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- Who were the Anglo-Saxons? The Anglo-Saxon Heptarchy? How did the Anglo-Saxon settlement of Britain happen? The history of the English begins in the fifth century with a little group called the Jutes. Episode 12 of the Swan Show!
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The Jutes much have been the same tribe as the Goths from the south of Sweden and Gotland, as the letter 'G' is frequently softened the way it often is in English in front of soft vowels. So basically, the English are mostly Scandinavian, the Angles being from the area where modern day Denmark meets modern day Germany. Then England was invaded and ruled by the Danish when they were known as such under the Danelaw. Later still, in 1066, some other reprocessed Francified Danes from Normandy added to the mix. So basically the English are Danes without a speech impediment.
Studying the changing of language is very insightful when we have so few historical records!
@@TheSwanShowMain Indeed. I hope the Danes in the audience did not object to my little levity. If you know Danish (I am versatile but by no means fluent) and you read Anglo-Saxon, you will probably, as I did when I first read Old English, find that that language feels much more akin to Modern Danish than it does to Modern English.
Proud of this Scandinavian legacy
They're often separated from the Geats and Gotlanders. But the names are probably related. And the goths seemed to have been a mishmash of various tribes.
The jutes came from Jutland, so did the Cimbri from the northern part of Jutland, todays Thy. The Cimbris challenged the Roman Empire 400 - 500 years before the Jutes went to Britain. The Goths went more south and central Europe as the Rus later did in the Viking age 750 - 1050.
I am a man of Kent. Kent was called the garden of England and was complete with coal and iron ore. It still is the Garden of England and contains vineyards making the finest wines. The Jutes knew that Kent was the most developed and last outpost of the Romans so a ready baked cake and they were invited. Smart lads.
There was also a small pocket of Jutish settlement just above the Isle of Wight, which is where my Mum's people were from. Thank you for recognising the oft-forgotten 'others' of the 'Anglo-Saxon' settlement of Britain.
More on that will come in the future! Stay tuned!
Do you know your family tree going back that far?
As an Englishman, born and bred, from the West Midlands.. it is known here that England = Anglo-Saxon (Germanic confederation), Briton/Gaul, and Norse heritage.
Why do the East Midlands not know this ?
Hurrah! I am a jute. Finally we are being mentioned. Our name got lost in the concept Anglosaxon.
Any links with the Jutes have long since been bred into general Britishness.
The British have a common ancestor point in 1290 . Long after the Jutes first settled here.
Bonderøv 😁
Hi! I’m Jute/Anglo …this is all so interesting to see where we came from…
This is like Asterix&Obelix, great, unobtrusive presentation, watching before bed, super comfy!
The jutes came back. As vikings.
You seem to have missed the New Forest; previously called Ytene forest (forest of the Jutes) where they also lived between Hampshire and Dorset essentially in the middle of Wessex (it has the big question mark on the map there)...otherwise, good video.
More on that in a future episode!
The strong burr in the dialect from Hampshire is quite different from Sussex dialect. I dont know why, other than Jute vs Saxon but the difference is quite striking.
The Saxons of Wessex and the Jutes of Kent seem to have merged into a single tribe as early as late 9th century when the two regions, along with Sussex and Surrey, were joined under a common king, Ecgberht - King Alfred's grandfather. So it makes perfect sense if there was a Jutish settlement int he middle of Sussex.
the gregorian mission into canterbury in 597 is full of tales from the religious perspective. kind of the second roman conquering of britain. its full of anglos, saxons, jutes, romans, celts, and all the minor tribes. plus all the earliest kings lineages are explained.
I am Danish, English Swedish, Norwegian and Irish and Scottish and Welsh...
Very Northern European! And I bet your hair is very fair!
