I just hit 1264 FPS with a 128 grain on my 457 challenger with the max power pack, and i have never heard that before, now I have have valve lock because it was overfilled before and after the first valve lock it will work like it is supposed to. Geat video, keep up the good work.
You aren’t doing it out of order, you are keeping it interesting! Those Terry Fox creations are pretty damn impressive. Once you get everything lined up it will be a deer hunting monster
you get better flight out of TPP slugs out of that thing. Also it needs adjusting of the reg a bunch and you'll tighten up those groups with the magazine. Now what I want to know is this thing a huge pile like most AEA Airguns ? This one I am really interested in. However I got it on good authority that they are making a .457 in a LCS frame with the Western Airguns offshoot of the Rattler in a deer killing caliber. So I may wait for that to come to market . The trouble I have with AEA is LEAKING AIR. They all leak bad. what is your experience with this airgun leaking?
Now I know from two different shooters what to kind of expect when my .45 arrives,great info,I believe them elite bigbore guns will be decent 100 yd guns but I’ll most likely keep mine to around 75/85 yds💪🏻😎
@@MichiganAirgunner you know trying to find a tempered spring of the same size from a fire arm that will fit. Possibly might have to mod its length. But a tempered spring would work a lot better than the cheap untempered springs Aea are using. Yo can stretch and bend those springs. The springs in fire arms you can’t. At least not easy! You can take a pair of pliers and manipulate the Aea springs pretty easily. But they are not hard enough or retain their shape to hold up for the duration. The springs are basically collapsing under those pressures. A spacer will fix it until it collapses further. If AEA would invest in hard cold tempered springs these guns would be flawless in my opinion. The bad thing if you call around to the various dealers you get so many different reasons, valve seats, valve pin, the ambient temperature being too low. Moisture, oil. Everything but the springs. It was your video and the use of the spacers that made me evaluate the integrity of the springs concluding that the springs are cheap and not made of proper material and are not tempered springs like they most definitely should be.
This number show hammer spring too heavy for regulators setting. So I think you can setting regulator pressure higher. Will be much better. This gun can setting regulator. So it’s need some turning
I (sarcastically) love how these airguns produce the best accuracy with slugs that will NOT fit in the mag. it is almost like the engineers didn't do 👉A Thorough Job but still want your money 🤔R they are holding accuracy ho$tage. O! what marketing genius.🙄 If you can't get consistent MOA groups at 100 yards its not there yet. Thanks for the Review.
U can get pretty good accuracy from short slugs just have to find the right one. But I get what you're saying.. bigger mags means more work for them and more money 🤷
my only concern is that rifle looks ike a beast as for the weight! put my heavy Arken on top and I am not sure if I would want to lugg that around in the timber!
Your results are very different from Terry Fox's. Were you still set at about 215 bar? I have one of these coming from Foxpower right now, very nice looking rifle.
@@MichiganAirgunner turn up your regulator . I really want to know if this thing is the gun it looks to be. I have had nothing but problems from AEA and Bin tac. They shoot good but have so many breakage problems and leak so bad I cannot stand them. i am on the fence with this airgun though. It sure looks the part.
@@jesusoftheapesI have 3 of them. HP max ss, challenger pro and elite. No problems yet. Hundreds of shots through them. I never air mine up into the yellow on the reg. Maybe that's why I haven't had leaks? I've had nothing but joy when shooting these. My hatsan Hercules bully on the other hand, not so much. It's been nothing but problems for me.
something wrong with your reg or you were chasing the last of the bottle. You should not very that much . The one we tested was a homemade basic Challenger with a reg and we got within 5 FPS of variation max. I think you have an issue with your regulator. there is no way you drop over 12 FPS in three shots unless that ammo was way out of speck. If you had ammo marked a weight that was heavier than said you would have this effect. Something is wrong.
