Tim, the only people who don’t have problems or compilations are those who do nothing. Never change, your positive attitude and can do spirit. You are an inspiration to so many. Just look at the comments to your videos. All doers willing to try. God bless
My sister had a geothermal system installed at her new home about 8 years ago. She has 37 acres in the mountains so she had them dig a pond and her geothermal piping is in the bottom of the pond. She now has a beautiful pond with frogs, fish, ducks, geese, turtles and deer coming in to drink and even wade in the water.
More than the workers, equipment, and discussion, I'm impressed with your patience! I'm not so sure I wouldn't be a little more frustrated. It's not always easy to give up control. So glad we found your channel!
well, we keep discussing bailing out on the Geothermal with the increasing costs...but sometimes I feel that once a decision is made, you stay the course. I still think this is the right decision...but the 'payoff period' is certainly moving further into the future with each challenge we encounter.
There`s a hook in everything we humans do ! No worries the dirt will be just a memory in under a year. Tim, never change, your positive attitude and can do spirit. You are an inspiration to so man. God bless you all
Sorry to see the road blocks that keep getting in your way. But I’m so impressed and inspired by your calm and accepting attitude when things go wrong. You are a man of good character.
most time when i trench for a customer like you a i throw the black dirt to one side, and rest to other side, then when your done back-filling the crap dirt you can fine grade the black ground on top.
Yeah not ragging on the job or anybody. I just always found it easier to leave some topsoil separated to slick the top of backfilled trench back off to reseed.
Disturbed clay sucks as a back fill, but you are right. If you must, buy it deep. I would have liked to seen a few trailers of sand, then spread the crap out back somewhere.
Nice! That's the way they did our loop. Didn't have any problem with it collapsing or filling up with water. You must have a high water table. It sure tears the heck out of the yard!
Sorry about the struggles. For me it is about seeing a real backhoe operator work. I have so much to learn. Thanks for sharing your journeys. Warts and all. God bless and your family this coming New Year
Tractor Time with Tim, I learned a backhoe can humble you instantly. I recently found “Dave knows how.” He has one video where he does a dry run on backhoe operation. It is what I will be practicing when the weather breaks.
I'm really looking forward to more on this project. I think I could see myself going geothermal when my system needs replaced again. It was just replaced in 2017 so I have a long while, but this will give me a good idea of what it entails.
Knowing several people who have went geothermal, my parents one of them, the only ones to opt out of vertical wells are the ones with the equipment to do the digging themselves. One of the parents neighbors who went geothermal is a research guru, he spent countless hours on the subject and found that unhappy geothermal owners had two things in common, horizontal loops or vertical loops just on the edge of sufficient. His installer said three loops would be ok so he went four, my parents went three wells but had them go an extra 125ft down at each well. Incredible temperature stability. My parents system has yet to bring on the backup heat in the several years they have been geothermal and they don't spare the heat in the winter.
The wet soil will help maintaining thermal bond with pipes, making system more efficient. Also helps keeping the soil from shrinking away from pipes in dry years. We have vertical loops due to rock. Good luck, enjoy the videos.
We put our ground loops in with a horizontal drilling machine since we were on a wooded lot. After they ran the 4 loops under the woods they turned the machine around and ran the hook up lines into the crawl space. We sat on about 30 feet of clay which seemed to be good for heat transfer. The wetness should also help with that. The more contact with the loops the better.
Thank You for your videos. Your piece from scripture really touched me this morning. My brother is in hospital, facing a leg amputation because of diabetes. This just confirmed again that God is always there for us. We sometimes forget that. We take on the world: ME, MYSELF AND I, instead of, FATHER, SON and HOLY SPIRIT. Just a thought. You guys are amazing. God Bless.
Bummer that you could not lay the pipe in trench, but that ground water will make your geothermal system even more efficient than it would be in dry ground.
We have a geothermal system in our house, you just set the temp and you dont have to worry about anything, and our system even tough its a few years old still is realy electicity efficent.
More up's and downs of life. I have to have my house re piped starting on January 2nd. A little costly and messy but it will be done more than likely no more leaks which comes from the attic. Good luck on your project!
