Just bought a TC 400. We run two 1411 NH and a JD MoCo 920 through everything from rye to grass hay, alfalfa, and even corn stalks. I am very impressed with the Krone and hopeful it is all I imagined it would be. Thanks for the video and love the channel.
Just an idea... for your farming model, sell the JD mower, get a Big M. Keep the Case for now as a spare, and hang on to the 4960, stick one of these Krone pull types behind it. The 4960 mainly on the Krone, less hrs... , but as 2nd machine.. both should last a long time, the Case as 3rd place, should last a lifetime. Lease the Big M, trade every couple yrs and it does 90% of the work but stays new. Purchase the Krone pull type, the 4960 is paid for. The Case is also paid for but is getting up there in hours.
Back home in East Tennessee alot of small cattle farms. Most of use use Fella bc the local dealership only sells them. Unless u want a used one then u might find something else. Thanks for sharing
We have a krone easycut 3200cv, a lot smaller than the movers you would look at, but we love it. It's a great mower, especially up here in NH, the granite state, I swear we farm rocks... The mower is super reliable and can handle the occasional ledge out crop (we try to avoid them but occasionally you might hit one) and the mower chugs right along. I also love how I can change the blades with a simple tool, no more socket and screw driver. We had a Kuhn GMD before, and still have it, that mower was really good, so we looked long and hard at Kuhn, and it just seemed like the technology, and build quality lacked that of the Krone. Plus the trailed krone seems to follow the contours a lot better than the Krone due to the design. All in all a great machine!
Road transport is always an issue around my area. Most fields are off single track roads that are 12-14 foot on a good day. Toss a small bridge in there and you're done if your any wider that that. See a lot of custom outfits who add hitches to the power unit and pull a header trailer behind them to fit the roads. The Amish farm had a custom crew come in last year, he had a lot of corn out and trying to handle that with a horse drawn unit just wasn't going to work.
Our John Deere 835 MoCo does really good for us. We bought it brand new. Here in a few years we are going to trade it off for a new 835 with the 2 point hitch and the large tires. 2 point hitch you can turn much sharper than the drawbar one that we have.
iowadairyboys I absolutely love our 835 with the 2pt hitch. With a quick attach system on the tractor's 3pt it's much faster to hook up and throwing it off either side of the tractor makes for much easier taking than our old 935 was.
We have had a tc400 for two years. Great mower and the safe cut is second to none. It saved our mower when I hit a big rock. It would have destroyed our Vermeer mower, sorry lely cutterbar fans but their design isn't in the same league. I know this because I have rebuilt the Vermeer three times already at countless hours a piece by the time you drop the cutterbar out and completely dismantle it. It has cut a lot of acres but they weren't trouble free. We have rebuilt the clutch several times also. On the krone, we don't use the end wise transport too much because we don't road travel a lot but if you did drive down the narrow county roads, I don't know why you would buy another brand. It makes it a lot easier to get into narrow gates, sheds and makes going down the road a breeze. No more looking back behind you anymore. It is a little more power hungry than our Vermeer but when you look at the two side by side, you'll know why. The krone is a lot heavier/stronger built. I can also mow faster without bogging the mower down.
They throw metal at it. My kind of guys. Anybody who has ever made repairs knows that's the best way to fix up a broken piece of equipment. That's it motto at work. If it fails, throw metal at it. When it doubt, build er stout.
Krone and John Deere need to pay you for your testimonials on their machines. I've been watching for several years now and you have been more satisfied with the Krone baler and the John Deere wind-rower than I've ever heard from you. I'm glad they are doing a good job for you and that you are really satisfied with them. Once again, I can't wait to see Theresa spreading lime. :)
Krone's solid bars were an absolute bastard. The mower did an unreal job, while it worked but it was all over when it chewed up a few gears after hitting a rock. Switched to a New Holland. Has had it's issues but at least the cutter bar drops out completely in 5 minutes and the turtles are all independent replaceable modules. New Holland shat it's main uni's and did the gearbox at the end of the last season. Not sure what to get now... The Massey / Hesston looks interesting.
the Krone has changed the way the cutter bar is protected and i do not think you will have the issues you did in the past. i know they where not as good as some of the competitors but they have raised the bar for sure now.
