I totally agree. I have a 2018 Ram 2500 Cummins, and I've had zero issues with it. All the research I've done on the 6.7 Cummins has told me that the 2016-2018 version is by far the most reliable version of that engine.
Honestly, anything before 5th gen is just about as reliable other than a couple rare exceptions such as the 53 block. It wasn't until the roller lifters and cgi block that problems really began. Sure, you got the grid heater bolt that the ford guys like to bring up but that's an easy fix. I don't think this video has much to do with the average truck buyer since most of us just want reliability and his opinion on the cummins is from the standpoint of adding big hp. Only time will tell.
2010/2012 is king. High output motors and it’s about as new as you can get without the new bullshit like def and electronic 4x4 I have a 2012 st and it’s got g56 with real 4x4 on the floor. Pw pl and exhaust brake. Otherwise no other electronic shit. No def no def gauge. No cp4. No moon roof or cooled seats that you don’t fuckin need. And they are fairly cheap to buy.
@rodleypumpkins4174 dude you have literally no idea what you're talking about. If you're deleting then it's pointless to compare them with or without. However if your running emissions on then you definitely want to have a truck with scr on it
@@wizard_of_poz4413 I know exactly what I’m talking about. I know everything about the Cummins and duramax I’ve had more miles behind those two motors then most people do in a lifetime I average 40k a year This year I’m over 50k. And that’s actually using them to their max. I do excavation so I’m towing pretty much every day. 2010-12 is best years for Cummins in my experience. I buy a truck and make it reliable so I’ve never had one that had emissions on it for very long. And ya stock sure you want def and scr I guess. I wouldn’t know.
The 7.2 will be coming with the new frame and cab come in 2027. Everyone wants numbers HP/Torque but 95% of regular Americans want reliability. I love the fact they are trying to make the 6.7 better and more reliable especially with the new ZF transmission. The issue is they still have hydraulic lifters, that's the huge negative for me.
Well I’m glad you put your two cents out there. I’m glad I watched till the end, I like the idea of take the savings on a 23/24 and build off that platform. Thanks, Josh!
“ flux capacitor 9000” you funny asf 😂😂😂. But i agree with you on the cp3. i was a die hard P pump guy but like you said its a dinosaur mechanical fuel system i will still run one but not for the “ most power” “ you need the 215 cam pump”. But unfortunately Its only gonna get worst especially with the more Emission bs they’re supposed to force on in 2027. Im the guy the will keep my common rail 1st gen and mega cab running for as long as i can. Everyone seems to think Tim Kuniskis coming back is going to change everything but it’s not.
I’ll never buy a duramax for work again, had a couple and front ends are horrible for pushing snow and everyday work. Cummins is by far most used hot shot truck at probably 80% compared to other two. I’ll stay with 2016-2018
@Freedomlawnservice87 driving them on logging roads day in and day out. It's easy to see how bad they are for anything other then concrete. Would not recommend for anything we do.
My 2022 3500 with Cummins has 169 thousand miles on it now. Been a great motor. But the emission problems are starting now. In process of making my truck lighter 😅
You must have never seen a broken crank in a L5P. Seen a lot of them and GM isn’t denying the warranty on them. No, none of those are tuned, but used as a truck.
It will be interesting to see how people like the ZF8. I’m a peterbilt tech and some of these new medium duty trucks have the ZF8’s in them and people have had bad luck with them. Lots of swing units.
Big 12v guy here . Way way prefer internal injectors. Like the vp trucks I can pull a set of injectors about 10-20 min faster then a 12v just by not fighting the old ones
As one of the engineers that helped designed this generation of this engine, it’s fun to see what people think of it and see people’s theories. I do the same thing with Apple products, so it’s fun to be on the other side of a release.
