I can't imagine the horrific moment when an air traffic controller realizes that one plane, let alone two. are no longer on the screen or answering a call.
The situation is so horrifying all around, because he also knew that they would investigate him as well. So glad he was able to continue his career, and be able to help prevent it from happening again
Same! I am getting ready to fly home and think about the fact if 💩 goes sideways, I'll just wrap my arms around my kids, tell them how much I love them so that I am the last thing they feel and hear. If I fly alone, I am a nervous wreck, but when my kids are with me, I can pretend to be cool. The funny thing is that we fly ALL the time.
@harryshuman9637 probably more than that now, lol. I certainly haven't gotten through all episodes, but I've managed to get a number more outside of TH-cam as I do enjoy watching them. I also enjoy the compilations which aren't full episodes as well. But I don't think we're getting any new seasons soon without paying for them. And I don't see anything new on TH-cam anytime soon, just new mixes of already posted stuff.
@@weerskroodTells the stories of the accidents and deaths and shows how far we have improved since then, its basically showing us each accident that writes rules in the rule book written by blood that has given us the safety of modern aviation
Makes you think about how close eternity is, better call on the name of Jesus in honest prayer perhaps you'll find out what the real church is and the real gospel.
@@actsismmljcorrectlyobeyed6190 What rubbish. Feel grief at the horrendous loss of so many, and the inconsolable devastation felt by the families and friends of so many who died in these (& other) crashes. Jesus - if he even existed - has nothing to do with it and thinking of or praying to him is completely unnecessary as he has no affect on the lost or their connections. Don't try to give hope where none exists. It's cruel and a waste of breath.
Poor Mr. Datta. This incident was absolutely devastating to him. I have seen other accounts of a controller being taken out of the ATC facility. absolutely comatose with grief.
😁. Yeah, I’m convinced the plane is going to crash every time I fly anyway, so I’m not sure if it would be any worse watching these at the airport. The people sitting around you probably think you’re nuts though…😄
@@RyariosI mean on the off chance your craft does have to make an emergency landing, you’ll at least have learned how to get into the brace position, to listen to the flight attendants, to not take bags etc when escaping, so whilst it may be morbid, you’re learning something that can be used on the 0.000001% something happens
The people in charge of the airport should be ashamed of themselves, 2 years...YEARS before the new radar was put in place when they just had it in storage? Absolutely horrible. I hope they live everyday knowing that because they didn't try to implement it as soon as they got it, work it into their daily logistics, so many people needlessly died.
They also had 3 near misses following this crash as mentioned in the episode towards the end. The whole system was in a mess. No secondary radar, poor communication skills from both sides (Indian accent is difficult to understand), only having ONE corridor for takeoff and landing. What an absolute madness!
@@uponsunnah6986 Lmao that's your skill issue that u don't understand indian accent but pilot's do that's why there not been any crashes involving Atc error
@@uponsunnah6986 HEY, INSTALLING THE NEW SYSTEM IS NOT THE SAME AS BUYING A PERSONAL DESKTOP COMPUTER!!! IS NOT A FREAKING PLUG-N-PLAY!!! The airport would need to shut down for a month or two to install & check that it's function!!! Considering this is India, demand of flight here is HIGHER & WORST then taking a flight in La Guardia so shutting down means OVERLOADING OTHER INDIAN AIRPORT WHICH ARE ALREADY IN OVERCAPACITY
@@yokikokudou relax and take accountability. Why so defensive lol. It can be easily installed and operated while having a contingency plan alternatively. But then this is India! Lol
They've ordered a Secondary radar worth $500 million in today's money only to sit in one of the Indira Gandhi Airport's hanger for more than two years, WOW what a disregard for lives, money and technology, I mean isn't it the human nature that when you buy a new anything you can't wait to use it? like a Toy, Phone, Car etc? I don't know what is wrong with government people. Preposterous.
It happens all the time in all sorts of industries. They buy the equipment and then realize they don’t have the funds to install it (maybe the bids were all much higher than anticipated or they discovered something about the installation that required it to go back to engineering.), or other things come up that are pushed to a higher priority. It’s sad, but you would probably be shocked at how often it happens. In fact, if I’m not mistaken, this isn’t the only accident where the controlling airport had the updated radar system sitting in crates at the airport for years.
@@Ryariosit sadly isn’t, like you’d think folk would learn “huh, maybe we should install this better system we have just sitting here in crates”, but no, you end up with ANOTHER incident happening. It’s just mind boggling
@@ZombieSazza This equipment often requires the construction of towers and other changes to the airport. It does not simply sit on the desk. Reusing existing towers may be possible, but the changeover of the rotating scanners could take months. It is easy not to look at the complete picture when changing systems at an operational airport. The delivery date of the equipment will normally be at least a year before commissioning.
@@ZombieSazza HEY, INSTALLING THE NEW SYSTEM IS NOT THE SAME AS BUYING A PERSONAL DESKTOP COMPUTER!!! IT'S NOT A FREAKING PLUG-N-PLAY SYSTEM!!! The airport would need to shut down for a month or two to install & check that it's function!!! Considering this is India, demand of flight here is HIGHER & WORST then taking a flight in La Guardia so shutting down means OVERLOADING OTHER INDIAN AIRPORT WHICH ARE ALREADY IN OVERCAPACITY
It’s sad. These accidents are filled with ‘if onlys’. If only the com officer paid closer attention to their altitude, if only the pilots had paid more attention to radio communications, if only they had descended slower, if only either plane was traveling a little slower or faster, if only either plane had taken off a minute later, if only the airport had secondary radar, if only TCAS had been implemented in these aircraft, and a thousand more. Any of the ‘if onlys’ could have broken the chain of events that led to so much death and destruction and yet, nothing did. That’s the thing about accidents, there is almost always a chain of events leading up to it. Break one of those links and it doesn’t happen. Yet they happen after all that.
Blame it on whatever you want to; do YOU like flying ONLY 1000 feet above another plane traffic controllers KNOW is flying ONLY 1000 FEET BELOW? Stating that this "could have been avoided, had new technology been installed"(and wasn't) to "detect other" planes in your vicinity doesn't seem to be a good "EXCUSE" for this to have happened! TOO MANY planes allowed to travel even a 4000 Foot distance would have caused MAYDAY to loose at least fifty percent of their Mayday disasters! OH, you're landing, fly high, outgoing planes, stay low; how ridiculous. THIS is why we logic states an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of CURE. THE QUESTION is not how many MORE planes can technology build; It's HOW MANY FEWER planes can airports "consider cutting from their $genda so that people who NEED to travel, CAN!? This may be the worst "Mid-Air Collision" but after safely flying 747's for over twenty years, the French want to get FANCY, so they poorly design a plane that charged $9K per passenger FELL out of the sky and killed 500 passengers. (I'm sure they calculated their monetary loss as being quite high also.) Isn't often an ocean cruiser entails running into another cruiser btw. and we've decided we'd rather be one of the 34 survivors out of their 4000 passengers who made it to the island after the "slow sinking" of the Costa Concordia! "Flying in the Morning" By FredGold&LyndaFaye
I just cannot understand how and why the secondary radar system was at the airport but took 2 YEARS BEFORE IT WAS INSTALLED!!!! By the way, this was the worst mid-air collision at that time according to a couple of other Mayday videos.
As soon as I saw those radar screens I thought it was very odd that they did not show anything but a blip. No info on what plane it is and nothing about altitude . So even without every flying a plane or being in radar room I knew that was a messed up system
That technology didn't used to be possible. It was only in WWII that they developed the ability to tell the difference between friend and foe, and that had to be done manually by the pilots. The planes and the ground have to have the proper equiptment. In the 1960s-2000s, the technology surrounding planes was advancing so quickly, that perhaps that particular airport didn't feel it was worth it to purchase a radar that would soon be outdated. You have to remember that until the 1960s they didn't even used to have radar, or flight plans. The pilots could fly however they liked. The only communications were in takeoff and landing. Then they only had flight plans and the paper strips. What was used at the time of the crash in this airport was primary radar. I do believe some places still use it to this day. But we have better technology so that the planes know where eachother are, so there is less risk.
It’s still safer than a semi-truck and a car containing your loved ones passing opposite ways on a two-lane highway at 60 mph with only six feet between the two vehicles. So many drivers become distracted and veer head on into the oncoming vehicle on a daily basis around the world. I think that’s crazy!
@@jonkaminsky8382 not safer. If you sideswipe a car or truck you can still survive and even save your car. You clip another plane in the air even if it just clips your wing, your plane is going down and everyone will die.
Such a tragedy that almost reapated three more times before the new system was p..implemented . It's sad though how it takes a devastating tragedy before what needs to be done is done or to have changes. 😢 49:43
The main "tragedy" is cramming so many planes into the sky simultaneously, and saving money for billionaires by limiting the numbers of landing spaces! Had good logic and planning of the INVENTORS been encouraged, Air Collision Avoidance systemS wouldn't even be necessary! Blame it on whatever you want to; do YOU like flying ONLY 1000 feet above another plane traffic controllers KNOW is flying ONLY 1000 FEET BELOW? Stating that this "could have been avoided, had new technology been installed"(and wasn't) to "detect other" planes in your vicinity doesn't seem to be a good "EXCUSE" for this to have happened! TOO MANY planes allowed to travel even a 4000 Foot distance would have caused MAYDAY to loose at least fifty percent of their Mayday disasters! OH, you're landing, fly high, outgoing planes, stay low; how ridiculous. THIS is why we logic states an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of CURE. THE QUESTION is not how many MORE planes can technology build; It's HOW MANY FEWER planes can airports "consider cutting from their $genda so that people who NEED to travel, CAN!? This may be the worst "Mid-Air Collision" but after safely flying 747's for over twenty years, the French want to get FANCY, so they poorly design a plane that charged $9K per passenger FELL out of the sky and killed 500 passengers. (I'm sure they calculated their monetary loss as being quite high also.) Isn't often an ocean cruiser entails running into another cruiser btw. and we've decided we'd rather be one of the 34 survivors out of their 4000 passengers who made it to the island after the "slow sinking" of the Costa Concordia! "Flying in the Morning" By FredGold&LyndaFaye
I've watched so many of these that a crash seems to be the controllers fault entirely. So this one was different that the controller had all his ducks in a row but the pilots messed up.
Aircraft accidents are overwhelmingly human errors and often more than one. If it’s not the pilot, it’s the controller, maintenance guy, airline exec, aircraft engineer, etc. it’s almost never just some item failed out of the blue.
Controllers AND pilots are depending on their instruments most of the time; ASSUMING can be a bad habit in all businesses. Living in a country that claims it's a government By the people and FOR the people, does it ever occur to you that PEOPLE SHOULD have a right to NOT BE flown over ? Duh....AIR "SPACE" is now "everyone's' space? The main "tragedy" is cramming so many planes into the sky simultaneously, and saving money for billionaires by limiting the numbers of landing spaces! Had good logic and planning of the INVENTORS been encouraged, Air Collision Avoidance systemS wouldn't even be necessary! Blame it on whatever you want to; do YOU like flying ONLY 1000 feet above another plane traffic controllers KNOW is flying ONLY 1000 FEET BELOW? Stating that this "could have been avoided, had new technology been installed"(and wasn't) to "detect other" planes in your vicinity doesn't seem to be a good "EXCUSE" for this to have happened! TOO MANY planes allowed to travel even a 4000 Foot distance would have caused MAYDAY to loose at least fifty percent of their Mayday disasters! OH, you're landing, fly high, outgoing planes, stay low; how ridiculous. THIS is why we logic states an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of CURE. THE QUESTION is not how many MORE planes can technology build; It's HOW MANY FEWER planes can airports "consider cutting from their $genda so that people who NEED to travel, CAN!? This may be the worst "Mid-Air Collision" but after safely flying 747's for over twenty years, the French want to get FANCY, so they poorly design a plane that charged $9K per passenger FELL out of the sky and killed 500 passengers. (I'm sure they calculated their monetary loss as being quite high also.) Isn't often an ocean cruiser entails running into another cruiser btw. and we've decided we'd rather be one of the 34 survivors out of their 4000 passengers who made it to the island after the "slow sinking" of the Costa Concordia! "Flying in the Morning" By FredGold&LyndaFaye
I remember this accident when I was in Bangalore. This was one of the worst mid-air collisions. After this accident, the "Air Collision Avoidance System" introduced in the flights.
Had good logic and planning of the INVENTORS been encouraged, Air Collision Avoidance systemS wouldn't even be necessary! Blame it on whatever you want to; do YOU like flying ONLY 1000 feet above another plane traffic controllers KNOW is flying ONLY 1000 FEET BELOW? Stating that this "could have been avoided, had new technology been installed"(and wasn't) to "detect other" planes in your vicinity doesn't seem to be a good "EXCUSE" for this to have happened! TOO MANY planes allowed to travel even a 4000 Foot distance would have caused MAYDAY to loose at least fifty percent of their Mayday disasters! OH, you're landing, fly high, outgoing planes, stay low; how ridiculous. THIS is why we logic states an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of CURE. THE QUESTION is not how many MORE planes can technology build; It's HOW MANY FEWER planes can airports "consider cutting from their $genda so that people who NEED to travel, CAN!? This may be the worst "Mid-Air Collision" but after safely flying 747's for over twenty years, the French want to get FANCY, so they poorly design a plane that charged $9K per passenger FELL out of the sky and killed 500 passengers. (I'm sure they calculated their monetary loss as being quite high also.) Isn't often an ocean cruiser entails running into another cruiser btw. and we've decided we'd rather be one of the 34 survivors out of their 4000 passengers who made it to the island after the "slow sinking" of the Costa Concordia! "Flying in the Morning" By FredGold&LyndaFaye
The sad thing is that if the radio operation on the Kazakh flight had not looked at the altimeter again, or hadn’t warned the crew to stay at FL150, their plane WOULD have flown under the Saudi 747 and no one would have been the wiser. 😢
@@InvincibleAkuma Have you ever heard of an inventor named Benjamine Franklin? The main "tragedy" is cramming so many planes into the sky simultaneously, and saving money for billionaires by limiting the numbers of landing spaces! Had good logic and planning of the INVENTORS been encouraged, Air Collision Avoidance systemS wouldn't even be necessary! Blame it on whatever you want to; do YOU like flying ONLY 1000 feet above another plane traffic controllers KNOW is flying ONLY 1000 FEET BELOW? Stating that this "could have been avoided, had new technology been installed"(and wasn't) to "detect other" planes in your vicinity doesn't seem to be a good "EXCUSE" for this to have happened! TOO MANY planes allowed to travel even a 4000 Foot distance would have caused MAYDAY to loose at least fifty percent of their Mayday disasters! OH, you're landing, fly high, outgoing planes, stay low; how ridiculous. THIS is why we logic states an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of CURE. THE QUESTION is not how many MORE planes can technology build; It's HOW MANY FEWER planes can airports "consider cutting from their $genda so that people who NEED to travel, CAN!? This may be the worst "Mid-Air Collision" but after safely flying 747's for over twenty years, the French want to get FANCY, so they poorly design a plane that charged $9K per passenger FELL out of the sky and killed 500 passengers. (I'm sure they calculated their monetary loss as being quite high also.) Isn't often an ocean cruiser entails running into another cruiser btw. and we've decided we'd rather be one of the 34 survivors out of their 4000 passengers who made it to the island after the "slow sinking" of the Costa Concordia! "Flying in the Morning" By FredGold&LyndaFaye
That’s why it’s called Tombstone Mentality - change only happens AFTER people die, even tho they know it would be safer to make these changes, they just decide money is more important than folk living. It’s honestly a disgusting way of treating other peoples lives when you’re responsible for them
When are you going to do a show on crash in Evansville, IN, in late 90's? A military plane crashed into hotel, killing a dozen of my friends. It was extreme disaster for the whole city of Evansville, a city of 160,000 people.