Same as 90% of the UK then
From what I learned of my family, the last name of Teutsch, they came from Jutland and fought many wars against the Romans. They won lots but were very bloody bltimes, and some of the women poisoned the kids and themselves rather than be captured, so complete chaos back then. Eventually, my ancestors split off and settled in Switzerland (as blacksmiths) before sailing to the U.S. in a merchant ship....Oh we founded German town in the state of Louisiana... my 3rd grandfather was known as the 1st to build the log cabins with dove tail notches. ✌️🖖👍... from the map you showed ofthe Jutes sailing by the English Saxons, mine sailed to that Frisian area instead.
You should write down the oral history of your family!
Great graphics!
As it turns out. The saxons never pushed the Britons out. Theey sinply became the dominant culture, a majority of britons today are More celtic than they are Germanic. Between 10-40% saxon DNA. Higher in the south
Majority of Britons?
Are you including Cornish, Welsh, Scots in that?
The figures would be higher in most of England, especially in the eastern and Central parts.
@adventussaxonum448 This was more a study of the populated areas of southern England which is where you would expect people to be the most Saxon. And they are. But that usually only goes as high as 40% even in the heartland of Anglo Saxon territory. Which shows that the Natives were not all pushed out
This makes a lot of sense.
Interested to read similar, little evidence of huge battles of conquest like the Romans, Vikings and Normans. Britons had already abandoned Roman settlements in the east and many Germanic settlers would rarely even meet Romano-Celts.
The lack of huge battle evidence is because as far back as the second century the Anglo Saxons had control of towns and garrisons all over England, especially on the coasts for trading too. But there were large battles where needed. Then in the fifth century some areas of Welsh accepted the English others fought and then fled. Don't forget the Welsh had a mix of tribes and regions already accepting of the English and other areas purely Welsh. The Welsh were not unified so all responded differently.
Your video was with incorrect premises. Hengist was a Jute.
The land of Kent was Jutes first. Rest of Britain was then Anglic or Saxonic, and a Jutish Bretwalda ruled as the overlord of several Anglo-Saxon vassals
What makes you think he was a Jute?
@@TheSwanShowMain I read the book called Ecclesiastical history of the English.
The Author, Bede, explicitly states that the Jutes settled Kent, ruled by Hengist and Horsa.
Why would ethnically Saxon chiefs rule ethnically Jute populace and the ethnic distinction of aristocracy to population not be explicitly pointed out.
Hengist and Horsa were Saxons, seeking land for settlement in England (frisian "Ingelan" = Angelland). The Saxons were on the move because of Attila and his combined Hunnic/Germanic and other tribes' forces moving westward onto and into Saxon territory.
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If you read Bede, then you should know that the Jutes also settled south Hampshire and the Isle of Wight, not just Kent.
@@adventussaxonum448 I do know this but I purposely overlook it as it's *not* tremendously relevant.
I always wondered what the deal with the Jutes was tbh, I know who the Anglos and Saxons were but who in the heck were the Jutes?
2 more episodes to enjoy!
Proto Danes from Jutland.
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I'm half German, a quarter Irish, and a quarter British (with some Welsh and Dutch potentially mixed in there). Considering how Vikings (Germanic tribes that migrated north) constitute much of Irish dna, and the British were mostly German tribes, I'm basically all German.
Germanic is not German. The first term helps in understanding that the peoples in question came mainly from parts of northern Europe that were not in fact what later became Germany.
Welsh is British
Vikings were not German
@@PiousMoltar If I'm Welsh at all its because an ancestor was kicked out of Britain and exiled to Wales (a Rough Rider) , and maybe or maybe not interbred with locals. "Vikings" (Norsemen who went "in veeking" or raiding) came from somewhere and migrated north, they didn't come from Germanic tribes? Germanic tribesmen are German ancestors. Do Norse people have blue eyes? Do Germans? Guess what, single ancestor, related.
Germania was what the Romans called the land(Countries)North of them it can't be translated to Germans , it includes Scandinavia, Frisia, Netherlands, parts of Belgium, Switzerland, Austria, Iceland, Faroe Island, Luxenbourg Lichtenstein, Germany, and after the invasion of Anglo-Saxons also UK , the Germanic people actually originated in Scandinavia and spread from there into west/north/central western Europe
@@dreamluchadore Vikings were Germanic, not German. They were from Scandinavia, not Germany. They were North Germanic, Germans are West Germanic. And what do you mean kicked out of Britain and exiled to Wales!? Wales is Britain!