I am looking to get a new truck and I've been torn between the 4th and 5th gens. And what was the best year. Is there a video out there on which one is better
Is it worth buying one for the new ZF8HP transmission though ? Or better off buying a built 68rfe? It cost alot more in Australia for us to buy parts from the USA. Can you vouch for a built 68rfe that will hold 650ph-750hp?😁 is so who would u recommend buying from ?
This ZF8 Powerline must be different than the Hellcat/TRX trans because they say the Powerline trans will be used in Cab&Chassis trucks which require a PTO provision.
I agree with you on the external injectors and glow plugs. I think they also should’ve left the oil filter on the side because 10-15 years down the road the plastic caps will be brittle and have issues. I do think for the guys that tow and haul a lot the zf will be a major improvement just for the fact that zf has a good reputation and they use that style of trans in medium duty trucks but I’m sure ram with have the trans tuning different for more Comfort.
Hard disagree on glow plugs being more efficient cold starting than a grid heater. When you cycle glow plugs then crank most of the cylinders pump that hot air right out the exhaust because they arent up to fire then they draw in cold intake air. The intake being full of hot air fills each cylinder with hot air as they come up to fire. In my opinion its a much better design.
I’m disappointed w the hydraulic lifter problems going on. I myself have a 2019 cummins and hate wondering when mine are going to fail before I can get the flat tappet conversion done.
@ I mean there are people that love them and hate them, but for some reason Cummins went from flat tappet (2018 and older) to hydraulic lifters (2019-2024) to make the engines quieter and “more efficient. there’s tolerance issues and oil deprivation issues which is causing them to fail. Ultimately screwing up camshafts as well. All within very low mileage. The factory pushrods are also being bent easily as well.
Hydraulic lifters are just as reliable if done right. Tons of Duramax and 6.7 Powerstrokes with them that have 500k miles. Cummins made the huge mistake of not using needle bearings in their lifters which caused the lifter issues. Hopefully they learned and this 2nd iteration will resolve that issue.
@@Cobruhh93 I agree. Like you said, others have done them right but for some reason Cummins wanted to try something new and it backfired badly in their face especially coming from the older more reliable 2018 and older platform. Same thing could be said for the cp4s they were using then recalled them all for the cp3s
Not a fan of external injectors, when they are bad, they are real bad to change…. Hopefully they have really good sealing design for the outside debris that likes to build up. Personally if it was me I’d go to an overhead cam like a large displacement diesel engine with an adjustable cam gear😏…. and true Jake system as a option
I put a 33 percent cp3 on my 2021 and off the line is awesome . The 2021 370 horse has 19.1 compression and the low end is awesome. I am looking for a 12 valve .there slow up the hill but they will get there with out a tow truck .
Jesus external injector 🤦🤦🤦 I work on farm tractors and they can be so freaking stuck that you can pull them apart and then you have to remove the entire head to get the other half out it's so 1930s lol
Was looking into getting a new 24 gmc at4 to replace my 17 Cummins. But after driving it, I wasn’t pleased. It did have the heavy tow package but it rode pretty harsh. New interior was pretty nice though.
I’m Running a NAPA platinum oil filter. They have synthetic media. The NAPA gold I believe are paper. Correct me if I’m wrong but paper doesn’t flow much oil when it’s cold. Just doesn’t seem like a good idea.
I think horsepower and torque game is coming to an end. All 3 heavy duty trucks have more than enough power. The problem is reliability, they spend too much time in the shop versus on the road.
The 8 speed isn't the same as they have been using in other applications. The Powerline is a beefy medium chassis transmission. You will be surprised the way it runs.
Why would you want more power??? These trucks make more than enough power for most of us towing trailers. I don't get why people want more power??? What we need is making better reliability, and if that means it makes a little less power, I'd be ok with that if that means the engine will last 1 million miles. You'd be surprised how much power dump trucks make with their engines, and they're hauling way more than us consumers daily.