They say bad things come in 3's . So with the furnace issues, hot water issues and now the soil issues you should be good for awhile. Here's hoping anyways. Bring on 2019 !!!!! “Here's to a bright New Year and a fond farewell to the old; here's to the things that are yet to come, and to the memories that we hold.”
Ummmm the simple solution to keep going would be to widen the trench. Put your spoils back farther and V it out. Same as in digging through sand. Yard would be more of a mess but does that matter at this point ? Yes I have done this more than once and with ditches a whole lot deeper then this. Wrong pipe ??? We are all learning as we go unless you bring in a pro !
One thing to mention when they install inside in regards to the gluco feed please ensure they install a at least a 2 litre top up feed and a easy drain loop (similar to a tankless heater drain) a few installs I have been to from the early days didn’t include these and the system has to be drained every 5 (to stop corrosion) and topped up usually due to evaporation on a yearly basis, having the 1-2 litre top up tank allows easy to see a marked high or low point , some systems also have an explanation tank for summer, either way add the easy drain top up loop for ease of maintenance
To bad you didn't get to finish, delays are never any fun. This would have been a good time to phone a friend to video the boring machine. They do one heck of a job and no mess like the excavator. Hopefully there will be some video of the connections. Happy New Year Tim, Christie and Katriel.
You do know you have a HVAC surplus dealer right in your backyard. I have been there a few times but I think it was under a different ownership back then, some decent prices though. I think I would have went with the cheapest quickest install to get a conventional furnace going and then worry about the geothermal down the road a bit.
i do agree, a good HVAC person can get a new heat exchanger to work in most any furnace...and in regards to geothermal, i always thought the cooling lines needed to be deep and the heat lines close to the surface; and might even have some above ground solar collectors...whatever ths case this has been informative vid. is this the ole johnny OR THE new johnny?
I would never mess with replacing just the heat exchanger only and don't know anyone who would unless it was a factory replacement direct swap out, way to much liability. Close to 20 years ago I did a one day swap out of furnace, A coil, and plenum in about 12 hours at my house with no help and in the dead of winter. Replacing a nearly 30 year old furnace with a 94 plus efficient one made a huge change on the power bill, as in pay back in less than two heating seasons.
Sorry about the set back, Murphy's Law. Time is money so this will cost a little extra thats all. Do it right big guy and you will be happy and should you ever leave, you will have left it better than you found it. All the best to TTWT Team in the new year. Just watched the vid of your new tractor, got me looking at the green again.
I have geo thermal. Just put over 1k into it for repairs. Now I think we have a leak in loops. I have heard lots of people around me are doing away from them. Now they have heat pumps that run to around 0 degrees Fahrenheit. I have been told geo runs lots of problems in 15 years. In 8 years I will replace mine with a heat pump and gas. 15k compared to 9k for gas and heat pump. They are good units, but friends of mine that have them also have installed wood burners to help cut heating cost. They are nice when they work, But they cost a ton to fix.
One plus to the moist/ wet soil condition is that it will help transfer heat to and from your loops.. which will increase its efficiency. . That's the same thing I felt when my geo loops were buried and there was water in the bottom of the trench. . You will be happy with your choice once it's up and running and see the overall utility costs. PS.. I heat to 71 and cool to 72, and dont open windows. .. cost me less then $50 (on average) a month or $600 for the year for 1700 sq ft house
Pretty cool Tim, I'm sure this is probably your forever home so make it how you want it. I'll be more than happy to keep watching, hitting that like button so it will help off set to cost :) . Here's to an awesome New Year, and more cool Videos.
I would have thrown the dirt back further, 3 ft away minimum, a trench box would a pain with the curving of the trench, he could have stepped it back but that would take longer, that's how they do it on pipeline work
Should take each loop set of lines into the house, if a loop fails you can isolate it. I went with a pump and dump geo system. Best efficiency year round.
I have geothermal...in whats called an open well system...you don't have to run a line all over your property...its ideally installed when you have your well put in
When I put my sewer in here in 07 we had to work fast do to trench collapse my water level in the southeast corner of my yard in drought conditions is only 18" but the weird part is it never floods. There is a well in The neighbor's yard that gets a thin layer of ice on top of the water in the winter. And it is never empty nor can you pump it dry even with a fire truck. I have a well on the same water vane but mine is on a small hill and is about 5' down. I save on the water bill by using it to water the garden and lawn.
seems like just making a v ditch would do the trick.. you don't need to worry about it caving in if its a sloped sidewall so just cutting the top wider would do it.. or get taller people to work the trench... lol
That trench could have been completed. No evidence of trying to step the sides or back slope the walls. Could have also changed the design and went to multiple trenches in the same high ground location.
