I've got smokey to Supreme+. He is very, very important. You will not regret getting him to mythic+ or higher rank. His kit is insance. Put him in every boss fight, and you will do 3x the damage. Smokey will make your afk stage, realm, guild, and world story mode easier to push with 99% win. Who wouldn't want a support tank,dps,buff.
Idk i just got him to mythic+ (first mythic+ hero for me) and actually wish I had gotten someone else. Sure he is not bad and can do some boss dmg but apart from that his mythic+ really only changes him once the fight is halfway over. At this point it is already decided in my experience and the mythic+ effect does not really make a difference anymore..
I totally agree with you on Vala. I got her to Mythic + because I got lucky on pulls and got a copy of her in the event. I find it quite strange that I've seen her not be very highly rated on tier lists. I've heard a few CCs say they're skipping her, that she's not that good. I think they're completely wrong. I actually upgraded her to Supreme she was so good at Mythic +. I don't get the Vala hate. I think she's fantastic.
Wilder A-Tier Hero problem becomes a realy anoing problem if you make the Mauler Heroes, who have the Problem in to Wilder Heroes. Still very nice and helpfull Tier List.
Get anyone you are choosing to play the game to supreme+ the difference in power and energy build up IS SOOOOOO important to alllllllllll the units you using 🙄 bonus passives/ abilities are just happy additions for some hero’s that’s all. If u wanna meta chase go for it but if u have units u plan to use to the end of the game rank them up as much as possible always.
I am free to play player vala main DPS i am Legendary 3 in Arena Rank and and insane damage in boss fight unlock every 180 level weapon and always in top Rank
im playing Lucius in combination with Toran and its absolutly Insane! I got both on mythic plus and they are a fantastic double tank Combo! The shield and revive just fits perfectly together
Putting both Bryon and Parisa in Don't Bother is insane lmfao. Bryon at M+ does absurd amounts of basic attk dmg and parisa increases his basic attk dmg % as well as his attk speed. Their synergy is insane and Bryon is 100% being slept on especially having a death immune mechanic on your carry.
He's definitely slept on but I don't think I'd warrant him on my wishlist over eironn. Maybe later. Florisa is definitely good but Carolina is just better in the meta comp
@@ExcoundrelRAID Oh agreed I'd definitely want Eironn over him for pvp but it also completely depends on the content. PvE I would definitely say Bryon over Eironn. I have both at M+ currently and Bryon dishes out unreal amounts of damage and can even purposely be the target of Vala in afk stages or arena to delay her executes with his death immunity. Eironn is really just there for cc / setup. So I feel like it's criminal to have Bryon in Don't Bother. Agreed on Carolina being better than Florisa though 100%
@@ExcoundrelRAID That's fair, I think most people haven't. I thought he looked cool so I figured I'd try him and the game decided to spam me with him and I haven't regretted it. He goes crazy once he gets his weapon lol. I'm sure Odie becomes better at that stage but I haven't gotten enough copies of him yet.
i have no cecia copies and decided to drop her for my legendary vala who will go mythic+ soon. should i get caroline instead? heard shes better late game
Parisa is better than Arden no cap. Buffs your main DPS carry and herself, debuffs enemies to deal less damage, does insane AoE damage. All Arden does is damage and he is super ultimate reliant. So like Damien is a must pick and it is really hard to choose between Lyca and Parisa for the other slot.
She is very hard to utilize in terms of maximizing her AOE and Linear attacks. She particularly needs enemies to be "Grouped Up". Else "manually" aim for those targets. Parisa's attack speed buff kinda competes with Lyca's buffs which are team wide, and has more utilities to offer, as a support.
@JMike-bq6rl it is called Eironn which is where Arden is used as well. Arden does not do any of the supportive things Parisa does. Lyca is used elsewhere in physical comps they do not compete with each other for a team slot. They do compete for a wishlist slot and tbf right now I have Lyca in that slot.
Fr playing honor duel I realize how strong Parisa is, she deals more damage than Arden too! The fact that she has burst damage instead of Arden slow DPS gives her extra points in my book.