Is this the Drury Inn one? Mayday (Air Crash Investigations) show has never covered this, maybe you could 📧 them with this as a suggestion? They’re pretty active online 🐦 and post regularly with “on this day in year XYZ” about historic incidents around the world, but the show has only covered a certain amount of the sheer amount that’s happened globally, where 90% of the crashes they cover are civilian and not military. Might be worth your time contacting them through social media or finding an 📧 ! Sorry for emojis, gotta love YT censorship (no idea what word is upsetting the 🤖)
Is this the Drury Inn one? Mayday show has never covered this, maybe you could 📧 them with this as a suggestion? They’re pretty active 🐦 and post regularly with “on this day in year XYZ” about historic incidents around the world, but the show has only covered a certain amount of the sheer amount that’s happened globally, where 90% of what they cover are civilian and not military. Might be worth your time contacting them through socials or finding an 📧 !
Yes, over a dozen people burned to death, just south of airport besides the 9 crew. It was typical military negligence, as they were practicing touch & go landings with a huge heavy plane not designed to do be treated like that, especially by cadets with very little training.
Living in a country that claims it's a government By the people and FOR the people, does it ever occur to you that PEOPLE SHOULD have a right to NOT BE flown over ? Duh....AIR "SPACE" is now "everyone's' space? The main "tragedy" is cramming so many planes into the sky simultaneously, and saving money for billionaires by limiting the numbers of landing spaces! Had good logic and planning of the INVENTORS been encouraged, Air Collision Avoidance systemS wouldn't even be necessary! Blame it on whatever you want to; do YOU like flying ONLY 1000 feet above another plane traffic controllers KNOW is flying ONLY 1000 FEET BELOW? Stating that this "could have been avoided, had new technology been installed"(and wasn't) to "detect other" planes in your vicinity doesn't seem to be a good "EXCUSE" for this to have happened! TOO MANY planes allowed to travel even a 4000 Foot distance would have caused MAYDAY to loose at least fifty percent of their Mayday disasters! OH, you're landing, fly high, outgoing planes, stay low; how ridiculous. THIS is why we logic states an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of CURE. THE QUESTION is not how many MORE planes can technology build; It's HOW MANY FEWER planes can airports "consider cutting from their $genda so that people who NEED to travel, CAN!? This may be the worst "Mid-Air Collision" but after safely flying 747's for over twenty years, the French want to get FANCY, so they poorly design a plane that charged $9K per passenger FELL out of the sky and killed 500 passengers. (I'm sure they calculated their monetary loss as being quite high also.) Isn't often an ocean cruiser entails running into another cruiser btw. and we've decided we'd rather be one of the 34 survivors out of their 4000 passengers who made it to the island after the "slow sinking" of the Costa Concordia! "Flying in the Morning" By FredGold&LyndaFaye
I think updating us and elaborating more is kind of the ppl involved with this project… someday they will be covering little wrecks. I would like to know more about crashed helicopters.
By reading these stories of mid-air collisions, and considering when it happens, it's reported, I must conclude there also are numerous misses by a meter or so. For every collision, there are several almost-collisions. Those aren't as destructive, of course, but can you imagine what the passengers must have gone through?
That radar for ATC that they were using needs to report ALL vital information about all aircraft flying in the vicinity of all major cities, including position, altitude, and speed. All ATC towers across the world need that. In addition to onboard aircraft systems, like TCAS, to prevent mid-air collisions as well as sterile and clear communications amongst all air crews in the cockpits of all aircraft that are airborne. Everything for a smooth, safe, and secure airspace across the world. RIP to all who died on this day aboard both aircraft.
I am waiting for the time when all pilot have a 3d image of their local airspace, so they can see what is where around them. It is only a matter of time.
So either the NTSB or the comparable British agency does the investigation. I find that rather strange,given that New Delhi is not even close to Europe. So to avoid bias or to control everything better? Good question.
But you need to realize planes are getting safer and technologies are becoming more advanced. Air travel will keep getting safer if companies won’t cut corners in the sake of budgeting and lining their own pockets
I was 5 when I witnessed a small plane crash and explode in eastern PA summer of1959. My dad was parked and running for the plane when it came down in a cornfield, and pulled the pilot to safety just before it exploded into a huge ball of flames. I never fly. And we have all seen the 9/11 videos...
And then, there’s the TSA nightmare - which is a lot worse if you have certain disabilities, especially if the consequences of those disabilities look like extreme social phobia. Being scared of flying is one thing, but fear of the TSA ordeal is *WORSE.*
Ha, paragraph three----Go slow you'll get there-try Rick Steves OCEAN TOURS. I'd gladly forfeit seven days to reach my destination with two different countries' coast guards and investigators standing by! Living in a country that claims it's a government By the people and FOR the people, does it ever occur to you that PEOPLE SHOULD have a right to NOT BE flown over ? Duh....AIR "SPACE" is now "everyone's' space? The main "tragedy" is cramming so many planes into the sky simultaneously, and saving money for billionaires by limiting the numbers of landing spaces! Had good logic and planning of the INVENTORS been encouraged, Air Collision Avoidance systemS wouldn't even be necessary! Blame it on whatever you want to; do YOU like flying ONLY 1000 feet above another plane traffic controllers KNOW is flying ONLY 1000 FEET BELOW? Stating that this "could have been avoided, had new technology been installed"(and wasn't) to "detect other" planes in your vicinity doesn't seem to be a good "EXCUSE" for this to have happened! TOO MANY planes allowed to travel even a 4000 Foot distance would have caused MAYDAY to loose at least fifty percent of their Mayday disasters! OH, you're landing, fly high, outgoing planes, stay low; how ridiculous. THIS is why we logic states an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of CURE. THE QUESTION is not how many MORE planes can technology build; It's HOW MANY FEWER planes can airports "consider cutting from their $genda so that people who NEED to travel, CAN!? This may be the worst "Mid-Air Collision" but after safely flying 747's for over twenty years, the French want to get FANCY, so they poorly design a plane that charged $9K per passenger FELL out of the sky and killed 500 passengers. (I'm sure they calculated their monetary loss as being quite high also.) Isn't often an ocean cruiser entails running into another cruiser btw. and we've decided we'd rather be one of the 34 survivors out of their 4000 passengers who made it to the island after the "slow sinking" of the Costa Concordia! "Flying in the Morning" By FredGold&LyndaFaye
Planes have to fly on certain flight paths in and out of the airspace surrounding airports. This allows them to line up with waypoints to report their position accurately, and to know exactly where and when they should turn to be on approach for final. It's literally a highway in the sky. Especially around airports, it is FAR too dangerous to let planes fly willy-nilly around the sky. Airways are typically about four miles wide, so it is truly just terrible luck that these two colliding jets happened to be THAT close to each other. But it is the approach controller's job to guide arriving and departing flights along the flight path until they're far enough away from the airport that turning them is okay. It's not as simple as "turning them 20 degrees," if he did that then he would be encroaching on the surrounding airspace and causing MORE problems. For airports as busy as this, landing procedures for ATC start as far as 120 miles out. They have to get every flight organized and ready to land safely. Leaving the approaching flight overhead until the departing flight has passed is entirely normal and standard, and the safest way to do it. You don't know for sure, especially with this older radar, that the approaching flight can descend fast enough to miss the traffic below, OR that the departing flight can climb fast enough, either. 1,000ft of space between each and every flight is one of the many ways that airplanes are kept separated, especially when on approach for a busy airport. There is nothing wrong with this practice, and EVERYTHING wrong with the outdated radar that the controller was using - because if he had something more advanced that actually displays each flight's altitude, he would have been able to get them under and over each other while still guaranteeing separation. Sorry that this got so long, but there was just a lot wrong with the assumptions made in your comment. (Source: I am an ATC student)
WEIRD is hearing that there's only 1000 feet between a "prescribed" take off and a LAND to begin with. RIDICULOUS. Living in a country that claims it's a government By the people and FOR the people, does it ever occur to you that PEOPLE SHOULD have a right to NOT BE flown over ? Duh....AIR "SPACE" is now "everyone's' space? The main "tragedy" is cramming so many planes into the sky simultaneously, and saving money for billionaires by limiting the numbers of landing spaces! Had good logic and planning of the INVENTORS been encouraged, Air Collision Avoidance systemS wouldn't even be necessary! Blame it on whatever you want to; do YOU like flying ONLY 1000 feet above another plane traffic controllers KNOW is flying ONLY 1000 FEET BELOW? Stating that this "could have been avoided, had new technology been installed"(and wasn't) to "detect other" planes in your vicinity doesn't seem to be a good "EXCUSE" for this to have happened! TOO MANY planes allowed to travel even a 4000 Foot distance would have caused MAYDAY to loose at least fifty percent of their Mayday disasters! OH, you're landing, fly high, outgoing planes, stay low; how ridiculous. THIS is why we logic states an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of CURE. THE QUESTION is not how many MORE planes can technology build; It's HOW MANY FEWER planes can airports "consider cutting from their $genda so that people who NEED to travel, CAN!? This may be the worst "Mid-Air Collision" but after safely flying 747's for over twenty years, the French want to get FANCY, so they poorly design a plane that charged $9K per passenger FELL out of the sky and killed 500 passengers. (I'm sure they calculated their monetary loss as being quite high also.) Isn't often an ocean cruiser entails running into another cruiser btw. and we've decided we'd rather be one of the 34 survivors out of their 4000 passengers who made it to the island after the "slow sinking" of the Costa Concordia! "Flying in the Morning" By FredGold&LyndaFaye
Man this was even worse than those planes that collided over Albuquerque. I guess the air traffic controllers daughter had recently overdosed, sad stuff.
If the Kazakhstan flight had kept descending, they might have actually avoided the collision. It seems their attempt to get back up to 15,000 put them directly in the same spot as the Saudi plane
Air traffic controller: "PHEW".... Ya, I'd never do that job. Too much liability/pressure. It does seem like things are much safer today. It's crazy to think that the system used to simply rely on the pilots telling the controller what their elevation was. Also, this idea that the communications officer was relaying altitude, but didn't bother to tell the pilot to hold at 15K just shows how easily such errors can occur, and that the pilot him or herself needs to hear those messages from air traffic control.
We've known a few; They can ONLY DO what their instruments TELL them to do. Living in a country that claims it's a government By the people and FOR the people, does it ever occur to you that PEOPLE SHOULD have a right to NOT BE flown over ? Duh....AIR "SPACE" is now "everyone's' space? The main "tragedy" is cramming so many planes into the sky simultaneously, and saving money for billionaires by limiting the numbers of landing spaces! Had good logic and planning of the INVENTORS been encouraged, Air Collision Avoidance systemS wouldn't even be necessary! Blame it on whatever you want to; do YOU like flying ONLY 1000 feet above another plane traffic controllers KNOW is flying ONLY 1000 FEET BELOW? Stating that this "could have been avoided, had new technology been installed"(and wasn't) to "detect other" planes in your vicinity doesn't seem to be a good "EXCUSE" for this to have happened! TOO MANY planes allowed to travel even a 4000 Foot distance would have caused MAYDAY to loose at least fifty percent of their Mayday disasters! OH, you're landing, fly high, outgoing planes, stay low; how ridiculous. THIS is why we logic states an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of CURE. THE QUESTION is not how many MORE planes can technology build; It's HOW MANY FEWER planes can airports "consider cutting from their $genda so that people who NEED to travel, CAN!? This may be the worst "Mid-Air Collision" but after safely flying 747's for over twenty years, the French want to get FANCY, so they poorly design a plane that charged $9K per passenger FELL out of the sky and killed 500 passengers. (I'm sure they calculated their monetary loss as being quite high also.) Isn't often an ocean cruiser entails running into another cruiser btw. and we've decided we'd rather be one of the 34 survivors out of their 4000 passengers who made it to the island after the "slow sinking" of the Costa Concordia! "Flying in the Morning" By FredGold&LyndaFaye
Statistically, these days in commercial aviation the chances of you getting in an air accident in a single flight is less than 1/100.000, it being fatal is a fraction of even that.