Jutes = people from Jutland Denmark
Be careful what you say in this video I might find a boat and go back to Europe where I belong
These origin stories are the politically convenient potted histories of ruling families and shouldn't be taken literally. While there were certainly waves of migration from the North Sea coast, conflict and displacement, there was also a lot of assimilation of and alliances with Britons as well as various Germanic people adopting new tribal identities. When we say Kent was Jutish, what we really mean is: the dominant force in the formation of the ruling coalition was a warband led by someone who claimed his was the grandson of a chieftain in Jutland.
A ruling house having a particularly grand Germanic background story could well be a sign of them obscuring a Celtic origin. For example, the royal house of Wessex claimed descent from Wodan, but its earliest recorded members had Celtic names.
There are so few records it's possible to fill the gaps with all sorts of stuff. Perhaps Kent was ruled over by Jutes, perhaps it was made up of Jutes; it's impossible to say!
The thing with Cedric of Wessex is that he may have been Celtic, but he may have been the result of earlier Celt and Saxon royals intermixing. The story of him coming from across the sea is iffy though!
@@TheSwanShowMain Thanks for your reply. I really enjoyed your video btw and thought it was beautifully put together.
I'm not entirely convinced that the entire Brythonic population moved out when the Angles/Saxons/Jutes arrived. That's their home. Most have never travelled more than ten to twenty miles in their lives. People don't like leaving their homes. If there's archaeological evidence to back up a total replacement, fine, but usually the people who live on the land stay where they are and just put up with whoever's in charge.
They gave their children Welsh names to endear them to the Welsh populace. And a!so to encourage the Welsh princess to marry the Wessex Prince. Political conquest saves spilling blood
Remember Cantware was a strong separate Welsh kingdom, so when it was promised (or taken) it was a logical and distinct region to own, with good natural geographic boundaries. Whether or not Hengest was fully real or semi mythical (probably somewhere in between) he would logically sail up the estuary and land at Ebbsfleet.
Kent held out a long while during which Wessex and Mercia grew, which gives weight to the argument of Kent not being Saxon (Sussex Wessex) nor Angle (Mercian)
Great video - thanks for the upload!
What's your favourite part?
Mind you only a small part of the Jutes went west most stayed right here and we still live here today in Denmark
and Jutes still care more about farming than war
@LynxLord1991 hey man I am jut from India
@@proudhuman166 Do you mean Jats`? or are you a Norse person in India?
You don't happen to know more about the merging of the Jutes and Danes in northern Jylland, do you? I have some personal interest there, the Jueal family is named after Jylland and the name dates back to the middle ages. (at some time during the 14th or 25th C one member of the family claimed it was the oldest noble house in Scandinavia so it must have been a few centuries old even back then.) I'd love to learn whether it was Jutish or Danish originally but I haven't been able to trace it back that far.
@@tessjuel Cant tell you much about the name sadly. What I can tell you is that Gorm the old united west Denmark among them the Jutes who stayed in Denmark and his son united the rest after him. The Jelling Stone commemorates this as the fist time Denmark is called a single Kingdom. Before the Viking age the Jutes took to migrating outward to the Friesian coast and to England as the Romans left. As for your name I highly doubt anyone would know it as the oldest Noble house that's a bit of a claim as we have names from the Viking age and you said its from the middle-ages, assuming you are American as thats the only place the name shows up in records you most likely left Europe in the 17th and 18th and if thats the case your name might have drifted either by moving from Denmark earlier and settled in either England or Friesia. My guess and its only a guess is that the name if Danish comes from the Juel area in Denmark a coastal region not far from Jellinge with the city called Juelsminde literally meaning Juels remembrance, without more info I cant really pinpoint anything else though I hope this helps and ask away if you got something more to ask though if you want anything more assured you might want to contact the historical achieves in Copenhagen they might point you closer
Your graphics remind me of the "Prince Valiant" series in the Sunday Times from 4 decades ago. 😂 Great work. 👍
Just looked it up. It looks very cool!