With all that ground water I would be concerned about the efficiency of the septic system as well. Guess time will tell. Hopefully you will have heat soon. Happy New Year!
Yes. Same inspection company that inspected house inspected the septic. The guy refused to use the 'dye' to inspect the septic. Said it wasn't necessary. He poked around with a rod for a couple of hours. Never heard from him again. No written report, etc.
It's not possible to place the loop under the "pond"? As I understand it beneath a pond is not a bad option, perhaps the pond is not deep enough or large enough? Thanks for a great video!
@@TractorTimewithTim My brother in law has his loop put in a pond. Its supposed to be the most efficient method. Perhaps its too far away from your house to be cost effective. Instead of a loop, its actually just a coil type box that you set in the bottom of the lake.
I don’t know anything about geothermal systems, but just wondering about the pond? Could the pipes be run to the pond and looped around the bottom and back to the house. Our neighbour’s pond has one corner where springs supply the pond and on the coldest day of winter it never freezes. As a kid skating on that pond we knew never to go over to that corner. Like I said I don’t know nothing about these systems. Please excuse my ignorance on this. :-)
Only thing is with the geo-thermo system the box would be in the way to put the lines for the loop against the trench walls the lines have to be so far apart and no air pockets during full in or it will not be very efficient to heat and cool. I use to install these systems and I also saw 1 problem here too. When refilling the trench we use to use the fine particles of dirt from a trencher (Ditchwitch) to be sure of minimum air pockets. But even a trencher would not work here. It is just to wet.
Yes. With so much water in the ground, I don’t think much worry about how one would refill the trench. Could not ask for more efficiency than sitting below the water table line.
Sorry that you didn't have any heat there. Has it been warmer for you lately? I just had high 40s for a couple days last week and more to come this week and I live significantly further north of you. You guys don't need Murphy hanging around any more. Hopefully the new year will be different. At any rate, hope you have a safe and Happy New Year. May God bless you.
Hey TTWT family... maybe some sunny weekend you's could have a compact tractor get together, do some work to help ya's out, and we'll cook cheese burgers on the grills... You have helped us so much with showing them video's, it would be a great return for some of us to help you and Kristy.
Why did u not just dig a safe trench? Don’t know how its in ur country but in Norway we are not allowed to dig deeper vertical more then a little over 1 feet. If we need to dig deeper we have to dig a 45* angel on the slops down to the trench for making it safe to go down in.
What would be the point of that? The percolation rate only tests how fast the soil absorbs water. The real problem was the water table level under the current conditions. When I lived in the Midwest, we could have the water table level at anywhere from 2-feet to 8-feet depending upon the time of year, how much precipitation had occurred, and soil frost level.
Tim you could done with Ditching Bucket to Backfill see case quick release bucket there boring machine down road from us as firm building flood barrier
Hi Tim, I'm a big fan of your video. I do not miss any one that you are posting since the first one. I have also a JD 1025r that I just replaced by a brand new 2018 3033r with cab and I'm planing to start doing a small contract. So, I have a question for you; Do you have an other job or you are doing only contract with your 3 machines? Thanks for taking time to answer me. Sorry for my English, I'm francophone from Québec, Canada
I've got a recommendation for a future video that might be useful for new or upcoming excavator operators.. it goes something like this: Top 10 new excavator operator tips, or something like that. As always, keep up the good work and quality of your videos!
I’m wondering if it is more depressing that you have to wait longer for heat, or that you won’t have as much fixing to do in the yard? I was thinking that big trench would make lots of good equipment hours for Tim! That’s what I would want haha
Keep that phone line going to the shop. I had to have one put in as cell phones will not work in my shop, lucky if you get one bar. So I had a landline put in so customers could contact me. Funny my cell phone would ring but I would have to run outside with it to talk and no its not just my service, no one's phone works in here. And trust me its no fun running outside in the cold and rain just to talk on the phone.