First off Josh I love your content, I never miss a video 😊I’ve been watching you for years from when you just starting! You should make a video about horsepower recipes from your experience, I feel like often over complicate things and with your knowledge and experience I think you can simplify people’s goals with their 5.9 Or 6.7 cummins where it’s like a stock power, 500, 650, 850, 1,200 hp
The l5p is alright If you got the money it’s great but a lmm is cheaper to build then lml and l5p. A lot less to delete and deal with. Just basic delete with a lift pump/race plug and your hitting 5-525hp immediately. Lml your dealing with def and redoing the fuel system on top of deletes and other fun adders. The l5p you need to do all that shit plus a new computer L5p is for people with money. The lmm is the best base line duramax to build.
Helps make it easier to decide to shop for a 4th gen tow rig versus going for the new new. Appreciate your take on it all from a tech standpoint. Hopefully they don't try a revised cp4 that ends up problematic like the hydraulic lifters. Cummins reliability used to sell trucks that weren't built as well as the competitors. Now they are falling off on that some with these changes in my opinion and, as you stated, with a still underpowered offering compared to the Ford and GM.
Ive driven both duramaxs and cummins. Even the older duramaxs feel like they have more power than a 2019 or 2020. Some of our cummins are deleted too. On paper thats not supposed to be the case. So are numbers being fudged?
I don't think I'll ever get rid of my 3rd gen 6.7 with the way these new trucks are headed. I had my hopes up for the 2025, but the complexity is just getting out of hand. I feel like the cummins engines are slowley going to become the new 6.0 and 6.4 fords.
The 6.7 Cummings is not the issue. It’s the 6spd auto. The 8spd auto and 6spd manual should have been the 2 transmissions available for the 6.7. I believe Ford, Chevy, and Dodge HD truck should all come standard with compound turbos. Compounds pull much better, much cooler, more reliable.
Been doing that since they installed the rear filters. Chassis cab had a better design, it was on the frame itself or close enough to it and not above the frickin driveshaft.
Ram , cummins , stellantis are falling off the block. My 2012 is rock solid never had an issue. My 2016 was amazing , my 2022 was a POS and no way will I even consider a 25+
Ram better get straight with what people actually want in truck I like ram trucks but I'll buy a ford over ram if I was buying one they should of offered the 7.2 liter engine with new tranny then redesign the cab and all
2027- 50% reduction in particulate matter! 80% reduction in NOX !!! That’s a reduction from where we are now! And they gonna have to charge us for a 450k mile warranty on emissions equipment. So prices going way up and even more issues coming in 2027. Thoughts from anyone?
Thanks for the review, I agree with you. 4th gen is much better. I have the same dually as you, I moved the under bed filter to the inboard side of the frame under the divers door with a Fleece under hood filter setup. Works awesome and no more dumping on the driveshaft. I compounded my Cheetah with an s475 kit from Pusher, it tows awesome and ego’s stay below 1080. Keep up the great content!
@@horsetorquesdiesel they run those close to 300 pto horse power on the large frame 6rs and 7rs. I feel like size wise they are similar to a 6.7 Cummins. Would be a fun truck to have. One day I’ll attempt putting one in a truck
Seems to me like Ram fans don't care about coming in last place going up the hill, apparently engine braking is the greatest thing ever, so.this is good news for them.
@horsetorquesdiesel exactly. But every road test, or head to head comparison video that involves a Ram vs any of the other 2 makes, the comments section is loaded with diehard Ram/cummins guys saying nobody cares about HP, tq, payload, or first up the hill, engine braking is the most important thing. It’s bs and it's not like the Ford and GM trucks are flying down hills out of control. While their engine brakes aren't as stout as Ram's, they're still damn good.