I suppose Mick Jagger is a Jute because he's from Kent
Yeah, but probably left because he couldn't get any satisfaction...
@@steffenb.jrgensen2014 🤣🤣
Great vid, great artwork.
Why would the Jutes have been more cosmopolitan than the Saxons?
Wild guess but they were on the Jutland Peninsula which would have been better for trading routes. So maybe commerce was more developed?
@baybarsedturner2 If they were more sophisticated, though I think it's a big If, then that would be the most likely reason I guess. Every boat or ship going in or out of the Skaggerack might have had to pay them some sort of tax.
More next episode. Stay tuned!@@ConradAinger
The Saxons were more violent. Seax blade, Saxon shield wall, Norman reference to English infantry as Saxons etc. Whereas the Angles were more peaceful and gave us Anglish language and culture and Angleland, Jutes were closer to Angles
@@christianwithers7335
How fanciful, to suppose that the Angles were more peaceful than the Saxons.
Why would they have been?
And are you familiar with the history of Bernicia?
the jutes was like refuges then invaders. becorse the Danes invadet jytlant ad the time
What kind of art artificial intelligence do you use?
you need to take back your land brits. you are being invaded. and i am talking about the present day.
Are you a fan of the Anglo-Saxon period in British history?
@@TheSwanShowMain Not really. I hate middle / late medieval europe or the ancient prehistoric times.
How did you find this video?@@wszechbytdoskonay3071
I know and nobody seems to notice or try and safe guard it, as with the UN/as with other natives tribes like the America/canadian Indians and Aboriginals, our history seems to be twisted to make it look like we have no rights in it, the foreigners seem to think they have just as much rights or more with some to it which is absolutely bonkers, it will start to cause problems soon as people can start noticing the demographic change, it will become a culture genocide if it dosnt slow down, theres rumblings from my northern neighbours and cousins across the sea to the west now to, but England seeming like the first experimental sacrificial lamb they noticed quicker than us English did at the start, but many had been given them the heads later up on what was happening... It needs to stop..
By who? Most of the migrant groups are from former protectorates.
The jutes settled the new forest and meon valley
Cheers!
I hope you're enjoying the show!
I thought Hengist & were Jutes. I thought Gildas was simply unable to distinguish, Angles, Saxons, Jutes, Franks & Frisians apart.
Hengist and Horsa were likely Angle royalty!
@@TheSwanShowMain Thank you for the information. This is intriguing. Our ancestors are intriguing.
Henga and Horsa were definitely Jutes. They killed 'king' Fin in Friesia. So an angle Friesian Saxon army came to Britain to kill them in the Hampshire/Isle of Wight area. The beginning of the Anglo-Viking wars.
@@generalg.b.mcclellan3079 I've never heard of this. Where can I read more?
The Jutes (people of Kent) did not fight William the bastard at Hastings 1066 as they disliked the Earl of Kent, Harold Godwinson. They stood back from the battle and watched! As William marched on London, the people of Kent appeared from the forest and offered William a fight! William declined and instead negotiated to leave them in control of Kent except for Dover Castle and the Medway crossing. There is a large plaque on a church in Swanscombe that commemorates the meeting. However once William, now the First , had secured the rest of England he reneged on the agreement and took over Kent completely.
But what about that Scandinavian or German DNA is very hard to find in Kent, almost absent, according to geneticist B.Sykes? (OrlandoFlorida).
What's there instead?
@@TheSwanShowMain good question, ask sykes
A bit difficult- he's dead. And his theories on the genetic make-up of Britain have largely been discredited.
For a start, he claimed that the population was pretty much defended from Cro- Magnon hunter gatherers, whereas current evidence suggests a 90 % replacement by steppe-descended Bell Beaker folk in the early Bronze Age.