MacDon makes a pull type mower with the same transport method, not sure if they sell them in you area or what your thoughts are on them. They are made in Manitoba Canada, where I am from and lots of people use them and really like them. They are sold world wide, but if there is no close dealer then that wouldn't be the greatest for you.
i do wish more companies did thinks like krone. or krine made more kit like arable kit, grain harvesting kit and tractors cos a lot of companies do seam to try make things as cheap as possible instead of as durable as possible
Fantastic video. Mower looks brilliant. It would be good if you could do some more on the road videos of travelling to your fields IF your able to. All the best mate keeping produce the brilliant content.
This design has been around for at least 20 years now, in europe at least. The krone Easicut 6210 uses a much better wheel system than the mower in the video, There are also many others like the Kuhn alterna
Although I will correct myself, the mower in the video is somewhat different and does allow more possibilities for maneuvering into tight spaces since it swings hydraulically
I run a kuhn and a krone mower the krone disc idea doesn't work had to replace a few discs on the krone not replaced one on the kuhn. In my opinion the kuhn is a far better mower. Keep up the good work.
But you never tried any mowers made for Irish conditions. We have some of the harshest working environments for forage equipment so if it works here it will work anywhere.
onelonleyfarmer that I find hard to believe. krone are actually making a mower for the Irish and New Zealand market only. 3201CV is the model. we have 2 and our local dealer has sold over 70 of them in the past three years.
i have no experience with trailed mowers but i know krone Big Ms gaves serious bother in northern ireland you hit a stone bang they were broke and of course Krone did a good job and fixed it they some best moweres out there nothing mows like it although john deeres were popular in northern ireland as you said they seem to be very active and try their best to improve their products and yes you get what you paid for is right better spending little extra and getting something reliable than going cheap and buying a pill alot dont understand this
zzirSnipzz1 the older ones yes. pure scrap but the newer ones are supposed to be better. the trailed krone. mounted krobes and butterflies all have a big m500 mower bed in it
Second time - What about a 7 rotor disc mower one the front of a 7530 sized machine and a 8 rotor three point hitch disc mower on a KMC disc mower caddy with a hydraulic swing tongue to offset to the right so the front and rear cutters overlap 4" or so ? NO conditioners +but mulch does not matter All three pieces lees than 35K and narrow and durable with wider cut. Yes lime green is good
In Germany every machine has a transport position that´s not wider than 3 metres (I think that are 9 feet) because our roads are very small. Every machine that´s wider than 3 metres is not allowed to drive on german roads (Just harvesters with beacon lights on the top and a special license have special rights). That´s why Krone is building such a technology. I think, that this feature of the machine isn´t important for americans, or?
Depends on the area of the US... Up in the northeast where OLF is, the roads are narrow and winding, turns are tight, and he's up to his gazoo in neighbors and city idiots running around that have NO clue how to drive around farm machinery. Throw in small field sizes and narrow gates, and you have much the same need you're talking about in Germany. Go out west, to the Midwest, or other more "rural" parts of the country where the roads are wider, fields are bigger, and less people/traffic to deal with, and there would be little need for this lengthwise transport arrangement. Later! OL J R :)
Did Krone buy Macdon because the TC is the same as the R1. I am looking for a new mower but the closest Krone dealer to me is 2 hr but i have a John Deere dealer that has Macdon 10 min away.
