they've had some otherwise good stuff going.

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah too much material. Imagine the size of the wide version!

    • @irritablearchitect
      @irritablearchitect 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@EDDBUD Both feet would be able to fit into one shoe.

  • @aalfraarauscher
    @aalfraarauscher 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    We need the Mach 6 next!

    • @markrobinson7975
      @markrobinson7975 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I shall save you time... I think they're dreadful and I can't send em back! They're by no means bad but they don't feel anywhere as responsive or up tempo as my old Mach 5's.

    • @levandmarthapolyakin-aaron2183
      @levandmarthapolyakin-aaron2183 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Alternative opinion: I find them more responsive than the Mach 5. Try them for yourself and decide. They’re very different, however, from the Rebel 4. For me, the Mach 6 use case is general trainer including long runs, but not for speed work. I have other speedy shoes better for that. The Rebel 4 is not ideal for long runs. While versatile, it doesn’t have as much cushion in the forefoot.

    • @christopheredale9135
      @christopheredale9135 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Have to say it's rare I disagree with Edd but these are the best non plated shoes on the market. Fine for 1km or a half marathon. Runtesters and others have praised these shoes very highly. Superb weight for a daily run shoe. I get a great lockdown. Oh well! Just saying! I think this should be another Alphafly 3 style re appraisal Edd!!!

  • @jameswestmoreland9717
    @jameswestmoreland9717 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Interesting the de-evolution of the NB Rebel. I still have a pair of v1: quite different! Not sure NB ever knew what this shoe was for. But NB makes what? 50 different running shoe models. NY Dolls! Prime X review appropriate

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  หลายเดือนก่อน

      👍🏼 The rebel is one weird shoe. Not sure I know what it’s for and I’ve tried 3 different versions.

    • @lizzier6651
      @lizzier6651 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Rebel V1 was a fantastic session shoe, I'd love to get my hands on a fresh pair!

  • @jimoconnor8597
    @jimoconnor8597 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    NB brand shoes just have not worked for me. I liked the Rebel 2 OK. The race models have fallen flat for me so far. Hoping to actually try the SC Pacer 2 out later in the year for Sydney.

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The elite v2 was too squash. This is very soft but the upper is one of the poorer designs I’ve tried

  • @willmarklew9612
    @willmarklew9612 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Hey Edd, I have very wide feet! Would you say the actual foot bed is wide, or l just the upper which has a higher volume? Cheers!

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah the bed is wide also. They have gone full on limo style

  • @sunnymoo
    @sunnymoo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thanks for a review, Edd. 🙏
    IMO, may be it's very wide shoes as the signature of NB but it fits perfectly my Asian feet that some other shoes brands can not fit my feet even it is called a wide(2E) shoes size. 😅🇹🇭🏳‍⚧
    PS, 1 of my fav shoes is NB1080.

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad it’s working for you

  • @ianstyring9602
    @ianstyring9602 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I'll stick with the V3....

  • @savethisforlater
    @savethisforlater 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Hail the algorithm

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Much appreciated

  • @hankschrader2353
    @hankschrader2353 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thanks! Is this the same size as the v2 for you?

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yea roughly the same length. Way wider though.

  • @Formerly-known-as-Steve
    @Formerly-known-as-Steve 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    🎉

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Gold!

    • @Formerly-known-as-Steve
      @Formerly-known-as-Steve 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@EDDBUD just over cooked Parkrun first half mile at six minute pace …

  • @karlbratby4349
    @karlbratby4349 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Tried it, treadmill in store and was just to soft, flat. Put a Boston 12 on other foot and that was so much better.

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Better fit and more responsive.

  • @aleghise9841
    @aleghise9841 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Top

  • @RunMissouri
    @RunMissouri 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    1080v13 has a great upper if anyone wants a better NB mushy recovery shoe. Up half size over Rebel for whatever reason. Both super easy/recovery pokey run shoes.