@jeffclark4008 I do see where ram, especially in 2500 standard out put form is behind numbers wise. However, that said they still out power all other offerings from the past, stock 7.3s, 6.4s 5.9s all earlier duramaxes, and for sure any gasser ever made hands down. My question or point is you still see all those trucks I just mentioned still out on the road out on the hwy putting in some serious work and miles all the while being "inferior" to the numbers to that of a current 2500 cummins ram and they're doing just fine. Would i like to see the specs on my 21 cummins be at or over that of the other 2??, sure, but what's it gonna do for me? I haven't met a hill yet i can't speed up with my 10-12k load behind me , which I would say is also very close to the average weight most people are dealing with, and it is a joy coming off those hills with the exhaust brake. Marketing and sales wise, big dick competition wise, yes, I see the importance of hp/tq numbers, real world on the road id like to see the same drive and enthusiasm for dead nuts reliability and logic over that of my truck makes more power than my neighbors.
Glad I chose a 4th gen 6.7 been slowly upgrading the issues with it and happy so far rather spend the money on upgrading this than getting a newer one with bigger flaws. Could always do a 5th gen front end 😂 that the last thing on my list.
I've never seen someone be disappointed in a dealer ship sticking with reliability look at the 5.0 from 1990 compared to now a tank can stay a tank .... why would someone want to deal with the marketing ploy going from 7.3 lt to 6.0 yeah its double hp but it took a few years to iron out and then they do it again .....🥁🥁🥁🥁 🪄💥 6.4 lt trash
2016-2018 6.7 is forever prime.
I totally agree. I have a 2018 Ram 2500 Cummins, and I've had zero issues with it. All the research I've done on the 6.7 Cummins has told me that the 2016-2018 version is by far the most reliable version of that engine.
Honestly, anything before 5th gen is just about as reliable other than a couple rare exceptions such as the 53 block. It wasn't until the roller lifters and cgi block that problems really began. Sure, you got the grid heater bolt that the ford guys like to bring up but that's an easy fix. I don't think this video has much to do with the average truck buyer since most of us just want reliability and his opinion on the cummins is from the standpoint of adding big hp. Only time will tell.
2010/2012 is king. High output motors and it’s about as new as you can get without the new bullshit like def and electronic 4x4
I have a 2012 st and it’s got g56 with real 4x4 on the floor. Pw pl and exhaust brake. Otherwise no other electronic shit. No def no def gauge. No cp4. No moon roof or cooled seats that you don’t fuckin need. And they are fairly cheap to buy.
@rodleypumpkins4174 dude you have literally no idea what you're talking about. If you're deleting then it's pointless to compare them with or without. However if your running emissions on then you definitely want to have a truck with scr on it
@@wizard_of_poz4413 I know exactly what I’m talking about. I know everything about the Cummins and duramax I’ve had more miles behind those two motors then most people do in a lifetime I average 40k a year This year I’m over 50k. And that’s actually using them to their max. I do excavation so I’m towing pretty much every day. 2010-12 is best years for Cummins in my experience. I buy a truck and make it reliable so I’ve never had one that had emissions on it for very long. And ya stock sure you want def and scr I guess. I wouldn’t know.
The 7.2 will be coming with the new frame and cab come in 2027. Everyone wants numbers HP/Torque but 95% of regular Americans want reliability. I love the fact they are trying to make the 6.7 better and more reliable especially with the new ZF transmission. The issue is they still have hydraulic lifters, that's the huge negative for me.
Yep that’s right the 7.2 is still a few years off
Yall in for a suprise lol
@ how so?
they achieved less reliability and yet still failed to make up ground on power
I think that is unlikely. There just isn't the cash flow
L5p hp4 is a denso. So, if they’re saying it’s Bosch, then hp4 is out.
I still have my 2008 2500 with a 6.7 at 417000 trouble free miles.
Just glad you’re videos are popping back up in my feed regularly
Well I’m glad you put your two cents out there. I’m glad I watched till the end, I like the idea of take the savings on a 23/24 and build off that platform. Thanks, Josh!
I have a 2021 370 horse with a cp3 and this truck does every thing i do 20000 lbs dump bed.