In our shop we use a cell phone booster. Before we installed it we would miss calls or loose them in parts of the shop. Now with the booster on we have perfect cell service.
@@bernarrcoletta7419 This too is true. I am forced to use AT&T but now I do have internet in the front office and the shop. One of the very best things I ever did in the shop was to put a computer back there. No more stopping to run up to the office to check e-mail or look up parts or order parts, looking up things I have never worked on before for tips and how-tos.
If there lucky the phone line is a cat5e cable and they can make it into an ethernet and have internet in the shop so they could have decent live streams there.
A wheel or chain trencher that lays the pipe as it digs and backfills should work better. Often used for laying power cable or drain pipe. Laying your pipes shouldn't be a problem. Even a cable plow on a big tractor can lay the pipe.
@@TractorTimewithTim Another way of laying pipe is to dig a wide trench and lay the pipe in big overlapping circles. It takes more digging but the trench doesn't need to be as long. Just make sure to do it in a area without much shade.
Tim, the only people who don’t have problems or compilations are those who do nothing. Never change, your positive attitude and can do spirit. You are an inspiration to so many. Just look at the comments to your videos. All doers willing to try. God bless
Thanks for the note of encouragement! We appreciate your support!
My sister had a geothermal system installed at her new home about 8 years ago. She has 37 acres in the mountains so she had them dig a pond and her geothermal piping is in the bottom of the pond. She now has a beautiful pond with frogs, fish, ducks, geese, turtles and deer coming in to drink and even wade in the water.
More than the workers, equipment, and discussion, I'm impressed with your patience! I'm not so sure I wouldn't be a little more frustrated. It's not always easy to give up control. So glad we found your channel!
well, we keep discussing bailing out on the Geothermal with the increasing costs...but sometimes I feel that once a decision is made, you stay the course.
I still think this is the right decision...but the 'payoff period' is certainly moving further into the future with each challenge we encounter.
Who knows. The gentleman above says he pays $50/month for heating/cooling winter and summer. If we can do that, we'll be in great shape!
There`s a hook in everything we humans do ! No worries the dirt will be just a memory in under a year. Tim, never change, your positive attitude and can do spirit. You are an inspiration to so man. God bless you all
Sorry to see the road blocks that keep getting in your way. But I’m so impressed and inspired by your calm and accepting attitude when things go wrong. You are a man of good character.
wow that is neat to see and hear the different methods used for geothermal heat and cooling thanks for showing us the video
most time when i trench for a customer like you a i throw the black dirt to one side, and rest to other side, then when your done back-filling the crap dirt you can fine grade the black ground on top.
Yea, in this case, even the subsoil looks great to me!
Lol, i'm glad someone noticed that besides me. Topsoil on one side, fill on other.
i agrree , but other than that good job :)
Yeah not ragging on the job or anybody. I just always found it easier to leave some topsoil separated to slick the top of backfilled trench back off to reseed.
Disturbed clay sucks as a back fill, but you are right. If you must, buy it deep. I would have liked to seen a few trailers of sand, then spread the crap out back somewhere.
Nice! That's the way they did our loop. Didn't have any problem with it collapsing or filling up with water. You must have a high water table. It sure tears the heck out of the yard!
always nice to watch a true professional at work.
Sorry about the struggles. For me it is about seeing a real backhoe operator work. I have so much to learn. Thanks for sharing your journeys. Warts and all. God bless and your family this coming New Year
Hey, I think I should take offense!
Just kidding. Yes, it was great to see an expert. Even on a machine he had never used before...very smooth!
Tractor Time with Tim, I learned a backhoe can humble you instantly. I recently found “Dave knows how.” He has one video where he does a dry run on backhoe operation. It is what I will be practicing when the weather breaks.
Dave is a subscriber and great friend of this channel. Glad you found him!
Me too. Very detailed, which rarely do. And I now have a source for those specifics.
I'm really looking forward to more on this project. I think I could see myself going geothermal when my system needs replaced again. It was just replaced in 2017 so I have a long while, but this will give me a good idea of what it entails.
A door closes and another opens, after it's over you will be done and saving in the future. Can't wait for the next video!
