Hello this is pretty accurate I live and play in Oklahoma. You do need to let viewers know that that whole line of machines have the exact same card, and you Also need to include these numbers must hit within 39 balls in order to get a hit but other than that nice job explaining this
Thanks for the explanation. How do the casinos have control over the payout percentage in class 2 machines? Playing at Winstar over the years, there have definetly been times the casino was hitting and times it wasn’t.
Great [in-depth] explanation....whe I played next to u, Dave & Jode...I asked Dave "how do u guys know when u're gonna win?!?!" He gave me a crash course in reading the card....that was fun(especially hitting $240!)...wont make this nxt W'star trip...good luk, hope to catch u guys nxt time! Thnx for info...👍🎰🎲🎰
Thank you for the explanation and recommendations. I’m always wary of playing class 2 (I live in Dallas so go to Winstar and Choctaw frequently) because I don’t feel like they pay like the class 3s. But I don’t play the 3 and 5 reel games very often especially since they are few and far between for class 3. Now I understand a little better I may give them a shot the next time I go.
Samiam, you live in Washington? I was at Swinowmish Casino yesterday and I asked if they had class 3 machines and the technician insisted that, yes, there are both class 2 and class 3 machines at that casino. He said the difference is that the computer acts as the RNG. Have you heard this? I sent the question to Cowboy Slots (Brantley) but haven't heard back. Let me know if you heard anything about this. Okay? Thanks
Aaahhhh ok then so it's about memorizing the patterns and then making sure when those patterns do show up, that they are all yellow numbers below the bingo card!! Interesting
So if this is based on the game of bingo, is it advantageous as a player to play in off hours? Would it be better to play at 3am on a Tuesday or Wednesday morning vs a Friday or Saturday night?
It makes absolutely no differnce. It's bingo, but a very complex version of bingo. There is randomness in the bingo server in how it distributes the cards to the machines and the prizes available to win (which is the payback %).
A more in depth question (which I buried below n a comment that you might not have seen): So I sit down to a machine and just happen to get a new bingo game (only one white number). It so happens I don’t win anything. I spin again. The new card I get is tallied up against the same yellow numbers as last time, plus it fills up my card with the white numbers? Why does it keep drawing numbers if they don’t mean anything? A timing device for a new game?
It's a great question, here is the answer. By law, every bingo "call-out" has to result in SOMEONE getting a full card (which pays $0.01 in class 2 facilities) before the game can restart. A full card can happen with both YELLOW and WHITE numbers. But yes, the white numbers are pointless - I don't get why they cause the bingo card to highlight the numbers in yellow, because it means nothing when it comes to the patterns that pay.
@@GambleSmart aha! If you can get a blackout with the yellow and white numbers then I can see why they would highlight both. I know at one machine I was looking at the yellow numbers had a different colored font so if you looked CLOSE you could see the difference. That clears up a lot. Thank you guys soooo much! I’m now a subscriber. I really appreciate your content! Keep it coming. And hopefully I’ll see you guys up in Choctaw or Winstar sometime soon! Ok just read your response again. $.01 for a blackout? Yeah, I don’t care about the white numbers now 🤣
Class II games (and VLT and probably HHR) are designed to "feel" the same as the class III version. The RTP, hit rate, and volatility index will be very similar. An example class III penny game might have 4 RTP options from 85-93%, a volatility index (stdev * 1.645 for 90% confidence) of 12.2, and a hit rate of 31.5% while the class II might offer 5 RTP options from 84-95%, a volatility index of 12.1, and a hit rate of 31.8%. Bingo games can be slightly worse or slightly better than the class III version, but not noticeably in the short term. The biggest difference is that the class III version can have more possible pay possibilities. Free games on both might average 21.665*wager, but the theoretical range on the class II game will be from 0 to n * highest pay (where n is number of free games) while the entire range of the "free games" wins will be 10 * wager to 1000 * wager on the class II.
When the game begins, everyone gets the same yellow numbers in the callout. Then, it keeps calling numbers that are white. The white numbers are not elligable for a matching pattern, however, they do show up as yellow on the actual card.
So I sit down to a machine and just happen to get a new bingo game (only one white number). It so happens I don’t win anything. I spin again. The new card I get is tallied up against the same yellow numbers as last time, plus it fills up my card with the white numbers? Why does it keep drawing numbers if they don’t mean anything? A timing device for a new game?