“ flux capacitor 9000” you funny asf 😂😂😂. But i agree with you on the cp3. i was a die hard P pump guy but like you said its a dinosaur mechanical fuel system i will still run one but not for the “ most power” “ you need the 215 cam pump”. But unfortunately Its only gonna get worst especially with the more Emission bs they’re supposed to force on in 2027. Im the guy the will keep my common rail 1st gen and mega cab running for as long as i can. Everyone seems to think Tim Kuniskis coming back is going to change everything but it’s not.
215? Wait till you try a hamilton pump cam. Way different monster
Agreed sir!
I'll keep my all iron 5.9 thank you very much!
Keeping my 2003 forever. 300,000 extremely reliable over 21 years of ownership. + I’ve got a 6 speed man’s transmission.
Ditto that. My '06 works just fine and will outlast me.
I'm honestly surprised you like the L5P as much as you do but I know your one of the few guys that has tested and worked on literally every platform.
They have a solid bottom end, ride well, and seem to hold their own
@@horsetorquesdiesel just not off road. They are absolutely terrible when used in an off-road industry.
@@specializ20 makes sense I don't off road any of my trucks except sled pulling
I’ll never buy a duramax for work again, had a couple and front ends are horrible for pushing snow and everyday work. Cummins is by far most used hot shot truck at probably 80% compared to other two. I’ll stay with 2016-2018
@Freedomlawnservice87 driving them on logging roads day in and day out. It's easy to see how bad they are for anything other then concrete. Would not recommend for anything we do.
My 2022 3500 with Cummins has 169 thousand miles on it now. Been a great motor. But the emission problems are starting now. In process of making my truck lighter 😅
You must have never seen a broken crank in a L5P. Seen a lot of them and GM isn’t denying the warranty on them. No, none of those are tuned, but used as a truck.
It will be interesting to see how people like the ZF8. I’m a peterbilt tech and some of these new medium duty trucks have the ZF8’s in them and people have had bad luck with them. Lots of swing units.
im sure it will be a disappointment
Big 12v guy here . Way way prefer internal injectors. Like the vp trucks I can pull a set of injectors about 10-20 min faster then a 12v just by not fighting the old ones
Can we just agree on how good the 6.0 POWERstroke is? Nothing holds a candle to its design, longevity and power output FR
Love the satire here😂
Early 6.7s are great, but 5.9l vp trucks are my favorite no emissions no problems
As one of the engineers that helped designed this generation of this engine, it’s fun to see what people think of it and see people’s theories. I do the same thing with Apple products, so it’s fun to be on the other side of a release.
Do you work at CEP ? I wish we had more light duty stuff at STC personally.
@ I work at COB, CEP is just block and head machining and accelera stuff.
I am looking to get a new truck and I've been torn between the 4th and 5th gens. And what was the best year. Is there a video out there on which one is better
Is it worth buying one for the new ZF8HP transmission though ?
Or better off buying a built 68rfe?
It cost alot more in Australia for us to buy parts from the USA. Can you vouch for a built 68rfe that will hold 650ph-750hp?😁 is so who would u recommend buying from ?
Maybe that trans won’t need as much torque management…more power to the ground 🤷♂️
This ZF8 Powerline must be different than the Hellcat/TRX trans because they say the Powerline trans will be used in Cab&Chassis trucks which require a PTO provision.
Im sure it will have some changes at least in the converter
It's a medium duty trans, like a 6 speed aisin. Completely different than the 8 speed the rest of the vehicles use.
Completely agree! Ram blew it on this one, I’ll stay with my 3rd gen
I agree with you on the external injectors and glow plugs. I think they also should’ve left the oil filter on the side because 10-15 years down the road the plastic caps will be brittle and have issues. I do think for the guys that tow and haul a lot the zf will be a major improvement just for the fact that zf has a good reputation and they use that style of trans in medium duty trucks but I’m sure ram with have the trans tuning different for more Comfort.