That's a tough question.. every one will have there own opinion on this.. I would say for over 100 yards I'd go with a Zeus.. Under a 100 yards challenger 35 and up .. under 75 yards the HP max model's.. that if you're only looking into AEA... There are so many different brands out there that do very well but I haven't tested them all
@MichiganAirgunner ty sir ,good video love you honesty. which these utubers are lacking there just thinking of # . I ask this questions to 7 different utubers and not one has replied yet. You were cut to the chase you didn't hold back. And you honest about the # that terry had and you were getting. This is what make me keep coming back to you videos. I like that you not negative you just give constructive criticism you opinion and facts. I understand that this takes away from your time and it's not cheap to do these videos with equipment. Especially when you doing the work for us.
How's the regulator working on that gun I hear they can't get them to work right so that's why they're not releasing them that's what they told me at the pellet shop yeah I can see I asked you this before you shot the gun I can see the regulator is not working right they shouldn't be that much of a spread with a regulated gun
So far this one seems ok.. the reg still needs a little tuning.. the first shot was a little high but the last 5 were pretty on point for a regulated big bore.. I don't think it will be as consistent as a regulated 25cal but but it does work
Yeah but that gun there's over $1,000 compared to the 50 caliber gun that I bought for $659 The Regulators got to work a lot better than that how could they expect somebody to spend over $1,000 for that gun
Sorry bud I like the Texans and I think they're made really well but I like a magazine-fed gun that's why I will never buy Texan air rifle I don't like a single shot I like a magazine-fed rifle
@@donwilson350 And you completely missed my point. If a Texan in single shot and unregulated goes for $1k+, where comes the complaint that a regulated gun is slightly less than perfect, with a magazine, for less than a Texan? 🤔
he was saying they are crappy....@@MichiganAirgunner they are starting to shotgun at 50 yards. not a good sign. the 280's could be a 100 yard slug i think but the others not a chance i would take.
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I just hit 1264 FPS with a 128 grain on my 457 challenger with the max power pack, and i have never heard that before, now I have have valve lock because it was overfilled before and after the first valve lock it will work like it is supposed to. Geat video, keep up the good work.
You aren’t doing it out of order, you are keeping it interesting! Those Terry Fox creations are pretty damn impressive. Once you get everything lined up it will be a deer hunting monster
Another great video, love that airgun looks awesome keep up the great videos !
we need an after market magazine maker to fill that gap, because AEA mags suck a**!
Those 250s were looking beautiful!
I really like them to.. but them 280s were great just wish they fit in the mag
you get better flight out of TPP slugs out of that thing. Also it needs adjusting of the reg a bunch and you'll tighten up those groups with the magazine. Now what I want to know is this thing a huge pile like most AEA Airguns ? This one I am really interested in. However I got it on good authority that they are making a .457 in a LCS frame with the Western Airguns offshoot of the Rattler in a deer killing caliber. So I may wait for that to come to market . The trouble I have with AEA is LEAKING AIR. They all leak bad. what is your experience with this airgun leaking?
Now I know from two different shooters what to kind of expect when my .45 arrives,great info,I believe them elite bigbore guns will be decent 100 yd guns but I’ll most likely keep mine to around 75/85 yds💪🏻😎
Some these airguns have a effective range of 200-300 yards.
@@undeadaeon9992 yes but I don’t have that distance to stretch anything out,unless I go to a range!
I found in my AEA standard 45 cal the 360 grain works the best.
Sounds like it’s got some hammer bounce.
Ya little bit.. 357 does the same thing.. think I'm going to take it apart and add a spacer to the spring
@@MichiganAirgunner you know trying to find a tempered spring of the same size from a fire arm that will fit. Possibly might have to mod its length. But a tempered spring would work a lot better than the cheap untempered springs Aea are using. Yo can stretch and bend those springs. The springs in fire arms you can’t. At least not easy! You can take a pair of pliers and manipulate the Aea springs pretty easily. But they are not hard enough or retain their shape to hold up for the duration. The springs are basically collapsing under those pressures. A spacer will fix it until it collapses further. If AEA would invest in hard cold tempered springs these guns would be flawless in my opinion. The bad thing if you call around to the various dealers you get so many different reasons, valve seats, valve pin, the ambient temperature being too low. Moisture, oil. Everything but the springs.