Hey Wes! Machinery hacker/breaker/repairer since I was 10-11yrs old here talking (53 now though.... sometimes I work around them, or with them, but too often not. Although I'd wish to do only that rather than only being able to send my ideas from a keyboard.... but if it helps) How would it fit your needs if you were able to hook/unhook the mower-head with a quick-attach (hydro-quick included in the operation) and then simply haul it on a trailer behind the mower? (I really do not like the idea of you spending half a million on a folding mower, when maybe just a $2500 "hack" and 10min of time attaching/detaching on each field-switching might do the job) (I rather see you travelling and living, than worrying about how much hay you need to make for the enjoyment of dealers/banks/etc) You've been able to do what many can't even do and forced into selling everything including their freedom. Don't get side-tracked. I so much LOVE that UK deals you made (MachineryPete maybe can even help you sell those "butcher-table" tractors you have).... ok I'm side-tracking here and had a few beers already so... (but I'm switching engine on a garden-tractor while watching you and "That Chipper Guy" and keep an eye on my Dog etc....) btw: This new Kröne side-way support thing would have been great 30yrs ago on a 12' wide rig in my region. But, with so many options with 3point-hitch etc.... This is a bit lame, not bad, but yeah (You know) Whatever fits the needs of whatever that particular farmer's needs is fine with me. Each their own as I always say. No one has the same needs ;)
Look at the Massey Ferguson owners they have a demonstration with a hairy run intentionally into a inch and a half to inch piece of solid steel and it doesn't damage the head at all
do a video on the you're side mounted mower and the gale mower to see what you're going to have to fix on them and what is the name of you're side mounted mower.
what about jbc I know they're not in America don't think. I think you mentioned them but you were worried about parts surely this could be sent over to you if you'd order them straight from the manufacturer? why don't you become a distributor for them even better no!!
2015 till 2017 = 12 years wes what you been drinking hope your better with your numbers than that, think you need to watch the video again you will here what you said,
Always good to see you. Thanks for running up, its not a short trip!
Just bought a TC 400. We run two 1411 NH and a JD MoCo 920 through everything from rye to grass hay, alfalfa, and even corn stalks. I am very impressed with the Krone and hopeful it is all I imagined it would be. Thanks for the video and love the channel.
We run the krone triple mowers and have been extremely happy with them.
Just an idea... for your farming model, sell the JD mower, get a Big M. Keep the Case for now as a spare, and hang on to the 4960, stick one of these Krone pull types behind it. The 4960 mainly on the Krone, less hrs... , but as 2nd machine.. both should last a long time, the Case as 3rd place, should last a lifetime. Lease the Big M, trade every couple yrs and it does 90% of the work but stays new. Purchase the Krone pull type, the 4960 is paid for. The Case is also paid for but is getting up there in hours.
Sold one of these last year to one of our custom guys. They are awesome. Krone makes some of the best stuff on the market.
We have used Krone for 10 years love their equipment we bale over 1500 to 2000 acres a year
we actually buy parts from messicks and have them ship them to oklahoma to us
That's a awesome looking mower for going down the road! It would definitely make it much easier on the narrow side roads in Wisconsin
Back home in East Tennessee alot of small cattle farms. Most of use use Fella bc the local dealership only sells them. Unless u want a used one then u might find something else. Thanks for sharing
We have a krone easycut 3200cv, a lot smaller than the movers you would look at, but we love it. It's a great mower, especially up here in NH, the granite state, I swear we farm rocks... The mower is super reliable and can handle the occasional ledge out crop (we try to avoid them but occasionally you might hit one) and the mower chugs right along. I also love how I can change the blades with a simple tool, no more socket and screw driver. We had a Kuhn GMD before, and still have it, that mower was really good, so we looked long and hard at Kuhn, and it just seemed like the technology, and build quality lacked that of the Krone. Plus the trailed krone seems to follow the contours a lot better than the Krone due to the design. All in all a great machine!
Road transport is always an issue around my area. Most fields are off single track roads that are 12-14 foot on a good day. Toss a small bridge in there and you're done if your any wider that that. See a lot of custom outfits who add hitches to the power unit and pull a header trailer behind them to fit the roads. The Amish farm had a custom crew come in last year, he had a lot of corn out and trying to handle that with a horse drawn unit just wasn't going to work.
Krone and Kuhn are the best hay and forage equipment I've ever used.