Hard disagree on glow plugs being more efficient cold starting than a grid heater. When you cycle glow plugs then crank most of the cylinders pump that hot air right out the exhaust because they arent up to fire then they draw in cold intake air. The intake being full of hot air fills each cylinder with hot air as they come up to fire. In my opinion its a much better design.
I’m disappointed w the hydraulic lifter problems going on. I myself have a 2019 cummins and hate wondering when mine are going to fail before I can get the flat tappet conversion done.
I thought hydraulic lifters were more reliable. What did it have? Flat tappet?
@ I mean there are people that love them and hate them, but for some reason Cummins went from flat tappet (2018 and older) to hydraulic lifters (2019-2024) to make the engines quieter and “more efficient. there’s tolerance issues and oil deprivation issues which is causing them to fail. Ultimately screwing up camshafts as well. All within very low mileage. The factory pushrods are also being bent easily as well.
Hydraulic lifters are just as reliable if done right. Tons of Duramax and 6.7 Powerstrokes with them that have 500k miles. Cummins made the huge mistake of not using needle bearings in their lifters which caused the lifter issues. Hopefully they learned and this 2nd iteration will resolve that issue.
@@Cobruhh93 I agree. Like you said, others have done them right but for some reason Cummins wanted to try something new and it backfired badly in their face especially coming from the older more reliable 2018 and older platform. Same thing could be said for the cp4s they were using then recalled them all for the cp3s
Where’s your shop in so cal. Might have to take a trip. I want to 6.7 swap my 07 5.9.
What about street ability of the 2,000 and 3,000hp setups?
Not a fan of external injectors, when they are bad, they are real bad to change…. Hopefully they have really good sealing design for the outside debris that likes to build up.
Personally if it was me I’d go to an overhead cam like a large displacement diesel engine with an adjustable cam gear😏…. and true Jake system as a option
Cool stuff, good video. I bet rail pressure is going to be through the roof soon!! Keep it up!!!
I put a 33 percent cp3 on my 2021 and off the line is awesome . The 2021 370 horse has 19.1 compression and the low end is awesome. I am looking for a 12 valve .there slow up the hill but they will get there with out a tow truck .
The newer they are the more junk they add .
Been waiting on this video for day!!!
Thanks for sharing your insights Josh !
Jesus external injector 🤦🤦🤦 I work on farm tractors and they can be so freaking stuck that you can pull them apart and then you have to remove the entire head to get the other half out it's so 1930s lol
Was looking into getting a new 24 gmc at4 to replace my 17 Cummins. But after driving it, I wasn’t pleased. It did have the heavy tow package but it rode pretty harsh. New interior was pretty nice though.
Im suprised my 18 rides like a passenger car.
I’m Running a NAPA platinum oil filter. They have synthetic media. The NAPA gold I believe are paper. Correct me if I’m wrong but paper doesn’t flow much oil when it’s cold. Just doesn’t seem like a good idea.
Switch to amsoil EAO80-EA filter, trust me
The injection pump in that new picture is clearly a cp4😂
I think horsepower and torque game is coming to an end. All 3 heavy duty trucks have more than enough power. The problem is reliability, they spend too much time in the shop versus on the road.
The 8 speed isn't the same as they have been using in other applications. The Powerline is a beefy medium chassis transmission. You will be surprised the way it runs.
Where are you located in SoCal and do you take on new customers? I in SoCal and would like to get some work done on my Cummins
Head east on the i10 until you hit the i15, then drive 400 miles north until you get to Cedar City.
Why would you want more power??? These trucks make more than enough power for most of us towing trailers. I don't get why people want more power??? What we need is making better reliability, and if that means it makes a little less power, I'd be ok with that if that means the engine will last 1 million miles. You'd be surprised how much power dump trucks make with their engines, and they're hauling way more than us consumers daily.
Being a 12 valve guy, the only thing I liked was the external injectors lol
to each their own external injectors can be a nightmare with corrosion
@ that’s what god gave us kroil for!
