I love that you explain the most things you do. It makes your videos extremly intresting PLUS I can find my own ideas what to combine, especially while playing with my wife.
I had to read this a few times because I was wondering what the wife you referred was that Dex was playing with untill I realized you meant yourself lol. (thought the wife might be some sort of item or weapon)
In regards to your question Dex... I think if you're doing a detailed guide just to "win" level 20 is enough but, if you're doing a fun run for yourself, endless is better. They are 2 different games it feels like so the strategy can change quite substantially with items that cut your scaling for early benefits if you're only planning on a level 20 run. Anyway, whatever you decide works for me, love your content :).
Dex.. I love the endless videos, but I would call it once your done playing and not laughing and enjoying it. Once you reach that as you did in this video its good to call it game over. I just love listening to your commentary you have throughout while im playing the game as well or catching some of the luck you get not dying with a miracle dodge
I think going into endless is only worth if you have a build idea, but it's not quite there yet. Or to limit test how far you can go. As long as you're having fun with the game, and you're happy with the video. We will watch. Endless or not.
I honestly like going endless, since some builds pop off only after wave 20. So I am more than fine with you going endless every time! But I also love that you somehow always know when to stop and cut it. I think you're doing perfect right now :)
Honestly, the best thing you can give us is your laugh whenever you get something broken, unezpected or a stupidly cursed item, so whenever a run bores you i'd say just stop playing it
btw dex they fixed the spyglasses so u can no longer get money from rerolling, also I somehow got a 53% reduced reroll price on one of them and I didn't even know it could go that high
Provided the highest for cursed objects is really at 2.1x the maximum should be 52.5% for the spyglass. In many Situations it rounds up, like with dangerous bunny and black flag being at 3 for materials gained or free rerolls, so i'd guess this is what's going on here.
@Dex I just wanted to say that bounces half their damage after every bounce. meaning that if your first hit is 100 damage, the next is 50. Because of this, even having 5 bounces means the last shot is only dealing 3 damage. Because of this, I don't take too many ricochets, unless they are cursed, which has a lesser damage penalty.
Armor scaling does matter it can actually break the game. Once your money HP nicely outscales your Ghost Scepter HP swap to potato gun for nice damage, then you need to get cursed stone skin. Since armor is typically low on demon runs, if you find an axolotl to switch your HP and armor, it actually doubles your HP
@@EliDontDoIt swapper 700hp for 20 armor, 98% damage reduction! achived 99% reduction on 1k armor, potato guns and just click "next wave" when got bored
@@MikhailKoshelev I did a modded Demon run and ended up with 50,000 HP and 24k armor. The thing said 100% damage reduction but it was probably like 99.98% and just rounding up. I can get that number higher with the new cursed characters mod.
Remember. Pearl have chance to get EXTRA pearls in crates. So insead of a random item, you chave chance for same item + pearl as bonus. Just awesome free damage tbh (as long as you don't have negative luck) Btw. Loving you videos Dex. ^_^
I think asking your audience if they want endless might be just measuring the trap effect of, "Yes, more = better" where viewers are always going to say they want more, but aren't aware of how much work goes into the videos and don't realize that they could probably have two or even three times as many videos if they didn't go endless.
34:27 Yes, it counts every weapon individually. As I explained in the last video, the difference is hard to see due to the high attack speed, but it is there.
Now that the game got an insane amount of new items and weapons, a build can be only half done before you reach wave 20. You might not even get six red weapons yet, let alone six cursed ones or any legendaries. So all my runs are now endless by default. That being said, an "endless" run doesn't necessary have to mean "keep going for as long as possible until you can't continue anymore", I just don't stop at wave 20 any longer. My current modus operandi is to keep going until I reach the goal of my build, whatever that is.
If you want to try it out, there's an arcade game in Zenless Zone Zero that is basically Brotato but the characters and companions have some really cool passives that makes it stand out. You could just skip the story until you unlock the arcade👍
@@Omega_Rex_8 he doesn't have to play it for that long to unlock the arcade and you can skip almost everything story related and dex usually tries out games like brotato
I think the best option is to play until like wave 30, because at 20 it usually feels like the build hasn't truly come online yet. By wave 30 we can usually tell if you're outscaling the enemies or not, so it feels like there's a nice ending for the run.