@@Ama-Elaini Yes, we're much more wary of the RIDE on the freeway to Ports O'Call to get our cruiseship, than the cruise too!Living in a country that claims it's a government By the people and FOR the people, does it ever occur to you that PEOPLE SHOULD have a right to NOT BE flown over ? Duh....AIR "SPACE" is now "everyone's' space? The main "tragedy" is cramming so many planes into the sky simultaneously, and saving money for billionaires by limiting the numbers of landing spaces! Had good logic and planning of the INVENTORS been encouraged, Air Collision Avoidance systemS wouldn't even be necessary! Blame it on whatever you want to; do YOU like flying ONLY 1000 feet above another plane traffic controllers KNOW is flying ONLY 1000 FEET BELOW? Stating that this "could have been avoided, had new technology been installed"(and wasn't) to "detect other" planes in your vicinity doesn't seem to be a good "EXCUSE" for this to have happened! TOO MANY planes allowed to travel even a 4000 Foot distance would have caused MAYDAY to loose at least fifty percent of their Mayday disasters! OH, you're landing, fly high, outgoing planes, stay low; how ridiculous. THIS is why we logic states an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of CURE. THE QUESTION is not how many MORE planes can technology build; It's HOW MANY FEWER planes can airports "consider cutting from their $genda so that people who NEED to travel, CAN!? This may be the worst "Mid-Air Collision" but after safely flying 747's for over twenty years, the French want to get FANCY, so they poorly design a plane that charged $9K per passenger FELL out of the sky and killed 500 passengers. (I'm sure they calculated their monetary loss as being quite high also.) Isn't often an ocean cruiser entails running into another cruiser btw. and we've decided we'd rather be one of the 34 survivors out of their 4000 passengers who made it to the island after the "slow sinking" of the Costa Concordia! "Flying in the Morning" By FredGold&LyndaFaye
Although planes have no radar to tract other aircraft, they have instead TCAS, or Traffic Collision Avoidance System. Why did it not warn the pilots of either flight of a potential conflict? Suddenly popped up in my mind.
Something as important as talking to the Tower especially during Landing and descending should be the responsibility of the pilot and the co-pilot only they're flying the plane it shouldn't go to one person and then be translated to another person that's a recipe for disaster that is just heartbreaking
MY friend dated allot of pilots she'd met at LAX-She said most of them are lucky to be sober before they fly! Living in a country that claims it's a government By the people and FOR the people, does it ever occur to you that PEOPLE SHOULD have a right to NOT BE flown over ? Duh....AIR "SPACE" is now "everyone's' space? The main "tragedy" is cramming so many planes into the sky simultaneously, and saving money for billionaires by limiting the numbers of landing spaces! Had good logic and planning of the INVENTORS been encouraged, Air Collision Avoidance systemS wouldn't even be necessary! Blame it on whatever you want to; do YOU like flying ONLY 1000 feet above another plane traffic controllers KNOW is flying ONLY 1000 FEET BELOW? Stating that this "could have been avoided, had new technology been installed"(and wasn't) to "detect other" planes in your vicinity doesn't seem to be a good "EXCUSE" for this to have happened! TOO MANY planes allowed to travel even a 4000 Foot distance would have caused MAYDAY to loose at least fifty percent of their Mayday disasters! OH, you're landing, fly high, outgoing planes, stay low; how ridiculous. THIS is why we logic states an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of CURE. THE QUESTION is not how many MORE planes can technology build; It's HOW MANY FEWER planes can airports "consider cutting from their $genda so that people who NEED to travel, CAN!? This may be the worst "Mid-Air Collision" but after safely flying 747's for over twenty years, the French want to get FANCY, so they poorly design a plane that charged $9K per passenger FELL out of the sky and killed 500 passengers. (I'm sure they calculated their monetary loss as being quite high also.) Isn't often an ocean cruiser entails running into another cruiser btw. and we've decided we'd rather be one of the 34 survivors out of their 4000 passengers who made it to the island after the "slow sinking" of the Costa Concordia! "Flying in the Morning" By FredGold&LyndaFaye
Google offers PREMIUM 14$ per mon. They got us comin and goin. Living in a country that claims it's a government By the people and FOR the people, does it ever occur to you that PEOPLE SHOULD have a right to NOT BE flown over ? Duh....AIR "SPACE" is now "everyone's' space? The main "tragedy" is cramming so many planes into the sky simultaneously, and saving money for billionaires by limiting the numbers of landing spaces! Had good logic and planning of the INVENTORS been encouraged, Air Collision Avoidance systemS wouldn't even be necessary! Blame it on whatever you want to; do YOU like flying ONLY 1000 feet above another plane traffic controllers KNOW is flying ONLY 1000 FEET BELOW? Stating that this "could have been avoided, had new technology been installed"(and wasn't) to "detect other" planes in your vicinity doesn't seem to be a good "EXCUSE" for this to have happened! TOO MANY planes allowed to travel even a 4000 Foot distance would have caused MAYDAY to loose at least fifty percent of their Mayday disasters! OH, you're landing, fly high, outgoing planes, stay low; how ridiculous. THIS is why we logic states an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of CURE. THE QUESTION is not how many MORE planes can technology build; It's HOW MANY FEWER planes can airports "consider cutting from their $genda so that people who NEED to travel, CAN!? This may be the worst "Mid-Air Collision" but after safely flying 747's for over twenty years, the French want to get FANCY, so they poorly design a plane that charged $9K per passenger FELL out of the sky and killed 500 passengers. (I'm sure they calculated their monetary loss as being quite high also.) Isn't often an ocean cruiser entails running into another cruiser btw. and we've decided we'd rather be one of the 34 survivors out of their 4000 passengers who made it to the island after the "slow sinking" of the Costa Concordia! "Flying in the Morning" By FredGold&LyndaFaye
The casting of the actors IS one of the good things accomplished by MAYDAY though. Living in a country that claims it's a government By the people and FOR the people, does it ever occur to you that PEOPLE SHOULD have a right to NOT BE flown over ? Duh....AIR "SPACE" is now "everyone's' space? (Please, NOT ON OUR ROOF!) The main "tragedy" is cramming so many planes into the sky simultaneously, and saving money for billionaires by limiting the numbers of landing spaces! Had good logic and planning of the INVENTORS been encouraged, Air Collision Avoidance systemS wouldn't even be necessary! Blame it on whatever you want to; do YOU like flying ONLY 1000 feet above another plane traffic controllers KNOW is flying ONLY 1000 FEET BELOW? Stating that this "could have been avoided, had new technology been installed"(and wasn't) to "detect other" planes in your vicinity doesn't seem to be a good "EXCUSE" for this to have happened! TOO MANY planes allowed to travel even a 4000 Foot distance would have caused MAYDAY to loose at least fifty percent of their Mayday disasters! OH, you're landing, fly high, outgoing planes, stay low; how ridiculous. THIS is why we logic states an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of CURE. THE QUESTION is not how many MORE planes can technology build; It's HOW MANY FEWER planes can airports "consider cutting from their $genda so that people who NEED to travel, CAN!? This may be the worst "Mid-Air Collision" but after safely flying 747's for over twenty years, the French want to get FANCY, so they poorly design a plane that charged $9K per passenger FELL out of the sky and killed 500 passengers. (I'm sure they calculated their monetary loss as being quite high also.) Isn't often an ocean cruiser entails running into another cruiser btw. and we've decided we'd rather be one of the 34 survivors out of their 4000 passengers who made it to the island after the "slow sinking" of the Costa Concordia! "Flying in the Morning" By FredGold&LyndaFaye
Notice how Kazakh investigators blamed the accident on turbulence? Keep this in mind when you watch other mayday. Boeing and airbus will always find ways to blame humans. There are exceptions of course but the goal is to defend their reputations. Don't forget the apparent suicides of recent Boeing whistleblowers. Also, note the suicide of JAL maintenance manager's suicide in 1985 after maintenance was blamed for 747's crash and Japan was persuaded not to pursue suing Boeing. Mayday made an episode about that crash.
The main "tragedy" is cramming so many planes into the sky simultaneously, and saving money for billionaires by limiting the numbers of landing spaces! Had good logic and planning of the INVENTORS been encouraged, Air Collision Avoidance systemS wouldn't even be necessary! Blame it on whatever you want to; do YOU like flying ONLY 1000 feet above another plane traffic controllers KNOW is flying ONLY 1000 FEET BELOW? Stating that this "could have been avoided, had new technology been installed"(and wasn't) to "detect other" planes in your vicinity doesn't seem to be a good "EXCUSE" for this to have happened! TOO MANY planes allowed to travel even a 4000 Foot distance would have caused MAYDAY to loose at least fifty percent of their Mayday disasters! OH, you're landing, fly high, outgoing planes, stay low; how ridiculous. THIS is why we logic states an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of CURE. THE QUESTION is not how many MORE planes can technology build; It's HOW MANY FEWER planes can airports "consider cutting from their $genda so that people who NEED to travel, CAN!? This may be the worst "Mid-Air Collision" but after safely flying 747's for over twenty years, the French want to get FANCY, so they poorly design a plane that charged $9K per passenger FELL out of the sky and killed 500 passengers. (I'm sure they calculated their monetary loss as being quite high also.) Isn't often an ocean cruiser entails running into another cruiser btw. and we've decided we'd rather be one of the 34 survivors out of their 4000 passengers who made it to the island after the "slow sinking" of the Costa Concordia! "Flying in the Morning" By FredGold&LyndaFaye
37:05 the flight crew of Kazakhstan airline did a bigger mistake that they reported to the ATC their altitude 15000 while they were on 16000 feet at that time ....... that's the mistake that they did and suffered from a bigger disaster
Is it just me or does it not make sense that planes apparently do not have radar to detect other aircraft the amount of problems that that would solve is almost insurmountable
Planes Should Have a System on Board That Detects Other Planes & Obstacles That are Getting Too Close to Their Plane and The AP Steers The Plane AWAY From Other Planes/Obstacles...Not Possible?...Bad Idea?
Everyone keeps complaining about the radar, taking 2 years to install. It sounds like it was a complete overhaul, plus they still had to deal with 24-hour flights. You can't just stop the flights from coming. I doubt the installation was a simple thing. I bet it took them most of that time to install it.
People have been making money for centuries, on the lack of preparation . SAD is humanity in a hurry... SAD is great inventions being used for greed instead of "for the people." The casting of the actors IS one of the good things accomplished by MAYDAY though. Living in a country that claims it's a government By the people and FOR the people, does it ever occur to you that PEOPLE SHOULD have a right to NOT BE flown over ? Duh....AIR "SPACE" is now "everyone's' space? (Please, NOT ON OUR ROOF!) The main "tragedy" is cramming so many planes into the sky simultaneously, and saving money for billionaires by limiting the numbers of landing spaces! Had good logic and planning of the INVENTORS been encouraged, Air Collision Avoidance systemS wouldn't even be necessary! Blame it on whatever you want to; do YOU like flying ONLY 1000 feet above another plane traffic controllers KNOW is flying ONLY 1000 FEET BELOW? Stating that this "could have been avoided, had new technology been installed"(and wasn't) to "detect other" planes in your vicinity doesn't seem to be a good "EXCUSE" for this to have happened! TOO MANY planes allowed to travel even a 4000 Foot distance would have caused MAYDAY to loose at least fifty percent of their Mayday disasters! OH, you're landing, fly high, outgoing planes, stay low; how ridiculous. THIS is why we logic states an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of CURE. THE QUESTION is not how many MORE planes can technology build; It's HOW MANY FEWER planes can airports "consider cutting from their $genda so that people who NEED to travel, CAN!? This may be the worst "Mid-Air Collision" but after safely flying 747's for over twenty years, the French want to get FANCY, so they poorly design a plane that charged $9K per passenger FELL out of the sky and killed 500 passengers. (I'm sure they calculated their monetary loss as being quite high also.) Isn't often an ocean cruiser entails running into another cruiser btw. and we've decided we'd rather be one of the 34 survivors out of their 4000 passengers who made it to the island after the "slow sinking" of the Costa Concordia! "Flying in the Morning" By FredGold&LyndaFaye
Just an idea but to save an issue like this, would it be helpful to seperate crossing traffic by 1,000 feet PLUS 100 feet? This would save any misheard altitude and provide a greater margin of error for any mistakes. Yes no plane should be 100 feet apart but in a last case scenario it’s better than an impact. Anyone have thoughts on whether this could work?