It just seems like if a number is not qualified as it is white, then that should be white on the card, not yellow. Guess it's to make it harder to see what is going on?
what about skill base machines lone star skills pa skills how different are those i strongly believe credit amount give you edge like if i put $20 in play X4 its gone your not gonna hit but i put $200 at one time spin on X4 i know ill get a bonus before i pass $80 of the $200 i also notice the illusion im not sure but when you put in say $10 you here ticking or cranking but its only a few clicks like its taking the money somewhere if you stick 100 it cranks way longer when we both know it dosent go nowhere its just a box holding cash so why make any noise at all i know skill machines were band in Vegas hard to compete against a game you can see the next puzzle on idk but gambling is taking over America fast that and the use of AI technology over all is the amout of credit at one time better then say 20 at a time like you can put $700 at once play the highst domination say X4 your gonna do well you could plan to only spin $160 but dont put just $160 put the $700 all in spin the $160 dont be afraid to put a mass amount in just be smart enough to you can pull out when you hit what you planned on spinning dont be afraid to risk it for the biscuit if you wanna do $100 play x1 $200+ play on 2x 3x or 4x they are programed rng yes but the reel behind isnt rng it picks out of a selection and after a number of spinsthere is a win rather its 10 , 15, its placed you just have to have the credits to get there
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Hello this is pretty accurate I live and play in Oklahoma. You do need to let viewers know that that whole line of machines have the exact same card, and you Also need to include these numbers must hit within 39 balls in order to get a hit but other than that nice job explaining this
Thank you for explaining this. I've never seen a class 2 machine, but if I do, I understand it so much better. Thank you, Marc!😊
This is my favorite video yet! I have been playing class 2 machines for years and didn't know some of this info. Thanks so much!!!
Thank you so much mark and Dave! We are going this weekend to Buffalo run and downstream. Go often, they have class 2 and class 3.
Thank you so much for this video. I live in Oklahoma and this helps a lot!!!
glad it helps! thank you for watching !
Good job! Marc. Next one should should be ohio vlt machines
Thanks for the explanation. How do the casinos have control over the payout percentage in class 2 machines? Playing at Winstar over the years, there have definetly been times the casino was hitting and times it wasn’t.
Thank you see you tomorrow
Very helpful info.
Thank you! These type of slot machines are what I tend to see in Washington state, Ilani Casino. Thanks again
You’re very welcome. Thanks for watching.
Great [in-depth] explanation....whe I played next to u, Dave & Jode...I asked Dave "how do u guys know when u're gonna win?!?!" He gave me a crash course in reading the card....that was fun(especially hitting $240!)...wont make this nxt W'star trip...good luk, hope to catch u guys nxt time! Thnx for info...👍🎰🎲🎰
You are on a roll Joe! one win is a roll :) there is no magic , just knowing which pattern is possible with the given card.
Thank you for the explanation and recommendations. I’m always wary of playing class 2 (I live in Dallas so go to Winstar and Choctaw frequently) because I don’t feel like they pay like the class 3s. But I don’t play the 3 and 5 reel games very often especially since they are few and far between for class 3. Now I understand a little better I may give them a shot the next time I go.
Look for the 3 reel 5 payline games. Those are our favorite and we tend to do well on them.
I've done ok on the Washington class 2 "scratch ticket" machines
Samiam, you live in Washington? I was at Swinowmish Casino yesterday and I asked if they had class 3 machines and the technician insisted that, yes, there are both class 2 and class 3 machines at that casino. He said the difference is that the computer acts as the RNG. Have you heard this? I sent the question to Cowboy Slots (Brantley) but haven't heard back. Let me know if you heard anything about this. Okay? Thanks
We will answer this in an upcoming Viewer Question!
i won a 6400 jackpot on one
you have to be interactive skill base can you talk about pa skills and lone star skills and explain the story why they took the game away
Are there bingo machines that are not playing against other players? I’ve heard that can be the case at Washington tribal casinos.
Aaahhhh ok then so it's about memorizing the patterns and then making sure when those patterns do show up, that they are all yellow numbers below the bingo card!! Interesting
So if this is based on the game of bingo, is it advantageous as a player to play in off hours? Would it be better to play at 3am on a Tuesday or Wednesday morning vs a Friday or Saturday night?
It makes absolutely no differnce. It's bingo, but a very complex version of bingo. There is randomness in the bingo server in how it distributes the cards to the machines and the prizes available to win (which is the payback %).
If there is no right or wrong way to play why even watch the bingo card? It seems to be like a bonus round which could happen or not.
What about 3 reel 9 credit machines or $.25 denom but you can bet up to 25 credits?