You sharing your knowledge to help others make decisions!
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That mower is like a spaceships compared to the old gehl 880 and new holland haybine I'm use to using . This new technology is awesome.
Big Joe I have an 880 if you need one for parts
Our John Deere 835 MoCo does really good for us. We bought it brand new. Here in a few years we are going to trade it off for a new 835 with the 2 point hitch and the large tires. 2 point hitch you can turn much sharper than the drawbar one that we have.
iowadairyboys I absolutely love our 835 with the 2pt hitch. With a quick attach system on the tractor's 3pt it's much faster to hook up and throwing it off either side of the tractor makes for much easier taking than our old 935 was.
Yep that's what are going to do when we get the 2 pt one.
We have had a tc400 for two years. Great mower and the safe cut is second to none. It saved our mower when I hit a big rock. It would have destroyed our Vermeer mower, sorry lely cutterbar fans but their design isn't in the same league. I know this because I have rebuilt the Vermeer three times already at countless hours a piece by the time you drop the cutterbar out and completely dismantle it. It has cut a lot of acres but they weren't trouble free. We have rebuilt the clutch several times also. On the krone, we don't use the end wise transport too much because we don't road travel a lot but if you did drive down the narrow county roads, I don't know why you would buy another brand. It makes it a lot easier to get into narrow gates, sheds and makes going down the road a breeze. No more looking back behind you anymore. It is a little more power hungry than our Vermeer but when you look at the two side by side, you'll know why. The krone is a lot heavier/stronger built. I can also mow faster without bogging the mower down.
that mower on a jcb would be one heck of a road machine.
Just like a kinze planter. That's pretty cool!!
pretty impressive feature for sure. looks like a nice mower for people who have to run the roads
They throw metal at it. My kind of guys. Anybody who has ever made repairs knows that's the best way to fix up a broken piece of equipment. That's it motto at work. If it fails, throw metal at it. When it doubt, build er stout.
Krone and John Deere need to pay you for your testimonials on their machines. I've been watching for several years now and you have been more satisfied with the Krone baler and the John Deere wind-rower than I've ever heard from you. I'm glad they are doing a good job for you and that you are really satisfied with them. Once again, I can't wait to see Theresa spreading lime. :)
Krone's solid bars were an absolute bastard. The mower did an unreal job, while it worked but it was all over when it chewed up a few gears after hitting a rock. Switched to a New Holland. Has had it's issues but at least the cutter bar drops out completely in 5 minutes and the turtles are all independent replaceable modules. New Holland shat it's main uni's and did the gearbox at the end of the last season. Not sure what to get now... The Massey / Hesston looks interesting.
the Krone has changed the way the cutter bar is protected and i do not think you will have the issues you did in the past. i know they where not as good as some of the competitors but they have raised the bar for sure now.
That looks like a pretty sweet mower! I like what they've been doing
Would be darn nice around here with these narrow back road bridges... Thanks for the information
Very nice Wes, Krone has made a smart mower !
Looks like a great idea and a lot cheaper than buying a self propelled mower
MacDon makes a pull type mower with the same transport method, not sure if they sell them in you area or what your thoughts are on them. They are made in Manitoba Canada, where I am from and lots of people use them and really like them. They are sold world wide, but if there is no close dealer then that wouldn't be the greatest for you.
i do wish more companies did thinks like krone. or krine made more kit like arable kit, grain harvesting kit and tractors cos a lot of companies do seam to try make things as cheap as possible instead of as durable as possible
PRETTY COOL MOWER
People can brag all they want about John Deere and case but nothing beats a krone product ,
Cool Mower!
Very nice setup.
be handy on some back roads and bridges here.
wow that mower is slick
Fantastic video. Mower looks brilliant. It would be good if you could do some more on the road videos of travelling to your fields IF your able to. All the best mate keeping produce the brilliant content.
we had the krone 10.10 metres on a NH t7 . 270 we managed to get it runing 17-24kmh at full throw! and it was some nasty hills there to.