@@chrissywales6575 Oh, just cram as many planes you can in, going either way; don't give them extra landing property; make sure all of the ceo's get their profits. (ha just kidding Chrisssy) Living in a country that claims it's a government By the people and FOR the people, does it ever occur to you that PEOPLE SHOULD have a right to NOT BE flown over ? Duh....AIR "SPACE" is now "everyone's' space? The main "tragedy" is cramming so many planes into the sky simultaneously, and saving money for billionaires by limiting the numbers of landing spaces! Had good logic and planning of the INVENTORS been encouraged, Air Collision Avoidance systemS wouldn't even be necessary! Blame it on whatever you want to; do YOU like flying ONLY 1000 feet above another plane traffic controllers KNOW is flying ONLY 1000 FEET BELOW? Stating that this "could have been avoided, had new technology been installed"(and wasn't) to "detect other" planes in your vicinity doesn't seem to be a good "EXCUSE" for this to have happened! TOO MANY planes allowed to travel even a 4000 Foot distance would have caused MAYDAY to loose at least fifty percent of their Mayday disasters! OH, you're landing, fly high, outgoing planes, stay low; how ridiculous. THIS is why we logic states an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of CURE. THE QUESTION is not how many MORE planes can technology build; It's HOW MANY FEWER planes can airports "consider cutting from their $genda so that people who NEED to travel, CAN!? This may be the worst "Mid-Air Collision" but after safely flying 747's for over twenty years, the French want to get FANCY, so they poorly design a plane that charged $9K per passenger FELL out of the sky and killed 500 passengers. (I'm sure they calculated their monetary loss as being quite high also.) Isn't often an ocean cruiser entails running into another cruiser btw. and we've decided we'd rather be one of the 34 survivors out of their 4000 passengers who made it to the island after the "slow sinking" of the Costa Concordia! "Flying in the Morning" By FredGold&LyndaFaye
Try a seven day cruise and bring a floatie with you. The casting of the actors IS one of the good things accomplished by MAYDAY though. Living in a country that claims it's a government By the people and FOR the people, does it ever occur to you that PEOPLE SHOULD have a right to NOT BE flown over ? Duh....AIR "SPACE" is now "everyone's' space? (Please, NOT ON OUR ROOF!) The main "tragedy" is cramming so many planes into the sky simultaneously, and saving money for billionaires by limiting the numbers of landing spaces! Had good logic and planning of the INVENTORS been encouraged, Air Collision Avoidance systemS wouldn't even be necessary! Blame it on whatever you want to; do YOU like flying ONLY 1000 feet above another plane traffic controllers KNOW is flying ONLY 1000 FEET BELOW? Stating that this "could have been avoided, had new technology been installed"(and wasn't) to "detect other" planes in your vicinity doesn't seem to be a good "EXCUSE" for this to have happened! TOO MANY planes allowed to travel even a 4000 Foot distance would have caused MAYDAY to loose at least fifty percent of their Mayday disasters! OH, you're landing, fly high, outgoing planes, stay low; how ridiculous. THIS is why we logic states an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of CURE. THE QUESTION is not how many MORE planes can technology build; It's HOW MANY FEWER planes can airports "consider cutting from their $genda so that people who NEED to travel, CAN!? This may be the worst "Mid-Air Collision" but after safely flying 747's for over twenty years, the French want to get FANCY, so they poorly design a plane that charged $9K per passenger FELL out of the sky and killed 500 passengers. (I'm sure they calculated their monetary loss as being quite high also.) Isn't often an ocean cruiser entails running into another cruiser btw. and we've decided we'd rather be one of the 34 survivors out of their 4000 passengers who made it to the island after the "slow sinking" of the Costa Concordia! "Flying in the Morning" By FredGold&LyndaFaye
I'm not planning to become a pilot but I like traveling by airplane.And unexpectedy, I got interested in this kind of shows. Maybe, It's just out of curiousity. I can even hear the pilots praying before they died. What a sad picture. All of them died.😢
LOGIC AND COMMON SENSE don't play a part in the BUSINESS of flying now, do they? The casting of the actors IS one of the good things accomplished by MAYDAY though. Living in a country that claims it's a government By the people and FOR the people, does it ever occur to you that PEOPLE SHOULD have a right to NOT BE flown over ? Duh....AIR "SPACE" is now "everyone's' space? (Please, NOT ON OUR ROOF!) The main "tragedy" is cramming so many planes into the sky simultaneously, and saving money for billionaires by limiting the numbers of landing spaces! Had good logic and planning of the INVENTORS been encouraged, Air Collision Avoidance systemS wouldn't even be necessary! Blame it on whatever you want to; do YOU like flying ONLY 1000 feet above another plane traffic controllers KNOW is flying ONLY 1000 FEET BELOW? Stating that this "could have been avoided, had new technology been installed"(and wasn't) to "detect other" planes in your vicinity doesn't seem to be a good "EXCUSE" for this to have happened! TOO MANY planes allowed to travel even a 4000 Foot distance would have caused MAYDAY to loose at least fifty percent of their Mayday disasters! OH, you're landing, fly high, outgoing planes, stay low; how ridiculous. THIS is why we logic states an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of CURE. THE QUESTION is not how many MORE planes can technology build; It's HOW MANY FEWER planes can airports "consider cutting from their $genda so that people who NEED to travel, CAN!? This may be the worst "Mid-Air Collision" but after safely flying 747's for over twenty years, the French want to get FANCY, so they poorly design a plane that charged $9K per passenger FELL out of the sky and killed 500 passengers. (I'm sure they calculated their monetary loss as being quite high also.) Isn't often an ocean cruiser entails running into another cruiser btw. and we've decided we'd rather be one of the 34 survivors out of their 4000 passengers who made it to the island after the "slow sinking" of the Costa Concordia! "Flying in the Morning" By FredGold&LyndaFaye
More repeats...... this episode has been uploaded like 15 times already. It's like Mayday youtube channel is trying very hard to bring endless TV reruns into the internet age.
@@kingdomofcybercityanimations They don't. To this date they aired 270 episodes on TV. They so far released only 20 on this channel, the rest are repeats. They clearly own the license so there's no reason not to make others available.
@@harryshuman9637so many people don't realize this is an old TV series 😂 I've seen soany comments on so many of these videos thinking a TH-camr is responsible
My opinion? The miscommunication might have been averted if the Kazhak crew had better CRM, or the ATC controller requested a reconfirmation of altitude or a reduction in airspeed to reduce the overtake, or the aircraft involved had been equipped with TCAS (which I am pretty sure was widely in use in 1996). Or even at the end, if the Kazhak pilot had DESCENDED instead of accelerating and climbing. Ultimately, it was entirely avoidable if the installation of a secondary radar system hadn't been slow walked instead of left sitting around unpacked. That system would have displayed altitude and heading for all contacts and the ATC controller would have seen the altitude encroachment in plenty of time to warn off both aircraft. Just my opinion, based on what little I've read and what I have seen here.
@@MukisaSS The casting of the actors IS one of the good things accomplished by MAYDAY though. Living in a country that claims it's a government By the people and FOR the people, does it ever occur to you that PEOPLE SHOULD have a right to NOT BE flown over ? Duh....AIR "SPACE" is now "everyone's' space? (Please, NOT ON OUR ROOF!) The main "tragedy" is cramming so many planes into the sky simultaneously, and saving money for billionaires by limiting the numbers of landing spaces! Had good logic and planning of the INVENTORS been encouraged, Air Collision Avoidance systemS wouldn't even be necessary! Blame it on whatever you want to; do YOU like flying ONLY 1000 feet above another plane traffic controllers KNOW is flying ONLY 1000 FEET BELOW? Stating that this "could have been avoided, had new technology been installed"(and wasn't) to "detect other" planes in your vicinity doesn't seem to be a good "EXCUSE" for this to have happened! TOO MANY planes allowed to travel even a 4000 Foot distance would have caused MAYDAY to loose at least fifty percent of their Mayday disasters! OH, you're landing, fly high, outgoing planes, stay low; how ridiculous. THIS is why we logic states an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of CURE. THE QUESTION is not how many MORE planes can technology build; It's HOW MANY FEWER planes can airports "consider cutting from their $genda so that people who NEED to travel, CAN!? This may be the worst "Mid-Air Collision" but after safely flying 747's for over twenty years, the French want to get FANCY, so they poorly design a plane that charged $9K per passenger FELL out of the sky and killed 500 passengers. (I'm sure they calculated their monetary loss as being quite high also.) Isn't often an ocean cruiser entails running into another cruiser btw. and we've decided we'd rather be one of the 34 survivors out of their 4000 passengers who made it to the island after the "slow sinking" of the Costa Concordia! "Flying in the Morning" By FredGold&LyndaFaye
I have a feeling that ATC radar doesn’t look anything like what’s being portrayed here. My guess is that each target dot has an indicated callsign. To just have a bunch of dots on a screen would make ATC job impossible to manage.
SAD is humanity in a hurry... SAD is great inventions being used for greed instead of "for the people." The casting of the actors IS one of the good things accomplished by MAYDAY though. Living in a country that claims it's a government By the people and FOR the people, does it ever occur to you that PEOPLE SHOULD have a right to NOT BE flown over ? Duh....AIR "SPACE" is now "everyone's' space? (Please, NOT ON OUR ROOF!) The main "tragedy" is cramming so many planes into the sky simultaneously, and saving money for billionaires by limiting the numbers of landing spaces! Had good logic and planning of the INVENTORS been encouraged, Air Collision Avoidance systemS wouldn't even be necessary! Blame it on whatever you want to; do YOU like flying ONLY 1000 feet above another plane traffic controllers KNOW is flying ONLY 1000 FEET BELOW? Stating that this "could have been avoided, had new technology been installed"(and wasn't) to "detect other" planes in your vicinity doesn't seem to be a good "EXCUSE" for this to have happened! TOO MANY planes allowed to travel even a 4000 Foot distance would have caused MAYDAY to loose at least fifty percent of their Mayday disasters! OH, you're landing, fly high, outgoing planes, stay low; how ridiculous. THIS is why we logic states an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of CURE. THE QUESTION is not how many MORE planes can technology build; It's HOW MANY FEWER planes can airports "consider cutting from their $genda so that people who NEED to travel, CAN!? This may be the worst "Mid-Air Collision" but after safely flying 747's for over twenty years, the French want to get FANCY, so they poorly design a plane that charged $9K per passenger FELL out of the sky and killed 500 passengers. (I'm sure they calculated their monetary loss as being quite high also.) Isn't often an ocean cruiser entails running into another cruiser btw. and we've decided we'd rather be one of the 34 survivors out of their 4000 passengers who made it to the island after the "slow sinking" of the Costa Concordia! "Flying in the Morning" By FredGold&LyndaFaye
@@AnetaMihaylova-d6f I feel their "choices" were slim. SAD is humanity in a hurry... SAD is great inventions being used for greed instead of "for the people." The casting of the actors IS one of the good things accomplished by MAYDAY though. Living in a country that claims it's a government By the people and FOR the people, does it ever occur to you that PEOPLE SHOULD have a right to NOT BE flown over ? Duh....AIR "SPACE" is now "everyone's' space? (Please, NOT ON OUR ROOF!) The main "tragedy" is cramming so many planes into the sky simultaneously, and saving money for billionaires by limiting the numbers of landing spaces! Had good logic and planning of the INVENTORS been encouraged, Air Collision Avoidance systemS wouldn't even be necessary! Blame it on whatever you want to; do YOU like flying ONLY 1000 feet above another plane traffic controllers KNOW is flying ONLY 1000 FEET BELOW? Stating that this "could have been avoided, had new technology been installed"(and wasn't) to "detect other" planes in your vicinity doesn't seem to be a good "EXCUSE" for this to have happened! TOO MANY planes allowed to travel even a 4000 Foot distance would have caused MAYDAY to loose at least fifty percent of their Mayday disasters! OH, you're landing, fly high, outgoing planes, stay low; how ridiculous. THIS is why we logic states an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of CURE. THE QUESTION is not how many MORE planes can technology build; It's HOW MANY FEWER planes can airports "consider cutting from their $genda so that people who NEED to travel, CAN!? This may be the worst "Mid-Air Collision" but after safely flying 747's for over twenty years, the French want to get FANCY, so they poorly design a plane that charged $9K per passenger FELL out of the sky and killed 500 passengers. (I'm sure they calculated their monetary loss as being quite high also.) Isn't often an ocean cruiser entails running into another cruiser btw. and we've decided we'd rather be one of the 34 survivors out of their 4000 passengers who made it to the island after the "slow sinking" of the Costa Concordia! "Flying in the Morning" By FredGold&LyndaFaye
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I can't imagine the horrific moment when an air traffic controller realizes that one plane, let alone two. are no longer on the screen or answering a call.
The situation is so horrifying all around, because he also knew that they would investigate him as well. So glad he was able to continue his career, and be able to help prevent it from happening again
@@AccidentallyOnPurpose Absolutely!
A mid-air collision is every air traffic controller’s worst nightmare.
Walter White was below such an event
ATC controllers, at some point, had the highest suicide rate out of any other job due to the constant stress and long hours.
This has to be one of my favorite series I've watched nearly every episode. Very well produced especially with the period accurate sets.
Same! I am getting ready to fly home and think about the fact if 💩 goes sideways, I'll just wrap my arms around my kids, tell them how much I love them so that I am the last thing they feel and hear. If I fly alone, I am a nervous wreck, but when my kids are with me, I can pretend to be cool. The funny thing is that we fly ALL the time.
@@ClearwaterKB “You could get killed walking your doggie!!” - Detective Vincent Hannah, from the 1995 movie HEAT.
Did you actually watch 270 episodes on TV or just the 20 episodes on TH-cam reposted a million times?
@harryshuman9637 probably more than that now, lol. I certainly haven't gotten through all episodes, but I've managed to get a number more outside of TH-cam as I do enjoy watching them.
I also enjoy the compilations which aren't full episodes as well. But I don't think we're getting any new seasons soon without paying for them. And I don't see anything new on TH-cam anytime soon, just new mixes of already posted stuff.
Not MY dog.
So sad. So many families suffering loss. It's noble work to publicize this content.
Noble? How so?
@@weerskroodTells the stories of the accidents and deaths and shows how far we have improved since then, its basically showing us each accident that writes rules in the rule book written by blood that has given us the safety of modern aviation
Makes you think about how close eternity is, better call on the name of Jesus in honest prayer perhaps you'll find out what the real church is and the real gospel.
@@actsismmljcorrectlyobeyed6190
What rubbish.
Feel grief at the horrendous loss of so many, and the inconsolable devastation felt by the families and friends of so many who died in these (& other) crashes.
Jesus - if he even existed - has nothing to do with it and thinking of or praying to him is completely unnecessary as he has no affect on the lost or their connections.
Don't try to give hope where none exists. It's cruel and a waste of breath.
@brigidsingleton1596 It's your only hope, life is short but sounds like yours is even shorter!
Poor Mr. Datta. This incident was absolutely devastating to him. I have seen other accounts of a controller being taken out of the ATC facility. absolutely comatose with grief.
Watching this at the airport is crazy all by itself.
😁. Yeah, I’m convinced the plane is going to crash every time I fly anyway, so I’m not sure if it would be any worse watching these at the airport. The people sitting around you probably think you’re nuts though…😄
Lol no lol I have a flight next week
You're a brave man
@@RyariosI mean on the off chance your craft does have to make an emergency landing, you’ll at least have learned how to get into the brace position, to listen to the flight attendants, to not take bags etc when escaping, so whilst it may be morbid, you’re learning something that can be used on the 0.000001% something happens
@@MrSilas-xo9np yes, watching Air Disaster Investigation episode on your iPhone is also not popular on a plane during the flight
The people in charge of the airport should be ashamed of themselves, 2 years...YEARS before the new radar was put in place when they just had it in storage? Absolutely horrible. I hope they live everyday knowing that because they didn't try to implement it as soon as they got it, work it into their daily logistics, so many people needlessly died.
They also had 3 near misses following this crash as mentioned in the episode towards the end. The whole system was in a mess. No secondary radar, poor communication skills from both sides (Indian accent is difficult to understand), only having ONE corridor for takeoff and landing. What an absolute madness!
@@uponsunnah6986 Lmao that's your skill issue that u don't understand indian accent but pilot's do that's why there not been any crashes involving Atc error
You can blame who ever you want. Why didn't the people vote for a government that took aviation safety seriously?
@@uponsunnah6986 HEY, INSTALLING THE NEW SYSTEM IS NOT THE SAME AS BUYING A PERSONAL DESKTOP COMPUTER!!!
IS NOT A FREAKING PLUG-N-PLAY!!!
The airport would need to shut down for a month or two to install & check that it's function!!!
Considering this is India, demand of flight here is HIGHER & WORST then taking a flight in La Guardia so shutting down means OVERLOADING OTHER INDIAN AIRPORT WHICH ARE ALREADY IN OVERCAPACITY
@@yokikokudou relax and take accountability. Why so defensive lol. It can be easily installed and operated while having a contingency plan alternatively. But then this is India! Lol
They've ordered a Secondary radar worth $500 million in today's money only to sit in one of the Indira Gandhi Airport's hanger for more than two years, WOW what a disregard for lives, money and technology, I mean isn't it the human nature that when you buy a new anything you can't wait to use it? like a Toy, Phone, Car etc? I don't know what is wrong with government people. Preposterous.
