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Yes is is, or, rather WAS- In recent years (say, post Crimea annexation as a rough approximation and appropriate geopolitical marker), it has began to become more and more conventional and accepted, entering the lexicon in roughly the same manner and at the same pace as rhe original 'cold war', 'first/second/third world', 'red/blue' (related to red/white, perhaps?), etc, nomenclature did during the (now relevant descriptive term re: the 'first cold war'.). It WAS 'loaded', but, now, and increasingly in the future it will be, IMHO, a useful, generally accepted, and conventional term... Unless, that is, it goes hot! (And there are different conflicts denominated by the term- is it just 'East v West'? ...Or is it as Ideologically descriptive as the original, or Russia Vs USA/NATO, or China vs. WestPac democracy's alliances, or some nebulous combination of any or some or all of the aforementioned combinations? Maybe it's just that kind of a paradigmatic catch-all for a complicated and complex set of modern geopolitical conflicts- not necessarily as close to war as the first cold war, and nowhere near as well-defined.... Sry for rambling... Thoughts?
@@bholdr----0 Only the one who first came up with the term knows what he exactly meant. I'm a strong opponent of using such terms. For example the term "west" if not used strictly as a relative point in geographical sense, 100 people equals 100 different meanings.
@@matovicmmilan Yet, despite that there may be 100 people with different meanings... Words and terms do have meanings. 'The Second Cold War' does have a meaning as a term, relativistic etymological nihilism aside.
Technically speaking second one was over with USSR's disintegration. Second CW started after Sino Soviet split that's when West started shifting factories to China. Here it was Warsaw Pact vs West & China There is a reason why Russia China border is heavily guarded even today
Technically speaking second one was over with USSR's disintegration. Second CW started after Sino Soviet split that's when West started shifting factories to China. Here it was Warsaw Pact vs West & China There is a reason why Russia China border is heavily guarded even today.
Have such a love for the BTR60 and BTR80 and the MTLB APCs. I heard many of the yards in Russia have no MTLBs left because of losses in Ukraine and the MTLB hasn't been produced in a very long time. Interesting and ironically the MTLB was a Ukrainian design. At least some of the US owned ones for "op for" training purposes will most likely end up in collections or museums in the states for future viewing and hopefully in a driving state for exhibition.
It can mount ERA just fine - so long it's the ERA designed to go on lightly armoured surfaces. Very different from the stuff that goes on the front of MBTs.
Another wonderful video shared by an amazing ( weapon detective 🕵️♂️) channel...video about Soviets designed BTR-60 armor vehicles... video clearly explained all characteristics of several different versions ...it's widely expanded during the Cold War years....
Look how cute it looks at the start: Big mouth, big eyes, big eyelashes and cute mouse ears. What a happy little BTR. It should get its own kids show, the Soviet answer to ‘Thomas the Tank Engine’ - ‘Boris the BTR’ 😎😂
Great desingn, but lighly armored. We talked these as better coffins because army test close range BTR 60/80 were just like cheese. PKM easily punctured the side armour. Russian steel? Not good so soon it was changed to BMP's
Do USSR decided to produce the cheapest and the least advanced APC. Victor Suvorov in one od his books, probably "Soldiers of freedom" described how piór this vehicles was in realiity
Резун пишет фантастику. У БТР-60ПБ всего два недостатка. Он не может ехать по полю боя на одном двигателе. При посадке на ходу есть риск схватиться рукой за горячую выхлопную трубу. Для 60-70 годов он был хорош.
APCs (all of them, everyone's) were a mistake designed for a nuclear war that was never fought. Their light weight and high mobility however coerce their use in direct combat because when there are no IFV they're the only option. Between the US M113 and the BTR families the APC concept has resulted in many troop losses. The concept of a front line backed by "safe" rear areas has been obsolete since the 1960s. At least M113 has a rear ramp but the best place for either is far from their usual locations where they're easily destroyed. Interestingly both Russian and US troops often rode desant (M113 most commonly in Southeast Asia) because it's better to be blown a way than burn inside.