Vala has way better utility and backline targeting but bryon is a specific counter to vala and other units that cc the back line. Again this is just my opinion
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wow, wasn't expecting to do this so soon. Thanks alot !!! for doing this video, it will help me and many more to decide who to keep till mythic+.
You're welcome!
I've got smokey to Supreme+. He is very, very important. You will not regret getting him to mythic+ or higher rank. His kit is insance. Put him in every boss fight, and you will do 3x the damage. Smokey will make your afk stage, realm, guild, and world story mode easier to push with 99% win. Who wouldn't want a support tank,dps,buff.
good info to be fair - I think he's VERY good pre Mythic anyway though!
yea I want to get his damage skill really bad
Idk i just got him to mythic+ (first mythic+ hero for me) and actually wish I had gotten someone else. Sure he is not bad and can do some boss dmg but apart from that his mythic+ really only changes him once the fight is halfway over. At this point it is already decided in my experience and the mythic+ effect does not really make a difference anymore..
Sure, I can get Smokey lol.
Almost 600 and only have 2 smokies.
the exact tier list I needed! wish I'd seen this sooner though but many thanks!
I totally agree with you on Vala. I got her to Mythic + because I got lucky on pulls and got a copy of her in the event. I find it quite strange that I've seen her not be very highly rated on tier lists. I've heard a few CCs say they're skipping her, that she's not that good. I think they're completely wrong. I actually upgraded her to Supreme she was so good at Mythic +. I don't get the Vala hate. I think she's fantastic.
i love Vala, the Mythic+ upgrade is so insane. She can basically carry the entire team DPS by herself at Mythic+
Nahh men, dps will easier to powercrep by gatcha game company. Already fall off by new limited banner. But still A tier
Wow, I remember you from vainglory. Glad to see you on afk journey 😊
Great list, very informative, and great voice👍
Wilder A-Tier Hero problem becomes a realy anoing problem if you make the Mauler Heroes, who have the Problem in to Wilder Heroes. Still very nice and helpfull Tier List.
The fact that natural Epic characters make to the top of the tier list is really F2P friendly !
Getting them ain't very f2p friendly u need a lot lot copies
New reason to watch Excoundrel🤙
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Get anyone you are choosing to play the game to supreme+ the difference in power and energy build up IS SOOOOOO important to alllllllllll the units you using 🙄 bonus passives/ abilities are just happy additions for some hero’s that’s all. If u wanna meta chase go for it but if u have units u plan to use to the end of the game rank them up as much as possible always.
This is super good advice
Loving the Rowan cut out, teehee. How can they forget my boi Rowan?? Thank you for making this video!
poor lil' Rowan!!
hello there! thanks for the wordeful advices!
Thank you! :P
Ohh you popped up in my recommended. I remember you from your Vainglory days!!
Made a new channel for this game I'm really loving it!
I hope they keep A-tier heroes relevant in the game :)
Also would be nice if they release new A and S tier heroes and not just S
Koko is fairy new and shes super good AND an A tier
I am free to play player vala main DPS i am Legendary 3 in Arena Rank and and insane damage in boss fight unlock every 180 level weapon and always in top Rank
the dmg on smokey is nice to have he out dmg my supreme+ cicia if she couldnt finish the fight befor he casts the bleue smoke
im playing Lucius in combination with Toran and its absolutly Insane! I got both on mythic plus and they are a fantastic double tank Combo! The shield and revive just fits perfectly together
Lucius is actually a good offtank but I wouldn't invest in him because there are better Lightbearer A-Tier wishlists
Heywen is insane at mythic+,basically if you don’t have her you lose every pvp in late game, so I think she deserves insane tier.
That's very fair - thanks for the info!
Anything used in Dream should be maxxed. Ascension adds more stats and improves survivability.
what about the 2 mouse heroes? they seem very strong
You need Cassadee at Supreme+ for that magic def down. You dont get that at Mythic+
Good catch yep that was a brain fart
What about niru? He does amazing damage, good healing and can block healing on supreme but lacks survivability
Hey you said there's a lot of good wilders, but you put all of the S wilders in mid tier. Can you advise which is the best 2?