He also severely underestimated the Anglo-Saxon (including Jutes) element in the modern English population.
I'm interested in that. My name is very common in Essex and my family can trace its roots back to the C16th as tenant farmers there. Yet, there is almost no foreign DNA in me, 96% British/Irish, weeny bit of Spanish/Norse (from the Irish side I guess) and a little over 2.5% Neanderthal. I figured we weren't quitters and just stayed put to farm in our lovely valley not far from Chelmsford and just let the Romans, Angles, Saxons and Normans rule over us. 🤔
@@adventussaxonum448 one thing for sure,, the people from British isles they ALL came from abroad.
Jutes in the Isle of Wight were exterminated by the Wessex King Caedwalla. Patron saint of serial killers
Poor visually. Not very good historically. Is this history (or lack of it) for children?
Yep we already know
Everyone always forgets us Frisians....sigh.
How are you able to tell you're Frisian?
@@TheSwanShowMain My ancestors originate from the province of Friesland, Netherlands.
Really? So all thirty two of your great great great grandparents were Frisian? Wow
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It was only England and Wales that was conquered the Picts in Caledonia ( Scotland) fought off the angles and vikings
The Irish conquered you centuries before so shut it...the picts of the east lowlands became danelaw and then saxons as with the anglishc..
Initially yes. But today there is more Anglo-Saxon dna in Edinburgh and the Borders than in Devon and Cornwall or Herefordshire or Cumbria.
@@stephfoxwell4620 well then stop cherry picking the anglo saxon DNA only then? , when you un-wash your brain from "English bad", you'll see Roman, viking, even saxon and most certainly Norman in that mix to???, in fact not much difference with the ancient Brythonic DNA they all share to with each other?.... Just in some countries more than others, but still predominantly native to these isles???? Funny how its only the Anglisc that get called the foreign invader, colonialist and not original natives ??? But apparently to welsh and scots no Roman or viking or Norman set foot there?? Which they historically did!!! See the hypocrisy now??..united we stand, divided we shall fall, one by one, i as a very, very proud Englishman, love and respect my westerly and Northern cousins...... God save our kin, and god save our country's. 🇬🇧....
Not true. Scots, the (confusingly named) language, is proof of that. Much of south east Scotland was part of the Anglo kingdom of Northumbria. Much of Scotland was also under Viking rule for a while, mainly the islands. Also they were conquered by the Scoti which was rather successful to say the least since we now call it Scotland.
Why do lowland Scots have 25% Anglo-Saxon dna then?
Childish drivel
Not sure about the Jutes.
But I heard that Frisian women are all cows.
I would like to know what religion the Jutes had, I know that the Angles and Saxons were respectively Sun and Venus worshippers.
From their name I suspect they were Saturn worshippers.
I think the Germanic and Scandinavian pantheons of this era were very similar.
What is this fasination with the English of who they where and who they became, its all getting a bit cringe now..anyhow london and the south east being the centre of power for Brittons those(high society) would be the first people to be wiped clean as they are the levers of power, so the jute elites and family would have been concrete shoed and changed with norman aristocrats also those in close proximity in the same way to guarantee safety of the new overlords and prevent rebellion from quickly gathering momentum,the same as they did in Dublin Ireland by marrying cheiftains daughters and sisters to them for alliances , but kept the native serfs further a field to to all things serf like, only difference in Ireland they seemed to have done alot more breeding throughout the isles, after all billy the bastard was a decendent from rolo also from saxon nobility and heritage already, in fact he was Harold brothers son out of wedlock with a mistress, who ruled the duchy of normandy which as we all know was English sovereignty and not french land the same as channel islands is a Duchy..
You are wrong, the men of Kent didn't follow Harold, and didn't fight the Normans, and then when William rode to London he thus chose not to attack them as thanks
Rollo was Norse not Saxon
@@christianwithers7335 don't tell me my own country history, i think i know it more than you, thankyou.
I know my own nations history better than you bot, so troll off Newby account holder.