Romanian TAB-71 is more a BTR-70 modernized not a BTR-60. First of all has the same armor like BTR-70, better than BTR-60 and the same doors between 2 and 3 wheels like BTR-70. Has extra periscopes on the sides and turret has a special sight easy recognizable on the left side, for engaging helicopters. Both machine guns can be elevated to 85 degrees instead of 30, which is good in urban fighting. Has only one diesel engine, instead of 2 gasoline engines.
The TAB-77 is based on the BTR-70. The TAB-71 has the same door arrangement as the BTR-60, not the BTR-70. you can see it in the video. And the TAB-71 does not have a diesel engine. It is equipped with two petrol engines, which are just more powerful than the BTR-60.
BTR-60 doesn't even exist in War Thunder, it's the BTR-80A that is in War Thunder, 30mm APDS and a very high top speed and scouting abilities make it a very annoying vehicle to face against
Сompare with OT-64 realy scrab metall.BTR-70 even worst with door under waterline.BTR-80 development of scrab metall.Same with BTR-82.Russians always late 25-30 years of development.
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"The first Cold War" Bro, that's a LOADED statement. 😂😂😂
Yes is is, or, rather WAS- In recent years (say, post Crimea annexation as a rough approximation and appropriate geopolitical marker), it has began to become more and more conventional and accepted, entering the lexicon in roughly the same manner and at the same pace as rhe original 'cold war', 'first/second/third world', 'red/blue' (related to red/white, perhaps?), etc, nomenclature did during the (now relevant descriptive term re: the 'first cold war'.).
It WAS 'loaded', but, now, and increasingly in the future it will be, IMHO, a useful, generally accepted, and conventional term... Unless, that is, it goes hot!
(And there are different conflicts denominated by the term- is it just 'East v West'? ...Or is it as Ideologically descriptive as the original, or Russia Vs USA/NATO, or China vs. WestPac democracy's alliances, or some nebulous combination of any or some or all of the aforementioned combinations? Maybe it's just that kind of a paradigmatic catch-all for a complicated and complex set of modern geopolitical conflicts- not necessarily as close to war as the first cold war, and nowhere near as well-defined....
Sry for rambling... Thoughts?
@@bholdr----0
Only the one who first came up with the term knows what he exactly meant. I'm a strong opponent of using such terms. For example the term "west" if not used strictly as a relative point in geographical sense, 100 people equals 100 different meanings.
@@matovicmmilan
Yet, despite that there may be 100 people with different meanings... Words and terms do have meanings.
'The Second Cold War' does have a meaning as a term, relativistic etymological nihilism aside.
and %100 accurate.
Technically speaking second one was over with USSR's disintegration.
Second CW started after Sino Soviet split that's when West started shifting factories to China.
Here it was Warsaw Pact vs West & China
There is a reason why Russia China border is heavily guarded even today
First cold war? There's a second now!?!?!?!?!?
Yes
You’re living in it
Yeah
You live under a rock, don't you ?
Technically speaking second one was over with USSR's disintegration.
Second CW started after Sino Soviet split that's when West started shifting factories to China.
Here it was Warsaw Pact vs West & China
There is a reason why Russia China border is heavily guarded even today.
The cuban variants are gorgeous and ingenious. Love them!
Have such a love for the BTR60 and BTR80 and the MTLB APCs.
I heard many of the yards in Russia have no MTLBs left because of losses in Ukraine and the MTLB hasn't been produced in a very long time. Interesting and ironically the MTLB was a Ukrainian design. At least some of the US owned ones for "op for" training purposes will most likely end up in collections or museums in the states for future viewing and hopefully in a driving state for exhibition.
I am very worried that you called it the "First Cold War" o_O
Wolisz trzecia swiatowa?
The BTR's armor is too light to mount ERA no?
As far as i know you nead about 30mm of armor to use contact 1 there are era Variants for apc's
It could cause a massive degradation of steel and of course bending the armor... could crack at worst... for that kind of armor they have
Is this the origin of the phrase "go out with a bang"? :p
It can mount ERA just fine - so long it's the ERA designed to go on lightly armoured surfaces. Very different from the stuff that goes on the front of MBTs.