Knowing several people who have went geothermal, my parents one of them, the only ones to opt out of vertical wells are the ones with the equipment to do the digging themselves. One of the parents neighbors who went geothermal is a research guru, he spent countless hours on the subject and found that unhappy geothermal owners had two things in common, horizontal loops or vertical loops just on the edge of sufficient. His installer said three loops would be ok so he went four, my parents went three wells but had them go an extra 125ft down at each well. Incredible temperature stability. My parents system has yet to bring on the backup heat in the several years they have been geothermal and they don't spare the heat in the winter.
The wet soil will help maintaining thermal bond with pipes, making system more efficient. Also helps keeping the soil from shrinking away from pipes in dry years. We have vertical loops due to rock. Good luck, enjoy the videos.
We put our ground loops in with a horizontal drilling machine since we were on a wooded lot. After they ran the 4 loops under the woods they turned the machine around and ran the hook up lines into the crawl space. We sat on about 30 feet of clay which seemed to be good for heat transfer. The wetness should also help with that. The more contact with the loops the better.
Sorry for all the problems you are having. Made some great video though. I know you will be glad when it is all completed.
Glad it all worked out eventually, Tim!
Hey Josh. Still no furnace here :-) Tomorrow is the day!
@@TractorTimewithTim Ooops - sounds like I need to watch the latest vid! ;)
Thank You for your videos. Your piece from scripture really touched me this morning. My brother is in hospital, facing a leg amputation because of diabetes. This just confirmed again that God is always there for us. We sometimes forget that. We take on the world: ME, MYSELF AND I, instead of, FATHER, SON and HOLY SPIRIT. Just a thought. You guys are amazing. God Bless.
I’m sorry to hear about your brother, Walter.
Sorry for the problem with your trench Tim, good you found a better solution geothermal loop. Happy new year from Norway !
Two good operators who know what each other are doing work good together. Also. Happy new year
Yep, and we had never met until that day.
We have a geothermal and love it, you guys will too.
I noticed that these pro's don't curl the bucket completely closed either. Saving time.
Good point.
Great video. The best part is ending with a biblical verse! Thanks and GOD Bless you and your family!
Bummer that you could not lay the pipe in trench, but that ground water will make your geothermal system even more efficient than it would be in dry ground.
We have a geothermal system in our house, you just set the temp and you dont have to worry about anything, and our system even tough its a few years old still is realy electicity efficent.
More up's and downs of life. I have to have my house re piped starting on January 2nd. A little costly and messy but it will be done more than likely no more leaks which comes from the attic. Good luck on your project!
They say bad things come in 3's . So with the furnace issues, hot water issues and now the soil issues you should be good for awhile. Here's hoping anyways. Bring on 2019 !!!!!
“Here's to a bright New Year and a fond farewell to the old; here's to the things that are yet to come, and to the memories that we hold.”
Ummmm the simple solution to keep going would be to widen the trench. Put your spoils back farther and V it out. Same as in digging through sand. Yard would be more of a mess but does that matter at this point ? Yes I have done this more than once and with ditches a whole lot deeper then this. Wrong pipe ??? We are all learning as we go unless you bring in a pro !
Dang, that's a bummer. Tim seems like things can only get better.
One thing to mention when they install inside in regards to the gluco feed please ensure they install a at least a 2 litre top up feed and a easy drain loop (similar to a tankless heater drain) a few installs I have been to from the early days didn’t include these and the system has to be drained every 5 (to stop corrosion) and topped up usually due to evaporation on a yearly basis, having the 1-2 litre top up tank allows easy to see a marked high or low point , some systems also have an explanation tank for summer, either way add the easy drain top up loop for ease of maintenance
Soil looks amazing!
look like your new heat take a long time but do'nt know try it god bless you &all
To bad you didn't get to finish, delays are never any fun. This would have been a good time to phone a friend to video the boring machine. They do one heck of a job and no mess like the excavator. Hopefully there will be some video of the connections. Happy New Year Tim, Christie and Katriel.
You do know you have a HVAC surplus dealer right in your backyard. I have been there a few times but I think it was under a different ownership back then, some decent prices though. I think I would have went with the cheapest quickest install to get a conventional furnace going and then worry about the geothermal down the road a bit.
i do agree, a good HVAC person can get a new heat exchanger to work in most any furnace...and in regards to geothermal, i always thought the cooling lines needed to be deep and the heat lines close to the surface; and might even have some above ground solar collectors...whatever ths case this has been informative vid. is this the ole johnny OR THE new johnny?