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The 1080 is always a reliable option. The rebel seems to not know what it wants to be

  • @jason.rams4
    @jason.rams4 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Do you feel the fit would be better for someone with a wider foot? Especially considering you have a narrower foot for a size US 12 men? Have you ever suggested to someone, or tried yourself, using a women's size so that the fit would be a size B?

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Wide feet only!

  • @williamrendell17
    @williamrendell17 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    How did you find the size ed compared to say nike or asics? Did you go for same size or size up?

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  หลายเดือนก่อน

      I went for an 11.5 uk. The Nb always are a little snug in a 11. I wish they did an 11.25. 🤣

  • @langodango200
    @langodango200 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Didn’t fancy Brighton marathon after pot hole gate last year then?

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Was aiming to enter but rearranged my race calendar instead. Glad i did now. PB in both 10k and half recently.

    • @langodango200
      @langodango200 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yep excellent. Just nipped ahead of my pb’s actually. Keep up the class presenting!

  • @undeadly1103
    @undeadly1103 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    those dents on the outer part of the toe box look awful. i have enough problems without all that going on. thanks! what is that red and white hoka back there? btw those Jordans 😍

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The skyward x from Hoka just behind. The recent jordan 4 reimagined too. Quite soft compared to my 2020 fire reds

  • @albert341
    @albert341 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Good review, won’t be buying! They certainly look lovely though
    On a separate note: I recently asked you if there was a good alternative to the now discontinued Nike Tempo Next %. I think I just found it, they are called ASICS Superblast. I know they have no plate but first try today when absolutely knackered, and they’re phenomenal
    Also you are so correct about DHL, they say they tried to deliver them you have to go and pick them up from a random corner shop 7 miles away 😂

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The Superblast is a top shoe. Love my pair!

  • @sledge144
    @sledge144 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Maybe he should raffle them away. I've got a feeling he won't run in them any more 😂

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It’s just a weird shape. Maybe the last is wide or something?

  • @cheekster777
    @cheekster777 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Hi

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      SILVER

  • @RoORou
    @RoORou 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I bought it online a few weeks ago and tried it on once in the house and sent it straight back and went Nimbus 26 instead. I’m glad I did! Not a fan of this shoe at all!

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah the upper is weird in its design.

  • @paulmulks
    @paulmulks 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I've personally never got on with NB shoes 😖

  • @jackkasperski2912
    @jackkasperski2912 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Too wide, too huge. I hope NB doesn't ruin the upcoming NB Pacer in a similar fashion. Please continue to be critical, Emily Sisson!

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The tongue length is a bit short too this time out

  • @mrdsbaker
    @mrdsbaker 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I found them to small had to do a full size up from my normal uk8. Too short big toe was touching front

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Full size?! Blimey

    • @mrdsbaker
      @mrdsbaker 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@EDDBUD yeh 🤷‍♂️

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mrdsbaker They would be gargantuan in a full size up for me!

  • @Eirikkinserdal
    @Eirikkinserdal 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Maybe it's one of those shoes that doesn't have consistent productuction in the bigger sizes. Mine in EU44 is fine..

    • @theghostofpcs2391
      @theghostofpcs2391 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I have been wondering about New Balance sizing for a while now. I hear people having to always size up in something like the 1080, but for Fresh Foam x, I have to go down half a size (I have the 1080 v 12 and the More v4. Both the regular and permafrost versions). Fuel Cell will fit me true to size (RC Elite v2, SC Elite v3, SC Trainer v1 and v2). I wear a women's 40 or 40.5 EU.

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Always been a 11.5 and the length is fine. Width is not

  • @karls8989
    @karls8989 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    For me this shoe is super fast as a forefoot runner. It’s so light and pretty much the shoe of the year

    • @EDDBUD
      @EDDBUD  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Can’t say the upper is shoe of the year category so far

    • @karls8989
      @karls8989 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@EDDBUD i have ZERO issue with this upper and i go true to size in my US Mens 9