Brutus and Smokey s tier, a tier odie and koko or antandra!
@@ExcoundrelRAID He said Wilder not Maulers brother😂
S tier: Eironn + Hewynn, A tier: Damian + Arden/Lyca
protect a particular carrot
Putting both Bryon and Parisa in Don't Bother is insane lmfao. Bryon at M+ does absurd amounts of basic attk dmg and parisa increases his basic attk dmg % as well as his attk speed. Their synergy is insane and Bryon is 100% being slept on especially having a death immune mechanic on your carry.
He's definitely slept on but I don't think I'd warrant him on my wishlist over eironn. Maybe later. Florisa is definitely good but Carolina is just better in the meta comp
@@ExcoundrelRAID Oh agreed I'd definitely want Eironn over him for pvp but it also completely depends on the content. PvE I would definitely say Bryon over Eironn. I have both at M+ currently and Bryon dishes out unreal amounts of damage and can even purposely be the target of Vala in afk stages or arena to delay her executes with his death immunity. Eironn is really just there for cc / setup. So I feel like it's criminal to have Bryon in Don't Bother. Agreed on Carolina being better than Florisa though 100%
@jrocch29 yeah I could have moved him up slightly tbf haha. Maybe just haven't played enough with him yet
@@ExcoundrelRAID That's fair, I think most people haven't. I thought he looked cool so I figured I'd try him and the game decided to spam me with him and I haven't regretted it. He goes crazy once he gets his weapon lol. I'm sure Odie becomes better at that stage but I haven't gotten enough copies of him yet.
that rowan moment mate me cry xDDD
Just 1 off from Eironn mythic+ my account started with 2 somehow haha
Amazing
You keep saying wilder instead of mauler... kinda triggering, haha.
i have no cecia copies and decided to drop her for my legendary vala who will go mythic+ soon. should i get caroline instead? heard shes better late game
She's very good late game yeah but need her mythic plus
@@ExcoundrelRAID ok ty bb 😘
Should i get valla to mythic+ rn? I have 22k diamonds idk if i should save or get her copies
Only if you really want to pvp imo
Does this still hold up currently?
yep no major changes!
Parisa is better than Arden no cap. Buffs your main DPS carry and herself, debuffs enemies to deal less damage, does insane AoE damage. All Arden does is damage and he is super ultimate reliant. So like Damien is a must pick and it is really hard to choose between Lyca and Parisa for the other slot.
That's very fair actually I've just not seen her used lots in late game comps!
She is very hard to utilize in terms of maximizing her AOE and Linear attacks.
She particularly needs enemies to be "Grouped Up".
Else "manually" aim for those targets.
Parisa's attack speed buff kinda competes with Lyca's buffs which are team wide, and has more utilities to offer, as a support.
@JMike-bq6rl it is called Eironn which is where Arden is used as well. Arden does not do any of the supportive things Parisa does. Lyca is used elsewhere in physical comps they do not compete with each other for a team slot. They do compete for a wishlist slot and tbf right now I have Lyca in that slot.
@@ExcoundrelRAID people are sheep. They see Arden used in the cheese PvP team and write off other characters.
Fr playing honor duel I realize how strong Parisa is, she deals more damage than Arden too! The fact that she has burst damage instead of Arden slow DPS gives her extra points in my book.
Igor is a beast at mythic+
Yeah but he works we'll before that also imo!
@@ExcoundrelRAID I do agree and I just love using him + damian in pvp 😈
Real ones know u from vainglory
Meanwhile me, just use any character that i always have from gacha 😢
You always say Wilder instead of Mauler 😂
ffs my bad haha
Yea I stop watching when he put Bryon at don't bother...I have him Supreme and is out performing my supreme vala
Vala has way better utility and backline targeting but bryon is a specific counter to vala and other units that cc the back line. Again this is just my opinion
You’re the only guy who vouches for Bryon then lmao.
now make a supreme + and a +5 +10 ex weapon tierlist
I hate eiron he's useless every not pvp
1st comment again 😅
Legend!
Most A tier units are the best, kinda interesting