I would never mess with replacing just the heat exchanger only and don't know anyone who would unless it was a factory replacement direct swap out, way to much liability. Close to 20 years ago I did a one day swap out of furnace, A coil, and plenum in about 12 hours at my house with no help and in the dead of winter. Replacing a nearly 30 year old furnace with a 94 plus efficient one made a huge change on the power bill, as in pay back in less than two heating seasons.
Hope you have a Generator back up to keep the 4 ton pump running. Is this hooked into existing baseboard heat?
We didn't have baseboard heat. Forced air furnace.
Sorry about the set back, Murphy's Law. Time is money so this will cost a little extra thats all. Do it right big guy and you will be happy and should you ever leave, you will have left it better than you found it. All the best to TTWT Team in the new year. Just watched the vid of your new tractor, got me looking at the green again.
again GOOD job on your part Tim. you will like how the new backhoe comes off and on.
I have geo thermal. Just put over 1k into it for repairs. Now I think we have a leak in loops. I have heard lots of people around me are doing away from them. Now they have heat pumps that run to around 0 degrees Fahrenheit. I have been told geo runs lots of problems in 15 years. In 8 years I will replace mine with a heat pump and gas. 15k compared to 9k for gas and heat pump. They are good units, but friends of mine that have them also have installed wood burners to help cut heating cost. They are nice when they work, But they cost a ton to fix.
Dewater and rent a trench box.
One plus to the moist/ wet soil condition is that it will help transfer heat to and from your loops.. which will increase its efficiency.
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That's the same thing I felt when my geo loops were buried and there was water in the bottom of the trench.
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You will be happy with your choice once it's up and running and see the overall utility costs.
PS.. I heat to 71 and cool to 72, and dont open windows.
.. cost me less then $50 (on average) a month or $600 for the year for 1700 sq ft house
Wow. I'm looking forward to that!
Thank you for the video Tim..
Pretty cool Tim, I'm sure this is probably your forever home so make it how you want it. I'll be more than happy to keep watching, hitting that like button so it will help off set to cost :) . Here's to an awesome New Year, and more cool Videos.
Thanks very much for watching!
We treat every home like it is our 'forever home'. I know no other way to do it.
Bummer about the heat but on the plus side you got to play in the dirt.
Good stuff enjoyed that, hope y’all catch a break some where!!!
Thanks Mike!
I would have thrown the dirt back further, 3 ft away minimum, a trench box would a pain with the curving of the trench, he could have stepped it back but that would take longer, that's how they do it on pipeline work
Tim sorry it didn't work the first time for you guys it will get done God Bless
Don't know about the water problems till you dig the trench
The only real way to know what is there is dig. Safety first
Should take each loop set of lines into the house, if a loop fails you can isolate it. I went with a pump and dump geo system. Best efficiency year round.
Bummer about the furnace delay. Great top soil though. Growing grass this spring should give you and Johnny something to do❗👍🙂
Great job
This is turning into a moneypit...hope everything comes out ok in last vlog of this project..your sure showing other people what to avoid
I have geothermal...in whats called an open well system...you don't have to run a line all over your property...its ideally installed when you have your well put in
Love the 23 Psalm. Have been in the valley and God got me out of it. He has been so good to me and my family. God bless you'll.
Just wanted to tell you that you should feel honored versed this was the last youtube for my for the year of 2018
When I put my sewer in here in 07 we had to work fast do to trench collapse my water level in the southeast corner of my yard in drought conditions is only 18" but the weird part is it never floods. There is a well in The neighbor's yard that gets a thin layer of ice on top of the water in the winter. And it is never empty nor can you pump it dry even with a fire truck. I have a well on the same water vane but mine is on a small hill and is about 5' down. I save on the water bill by using it to water the garden and lawn.
seems like just making a v ditch would do the trick.. you don't need to worry about it caving in if its a sloped sidewall so just cutting the top wider would do it.. or get taller people to work the trench... lol
Perhaps, but that is totally impractical for 500'. 10' wide at the top? Wow.