It happens all the time in all sorts of industries. They buy the equipment and then realize they don’t have the funds to install it (maybe the bids were all much higher than anticipated or they discovered something about the installation that required it to go back to engineering.), or other things come up that are pushed to a higher priority. It’s sad, but you would probably be shocked at how often it happens.
In fact, if I’m not mistaken, this isn’t the only accident where the controlling airport had the updated radar system sitting in crates at the airport for years.
I've known people to "preserve" things.
@@Ryariosit sadly isn’t, like you’d think folk would learn “huh, maybe we should install this better system we have just sitting here in crates”, but no, you end up with ANOTHER incident happening. It’s just mind boggling
@@ZombieSazza This equipment often requires the construction of towers and other changes to the airport. It does not simply sit on the desk. Reusing existing towers may be possible, but the changeover of the rotating scanners could take months.
It is easy not to look at the complete picture when changing systems at an operational airport. The delivery date of the equipment will normally be at least a year before commissioning.
@@ZombieSazza HEY, INSTALLING THE NEW SYSTEM IS NOT THE SAME AS BUYING A PERSONAL DESKTOP COMPUTER!!!
IT'S NOT A FREAKING PLUG-N-PLAY SYSTEM!!!
The airport would need to shut down for a month or two to install & check that it's function!!!
Considering this is India, demand of flight here is HIGHER & WORST then taking a flight in La Guardia so shutting down means OVERLOADING OTHER INDIAN AIRPORT WHICH ARE ALREADY IN OVERCAPACITY
It’s sad. These accidents are filled with ‘if onlys’. If only the com officer paid closer attention to their altitude, if only the pilots had paid more attention to radio communications, if only they had descended slower, if only either plane was traveling a little slower or faster, if only either plane had taken off a minute later, if only the airport had secondary radar, if only TCAS had been implemented in these aircraft, and a thousand more. Any of the ‘if onlys’ could have broken the chain of events that led to so much death and destruction and yet, nothing did.
That’s the thing about accidents, there is almost always a chain of events leading up to it. Break one of those links and it doesn’t happen. Yet they happen after all that.
only if one thing did not happen and every one lives . Yes it's sad
And it’s called Fate
The Swiss cheese model - when all the holes eventually line up and every layer of safety fails and leads to a catastrophic incident
Blame it on whatever you want to; do YOU like flying ONLY 1000 feet above another plane traffic controllers KNOW is flying ONLY 1000 FEET BELOW? Stating that this "could have been avoided, had new technology been installed"(and wasn't) to "detect other" planes in your vicinity doesn't seem to be a good "EXCUSE" for this to have happened! TOO MANY planes allowed to travel even a 4000 Foot distance would have caused MAYDAY to loose at least fifty percent of their Mayday disasters! OH, you're landing, fly high, outgoing planes, stay low; how ridiculous. THIS is why we logic states an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of CURE. THE QUESTION is not how many MORE planes can technology build; It's HOW MANY FEWER planes can airports "consider cutting from their $genda so that people who NEED to travel, CAN!?
This may be the worst "Mid-Air Collision" but after safely flying 747's for over twenty years, the French want to get FANCY, so they poorly design a plane that charged $9K per passenger FELL out of the sky and killed 500 passengers. (I'm sure they calculated their monetary loss as being quite high also.)
Isn't often an ocean cruiser entails running into another cruiser btw. and we've decided we'd rather be one of the 34 survivors out of their 4000 passengers who made it to the island after the "slow sinking" of the Costa Concordia!
"Flying in the Morning"
By FredGold&LyndaFaye
I just cannot understand how and why the secondary radar system was at the airport but took 2 YEARS BEFORE IT WAS INSTALLED!!!! By the way, this was the worst mid-air collision at that time according to a couple of other Mayday videos.
It's still the worst midair collision in history.
I'm very glad to watch you again.
One of my favorite channels ❤
Rest in peace all of the victims. My deepest condolences to all of their loved ones 🙏
So sad. Pilot error. Inattentiveness. Lack of English fluency. Sad.
Another excellent documentary of a tragic occurance. Very well done!
As soon as I saw those radar screens I thought it was very odd that they did not show anything but a blip. No info on what plane it is and nothing about altitude . So even without every flying a plane or being in radar room I knew that was a messed up system
That technology didn't used to be possible. It was only in WWII that they developed the ability to tell the difference between friend and foe, and that had to be done manually by the pilots. The planes and the ground have to have the proper equiptment. In the 1960s-2000s, the technology surrounding planes was advancing so quickly, that perhaps that particular airport didn't feel it was worth it to purchase a radar that would soon be outdated.
You have to remember that until the 1960s they didn't even used to have radar, or flight plans. The pilots could fly however they liked. The only communications were in takeoff and landing. Then they only had flight plans and the paper strips. What was used at the time of the crash in this airport was primary radar. I do believe some places still use it to this day. But we have better technology so that the planes know where eachother are, so there is less risk.
This videos are very well put together
It's a TV series
@@772amanda237 tks
So,$118,000,000 sat in a room for 2 years?!
What a waste. 😢
I watched one episode yesterday and now I can not stop.
1000 ft between 2 speeding jets sure seems like threading the needle. That's too damn close even if everything is perfect. That's crazy.
It’s still safer than a semi-truck and a car containing your loved ones passing opposite ways on a two-lane highway at 60 mph with only six feet between the two vehicles. So many drivers become distracted and veer head on into the oncoming vehicle on a daily basis around the world. I think that’s crazy!
@@jonkaminsky8382isn’t it funny that we do stuff like this all the time and think nothing of it? People get too complacent.
That close together, if the pilot burps, you got trouble.
@@bobdillaber1195 well just have to make burping and farting in the cockpit against regulations…😁
@@jonkaminsky8382 not safer. If you sideswipe a car or truck you can still survive and even save your car. You clip another plane in the air even if it just clips your wing, your plane is going down and everyone will die.
Such a tragedy that almost reapated three more times before the new system was p..implemented .
It's sad though how it takes a devastating tragedy before what needs to be done is done or to have changes. 😢 49:43
The main "tragedy" is cramming so many planes into the sky simultaneously, and saving money for billionaires by limiting the numbers of landing spaces! Had good logic and planning of the INVENTORS been encouraged, Air Collision Avoidance systemS wouldn't even be necessary!
Blame it on whatever you want to; do YOU like flying ONLY 1000 feet above another plane traffic controllers KNOW is flying ONLY 1000 FEET BELOW? Stating that this "could have been avoided, had new technology been installed"(and wasn't) to "detect other" planes in your vicinity doesn't seem to be a good "EXCUSE" for this to have happened! TOO MANY planes allowed to travel even a 4000 Foot distance would have caused MAYDAY to loose at least fifty percent of their Mayday disasters! OH, you're landing, fly high, outgoing planes, stay low; how ridiculous. THIS is why we logic states an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of CURE. THE QUESTION is not how many MORE planes can technology build; It's HOW MANY FEWER planes can airports "consider cutting from their $genda so that people who NEED to travel, CAN!?
This may be the worst "Mid-Air Collision" but after safely flying 747's for over twenty years, the French want to get FANCY, so they poorly design a plane that charged $9K per passenger FELL out of the sky and killed 500 passengers. (I'm sure they calculated their monetary loss as being quite high also.)
Isn't often an ocean cruiser entails running into another cruiser btw. and we've decided we'd rather be one of the 34 survivors out of their 4000 passengers who made it to the island after the "slow sinking" of the Costa Concordia!
"Flying in the Morning"
By FredGold&LyndaFaye
This is so tragic, RIP to all the lives lost😢😢❤💔
RIP. Irony is that it would have been actually avoided if the Kazakhstan plane didn't try to climb back to 15k ft
R.I.P. of flight 763 and 1907
I've watched so many of these that a crash seems to be the controllers fault entirely. So this one was different that the controller had all his ducks in a row but the pilots messed up.
Aircraft accidents are overwhelmingly human errors and often more than one. If it’s not the pilot, it’s the controller, maintenance guy, airline exec, aircraft engineer, etc. it’s almost never just some item failed out of the blue.
Controllers AND pilots are depending on their instruments most of the time; ASSUMING can be a bad habit in all businesses.
Living in a country that claims it's a government By the people and FOR the people, does it ever occur to you that PEOPLE SHOULD have a right to NOT BE flown over ? Duh....AIR "SPACE" is now "everyone's' space?
The main "tragedy" is cramming so many planes into the sky simultaneously, and saving money for billionaires by limiting the numbers of landing spaces! Had good logic and planning of the INVENTORS been encouraged, Air Collision Avoidance systemS wouldn't even be necessary!
Blame it on whatever you want to; do YOU like flying ONLY 1000 feet above another plane traffic controllers KNOW is flying ONLY 1000 FEET BELOW? Stating that this "could have been avoided, had new technology been installed"(and wasn't) to "detect other" planes in your vicinity doesn't seem to be a good "EXCUSE" for this to have happened! TOO MANY planes allowed to travel even a 4000 Foot distance would have caused MAYDAY to loose at least fifty percent of their Mayday disasters! OH, you're landing, fly high, outgoing planes, stay low; how ridiculous. THIS is why we logic states an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of CURE. THE QUESTION is not how many MORE planes can technology build; It's HOW MANY FEWER planes can airports "consider cutting from their $genda so that people who NEED to travel, CAN!?
This may be the worst "Mid-Air Collision" but after safely flying 747's for over twenty years, the French want to get FANCY, so they poorly design a plane that charged $9K per passenger FELL out of the sky and killed 500 passengers. (I'm sure they calculated their monetary loss as being quite high also.)
Isn't often an ocean cruiser entails running into another cruiser btw. and we've decided we'd rather be one of the 34 survivors out of their 4000 passengers who made it to the island after the "slow sinking" of the Costa Concordia!
"Flying in the Morning"
By FredGold&LyndaFaye
I remember this accident when I was in Bangalore. This was one of the worst mid-air collisions. After this accident, the "Air Collision Avoidance System" introduced in the flights.
It is still is the worst mid-air collision in history in terms of fatalities. Even today.
Had good logic and planning of the INVENTORS been encouraged, Air Collision Avoidance systemS wouldn't even be necessary!
Blame it on whatever you want to; do YOU like flying ONLY 1000 feet above another plane traffic controllers KNOW is flying ONLY 1000 FEET BELOW? Stating that this "could have been avoided, had new technology been installed"(and wasn't) to "detect other" planes in your vicinity doesn't seem to be a good "EXCUSE" for this to have happened! TOO MANY planes allowed to travel even a 4000 Foot distance would have caused MAYDAY to loose at least fifty percent of their Mayday disasters! OH, you're landing, fly high, outgoing planes, stay low; how ridiculous. THIS is why we logic states an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of CURE. THE QUESTION is not how many MORE planes can technology build; It's HOW MANY FEWER planes can airports "consider cutting from their $genda so that people who NEED to travel, CAN!?
This may be the worst "Mid-Air Collision" but after safely flying 747's for over twenty years, the French want to get FANCY, so they poorly design a plane that charged $9K per passenger FELL out of the sky and killed 500 passengers. (I'm sure they calculated their monetary loss as being quite high also.)
Isn't often an ocean cruiser entails running into another cruiser btw. and we've decided we'd rather be one of the 34 survivors out of their 4000 passengers who made it to the island after the "slow sinking" of the Costa Concordia!
"Flying in the Morning"
By FredGold&LyndaFaye
The sad thing is that if the radio operation on the Kazakh flight had not looked at the altimeter again, or hadn’t warned the crew to stay at FL150, their plane WOULD have flown under the Saudi 747 and no one would have been the wiser. 😢
Meaning if you make first mistake then don’t correct it 😂😂😂
It is destiny. So many things could have been done to prevent the accident, but none worked out.
@@InvincibleAkuma Have you ever heard of an inventor named Benjamine Franklin?
The main "tragedy" is cramming so many planes into the sky simultaneously, and saving money for billionaires by limiting the numbers of landing spaces! Had good logic and planning of the INVENTORS been encouraged, Air Collision Avoidance systemS wouldn't even be necessary!
Blame it on whatever you want to; do YOU like flying ONLY 1000 feet above another plane traffic controllers KNOW is flying ONLY 1000 FEET BELOW? Stating that this "could have been avoided, had new technology been installed"(and wasn't) to "detect other" planes in your vicinity doesn't seem to be a good "EXCUSE" for this to have happened! TOO MANY planes allowed to travel even a 4000 Foot distance would have caused MAYDAY to loose at least fifty percent of their Mayday disasters! OH, you're landing, fly high, outgoing planes, stay low; how ridiculous. THIS is why we logic states an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of CURE. THE QUESTION is not how many MORE planes can technology build; It's HOW MANY FEWER planes can airports "consider cutting from their $genda so that people who NEED to travel, CAN!?
This may be the worst "Mid-Air Collision" but after safely flying 747's for over twenty years, the French want to get FANCY, so they poorly design a plane that charged $9K per passenger FELL out of the sky and killed 500 passengers. (I'm sure they calculated their monetary loss as being quite high also.)
Isn't often an ocean cruiser entails running into another cruiser btw. and we've decided we'd rather be one of the 34 survivors out of their 4000 passengers who made it to the island after the "slow sinking" of the Costa Concordia!
"Flying in the Morning"
By FredGold&LyndaFaye
Why people have to die for authorities to make changes?
@@yolamontalvan9502 - $$$. unfortunately many companies weigh potential loss of life against cost of implementing necessary changes.
@yolamontalvan9502 it's called the tombstone cost and greed
That’s why it’s called Tombstone Mentality - change only happens AFTER people die, even tho they know it would be safer to make these changes, they just decide money is more important than folk living. It’s honestly a disgusting way of treating other peoples lives when you’re responsible for them
Often we can't forsee a problem / fault until it occurs for the first time
Because some accidents require changes to previous protocols.
When are you going to do a show on crash in Evansville, IN, in late 90's? A military plane crashed into hotel, killing a dozen of my friends. It was extreme disaster for the whole city of Evansville, a city of 160,000 people.