I've been seeing so many 5th gen pushrods eating themselves where they contact the rockers.
New rams are kinda ugly. I'll be shopping a higher mile 4th gen mega after closing on a new home
cant go wrong 15-18
What about the 470k recall in new gm diesels?
Rear wheels lock up look it up
you can go round and round on recalls all the brands have issues. 17-18 ram abs will put you in a ditch too
The injection pump is a cp8 basically what a cp4 should have been originally.
First off Josh I love your content, I never miss a video 😊I’ve been watching you for years from when you just starting!
You should make a video about horsepower recipes from your experience, I feel like often over complicate things and with your knowledge and experience I think you can simplify people’s goals with their 5.9 Or 6.7 cummins where it’s like a stock power, 500, 650, 850, 1,200 hp
ill add it to the list
@ awesome 😎 I’m looking forward to it. You should also do more engine builds if that’s on your horizon
The l5p is alright If you got the money it’s great but a lmm is cheaper to build then lml and l5p. A lot less to delete and deal with. Just basic delete with a lift pump/race plug and your hitting 5-525hp immediately. Lml your dealing with def and redoing the fuel system on top of deletes and other fun adders. The l5p you need to do all that shit plus a new computer L5p is for people with money. The lmm is the best base line duramax to build.
Helps make it easier to decide to shop for a 4th gen tow rig versus going for the new new. Appreciate your take on it all from a tech standpoint. Hopefully they don't try a revised cp4 that ends up problematic like the hydraulic lifters. Cummins reliability used to sell trucks that weren't built as well as the competitors. Now they are falling off on that some with these changes in my opinion and, as you stated, with a still underpowered offering compared to the Ford and GM.
Ive driven both duramaxs and cummins. Even the older duramaxs feel like they have more power than a 2019 or 2020. Some of our cummins are deleted too. On paper thats not supposed to be the case. So are numbers being fudged?
Cummins fall off pretty hard above 2500 RPM or so with the stock turbo.
I think the power potential of a cummins was higher until 2017, but dmaxes stock for stock are faster
I fully resonate with your opinion on all that!
You only picked the L5P because it doesn’t have a cp4
no i picked it because it has the strongest bottom end
The L5P is the best stock motor all around at the moment
I don't think I'll ever get rid of my 3rd gen 6.7 with the way these new trucks are headed. I had my hopes up for the 2025, but the complexity is just getting out of hand. I feel like the cummins engines are slowley going to become the new 6.0 and 6.4 fords.
6.0 can be made very reliable
5th gem Cummins can't be fixed weak block
Still loving my 98.5 5.9
New truck prices are ridiculous. I think you're better off also.
The 6.7 Cummings is not the issue. It’s the 6spd auto. The 8spd auto and 6spd manual should have been the 2 transmissions available for the 6.7. I believe Ford, Chevy, and Dodge HD truck should all come standard with compound turbos. Compounds pull much better, much cooler, more reliable.
Compounds almost never come with anything unless you have a manufacturer that just wants them for emissions
@ I think it was in 2008 Fords 6.4 power stroke came with 2 turbos from the factory.
@@stgraves260 and the v8 nissan cummins
Nice video Josh.
Hose to the drain on the rear filter into a bottle = no fuel spill when changing.
Been doing that since they installed the rear filters. Chassis cab had a better design, it was on the frame itself or close enough to it and not above the frickin driveshaft.
it still spills and drips and the front one is also a mess
You can drain it till it stops and it'll still spill
No grid heater according to TFL. They said it's glowplugs now
yes sir covered that!
@@horsetorquesdiesel external glow plugs would be interesting. Like in the intake tract.
@@lamarzimmermanmennonitefar5269that's not really a glow plug then
Ram , cummins , stellantis are falling off the block.