Just as good, you’re just betting more. We typically like to stay with the 3 reel 1 or 5 payline or the 5 reel 9 payline
What about games that allow you to change the bingo card?
Doesn’t give you any advantage :)
A more in depth question (which I buried below n a comment that you might not have seen): So I sit down to a machine and just happen to get a new bingo game (only one white number). It so happens I don’t win anything. I spin again. The new card I get is tallied up against the same yellow numbers as last time, plus it fills up my card with the white numbers? Why does it keep drawing numbers if they don’t mean anything? A timing device for a new game?
It's a great question, here is the answer. By law, every bingo "call-out" has to result in SOMEONE getting a full card (which pays $0.01 in class 2 facilities) before the game can restart. A full card can happen with both YELLOW and WHITE numbers. But yes, the white numbers are pointless - I don't get why they cause the bingo card to highlight the numbers in yellow, because it means nothing when it comes to the patterns that pay.
@@GambleSmart aha! If you can get a blackout with the yellow and white numbers then I can see why they would highlight both. I know at one machine I was looking at the yellow numbers had a different colored font so if you looked CLOSE you could see the difference. That clears up a lot. Thank you guys soooo much! I’m now a subscriber. I really appreciate your content! Keep it coming. And hopefully I’ll see you guys up in Choctaw or Winstar sometime soon!
Ok just read your response again. $.01 for a blackout? Yeah, I don’t care about the white numbers now 🤣
Hi Marc.
Technically, every game has some volatility. I would assume the difference is that Class 2 games will have volatility identical to bingo itself.
Very true. But, I didn’t want people to compare it to how we speak of volatility with slot machines because it is different.
Class II games (and VLT and probably HHR) are designed to "feel" the same as the class III version. The RTP, hit rate, and volatility index will be very similar. An example class III penny game might have 4 RTP options from 85-93%, a volatility index (stdev * 1.645 for 90% confidence) of 12.2, and a hit rate of 31.5% while the class II might offer 5 RTP options from 84-95%, a volatility index of 12.1, and a hit rate of 31.8%. Bingo games can be slightly worse or slightly better than the class III version, but not noticeably in the short term. The biggest difference is that the class III version can have more possible pay possibilities. Free games on both might average 21.665*wager, but the theoretical range on the class II game will be from 0 to n * highest pay (where n is number of free games) while the entire range of the "free games" wins will be 10 * wager to 1000 * wager on the class II.
Could you explain why some numbers on the ‘bingo callout’ are ineligible?
When the game begins, everyone gets the same yellow numbers in the callout. Then, it keeps calling numbers that are white. The white numbers are not elligable for a matching pattern, however, they do show up as yellow on the actual card.
So I sit down to a machine and just happen to get a new bingo game (only one white number). It so happens I don’t win anything. I spin again. The new card I get is tallied up against the same yellow numbers as last time, plus it fills up my card with the white numbers? Why does it keep drawing numbers if they don’t mean anything? A timing device for a new game?
So when i keep changing my bingo card I"ve actually made my chances to hit harder ?
No - changing the card is just an illusion, makes no difference in the outcome of the game.
Did someone win the giveaway
We will announce on live show tomorrow.
It just seems like if a number is not qualified as it is white, then that should be white on the card, not yellow. Guess it's to make it harder to see what is going on?
Yeah, we agree - Not sure why they do that :)
what about skill base machines lone star skills pa skills how different are those i strongly believe credit amount give you edge like if i put $20 in play X4 its gone your not gonna hit but i put $200 at one time spin on X4 i know ill get a bonus before i pass $80 of the $200 i also notice the illusion im not sure but when you put in say $10 you here ticking or cranking but its only a few clicks like its taking the money somewhere if you stick 100 it cranks way longer when we both know it dosent go nowhere its just a box holding cash so why make any noise at all i know skill machines were band in Vegas hard to compete against a game you can see the next puzzle on idk but gambling is taking over America fast that and the use of AI technology over all is the amout of credit at one time better then say 20 at a time like you can put $700 at once play the highst domination say X4 your gonna do well you could plan to only spin $160 but dont put just $160 put the $700 all in spin the $160 dont be afraid to put a mass amount in just be smart enough to you can pull out when you hit what you planned on spinning dont be afraid to risk it for the biscuit if you wanna do $100 play x1 $200+ play on 2x 3x or 4x they are programed rng yes but the reel behind isnt rng it picks out of a selection and after a number of spinsthere is a win rather its 10 , 15, its placed you just have to have the credits to get there