That trench could have been completed. No evidence of trying to step the sides or back slope the walls.
Could have also changed the design and went to multiple trenches in the same high ground location.
Rogue Excavating your right if that was me I would have dug it out a lot wider at the top
Rogue Excavating- exactly, just bench the trench..contractors I work with would have been there and out.
That is why you have the pond.
Yes we have had alot of rain, just had a very narrow window to spread our manure today.
Ugh. Glad I wasn't there!
@@TractorTimewithTim next time i'll make sure you get a formal invitation!!!!!
With all that ground water I would be concerned about the efficiency of the septic system as well. Guess time will tell. Hopefully you will have heat soon. Happy New Year!
Yes. Same inspection company that inspected house inspected the septic. The guy refused to use the 'dye' to inspect the septic. Said it wasn't necessary. He poked around with a rod for a couple of hours. Never heard from him again. No written report, etc.
Hate to say this, but you guys might have to look into getting a drainage system just to keep the house dry.
i would dig to the moat ore to your pond
Thanks like the video .
Thanks for watching. Leo!
Tim, I hate to break it to ya, but I think the excavator did a little bit more then little jhonny 😂
When you're neck deep in alligators, it's difficult to remember your prime objective was to drain the swamp.
Great video!
It's not possible to place the loop under the "pond"?
As I understand it beneath a pond is not a bad option, perhaps the pond is not deep enough or large enough?
Thanks for a great video!
Pond not deep enough...and I plan to work on it in the future...so cannot have the loop in there right now.
@@TractorTimewithTim My brother in law has his loop put in a pond. Its supposed to be the most efficient method. Perhaps its too far away from your house to be cost effective. Instead of a loop, its actually just a coil type box that you set in the bottom of the lake.
Pond only one foot deep
I think I would of waited till summer to do digging.
Temporary the heater for now.
You should have plenty of water if you ever want to enlarge the pond. I hope plan B works better.
Grass gonna struggle in your buried topsoil in the bottom of the trench?
Not really. Even the subsoil here is awesome. Breadbasket of the world!
I don’t know anything about geothermal systems, but just wondering about the pond? Could the pipes be run to the pond and looped around the bottom and back to the house. Our neighbour’s pond has one corner where springs supply the pond and on the coldest day of winter it never freezes. As a kid skating on that pond we knew never to go over to that corner. Like I said I don’t know nothing about these systems. Please excuse my ignorance on this. :-)
Laurie Harding yes that’s an option to do in geothermal. I’ve done this many times on houses that sit on golf courses.
Yes, but our pond is too shallow.
Tractor Time with Tim this is a good excuse to deepen the pond.
So much time, so little to do. Wait a minute. Strike that! Reverse it! ---Willy Wonka
thanks
5:05 the face you make when a teacher catches you cheating on a test......
jeepers a trench box would have saved you tons
Only thing is with the geo-thermo system the box would be in the way to put the lines for the loop against the trench walls the lines have to be so far apart and no air pockets during full in or it will not be very efficient to heat and cool. I use to install these systems and I also saw 1 problem here too. When refilling the trench we use to use the fine particles of dirt from a trencher (Ditchwitch) to be sure of minimum air pockets. But even a trencher would not work here. It is just to wet.
Yes. With so much water in the ground, I don’t think much worry about how one would refill the trench. Could not ask for more efficiency than sitting below the water table line.
Sorry that you didn't have any heat there. Has it been warmer for you lately? I just had high 40s for a couple days last week and more to come this week and I live significantly further north of you. You guys don't need Murphy hanging around any more. Hopefully the new year will be different. At any rate, hope you have a safe and Happy New Year. May God bless you.
It will all work out.
We have 4 little electric radiator type space heaters. They are doing a wonderful job!
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Hey TTWT family... maybe some sunny weekend you's could have a compact tractor get together, do some work to help ya's out, and we'll cook cheese burgers on the grills... You have helped us so much with showing them video's, it would be a great return for some of us to help you and Kristy.
Just dig a little wider and lay the trench back.
Wet wet tim,nice video👍
Why did u not just dig a safe trench? Don’t know how its in ur country but in Norway we are not allowed to dig deeper vertical more then a little over 1 feet. If we need to dig deeper we have to dig a 45* angel on the slops down to the trench for making it safe to go down in.