Is this the Drury Inn one? Mayday (Air Crash Investigations) show has never covered this, maybe you could 📧 them with this as a suggestion? They’re pretty active online 🐦 and post regularly with “on this day in year XYZ” about historic incidents around the world, but the show has only covered a certain amount of the sheer amount that’s happened globally, where 90% of the crashes they cover are civilian and not military.
Might be worth your time contacting them through social media or finding an 📧 !
Sorry for emojis, gotta love YT censorship (no idea what word is upsetting the 🤖)
Is this the Drury Inn one? Mayday show has never covered this, maybe you could 📧 them with this as a suggestion? They’re pretty active 🐦 and post regularly with “on this day in year XYZ” about historic incidents around the world, but the show has only covered a certain amount of the sheer amount that’s happened globally, where 90% of what they cover are civilian and not military.
Might be worth your time contacting them through socials or finding an 📧 !
Yes, over a dozen people burned to death, just south of airport besides the 9 crew. It was typical military negligence, as they were practicing touch & go landings with a huge heavy plane not designed to do be treated like that, especially by cadets with very little training.
@@exploreworldbirds Your 12 friends must not be as important as the hundreds or peoppe who died in this crash I guess
Living in a country that claims it's a government By the people and FOR the people, does it ever occur to you that PEOPLE SHOULD have a right to NOT BE flown over ? Duh....AIR "SPACE" is now "everyone's' space?
The main "tragedy" is cramming so many planes into the sky simultaneously, and saving money for billionaires by limiting the numbers of landing spaces! Had good logic and planning of the INVENTORS been encouraged, Air Collision Avoidance systemS wouldn't even be necessary!
Blame it on whatever you want to; do YOU like flying ONLY 1000 feet above another plane traffic controllers KNOW is flying ONLY 1000 FEET BELOW? Stating that this "could have been avoided, had new technology been installed"(and wasn't) to "detect other" planes in your vicinity doesn't seem to be a good "EXCUSE" for this to have happened! TOO MANY planes allowed to travel even a 4000 Foot distance would have caused MAYDAY to loose at least fifty percent of their Mayday disasters! OH, you're landing, fly high, outgoing planes, stay low; how ridiculous. THIS is why we logic states an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of CURE. THE QUESTION is not how many MORE planes can technology build; It's HOW MANY FEWER planes can airports "consider cutting from their $genda so that people who NEED to travel, CAN!?
This may be the worst "Mid-Air Collision" but after safely flying 747's for over twenty years, the French want to get FANCY, so they poorly design a plane that charged $9K per passenger FELL out of the sky and killed 500 passengers. (I'm sure they calculated their monetary loss as being quite high also.)
Isn't often an ocean cruiser entails running into another cruiser btw. and we've decided we'd rather be one of the 34 survivors out of their 4000 passengers who made it to the island after the "slow sinking" of the Costa Concordia!
"Flying in the Morning"
By FredGold&LyndaFaye
I think updating us and elaborating more is kind of the ppl involved with this project… someday they will be covering little wrecks. I would like to know more about crashed helicopters.
This was a TV series that started airing in 2003, not a TH-cam project
The only bad thing about these docs is the audio mixing. The narrator has been quiet relative to the rest of the video as of late
By reading these stories of mid-air collisions, and considering when it happens, it's reported, I must conclude there also are numerous misses by a meter or so. For every collision, there are several almost-collisions. Those aren't as destructive, of course, but can you imagine what the passengers must have gone through?
This episode is 25 years old. How about some new ones from the 100+ years of aviation accidents? They are already solved too.
This was a TV series. I don't think they are producing it anymore
@@772amanda237 yes,they produce these series till date currently running season 24
That radar for ATC that they were using needs to report ALL vital information about all aircraft flying in the vicinity of all major cities, including position, altitude, and speed. All ATC towers across the world need that. In addition to onboard aircraft systems, like TCAS, to prevent mid-air collisions as well as sterile and clear communications amongst all air crews in the cockpits of all aircraft that are airborne. Everything for a smooth, safe, and secure airspace across the world. RIP to all who died on this day aboard both aircraft.
I am waiting for the time when all pilot have a 3d image of their local airspace, so they can see what is where around them. It is only a matter of time.
The grin on the Illushin's face is terrifying.
Sometimes unfortunately tragedy must happen before the fix is put in place. Very sad
So either the NTSB or the comparable British agency does the investigation. I find that rather strange,given that New Delhi is not even close to Europe. So to avoid bias or to control everything better? Good question.
After seeing these aircraft disaster documentaries, you need not ask why I no longer agree to climb onto an airplane under any circumstance.
But you need to realize planes are getting safer and technologies are becoming more advanced. Air travel will keep getting safer if companies won’t cut corners in the sake of budgeting and lining their own pockets
I was 5 when I witnessed a small plane crash and explode in eastern PA summer of1959. My dad was parked and running for the plane when it came down in a cornfield, and pulled the pilot to safety just before it exploded into a huge ball of flames. I never fly. And we have all seen the 9/11 videos...
And then, there’s the TSA nightmare - which is a lot worse if you have certain disabilities, especially if the consequences of those disabilities look like extreme social phobia.
Being scared of flying is one thing, but fear of the TSA ordeal is *WORSE.*
Do you refuse to drive or be driven anywhere as well? Road traffic is more dangerous than air traffic
Ha, paragraph three----Go slow you'll get there-try Rick Steves OCEAN TOURS. I'd gladly forfeit seven days to reach my destination with two different countries' coast guards and investigators standing by!
Living in a country that claims it's a government By the people and FOR the people, does it ever occur to you that PEOPLE SHOULD have a right to NOT BE flown over ? Duh....AIR "SPACE" is now "everyone's' space?
The main "tragedy" is cramming so many planes into the sky simultaneously, and saving money for billionaires by limiting the numbers of landing spaces! Had good logic and planning of the INVENTORS been encouraged, Air Collision Avoidance systemS wouldn't even be necessary!
Blame it on whatever you want to; do YOU like flying ONLY 1000 feet above another plane traffic controllers KNOW is flying ONLY 1000 FEET BELOW? Stating that this "could have been avoided, had new technology been installed"(and wasn't) to "detect other" planes in your vicinity doesn't seem to be a good "EXCUSE" for this to have happened! TOO MANY planes allowed to travel even a 4000 Foot distance would have caused MAYDAY to loose at least fifty percent of their Mayday disasters! OH, you're landing, fly high, outgoing planes, stay low; how ridiculous. THIS is why we logic states an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of CURE. THE QUESTION is not how many MORE planes can technology build; It's HOW MANY FEWER planes can airports "consider cutting from their $genda so that people who NEED to travel, CAN!?
This may be the worst "Mid-Air Collision" but after safely flying 747's for over twenty years, the French want to get FANCY, so they poorly design a plane that charged $9K per passenger FELL out of the sky and killed 500 passengers. (I'm sure they calculated their monetary loss as being quite high also.)
Isn't often an ocean cruiser entails running into another cruiser btw. and we've decided we'd rather be one of the 34 survivors out of their 4000 passengers who made it to the island after the "slow sinking" of the Costa Concordia!
"Flying in the Morning"
By FredGold&LyndaFaye
it took 2 years to install new technology after the crash. India sure was not in a hurry to save lives smh
Seems common sense to move the heading of both planes to their selective lefts that way the altitude isn't the only thing separating them
Very simple solution that nobody else sees.
Planes have to fly on certain flight paths in and out of the airspace surrounding airports. This allows them to line up with waypoints to report their position accurately, and to know exactly where and when they should turn to be on approach for final. It's literally a highway in the sky. Especially around airports, it is FAR too dangerous to let planes fly willy-nilly around the sky. Airways are typically about four miles wide, so it is truly just terrible luck that these two colliding jets happened to be THAT close to each other. But it is the approach controller's job to guide arriving and departing flights along the flight path until they're far enough away from the airport that turning them is okay. It's not as simple as "turning them 20 degrees," if he did that then he would be encroaching on the surrounding airspace and causing MORE problems. For airports as busy as this, landing procedures for ATC start as far as 120 miles out. They have to get every flight organized and ready to land safely. Leaving the approaching flight overhead until the departing flight has passed is entirely normal and standard, and the safest way to do it. You don't know for sure, especially with this older radar, that the approaching flight can descend fast enough to miss the traffic below, OR that the departing flight can climb fast enough, either. 1,000ft of space between each and every flight is one of the many ways that airplanes are kept separated, especially when on approach for a busy airport. There is nothing wrong with this practice, and EVERYTHING wrong with the outdated radar that the controller was using - because if he had something more advanced that actually displays each flight's altitude, he would have been able to get them under and over each other while still guaranteeing separation.
Sorry that this got so long, but there was just a lot wrong with the assumptions made in your comment. (Source: I am an ATC student)
@@WitchofMindnever apologise for writing an in depth comment about your field in ATC, it helps everyone learn! I wish you well with your career!!!
@@WitchofMind best of luck for your career
I like the telex 610 headphones with the added Gateway computer microphone in the Kazakh plane.
the weird thing is that they would not have collided if the Kazakhs had not tried to correct their altitude immediately
WEIRD is hearing that there's only 1000 feet between a "prescribed" take off and a LAND to begin with. RIDICULOUS.
Living in a country that claims it's a government By the people and FOR the people, does it ever occur to you that PEOPLE SHOULD have a right to NOT BE flown over ? Duh....AIR "SPACE" is now "everyone's' space?
The main "tragedy" is cramming so many planes into the sky simultaneously, and saving money for billionaires by limiting the numbers of landing spaces! Had good logic and planning of the INVENTORS been encouraged, Air Collision Avoidance systemS wouldn't even be necessary!
Blame it on whatever you want to; do YOU like flying ONLY 1000 feet above another plane traffic controllers KNOW is flying ONLY 1000 FEET BELOW? Stating that this "could have been avoided, had new technology been installed"(and wasn't) to "detect other" planes in your vicinity doesn't seem to be a good "EXCUSE" for this to have happened! TOO MANY planes allowed to travel even a 4000 Foot distance would have caused MAYDAY to loose at least fifty percent of their Mayday disasters! OH, you're landing, fly high, outgoing planes, stay low; how ridiculous. THIS is why we logic states an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of CURE. THE QUESTION is not how many MORE planes can technology build; It's HOW MANY FEWER planes can airports "consider cutting from their $genda so that people who NEED to travel, CAN!?
This may be the worst "Mid-Air Collision" but after safely flying 747's for over twenty years, the French want to get FANCY, so they poorly design a plane that charged $9K per passenger FELL out of the sky and killed 500 passengers. (I'm sure they calculated their monetary loss as being quite high also.)
Isn't often an ocean cruiser entails running into another cruiser btw. and we've decided we'd rather be one of the 34 survivors out of their 4000 passengers who made it to the island after the "slow sinking" of the Costa Concordia!
"Flying in the Morning"
By FredGold&LyndaFaye
The cockpit voice recorder picks up all conversations. Like "Oh my God!"
Man this was even worse than those planes that collided over Albuquerque. I guess the air traffic controllers daughter had recently overdosed, sad stuff.
41:40 my fyp be like
thank you that you share, we learn a lot but it is MONO, what went wrong and where? Sound is 70 % of a job well done.
I can't imagine the horror of the atc when he heard 2 fires on ground
If the Kazakhstan flight had kept descending, they might have actually avoided the collision. It seems their attempt to get back up to 15,000 put them directly in the same spot as the Saudi plane
Air traffic controller: "PHEW".... Ya, I'd never do that job. Too much liability/pressure. It does seem like things are much safer today. It's crazy to think that the system used to simply rely on the pilots telling the controller what their elevation was. Also, this idea that the communications officer was relaying altitude, but didn't bother to tell the pilot to hold at 15K just shows how easily such errors can occur, and that the pilot him or herself needs to hear those messages from air traffic control.
We've known a few; They can ONLY DO what their instruments TELL them to do.
Living in a country that claims it's a government By the people and FOR the people, does it ever occur to you that PEOPLE SHOULD have a right to NOT BE flown over ? Duh....AIR "SPACE" is now "everyone's' space?
The main "tragedy" is cramming so many planes into the sky simultaneously, and saving money for billionaires by limiting the numbers of landing spaces! Had good logic and planning of the INVENTORS been encouraged, Air Collision Avoidance systemS wouldn't even be necessary!
Blame it on whatever you want to; do YOU like flying ONLY 1000 feet above another plane traffic controllers KNOW is flying ONLY 1000 FEET BELOW? Stating that this "could have been avoided, had new technology been installed"(and wasn't) to "detect other" planes in your vicinity doesn't seem to be a good "EXCUSE" for this to have happened! TOO MANY planes allowed to travel even a 4000 Foot distance would have caused MAYDAY to loose at least fifty percent of their Mayday disasters! OH, you're landing, fly high, outgoing planes, stay low; how ridiculous. THIS is why we logic states an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of CURE. THE QUESTION is not how many MORE planes can technology build; It's HOW MANY FEWER planes can airports "consider cutting from their $genda so that people who NEED to travel, CAN!?
This may be the worst "Mid-Air Collision" but after safely flying 747's for over twenty years, the French want to get FANCY, so they poorly design a plane that charged $9K per passenger FELL out of the sky and killed 500 passengers. (I'm sure they calculated their monetary loss as being quite high also.)
Isn't often an ocean cruiser entails running into another cruiser btw. and we've decided we'd rather be one of the 34 survivors out of their 4000 passengers who made it to the island after the "slow sinking" of the Costa Concordia!
"Flying in the Morning"
By FredGold&LyndaFaye
I was never afraid of flying until I started to watch these videos. So many lives ripped apart 😢.
considering 35,000 auto deaths in the US each year, why do you still drive a car?
Statistically, these days in commercial aviation the chances of you getting in an air accident in a single flight is less than 1/100.000, it being fatal is a fraction of even that.
I'm the opposite, I cured my fear of flying by watching these documentaries!
Look at flight scanner sometime and see how many planes there in the air at all times. The number of accidents is minuscule
@@Ama-Elaini Yes, we're much more wary of the RIDE on the freeway to Ports O'Call to get our cruiseship, than the cruise too!Living in a country that claims it's a government By the people and FOR the people, does it ever occur to you that PEOPLE SHOULD have a right to NOT BE flown over ? Duh....AIR "SPACE" is now "everyone's' space?