Dex, in regards to if you should do endless or not, my suggestion is can you mod the game to increase the scaling of the mobs past wave 20? It'd be interesting if hitting a new further wave in endless meant something. Imagine if for example hitting wave 28 was an achievement and exciting as it's nearing your all time high of wave 30 you got on an overpowered build. I don't know if it's possible to add in a mod like this but it would make things really interesting, cut down the number of waves you skip and also make getting further in waves more impactful.
How about that in regards to the endless mode: if its foreseeable that it would just fizzle out at wave 40 to 50, just stop at 20. If it has the potential to be completely broken like the demon one, see how far you can take it.
Would like to see a video where you have an auto clicker to accept all crates maybe and continue to the next round and see how far you get after a good nights rest :P
I always prefer going endless because its more fun to see the run's properly come online and go crazy after wave 20, but the main thing is to keep having fun, as others have said it isn't really fun to watch if you don't enjoy playing
in terms of the endless... I wish there was an option for like "just 20 more waves" every 20 waves instead of it being hard set to endless or 20. So, like, if you get a build you like you can push it a little further but not feel forced to keep playing it way after you are bored of it.
Yesterday I found good strategy - druid with flutes, he has like infinite damage scaling with all the fruits gaining you luck and cursed pearls converting luck into damage. Really fun and Also strong, if you don't oneshot enemies they simply fight for you.
druid's damage scaling is ridiculous but i hate how laggy playing druid can get in endless, i wish the poison fruits also just got drawn to you when you reach negative healing from consumables, having like 5000 fruits just laying there really just makes it chug
I enjoy watching how far a build can go, so I prefer the videos where you go into endless mode. I also think that in cases like today, where you out-scale the enemies, it is better to set a maximum wave that you will go to(like wave 50) and stop the video there.
Fairy is interesting with cursed items because in cursed builds I will often take items I normally wouldn't if it is cursed. +2 hp regen on tier 1 items and like a -1 hp regen on tier 4 items, but taking in regards to cursed especially with naval weapons or characters with curse buffs means you end up stacking tier 1 items even if they aren't optimal for the build because they are cursed.
I think the issue I have with Fairy is that either I need it and then it's good no matter what, or I don't need it cause I have enough damage/survivability and then looking at "what makes fairy good" redundant. It'd be a bit like evaluating how much armor an item gives when you're invulnerable
I like endless because it's always a challenge to try and get past wave 30-40 with a given build. There's always the hope that you find some combination that allows infinite.
What about to install a mod "Item selling" that way you can sell uncursed items later on and yah sell "Torture" too (that open up many new strategies and I think it balance too)
Seashell: "Every 2nd shot it has 3 extra projectiles." First shot: No bonus. Second shot: +3 Third shot: No. Fourth: +3 And so on and so forth. Looks like a lot more because you have six weapons.
Question for ya'll, how rare is it to get a Legendary Weapon with negative luck on Wave 17? The weapon in question has similar properties to that of my character's weapon(Thief Dagger), so it's likely less rare when given, but still. How rare is that?
There is a mod that lets you recycle items, not just weapons. I suggest using it to delete some items after you get bored with a run, destroying some synergies etc. to see how far you need to go to actually loose.
At least what i do is make the choices i need to make to been r20 (at least for my first wins), which means sometimes i need to take shackles, ball and chain, or handcuffs and sometimes it means I can skip those. If a run is fun I take it into endless and if one of those items hampers the progress, that's okay. Just play in the way that is fun for you though.
they should update the endless mode, not in an infinte damage enemies but to make it more dynamic, maybe change some mechanics or combine bosses abilities and health, they should also tweak a bit of the curse system, because it really is very op, like the added damage the enemies do isn't really proportional to the power we gain
So weapons automatically stagger their attacks in this game. Which leads to a constant stream of attacks instead of a burst of attacks like the start of a wave, this is why you only see a stream of shotgun style shots when you take seashell.
To answer your question, I think you should turn off endless and play until Wave 20, and if you think you have a good build or a silly idea, you can than choose if you go endless or not.
@DexTag Instead of uploading one video you could upload two, one going to wave twenty and the other going endless with a less edited longer video of you just chatting more. This will also help you see how many like endless over the classic waves on certain characters and play styles.