Happy New Year
And was there not a perk test before the digging started?
Couple test holes for sure!
What would be the point of that? The percolation rate only tests how fast the soil absorbs water. The real problem was the water table level under the current conditions. When I lived in the Midwest, we could have the water table level at anywhere from 2-feet to 8-feet depending upon the time of year, how much precipitation had occurred, and soil frost level.
He dug a test hike near the pond the day before. Didn’t think it was that bad.
How deep did you go before you hit water?
3’ or so.
@@TractorTimewithTim Bad for basements but good for water wells
Tim you could done with Ditching Bucket to Backfill see case quick release bucket there boring machine down road from us as firm building flood barrier
So will you be reimbursed for the rental of the excavator?
Case Construction provided the excavator.
@@TractorTimewithTim Ok thanks
Well, one thing about it if you decide to dig a well Johnny could probably do it
Hi Tim, I'm a big fan of your video. I do not miss any one that you are posting since the first one. I have also a JD 1025r that I just replaced by a brand new 2018 3033r with cab and I'm planing to start doing a small contract. So, I have a question for you; Do you have an other job or you are doing only contract with your 3 machines? Thanks for taking time to answer me. Sorry for my English, I'm francophone from Québec, Canada
How deep are the water wells in that area?
Our well is 192’
Are you sure it’s MEOH?
Just the wrong time of a wet year to have to dig trench.
Do yall have to pay more for bore machine
Yes.
I've got a recommendation for a future video that might be useful for new or upcoming excavator operators.. it goes something like this: Top 10 new excavator operator tips, or something like that. As always, keep up the good work and quality of your videos!
Well, I'm no expert. So, what you saw here is probably the closest to that video you'll see for awhile.
Gunshot at 13:33. Everybody duck!
Yea...have to get used to living in the country!
Where are you? that's beautiful dirt. I'm in NC it's clay once you get down about a foot
Central Indiana
How did is your frost line there?
3 ft or so is safe for water lines.
I’m wondering if it is more depressing that you have to wait longer for heat, or that you won’t have as much fixing to do in the yard? I was thinking that big trench would make lots of good equipment hours for Tim! That’s what I would want haha
Ha! Love your warped way of thinking !
Keep that phone line going to the shop. I had to have one put in as cell phones will not work in my shop, lucky if you get one bar. So I had a landline put in so customers could contact me. Funny my cell phone would ring but I would have to run outside with it to talk and no its not just my service, no one's phone works in here. And trust me its no fun running outside in the cold and rain just to talk on the phone.
You could also use it for a network connection
In our shop we use a cell phone booster. Before we installed it we would miss calls or loose them in parts of the shop. Now with the booster on we have perfect cell service.
@@bernarrcoletta7419 This too is true. I am forced to use AT&T but now I do have internet in the front office and the shop. One of the very best things I ever did in the shop was to put a computer back there. No more stopping to run up to the office to check e-mail or look up parts or order parts, looking up things I have never worked on before for tips and how-tos.
If there lucky the phone line is a cat5e cable and they can make it into an ethernet and have internet in the shop so they could have decent live streams there.
Put in plenty of conduit and run fiber. It's not expensive as you'd think.
As wet as the yard was, could you have put a tile in the trench to help dry the yard
Yes, but nowhere to drain the tile!
always loved the Bible verses thank God you're not political correct
A wheel or chain trencher that lays the pipe as it digs and backfills should work better. Often used for laying power cable or drain pipe. Laying your pipes shouldn't be a problem.
Even a cable plow on a big tractor can lay the pipe.
6 different lines which must be kept separate. Most cable plows would only lay one line.
@@TractorTimewithTim Another way of laying pipe is to dig a wide trench and lay the pipe in big overlapping circles. It takes more digging but the trench doesn't need to be as long. Just make sure to do it in a area without much shade.
THEY SHOULD HAVE MADE SMALL TEST HOLES TO TEST THE GROUND BE FOR A LONG OPEN TRENCH.
No real difference. They did a test hole. But you wouldn't really know until a longer trench was done.
One positive is your not out on a rental expenses which would be quite a bit money.
Yes! Thanks Case!