The main "tragedy" is cramming so many planes into the sky simultaneously, and saving money for billionaires by limiting the numbers of landing spaces! Had good logic and planning of the INVENTORS been encouraged, Air Collision Avoidance systemS wouldn't even be necessary!
Blame it on whatever you want to; do YOU like flying ONLY 1000 feet above another plane traffic controllers KNOW is flying ONLY 1000 FEET BELOW? Stating that this "could have been avoided, had new technology been installed"(and wasn't) to "detect other" planes in your vicinity doesn't seem to be a good "EXCUSE" for this to have happened! TOO MANY planes allowed to travel even a 4000 Foot distance would have caused MAYDAY to loose at least fifty percent of their Mayday disasters! OH, you're landing, fly high, outgoing planes, stay low; how ridiculous. THIS is why we logic states an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of CURE. THE QUESTION is not how many MORE planes can technology build; It's HOW MANY FEWER planes can airports "consider cutting from their $genda so that people who NEED to travel, CAN!?
This may be the worst "Mid-Air Collision" but after safely flying 747's for over twenty years, the French want to get FANCY, so they poorly design a plane that charged $9K per passenger FELL out of the sky and killed 500 passengers. (I'm sure they calculated their monetary loss as being quite high also.)
Isn't often an ocean cruiser entails running into another cruiser btw. and we've decided we'd rather be one of the 34 survivors out of their 4000 passengers who made it to the island after the "slow sinking" of the Costa Concordia!
"Flying in the Morning"
By FredGold&LyndaFaye
The skies are simply getting way, way, way too crowded.
Oh love, this was in 1996. So your belief might be true. But we have so many less crashes now in 2023. ❤
It shows how bad of a disaster Tenerife was when it still took 200 more lives than this one.
Although planes have no radar to tract other aircraft, they have instead TCAS, or Traffic Collision Avoidance System. Why did it not warn the pilots of either flight of a potential conflict? Suddenly popped up in my mind.
Maybe broke our switch off is my guess there although haven’t watched full documentary yet
Neither plane had TCAS installed
Why wouldn't you also have horizontal separation at all times?
They explained that at this airport civil aircraft can only use one traffic lane so horizontal separation wouldn’t be easy.
Fatality😮😮😮and more professionalism is vital😢no TCAS and no communication in the cockpit😢
Something as important as talking to the Tower especially during Landing and descending should be the responsibility of the pilot and the co-pilot only they're flying the plane it shouldn't go to one person and then be translated to another person that's a recipe for disaster that is just heartbreaking
MY friend dated allot of pilots she'd met at LAX-She said most of them are lucky to be sober before they fly!
Living in a country that claims it's a government By the people and FOR the people, does it ever occur to you that PEOPLE SHOULD have a right to NOT BE flown over ? Duh....AIR "SPACE" is now "everyone's' space?
The main "tragedy" is cramming so many planes into the sky simultaneously, and saving money for billionaires by limiting the numbers of landing spaces! Had good logic and planning of the INVENTORS been encouraged, Air Collision Avoidance systemS wouldn't even be necessary!
Blame it on whatever you want to; do YOU like flying ONLY 1000 feet above another plane traffic controllers KNOW is flying ONLY 1000 FEET BELOW? Stating that this "could have been avoided, had new technology been installed"(and wasn't) to "detect other" planes in your vicinity doesn't seem to be a good "EXCUSE" for this to have happened! TOO MANY planes allowed to travel even a 4000 Foot distance would have caused MAYDAY to loose at least fifty percent of their Mayday disasters! OH, you're landing, fly high, outgoing planes, stay low; how ridiculous. THIS is why we logic states an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of CURE. THE QUESTION is not how many MORE planes can technology build; It's HOW MANY FEWER planes can airports "consider cutting from their $genda so that people who NEED to travel, CAN!?
This may be the worst "Mid-Air Collision" but after safely flying 747's for over twenty years, the French want to get FANCY, so they poorly design a plane that charged $9K per passenger FELL out of the sky and killed 500 passengers. (I'm sure they calculated their monetary loss as being quite high also.)
Isn't often an ocean cruiser entails running into another cruiser btw. and we've decided we'd rather be one of the 34 survivors out of their 4000 passengers who made it to the island after the "slow sinking" of the Costa Concordia!
"Flying in the Morning"
By FredGold&LyndaFaye
Stop the commercials youtube
Google offers PREMIUM 14$ per mon. They got us comin and goin.
Living in a country that claims it's a government By the people and FOR the people, does it ever occur to you that PEOPLE SHOULD have a right to NOT BE flown over ? Duh....AIR "SPACE" is now "everyone's' space?
The main "tragedy" is cramming so many planes into the sky simultaneously, and saving money for billionaires by limiting the numbers of landing spaces! Had good logic and planning of the INVENTORS been encouraged, Air Collision Avoidance systemS wouldn't even be necessary!
Blame it on whatever you want to; do YOU like flying ONLY 1000 feet above another plane traffic controllers KNOW is flying ONLY 1000 FEET BELOW? Stating that this "could have been avoided, had new technology been installed"(and wasn't) to "detect other" planes in your vicinity doesn't seem to be a good "EXCUSE" for this to have happened! TOO MANY planes allowed to travel even a 4000 Foot distance would have caused MAYDAY to loose at least fifty percent of their Mayday disasters! OH, you're landing, fly high, outgoing planes, stay low; how ridiculous. THIS is why we logic states an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of CURE. THE QUESTION is not how many MORE planes can technology build; It's HOW MANY FEWER planes can airports "consider cutting from their $genda so that people who NEED to travel, CAN!?
This may be the worst "Mid-Air Collision" but after safely flying 747's for over twenty years, the French want to get FANCY, so they poorly design a plane that charged $9K per passenger FELL out of the sky and killed 500 passengers. (I'm sure they calculated their monetary loss as being quite high also.)
Isn't often an ocean cruiser entails running into another cruiser btw. and we've decided we'd rather be one of the 34 survivors out of their 4000 passengers who made it to the island after the "slow sinking" of the Costa Concordia!
"Flying in the Morning"
By FredGold&LyndaFaye
Same actor for Mohammed Atta is used here to represent the cpatain of the saudi plane(wearing glasses).
The casting of the actors IS one of the good things accomplished by MAYDAY though.
Living in a country that claims it's a government By the people and FOR the people, does it ever occur to you that PEOPLE SHOULD have a right to NOT BE flown over ? Duh....AIR "SPACE" is now "everyone's' space? (Please, NOT ON OUR ROOF!)
The main "tragedy" is cramming so many planes into the sky simultaneously, and saving money for billionaires by limiting the numbers of landing spaces! Had good logic and planning of the INVENTORS been encouraged, Air Collision Avoidance systemS wouldn't even be necessary!
Blame it on whatever you want to; do YOU like flying ONLY 1000 feet above another plane traffic controllers KNOW is flying ONLY 1000 FEET BELOW? Stating that this "could have been avoided, had new technology been installed"(and wasn't) to "detect other" planes in your vicinity doesn't seem to be a good "EXCUSE" for this to have happened! TOO MANY planes allowed to travel even a 4000 Foot distance would have caused MAYDAY to loose at least fifty percent of their Mayday disasters! OH, you're landing, fly high, outgoing planes, stay low; how ridiculous. THIS is why we logic states an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of CURE. THE QUESTION is not how many MORE planes can technology build; It's HOW MANY FEWER planes can airports "consider cutting from their $genda so that people who NEED to travel, CAN!?
This may be the worst "Mid-Air Collision" but after safely flying 747's for over twenty years, the French want to get FANCY, so they poorly design a plane that charged $9K per passenger FELL out of the sky and killed 500 passengers. (I'm sure they calculated their monetary loss as being quite high also.)
Isn't often an ocean cruiser entails running into another cruiser btw. and we've decided we'd rather be one of the 34 survivors out of their 4000 passengers who made it to the island after the "slow sinking" of the Costa Concordia!
"Flying in the Morning"
By FredGold&LyndaFaye
Aviation still doesn't have digital verification of verbal instructions. Accidents continue to happen because of misheard/misunderstood instructions.
I think the actor playing the airtrafic controller is the one playing at slumdog millionaire ?
41:40 keep the 150 do not descend acellration!!! (sound of throttle) SAUUU DUWAY (first impact)
The sound mixing seems off. The voice-over is very quiet.
This was a TV series. Sounds fine to me
I love that they play the Indian music when introducing the Indian guy..
Thank you so much but I’ve done seen these so many times is there anything new ?
In 1996 ! The same radar than during the WW2 ! 🙄
28:36 So they were using Excel 2007 in 1996 to analyze flight data. India was already living in future in 1996.
Notice how Kazakh investigators blamed the accident on turbulence? Keep this in mind when you watch other mayday. Boeing and airbus will always find ways to blame humans. There are exceptions of course but the goal is to defend their reputations. Don't forget the apparent suicides of recent Boeing whistleblowers. Also, note the suicide of JAL maintenance manager's suicide in 1985 after maintenance was blamed for 747's crash and Japan was persuaded not to pursue suing Boeing. Mayday made an episode about that crash.
The main "tragedy" is cramming so many planes into the sky simultaneously, and saving money for billionaires by limiting the numbers of landing spaces! Had good logic and planning of the INVENTORS been encouraged, Air Collision Avoidance systemS wouldn't even be necessary!
Blame it on whatever you want to; do YOU like flying ONLY 1000 feet above another plane traffic controllers KNOW is flying ONLY 1000 FEET BELOW? Stating that this "could have been avoided, had new technology been installed"(and wasn't) to "detect other" planes in your vicinity doesn't seem to be a good "EXCUSE" for this to have happened! TOO MANY planes allowed to travel even a 4000 Foot distance would have caused MAYDAY to loose at least fifty percent of their Mayday disasters! OH, you're landing, fly high, outgoing planes, stay low; how ridiculous. THIS is why we logic states an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of CURE. THE QUESTION is not how many MORE planes can technology build; It's HOW MANY FEWER planes can airports "consider cutting from their $genda so that people who NEED to travel, CAN!?
This may be the worst "Mid-Air Collision" but after safely flying 747's for over twenty years, the French want to get FANCY, so they poorly design a plane that charged $9K per passenger FELL out of the sky and killed 500 passengers. (I'm sure they calculated their monetary loss as being quite high also.)
Isn't often an ocean cruiser entails running into another cruiser btw. and we've decided we'd rather be one of the 34 survivors out of their 4000 passengers who made it to the island after the "slow sinking" of the Costa Concordia!
"Flying in the Morning"
By FredGold&LyndaFaye
This channel is out of new content uploading old videos again and again
I’m not sad there aren’t new crashes to make new episodes about !
Ok the Saudis airlines pilots said ASTAGHFIRALLAH (oh God forgive me).(*crying) I can't imagine what a struggling situation he faced.
37:05 the flight crew of Kazakhstan airline did a bigger mistake that they reported to the ATC their altitude 15000 while they were on 16000 feet at that time ....... that's the mistake that they did and suffered from a bigger disaster
Co-pilot played a 9/11 terrorist in a different episode LOL
Is it just me or does it not make sense that planes apparently do not have radar to detect other aircraft the amount of problems that that would solve is almost insurmountable
They do now its called TCAS
Planes Should Have a System on Board That Detects Other Planes & Obstacles That are Getting Too Close to Their Plane and The AP Steers The Plane AWAY From Other Planes/Obstacles...Not Possible?...Bad Idea?
They do now, TCAS. That's traffic collision avoidance system, I think.
Why is there no TCAS system when they were on collision course?
@@IamfilipinoPHL it wasn't mandatory back then.
@@QamarulHassan-hu9hn ohhh alr
Finally an episode I haven't seen.🤣
Looks like the collision wayfarer 515 and JM21.
I like this one 🎉❤
Everyone keeps complaining about the radar, taking 2 years to install. It sounds like it was a complete overhaul, plus they still had to deal with 24-hour flights. You can't just stop the flights from coming. I doubt the installation was a simple thing. I bet it took them most of that time to install it.
Too much drama, too little investigation.
People have been making money for centuries, on the lack of preparation .
SAD is humanity in a hurry... SAD is great inventions being used for greed instead of "for the people."
The casting of the actors IS one of the good things accomplished by MAYDAY though.
Living in a country that claims it's a government By the people and FOR the people, does it ever occur to you that PEOPLE SHOULD have a right to NOT BE flown over ? Duh....AIR "SPACE" is now "everyone's' space? (Please, NOT ON OUR ROOF!)
The main "tragedy" is cramming so many planes into the sky simultaneously, and saving money for billionaires by limiting the numbers of landing spaces! Had good logic and planning of the INVENTORS been encouraged, Air Collision Avoidance systemS wouldn't even be necessary!
Blame it on whatever you want to; do YOU like flying ONLY 1000 feet above another plane traffic controllers KNOW is flying ONLY 1000 FEET BELOW? Stating that this "could have been avoided, had new technology been installed"(and wasn't) to "detect other" planes in your vicinity doesn't seem to be a good "EXCUSE" for this to have happened! TOO MANY planes allowed to travel even a 4000 Foot distance would have caused MAYDAY to loose at least fifty percent of their Mayday disasters! OH, you're landing, fly high, outgoing planes, stay low; how ridiculous. THIS is why we logic states an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of CURE. THE QUESTION is not how many MORE planes can technology build; It's HOW MANY FEWER planes can airports "consider cutting from their $genda so that people who NEED to travel, CAN!?
This may be the worst "Mid-Air Collision" but after safely flying 747's for over twenty years, the French want to get FANCY, so they poorly design a plane that charged $9K per passenger FELL out of the sky and killed 500 passengers. (I'm sure they calculated their monetary loss as being quite high also.)
Isn't often an ocean cruiser entails running into another cruiser btw. and we've decided we'd rather be one of the 34 survivors out of their 4000 passengers who made it to the island after the "slow sinking" of the Costa Concordia!
"Flying in the Morning"
By FredGold&LyndaFaye
Just an idea but to save an issue like this, would it be helpful to seperate crossing traffic by 1,000 feet PLUS 100 feet? This would save any misheard altitude and provide a greater margin of error for any mistakes. Yes no plane should be 100 feet apart but in a last case scenario it’s better than an impact. Anyone have thoughts on whether this could work?
I think that you'd need 200-300 surely, otherwise the tail of one would cut through the other. I honestly don't know how tall a plane is.