Hey dex if you want to limit test your pc build gardens and get that item that scales konstrukt attackspeed, with your attack speed, and stack it until your pc crashes mine held on for dear life until wave 63
Das ist krass. Ich habs leider nur bis Welle 39 geschafft, weil ich nicht an die 1000 Damage pro Zepter kam und mich das Excalibur mit knapp 27.000 Schadem dann in Welle 39 leider auch nicht mehr retten konnte. Max HP hatte ich nebenbei so um die 2000. Ich frage mich nur, wie kommt man auf so ultra krasse Werte um Welle 40 herum? Bei dir ist ja fast alles im 1000er Bereich. 🤔 Edit: Hier meine Werte mit welchen ich in Welle 39 scheiterte: Current Level 43 Curse 266 Max HP 2012 HP Regeneration 195 % Life Steal 108 % Damage 517 Melee Damage 58 Ranged Damage 46 Elemental Damage 2 % Attack Speed 329 % Crit Chance 99 Engineering 110 Range 149 Armor 19 % Dodge 105 % Speed 58 Luck 254 Hervesting 4 Max Damage eines Zepters lag bei irgendwas um die 970. Es waren alle halbwegs gut verflucht. Trotz der im Vergleich zu dir niedrigen Werte habe ich es immerhin fast bis Welle 40 geschafft und war damit vermutlich auch gar nicht so schlecht. Also mein Skill ist offenbar ganz gut geworden. Wenn ich wüsste, wie man solch hohen Werte erzielt, würde ich es damit sicherlich bis Welle 100 schaffen. Ich vermute aber, dass du da wohl irgendeine Mod benutzt, um so krasse Werte zu bekommen. Würde zumindest Sinn machen, wenn man krasse Runs für TH-cam produzieren will.
just keep playing until you're bored. The video isnt really fun to watch if you're no longer having fun.
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I love that you explain the most things you do. It makes your videos extremly intresting PLUS I can find my own ideas what to combine, especially while playing with my wife.
I had to read this a few times because I was wondering what the wife you referred was that Dex was playing with untill I realized you meant yourself lol. (thought the wife might be some sort of item or weapon)
There's a creator called Cephalopocalypse. He has a video on every single character is this format. If you're interested ofc.
In regards to your question Dex... I think if you're doing a detailed guide just to "win" level 20 is enough but, if you're doing a fun run for yourself, endless is better. They are 2 different games it feels like so the strategy can change quite substantially with items that cut your scaling for early benefits if you're only planning on a level 20 run. Anyway, whatever you decide works for me, love your content :).
Ah yes...the classic combination of torture and gardens
Its so you Always attract fruits With the hot sauce
It's almost like you didn't watch the video past the 28-minute mark.
@Turamwdd its almost as i read the comments earlier while watching and ge apparently also didnt
Dex.. I love the endless videos, but I would call it once your done playing and not laughing and enjoying it. Once you reach that as you did in this video its good to call it game over. I just love listening to your commentary you have throughout while im playing the game as well or catching some of the luck you get not dying with a miracle dodge
Bosses: Defeated in 5 seconds
Dex: Wow, they survived for a really long time 😂😂😂
Junge du bist einfach der Dodge God! Nachdem du den ersten Köder gekauft hast wäre ich safe weg gewesen xD Wie immer ein super Video!
Das ist so geil. Die ganze Zeit Englisch und dann das "alter Schwede" 😂
I think going into endless is only worth if you have a build idea, but it's not quite there yet. Or to limit test how far you can go.
As long as you're having fun with the game, and you're happy with the video. We will watch. Endless or not.
I honestly like going endless, since some builds pop off only after wave 20. So I am more than fine with you going endless every time!
But I also love that you somehow always know when to stop and cut it. I think you're doing perfect right now :)
Honestly, the best thing you can give us is your laugh whenever you get something broken, unezpected or a stupidly cursed item, so whenever a run bores you i'd say just stop playing it
btw dex they fixed the spyglasses so u can no longer get money from rerolling, also I somehow got a 53% reduced reroll price on one of them and I didn't even know it could go that high
Provided the highest for cursed objects is really at 2.1x the maximum should be 52.5% for the spyglass. In many Situations it rounds up, like with dangerous bunny and black flag being at 3 for materials gained or free rerolls, so i'd guess this is what's going on here.
Can you still roll infinitely though?