Try that in our first cuts and you'll drive 5km/h
I have the ectc400 it has been flawless for 500 or so acres since I bought it last fall. The transport system is worth every penny.
This design has been around for at least 20 years now, in europe at least. The krone Easicut 6210 uses a much better wheel system than the mower in the video, There are also many others like the Kuhn alterna
Although I will correct myself, the mower in the video is somewhat different and does allow more possibilities for maneuvering into tight spaces since it swings hydraulically
I run a kuhn and a krone mower the krone disc idea doesn't work had to replace a few discs on the krone not replaced one on the kuhn. In my opinion the kuhn is a far better mower. Keep up the good work.
Wow very impressive!! I have been waiting for a machine just like this, I will be getting more info on it!!
But you never tried any mowers made for Irish conditions. We have some of the harshest working environments for forage equipment so if it works here it will work anywhere.
goldbugatti well I disagree try the mulch hay is tougher than that
onelonleyfarmer that I find hard to believe. krone are actually making a mower for the Irish and New Zealand market only. 3201CV is the model. we have 2 and our local dealer has sold over 70 of them in the past three years.
i have no experience with trailed mowers but i know krone Big Ms gaves serious bother in northern ireland you hit a stone bang they were broke and of course Krone did a good job and fixed it they some best moweres out there nothing mows like it although john deeres were popular in northern ireland as you said they seem to be very active and try their best to improve their products and yes you get what you paid for is right better spending little extra and getting something reliable than going cheap and buying a pill alot dont understand this
Kneverland are a very tried and tested mower we run that don't give an ounce of bother
zzirSnipzz1 the older ones yes. pure scrap but the newer ones are supposed to be better. the trailed krone. mounted krobes and butterflies all have a big m500 mower bed in it
That looks like it's gonna be the next Wes toy!!! And you enough tractors where you can actually run that and the two mowers
Wes the guys at windy bush hay farms around dolyestown pa has 2 of them for the same reason u stated it's easier to go down the road with
thanks for the video
Second time - What about a 7 rotor disc mower one the front of a 7530 sized machine and a 8 rotor three point hitch disc mower on a KMC disc mower caddy with a hydraulic swing tongue to offset to the right so the front and rear cutters overlap 4" or so ? NO conditioners +but mulch does not matter All three pieces lees than 35K and narrow and durable with wider cut. Yes lime green is good
Man, you know a lot about mowers (AND rakes)...
thanks Wes
OnelonlyKronefarmer. Krone the best there is
Onelonlybaler
***** haha a good one
Hi nice video
but your John Deere windrower uses a Kuhn cutterbar too , john deere did not build a own cutterbar
Altmark Agra his
+Ben Steinbach ?
Very Cool!!!
that is very cool
Wes I'm really hoping you get a big M like the one you test drove.
Love it....
I have a new TC 500 and will do a review soon!
oh those crafty Germans
you should make a trip to spelle to their factory it's nice to see
Wes, now this was a good video! Thanks.
Trust me the shear pins work I run 2 krone mowers!
In Germany every machine has a transport position that´s not wider than 3 metres (I think that are 9 feet) because our roads are very small. Every machine that´s wider than 3 metres is not allowed to drive on german roads (Just harvesters with beacon lights on the top and a special license have special rights). That´s why Krone is building such a technology. I think, that this feature of the machine isn´t important for americans, or?
Depends on the area of the US... Up in the northeast where OLF is, the roads are narrow and winding, turns are tight, and he's up to his gazoo in neighbors and city idiots running around that have NO clue how to drive around farm machinery. Throw in small field sizes and narrow gates, and you have much the same need you're talking about in Germany.
Go out west, to the Midwest, or other more "rural" parts of the country where the roads are wider, fields are bigger, and less people/traffic to deal with, and there would be little need for this lengthwise transport arrangement.
Later! OL J R :)
Why doesn't Krone make a regular wind rower like the Deere and Case you got????
you can't beat German engineering..