@@chrissywales6575 Oh, just cram as many planes you can in, going either way; don't give them extra landing property; make sure all of the ceo's get their profits. (ha just kidding Chrisssy)
Living in a country that claims it's a government By the people and FOR the people, does it ever occur to you that PEOPLE SHOULD have a right to NOT BE flown over ? Duh....AIR "SPACE" is now "everyone's' space?
The main "tragedy" is cramming so many planes into the sky simultaneously, and saving money for billionaires by limiting the numbers of landing spaces! Had good logic and planning of the INVENTORS been encouraged, Air Collision Avoidance systemS wouldn't even be necessary!
Blame it on whatever you want to; do YOU like flying ONLY 1000 feet above another plane traffic controllers KNOW is flying ONLY 1000 FEET BELOW? Stating that this "could have been avoided, had new technology been installed"(and wasn't) to "detect other" planes in your vicinity doesn't seem to be a good "EXCUSE" for this to have happened! TOO MANY planes allowed to travel even a 4000 Foot distance would have caused MAYDAY to loose at least fifty percent of their Mayday disasters! OH, you're landing, fly high, outgoing planes, stay low; how ridiculous. THIS is why we logic states an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of CURE. THE QUESTION is not how many MORE planes can technology build; It's HOW MANY FEWER planes can airports "consider cutting from their $genda so that people who NEED to travel, CAN!?
This may be the worst "Mid-Air Collision" but after safely flying 747's for over twenty years, the French want to get FANCY, so they poorly design a plane that charged $9K per passenger FELL out of the sky and killed 500 passengers. (I'm sure they calculated their monetary loss as being quite high also.)
Isn't often an ocean cruiser entails running into another cruiser btw. and we've decided we'd rather be one of the 34 survivors out of their 4000 passengers who made it to the island after the "slow sinking" of the Costa Concordia!
"Flying in the Morning"
By FredGold&LyndaFaye
I feel bad😢
Try a seven day cruise and bring a floatie with you.
The casting of the actors IS one of the good things accomplished by MAYDAY though.
Living in a country that claims it's a government By the people and FOR the people, does it ever occur to you that PEOPLE SHOULD have a right to NOT BE flown over ? Duh....AIR "SPACE" is now "everyone's' space? (Please, NOT ON OUR ROOF!)
The main "tragedy" is cramming so many planes into the sky simultaneously, and saving money for billionaires by limiting the numbers of landing spaces! Had good logic and planning of the INVENTORS been encouraged, Air Collision Avoidance systemS wouldn't even be necessary!
Blame it on whatever you want to; do YOU like flying ONLY 1000 feet above another plane traffic controllers KNOW is flying ONLY 1000 FEET BELOW? Stating that this "could have been avoided, had new technology been installed"(and wasn't) to "detect other" planes in your vicinity doesn't seem to be a good "EXCUSE" for this to have happened! TOO MANY planes allowed to travel even a 4000 Foot distance would have caused MAYDAY to loose at least fifty percent of their Mayday disasters! OH, you're landing, fly high, outgoing planes, stay low; how ridiculous. THIS is why we logic states an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of CURE. THE QUESTION is not how many MORE planes can technology build; It's HOW MANY FEWER planes can airports "consider cutting from their $genda so that people who NEED to travel, CAN!?
This may be the worst "Mid-Air Collision" but after safely flying 747's for over twenty years, the French want to get FANCY, so they poorly design a plane that charged $9K per passenger FELL out of the sky and killed 500 passengers. (I'm sure they calculated their monetary loss as being quite high also.)
Isn't often an ocean cruiser entails running into another cruiser btw. and we've decided we'd rather be one of the 34 survivors out of their 4000 passengers who made it to the island after the "slow sinking" of the Costa Concordia!
"Flying in the Morning"
By FredGold&LyndaFaye
I'm not planning to become a pilot but I like traveling by airplane.And unexpectedy, I got interested in this kind of shows. Maybe, It's just out of curiousity. I can even hear the pilots praying before they died. What a sad picture. All of them died.😢
I gather TCAS was not working at the time.
Plz do national 102
Guys the unreadable is "get to 150 because saudi is on 140"
8:18 Captain Khalid Al-Shubaily saw something left side of his cockpit window. The plane is about to collision the Saudi 747
Beaurucracy at its peak. They have everything but did not install it timely.
LOGIC AND COMMON SENSE don't play a part in the BUSINESS of flying now, do they?
The casting of the actors IS one of the good things accomplished by MAYDAY though.
Living in a country that claims it's a government By the people and FOR the people, does it ever occur to you that PEOPLE SHOULD have a right to NOT BE flown over ? Duh....AIR "SPACE" is now "everyone's' space? (Please, NOT ON OUR ROOF!)
The main "tragedy" is cramming so many planes into the sky simultaneously, and saving money for billionaires by limiting the numbers of landing spaces! Had good logic and planning of the INVENTORS been encouraged, Air Collision Avoidance systemS wouldn't even be necessary!
Blame it on whatever you want to; do YOU like flying ONLY 1000 feet above another plane traffic controllers KNOW is flying ONLY 1000 FEET BELOW? Stating that this "could have been avoided, had new technology been installed"(and wasn't) to "detect other" planes in your vicinity doesn't seem to be a good "EXCUSE" for this to have happened! TOO MANY planes allowed to travel even a 4000 Foot distance would have caused MAYDAY to loose at least fifty percent of their Mayday disasters! OH, you're landing, fly high, outgoing planes, stay low; how ridiculous. THIS is why we logic states an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of CURE. THE QUESTION is not how many MORE planes can technology build; It's HOW MANY FEWER planes can airports "consider cutting from their $genda so that people who NEED to travel, CAN!?
This may be the worst "Mid-Air Collision" but after safely flying 747's for over twenty years, the French want to get FANCY, so they poorly design a plane that charged $9K per passenger FELL out of the sky and killed 500 passengers. (I'm sure they calculated their monetary loss as being quite high also.)
Isn't often an ocean cruiser entails running into another cruiser btw. and we've decided we'd rather be one of the 34 survivors out of their 4000 passengers who made it to the island after the "slow sinking" of the Costa Concordia!
"Flying in the Morning"
By FredGold&LyndaFaye
I love these videos, but it's not really necessary to do all that rapid flashing of pictures. It adds nothing and is useless to the story.
The mid-air collision CVR 41:41
Repost
With a crowded as the skies are it’s probably only a matter of when this will happen again.
More repeats...... this episode has been uploaded like 15 times already.
It's like Mayday youtube channel is trying very hard to bring endless TV reruns into the internet age.
It must be very frustrating to have no ability to choose another video when you realize you're watching a re-run.
Im assuming they are working on new episodes
@@kingdomofcybercityanimations They don't. To this date they aired 270 episodes on TV. They so far released only 20 on this channel, the rest are repeats. They clearly own the license so there's no reason not to make others available.
@@harryshuman9637so many people don't realize this is an old TV series 😂 I've seen soany comments on so many of these videos thinking a TH-camr is responsible
Was that terrible tragedy preventable?
Absolutely, a lack of following directions and misunderstanding led to the accident.
My opinion? The miscommunication might have been averted if the Kazhak crew had better CRM, or the ATC controller requested a reconfirmation of altitude or a reduction in airspeed to reduce the overtake, or the aircraft involved had been equipped with TCAS (which I am pretty sure was widely in use in 1996). Or even at the end, if the Kazhak pilot had DESCENDED instead of accelerating and climbing.
Ultimately, it was entirely avoidable if the installation of a secondary radar system hadn't been slow walked instead of left sitting around unpacked. That system would have displayed altitude and heading for all contacts and the ATC controller would have seen the altitude encroachment in plenty of time to warn off both aircraft.
Just my opinion, based on what little I've read and what I have seen here.
Yes, they almost always are.
@@MukisaSS The casting of the actors IS one of the good things accomplished by MAYDAY though.
Living in a country that claims it's a government By the people and FOR the people, does it ever occur to you that PEOPLE SHOULD have a right to NOT BE flown over ? Duh....AIR "SPACE" is now "everyone's' space? (Please, NOT ON OUR ROOF!)
The main "tragedy" is cramming so many planes into the sky simultaneously, and saving money for billionaires by limiting the numbers of landing spaces! Had good logic and planning of the INVENTORS been encouraged, Air Collision Avoidance systemS wouldn't even be necessary!
Blame it on whatever you want to; do YOU like flying ONLY 1000 feet above another plane traffic controllers KNOW is flying ONLY 1000 FEET BELOW? Stating that this "could have been avoided, had new technology been installed"(and wasn't) to "detect other" planes in your vicinity doesn't seem to be a good "EXCUSE" for this to have happened! TOO MANY planes allowed to travel even a 4000 Foot distance would have caused MAYDAY to loose at least fifty percent of their Mayday disasters! OH, you're landing, fly high, outgoing planes, stay low; how ridiculous. THIS is why we logic states an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of CURE. THE QUESTION is not how many MORE planes can technology build; It's HOW MANY FEWER planes can airports "consider cutting from their $genda so that people who NEED to travel, CAN!?
This may be the worst "Mid-Air Collision" but after safely flying 747's for over twenty years, the French want to get FANCY, so they poorly design a plane that charged $9K per passenger FELL out of the sky and killed 500 passengers. (I'm sure they calculated their monetary loss as being quite high also.)
Isn't often an ocean cruiser entails running into another cruiser btw. and we've decided we'd rather be one of the 34 survivors out of their 4000 passengers who made it to the island after the "slow sinking" of the Costa Concordia!
"Flying in the Morning"
By FredGold&LyndaFaye
Thts why the pilots should not take it personal and listen to one another and co ordinate.
I have a feeling that ATC radar doesn’t look anything like what’s being portrayed here.
My guess is that each target dot has an indicated callsign.
To just have a bunch of dots on a screen would make ATC job impossible to manage.
Yea probably. But that's too much $ in vfx. We get the point overall. This looks like sonar
@@stubstunner I suspect it's less about the $ and more to indicate the relative primitiveness of the radar used in ATC here.
Looks like Archie Bunker in the thumbnail.
Cool it with the dreadful sound effects
TV in the early 2000s for ya 😂
that's why u dj t use old Russian military aircraft as refurbished passagers planes...
they r far behind in technology as well
Is real?
Sad
SAD is humanity in a hurry... SAD is great inventions being used for greed instead of "for the people."
The casting of the actors IS one of the good things accomplished by MAYDAY though.
Living in a country that claims it's a government By the people and FOR the people, does it ever occur to you that PEOPLE SHOULD have a right to NOT BE flown over ? Duh....AIR "SPACE" is now "everyone's' space? (Please, NOT ON OUR ROOF!)
The main "tragedy" is cramming so many planes into the sky simultaneously, and saving money for billionaires by limiting the numbers of landing spaces! Had good logic and planning of the INVENTORS been encouraged, Air Collision Avoidance systemS wouldn't even be necessary!
Blame it on whatever you want to; do YOU like flying ONLY 1000 feet above another plane traffic controllers KNOW is flying ONLY 1000 FEET BELOW? Stating that this "could have been avoided, had new technology been installed"(and wasn't) to "detect other" planes in your vicinity doesn't seem to be a good "EXCUSE" for this to have happened! TOO MANY planes allowed to travel even a 4000 Foot distance would have caused MAYDAY to loose at least fifty percent of their Mayday disasters! OH, you're landing, fly high, outgoing planes, stay low; how ridiculous. THIS is why we logic states an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of CURE. THE QUESTION is not how many MORE planes can technology build; It's HOW MANY FEWER planes can airports "consider cutting from their $genda so that people who NEED to travel, CAN!?
This may be the worst "Mid-Air Collision" but after safely flying 747's for over twenty years, the French want to get FANCY, so they poorly design a plane that charged $9K per passenger FELL out of the sky and killed 500 passengers. (I'm sure they calculated their monetary loss as being quite high also.)
Isn't often an ocean cruiser entails running into another cruiser btw. and we've decided we'd rather be one of the 34 survivors out of their 4000 passengers who made it to the island after the "slow sinking" of the Costa Concordia!
"Flying in the Morning"
By FredGold&LyndaFaye
IL76 Is cargo not passenger aircraft
They do not have TCAS???
I think no because
The mid air collision was on 1996
Technically, TCAS existed, but it wasn't in common usage yet.
@@laluapaakulifetiremelonplaygroI feel the kazan pilots messed up big time here
@@AnetaMihaylova-d6f I feel their "choices" were slim.
SAD is humanity in a hurry... SAD is great inventions being used for greed instead of "for the people."
The casting of the actors IS one of the good things accomplished by MAYDAY though.
Living in a country that claims it's a government By the people and FOR the people, does it ever occur to you that PEOPLE SHOULD have a right to NOT BE flown over ? Duh....AIR "SPACE" is now "everyone's' space? (Please, NOT ON OUR ROOF!)
The main "tragedy" is cramming so many planes into the sky simultaneously, and saving money for billionaires by limiting the numbers of landing spaces! Had good logic and planning of the INVENTORS been encouraged, Air Collision Avoidance systemS wouldn't even be necessary!
Blame it on whatever you want to; do YOU like flying ONLY 1000 feet above another plane traffic controllers KNOW is flying ONLY 1000 FEET BELOW? Stating that this "could have been avoided, had new technology been installed"(and wasn't) to "detect other" planes in your vicinity doesn't seem to be a good "EXCUSE" for this to have happened! TOO MANY planes allowed to travel even a 4000 Foot distance would have caused MAYDAY to loose at least fifty percent of their Mayday disasters! OH, you're landing, fly high, outgoing planes, stay low; how ridiculous. THIS is why we logic states an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of CURE. THE QUESTION is not how many MORE planes can technology build; It's HOW MANY FEWER planes can airports "consider cutting from their $genda so that people who NEED to travel, CAN!?
This may be the worst "Mid-Air Collision" but after safely flying 747's for over twenty years, the French want to get FANCY, so they poorly design a plane that charged $9K per passenger FELL out of the sky and killed 500 passengers. (I'm sure they calculated their monetary loss as being quite high also.)
Isn't often an ocean cruiser entails running into another cruiser btw. and we've decided we'd rather be one of the 34 survivors out of their 4000 passengers who made it to the island after the "slow sinking" of the Costa Concordia!
"Flying in the Morning"
By FredGold&LyndaFaye
25:18 mid-air collision animation