It could probably take the additional plate armour upgrade like the BRDM-2s in Russian service are getting.
Another wonderful video shared by an amazing ( weapon detective 🕵️♂️) channel...video about Soviets designed BTR-60 armor vehicles... video clearly explained all characteristics of several different versions ...it's widely expanded during the Cold War years....
Look how cute it looks at the start: Big mouth, big eyes, big eyelashes and cute mouse ears. What a happy little BTR. It should get its own kids show, the Soviet answer to ‘Thomas the Tank Engine’ - ‘Boris the BTR’ 😎😂
BTR is iconic.
Great desingn, but lighly armored. We talked these as better coffins because army test close range BTR 60/80 were just like cheese. PKM easily punctured the side armour. Russian steel? Not good so soon it was changed to BMP's
What is the close range here?
@@robertkalinic335 20 to 30 meters.
Russia did give an armour upgrade to many BRDM-2s, which this could probably fit a similar kit.
BTR is basically a truck with some armor, it's now when BTR's and BMP's are almost merged into one class of machines but back then they weren't.
Good day! Can you do a review about the V 150 APC.. Thanks!
Thnks for your intrest. We added the V150 to our list.
Can you do a video on the history and problems of the US AAV7? There are hardly any videos on it.
Thnks for your intrest. We added the AAAV7A1 to our list.
2:29 what is that ?
Edit never mind found it object 1200
0:15 looks like an adorable mouse character with a sassy attitude.
Has the cbrn protection ever been useful? 🤔
Do USSR decided to produce the cheapest and the least advanced APC. Victor Suvorov in one od his books, probably "Soldiers of freedom" described how piór this vehicles was in realiity
Резун пишет фантастику. У БТР-60ПБ всего два недостатка.
Он не может ехать по полю боя на одном двигателе.
При посадке на ходу есть риск схватиться рукой за горячую выхлопную трубу.
Для 60-70 годов он был хорош.
APCs (all of them, everyone's) were a mistake designed for a nuclear war that was never fought. Their light weight and high mobility however coerce their use in direct combat because when there are no IFV they're the only option. Between the US M113 and the BTR families the APC concept has resulted in many troop losses.
The concept of a front line backed by "safe" rear areas has been obsolete since the 1960s. At least M113 has a rear ramp but the best place for either is far from their usual locations where they're easily destroyed. Interestingly both Russian and US troops often rode desant (M113 most commonly in Southeast Asia) because it's better to be blown a way than burn inside.
Romanian TAB-71 is more a BTR-70 modernized not a BTR-60. First of all has the same armor like BTR-70, better than BTR-60 and the same doors between 2 and 3 wheels like BTR-70.
Has extra periscopes on the sides and turret has a special sight easy recognizable on the left side, for engaging helicopters. Both machine guns can be elevated to 85 degrees instead of 30, which is good in urban fighting.
Has only one diesel engine, instead of 2 gasoline engines.
The TAB-77 is based on the BTR-70. The TAB-71 has the same door arrangement as the BTR-60, not the BTR-70. you can see it in the video. And the TAB-71 does not have a diesel engine. It is equipped with two petrol engines, which are just more powerful than the BTR-60.
Good video. Do you change the day?
What day?
@@yarmud Thursday
That thumbnail reminds me of the Shiba Inu meme and I don’t know if that was intentional or accidental.😂
9:47 Who tells them ?
Experience. 👀
a casket made of iron
was one of the most annoying vehicles in wt
That's the BTR-80.
@@dannyzero692 oh I'm stupid thanks
BTR-60 doesn't even exist in War Thunder, it's the BTR-80A that is in War Thunder, 30mm APDS and a very high top speed and scouting abilities make it a very annoying vehicle to face against
Сompare with OT-64 realy scrab metall.BTR-70 even worst with door under waterline.BTR-80 development of scrab metall.Same with BTR-82.Russians always late 25-30 years of development.
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gaijin goingto have a loot of work with all these different variants lol.
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