@@kratix0469 sadly no
the reroll price was still going up and I had one that was 51% and another that was 53% so I had a 104% reduced reroll price and it still went up
@Dex I just wanted to say that bounces half their damage after every bounce. meaning that if your first hit is 100 damage, the next is 50. Because of this, even having 5 bounces means the last shot is only dealing 3 damage. Because of this, I don't take too many ricochets, unless they are cursed, which has a lesser damage penalty.
The abyss is so much more fun than the crash site. The corrupted items really give something new to the builds.
Armor scaling does matter it can actually break the game. Once your money HP nicely outscales your Ghost Scepter HP swap to potato gun for nice damage, then you need to get cursed stone skin. Since armor is typically low on demon runs, if you find an axolotl to switch your HP and armor, it actually doubles your HP
@@EliDontDoIt swapper 700hp for 20 armor, 98% damage reduction! achived 99% reduction on 1k armor, potato guns and just click "next wave" when got bored
@@MikhailKoshelev I did a modded Demon run and ended up with 50,000 HP and 24k armor. The thing said 100% damage reduction but it was probably like 99.98% and just rounding up. I can get that number higher with the new cursed characters mod.
Remember. Pearl have chance to get EXTRA pearls in crates. So insead of a random item, you chave chance for same item + pearl as bonus. Just awesome free damage tbh (as long as you don't have negative luck) Btw. Loving you videos Dex. ^_^
From this video you earned a subscriber keep doing it because you are doing good my G
I think asking your audience if they want endless might be just measuring the trap effect of, "Yes, more = better" where viewers are always going to say they want more, but aren't aware of how much work goes into the videos and don't realize that they could probably have two or even three times as many videos if they didn't go endless.
My mum: Think about what you've done!
Dex: Think about what I've done!
Sometimes I think “dex is so lucky!” Then I remember this is most likely not his first run of the day.
34:27 Yes, it counts every weapon individually.
As I explained in the last video, the difference is hard to see due to the high attack speed, but it is there.
13:12 eyes can actually crit
Once you hit round 20 if you feel like you wanna stop then stop or if you think it’ll be super broken once you hit 20 keep it going
I want you to do more fun runs like doing random combos with weapons!!
Wie du manchmal einfach deutsch redest so geil😂
Opening youtube as I finished my first run with demon in brotato dlc to see this, sensational
I love endless runs. The Scaling is where it’s at.
The "Alter Schwede" in between wave 7 gives me those silly german vibes hahaha
such a nervenkitzel ;D ich liebe das deutsche englich einfach der beste akzent ;;D
Now that the game got an insane amount of new items and weapons, a build can be only half done before you reach wave 20. You might not even get six red weapons yet, let alone six cursed ones or any legendaries.
So all my runs are now endless by default. That being said, an "endless" run doesn't necessary have to mean "keep going for as long as possible until you can't continue anymore", I just don't stop at wave 20 any longer.
My current modus operandi is to keep going until I reach the goal of my build, whatever that is.
If you want to try it out, there's an arcade game in Zenless Zone Zero that is basically Brotato but the characters and companions have some really cool passives that makes it stand out. You could just skip the story until you unlock the arcade👍
not something dex would enjoy
not the Hoyoverse 😭
Not a good suggestion.
I don't think someone would play a gacha game just for a mini game
@@Omega_Rex_8 he doesn't have to play it for that long to unlock the arcade and you can skip almost everything story related and dex usually tries out games like brotato
Dex needs a manscape sponsorship. Talks about balls a lot and has so many segues for their produt.
I think the best option is to play until like wave 30, because at 20 it usually feels like the build hasn't truly come online yet. By wave 30 we can usually tell if you're outscaling the enemies or not, so it feels like there's a nice ending for the run.
23:50 oh hey there’s a bo- oh.
Ok. 🤣
28:23 Alright time fo- GAHDAMMIT 😂
36:50 Yo- GAH 🤣
Dex, in regards to if you should do endless or not, my suggestion is can you mod the game to increase the scaling of the mobs past wave 20? It'd be interesting if hitting a new further wave in endless meant something. Imagine if for example hitting wave 28 was an achievement and exciting as it's nearing your all time high of wave 30 you got on an overpowered build.
I don't know if it's possible to add in a mod like this but it would make things really interesting, cut down the number of waves you skip and also make getting further in waves more impactful.