My 2012 is rock solid never had an issue. My 2016 was amazing , my 2022 was a POS and no way will I even consider a 25+
Ram better get straight with what people actually want in truck I like ram trucks but I'll buy a ford over ram if I was buying one they should of offered the 7.2 liter engine with new tranny then redesign the cab and all
i will keep my 2012 dually longhorn. 200K 30 lbs lighter and trouble free.
2027- 50% reduction in particulate matter! 80% reduction in NOX !!! That’s a reduction from where we are now! And they gonna have to charge us for a 450k mile warranty on emissions equipment. So prices going way up and even more issues coming in 2027. Thoughts from anyone?
Thanks for the review, I agree with you. 4th gen is much better. I have the same dually as you, I moved the under bed filter to the inboard side of the frame under the divers door with a Fleece under hood filter setup. Works awesome and no more dumping on the driveshaft. I compounded my Cheetah with an s475 kit from Pusher, it tows awesome and ego’s stay below 1080. Keep up the great content!
I wish for DOHC like the isx
If I can put old miller high life and other garbage in a mr fusion on a new ram I'm in!
What about the aluminum head. That's a potential disaster.
Better not let it warm up and don’t forget Dave’s snake oil!
lol!
The best truck on the road still to this day is a 2016 through 2018 ram 3500
People grow up hp and power, for what? Bragging rights? It's about reliability stupid people. My truck makes me money, that's what it's all about
someone should run a 6.8l deere engine that's is in a mid frame 6r
Put one in a truck😅
Do it😅
Maybe one day...
@@horsetorquesdiesel they run those close to 300 pto horse power on the large frame 6rs and 7rs. I feel like size wise they are similar to a 6.7 Cummins. Would be a fun truck to have. One day I’ll attempt putting one in a truck
So disappointed first you move to California then you cheat on Cummins with a Duramax I’m so sad 😂 😂😂
Seems to me like Ram fans don't care about coming in last place going up the hill, apparently engine braking is the greatest thing ever, so.this is good news for them.
engine braking is one of my favorites, but i have places to be lol
@horsetorquesdiesel exactly. But every road test, or head to head comparison video that involves a Ram vs any of the other 2 makes, the comments section is loaded with diehard Ram/cummins guys saying nobody cares about HP, tq, payload, or first up the hill, engine braking is the most important thing. It’s bs and it's not like the Ford and GM trucks are flying down hills out of control. While their engine brakes aren't as stout as Ram's, they're still damn good.
@jeffclark4008 I do see where ram, especially in 2500 standard out put form is behind numbers wise. However, that said they still out power all other offerings from the past, stock 7.3s, 6.4s 5.9s all earlier duramaxes, and for sure any gasser ever made hands down. My question or point is you still see all those trucks I just mentioned still out on the road out on the hwy putting in some serious work and miles all the while being "inferior" to the numbers to that of a current 2500 cummins ram and they're doing just fine. Would i like to see the specs on my 21 cummins be at or over that of the other 2??, sure, but what's it gonna do for me? I haven't met a hill yet i can't speed up with my 10-12k load behind me , which I would say is also very close to the average weight most people are dealing with, and it is a joy coming off those hills with the exhaust brake. Marketing and sales wise, big dick competition wise, yes, I see the importance of hp/tq numbers, real world on the road id like to see the same drive and enthusiasm for dead nuts reliability and logic over that of my truck makes more power than my neighbors.
Glad I chose a 4th gen 6.7 been slowly upgrading the issues with it and happy so far rather spend the money on upgrading this than getting a newer one with bigger flaws. Could always do a 5th gen front end 😂 that the last thing on my list.
I thought about a clip swap honestly
I've never seen someone be disappointed in a dealer ship sticking with reliability look at the 5.0 from 1990 compared to now a tank can stay a tank .... why would someone want to deal with the marketing ploy going from 7.3 lt to 6.0 yeah its double hp but it took a few years to iron out and then they do it again .....🥁🥁🥁🥁 🪄💥 6.4 lt trash
You need to get a 6.4
facts need real life to settle down
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