Did Krone buy Macdon because the TC is the same as the R1. I am looking for a new mower but the closest Krone dealer to me is 2 hr but i have a John Deere dealer that has Macdon 10 min away.
eddt466 They designed it together so the krone mower is the same as the macdon. Krone doesn't own macdon that I am aware of.
Thank you
The cutterbar comes from Krone and the rest was designed together with Macdon so it fits the North American market
KyFarmerman yes but only the swathers. the disc mowers like olf has is a jd. those dont have anything to do with mac don...
Andy Hass opo
lets have another explosive easter sunday please blow up another tree man
Hey Wes!
Machinery hacker/breaker/repairer since I was 10-11yrs old here talking (53 now though.... sometimes I work around them, or with them, but too often not. Although I'd wish to do only that rather than only being able to send my ideas from a keyboard.... but if it helps)
How would it fit your needs if you were able to hook/unhook the mower-head with a quick-attach (hydro-quick included in the operation) and then simply haul it on a trailer behind the mower? (I really do not like the idea of you spending half a million on a folding mower, when maybe just a $2500 "hack" and 10min of time attaching/detaching on each field-switching might do the job) (I rather see you travelling and living, than worrying about how much hay you need to make for the enjoyment of dealers/banks/etc) You've been able to do what many can't even do and forced into selling everything including their freedom. Don't get side-tracked. I so much LOVE that UK deals you made (MachineryPete maybe can even help you sell those "butcher-table" tractors you have).... ok I'm side-tracking here and had a few beers already so... (but I'm switching engine on a garden-tractor while watching you and "That Chipper Guy" and keep an eye on my Dog etc....)
btw: This new Kröne side-way support thing would have been great 30yrs ago on a 12' wide rig in my region. But, with so many options with 3point-hitch etc.... This is a bit lame, not bad, but yeah (You know) Whatever fits the needs of whatever that particular farmer's needs is fine with me. Each their own as I always say. No one has the same needs ;)
Look at the Massey Ferguson owners they have a demonstration with a hairy run intentionally into a inch and a half to inch piece of solid steel and it doesn't damage the head at all
will you be doing a big m field demo this growing season ?
awesome
60k for a dam mower! it better be bullet proof gzzz. better have 1k acres to cut to spend that much.
whats the story on the 3pt new holland disc mower?
Triple mowers fold up to 9', are you gonna get them now?.... sorry somebody had to say it lol
SeaBasstian1 triples are no good for my operation. I had one and sent it back in one week.
And no video? :)
Video or didn't happen :-)
This was before he started his channel.
do a video on the you're side mounted mower and the gale mower to see what you're going to have to fix on them and what is the name of you're side mounted mower.
Hey did you mean 2005 not 2015 on the Gale mower
When you getting this mower be good this year for you
that was a cool video approx price on that
he says in the vid. 40-60k
Thanks missed that
what about jbc I know they're not in America don't think. I think you mentioned them but you were worried about parts surely this could be sent over to you if you'd order them straight from the manufacturer? why don't you become a distributor for them even better no!!
Oh nooo! You said koon here come the haters!
Jeez get the joke
that mower is bad ass. wonder how much that thing costs
If you watched the video you'd not have to wonder....
pay no notice to this 57fitter idiot..he thinks he is Wes protector or something...he isnt even a farmer lol
NOT an idiot. A commenter that continually puts people down , now there's and idiot.
Are you going to demo a 16 footer for us?
r u going to buy it
what happens to the driveline when the mover turns?
Looking at the brochure it looks like the last section of shaft extends out as it rotates
would you buy one
2015 till 2017 = 12 years wes what you been drinking hope your better with your numbers than that, think you need to watch the video again you will here what you said,
orkid knog 2005
Are you buying one
If you had any brains Wes and grew the right kind of grass, you would only have to do it once then retire.
What are you talking about? Weed? Are u high or something
now I just need to plant a grove of geldscheisser baume out back and I can go krone!
Me too !!!! 😂😂👍👍
Never heard the cost -
Donald Ellett he said 40 to 60 grand
first