I like endless cause then the video is longer, so I get to listen to your voice more.
I know I’m late but I think endless to at least lvl 25/30 is great because sometimes the run goes from 0 to 1000 in endless and that’s really fun
This guy is living on the edge. xD (Wave 6)
That demon is indeed borken
Yes it's worth going endless that's when the fun* starts (*while watching)
How about that in regards to the endless mode: if its foreseeable that it would just fizzle out at wave 40 to 50, just stop at 20.
If it has the potential to be completely broken like the demon one, see how far you can take it.
Would like to see a video where you have an auto clicker to accept all crates maybe and continue to the next round and see how far you get after a good nights rest :P
To be honest, i only watch because you go endless, see how you fill the screen with random things is way too good
Regarding swapping the last two digits: Is German a language that uses a "5 and 70" construction?
I always prefer going endless because its more fun to see the run's properly come online and go crazy after wave 20, but the main thing is to keep having fun, as others have said it isn't really fun to watch if you don't enjoy playing
God, i love brotato
in terms of the endless... I wish there was an option for like "just 20 more waves" every 20 waves instead of it being hard set to endless or 20. So, like, if you get a build you like you can push it a little further but not feel forced to keep playing it way after you are bored of it.
Yesterday I found good strategy - druid with flutes, he has like infinite damage scaling with all the fruits gaining you luck and cursed pearls converting luck into damage. Really fun and Also strong, if you don't oneshot enemies they simply fight for you.
druid's damage scaling is ridiculous but i hate how laggy playing druid can get in endless, i wish the poison fruits also just got drawn to you when you reach negative healing from consumables, having like 5000 fruits just laying there really just makes it chug
7:34 🗣️😵💫Alter Schwede
Mmmm yes I LOVE BORKEN RUNS
Does the 2 cursed spyglasses still work for infinite money?
Good question I also would like to know
I don’t know how old are you but your mechanics impress me every time…
i am beginning to believe that wave 7 has a mandatory single walrus.
24:16 same. Probably because german way of pronounciation is last digit before second to last one for some reason.
Once you're past wave 12/13 the hardest parts is over
I feel like on endless it's still fun to see the last waves to see the max build
hwo you can add more option in this game ? changing the explosion vis. etc, i don't find any mods for this
I would say crazy challenges like the blindfold one go for wave 20. Mad build ideas see how far they go.
yeee go endless always to see how strong it can get
keep up the good job
I enjoy watching how far a build can go, so I prefer the videos where you go into endless mode. I also think that in cases like today, where you out-scale the enemies, it is better to set a maximum wave that you will go to(like wave 50) and stop the video there.
Fairy is interesting with cursed items because in cursed builds I will often take items I normally wouldn't if it is cursed. +2 hp regen on tier 1 items and like a -1 hp regen on tier 4 items, but taking in regards to cursed especially with naval weapons or characters with curse buffs means you end up stacking tier 1 items even if they aren't optimal for the build because they are cursed.
I think the issue I have with Fairy is that either I need it and then it's good no matter what, or I don't need it cause I have enough damage/survivability and then looking at "what makes fairy good" redundant. It'd be a bit like evaluating how much armor an item gives when you're invulnerable
"We can't be more extreme than the maximum." -Dex
Perhaps you can mark on the video where it hits 20?
I like endless because it's always a challenge to try and get past wave 30-40 with a given build. There's always the hope that you find some combination that allows infinite.
33:36 screw recursing items, give us the ability to sell items not just weapons
Do a vid where u use the scythe
Im very tempted to get the M4 Mac Mini if the iPadOS version is supported on MacOS, then get an OLED 240Hz monitor for those sweet 50+ waves
What about to install a mod "Item selling" that way you can sell uncursed items later on and yah sell "Torture" too (that open up many new strategies and I think it balance too)
Ist der koop eigentlich nur lokal oder auch online spielbar ?
44:10 i can't belive Dex jr not beliving in Dex for the run smh head
Seashell:
"Every 2nd shot it has 3 extra projectiles."
First shot: No bonus.
Second shot: +3
Third shot: No.
Fourth: +3
And so on and so forth.
Looks like a lot more because you have six weapons.
Who else were waiting for cursed demon run😈
Unless somehting changed from the pre-DLC version, eyes can crit!
When the dlc and patch put for PS5?
Question for ya'll, how rare is it to get a Legendary Weapon with negative luck on Wave 17? The weapon in question has similar properties to that of my character's weapon(Thief Dagger), so it's likely less rare when given, but still. How rare is that?
There is a mod that lets you recycle items, not just weapons. I suggest using it to delete some items after you get bored with a run, destroying some synergies etc. to see how far you need to go to actually loose.
At least what i do is make the choices i need to make to been r20 (at least for my first wins), which means sometimes i need to take shackles, ball and chain, or handcuffs and sometimes it means I can skip those. If a run is fun I take it into endless and if one of those items hampers the progress, that's okay.
Just play in the way that is fun for you though.
Lesgoo 🎉🎉 demon hp
they should update the endless mode, not in an infinte damage enemies but to make it more dynamic, maybe change some mechanics or combine bosses abilities and health, they should also tweak a bit of the curse system, because it really is very op, like the added damage the enemies do isn't really proportional to the power we gain
Sounds like you're saying "Alter Schwede". @Dex. Afraid of tall swedes?
Didnt watch the Video yet, but did a run 3 days ago where i broke my endlesss record with wave 79
So weapons automatically stagger their attacks in this game. Which leads to a constant stream of attacks instead of a burst of attacks like the start of a wave, this is why you only see a stream of shotgun style shots when you take seashell.
W new vid
Dex ending a run because it was too good be likeeeee
27:23
Made me chuckle.
To answer your question, I think you should turn off endless and play until Wave 20, and if you think you have a good build or a silly idea, you can than choose if you go endless or not.
we need a dex autism compilation with no contrxt
farmer with a cursed tracktor or a few, plus cursed crown is a dream, should try that. (or entrepreneur)
8:09 you should've locked padding instead of taking it immediately
to let the hook curse it
Nah, Paddington doesn't really matter for the guy. The main HP scaling (later) comes from recycling items
@DexTag Instead of uploading one video you could upload two, one going to wave twenty and the other going endless with a less edited longer video of you just chatting more. This will also help you see how many like endless over the classic waves on certain characters and play styles.
Hey dex if you want to limit test your pc build gardens and get that item that scales konstrukt attackspeed, with your attack speed, and stack it until your pc crashes mine held on for dear life until wave 63
Im a bit lost here. He took the HP cap item but was still looking for 5 kill staffs?
Ive liked the endless but I understand stopping at the point were its super laggy
endless is for interesting weapons/strats
casually with 21 bounces
Endless until time ends. Lol.
DEMON HEALTH DEMON HEALTH DEMON HEALTH
Das ist krass. Ich habs leider nur bis Welle 39 geschafft, weil ich nicht an die 1000 Damage pro Zepter kam und mich das Excalibur mit knapp 27.000 Schadem dann in Welle 39 leider auch nicht mehr retten konnte. Max HP hatte ich nebenbei so um die 2000. Ich frage mich nur, wie kommt man auf so ultra krasse Werte um Welle 40 herum? Bei dir ist ja fast alles im 1000er Bereich. 🤔
Edit: Hier meine Werte mit welchen ich in Welle 39 scheiterte:
Current Level 43
Curse 266
Max HP 2012
HP Regeneration 195
% Life Steal 108
% Damage 517
Melee Damage 58
Ranged Damage 46
Elemental Damage 2
% Attack Speed 329
% Crit Chance 99
Engineering 110
Range 149
Armor 19
% Dodge 105
% Speed 58
Luck 254
Hervesting 4
Max Damage eines Zepters lag bei irgendwas um die 970. Es waren alle halbwegs gut verflucht.
Trotz der im Vergleich zu dir niedrigen Werte habe ich es immerhin fast bis Welle 40 geschafft und war damit vermutlich auch gar nicht so schlecht. Also mein Skill ist offenbar ganz gut geworden. Wenn ich wüsste, wie man solch hohen Werte erzielt, würde ich es damit sicherlich bis Welle 100 schaffen. Ich vermute aber, dass du da wohl irgendeine Mod benutzt, um so krasse Werte zu bekommen. Würde zumindest Sinn machen, wenn man krasse Runs für TH-cam produzieren will.
I always enjoy endless
Lets dodge his balls 😂
I do love endless ❤