It was your video and the use of the spacers that made me evaluate the integrity of the springs concluding that the springs are cheap and not made of proper material and are not tempered springs like they most definitely should be.
@@MichiganAirgunner wolf gun springs as springs
@@myfalconry76 I'll have to check it out this spring when I get my big bores back out
Nice video. Keep shooting! 👍🏾
sweet!!!
I am waiting for my .357 elite
This number show hammer spring too heavy for regulators setting. So I think you can setting regulator pressure higher. Will be much better. This gun can setting regulator. So it’s need some turning
Go figure the slugs that won't fit the mag work best
Maybe a lower reg pressure would shoot the lower weight slugs.
Good shooting!
Muy Excelente
So what was your reg pressure?? Was it factory set or did you change it.. this is an impressive rifle especially with these groups
My reg was set at about 200bar
I (sarcastically) love how these airguns produce the best accuracy with slugs that will NOT fit in the mag. it is almost like the engineers didn't do 👉A Thorough Job but still want your money 🤔R they are holding accuracy ho$tage.
O! what marketing genius.🙄
If you can't get consistent MOA groups at 100 yards its not there yet.
Thanks for the
Review.
U can get pretty good accuracy from short slugs just have to find the right one. But I get what you're saying.. bigger mags means more work for them and more money 🤷
my only concern is that rifle looks ike a beast as for the weight! put my heavy Arken on top and I am not sure if I would want to lugg that around in the timber!
Ya it's definitely not a walking around gun lol
I would like to see a barrel band or 2 on this gun.
I don't think these airguns are hunt ready with free floating barrels.
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I'm sure barrel bands on on the way..
I am buying the 45 caliber Challenger I just hope I can get a muffler for it
I have one coming also. If you find a moderator for it, would love to hear about it, good luck with yours.
There lots of videos in youtube on testing 45 Cal. Air Rifles, but only like 1 or to videos of actually hunting something with them.
Ya not many people actually hunt with the guns they show.. I do my best to hunt less paper lol
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I need the reg.kit for my 50 Challenger
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Your results are very different from Terry Fox's. Were you still set at about 215 bar? I have one of these coming from Foxpower right now, very nice looking rifle.
I didn't touch a thing.. but be just because he's in California and I'm in Michigan.. idk🤷.. still have more testing to do
@@MichiganAirgunner turn up your regulator . I really want to know if this thing is the gun it looks to be. I have had nothing but problems from AEA and Bin tac. They shoot good but have so many breakage problems and leak so bad I cannot stand them. i am on the fence with this airgun though. It sure looks the part.
@@jesusoftheapesI have 3 of them. HP max ss, challenger pro and elite. No problems yet. Hundreds of shots through them. I never air mine up into the yellow on the reg. Maybe that's why I haven't had leaks? I've had nothing but joy when shooting these. My hatsan Hercules bully on the other hand, not so much. It's been nothing but problems for me.
something wrong with your reg or you were chasing the last of the bottle. You should not very that much . The one we tested was a homemade basic Challenger with a reg and we got within 5 FPS of variation max. I think you have an issue with your regulator. there is no way you drop over 12 FPS in three shots unless that ammo was way out of speck. If you had ammo marked a weight that was heavier than said you would have this effect. Something is wrong.
and with his ammo I have found none of it is match . It all weighs different weights unlike a lot of better ammos on the market.
I wanna see the next video after u tune it
You jerk the trigger if you squeeze it you'll get better accuracy
What is the best most accurate long distance pcp big bore for deer 🦌 hunting ?
That's a tough question.. every one will have there own opinion on this.. I would say for over 100 yards I'd go with a Zeus.. Under a 100 yards challenger 35 and up .. under 75 yards the HP max model's.. that if you're only looking into AEA... There are so many different brands out there that do very well but I haven't tested them all
👍👍👍 Capacity plenum?
I was told 220cc
@@MichiganAirgunner thanks.
Would this be a good 100 yard gun for deer
I think with the right slug this gun would be more then capable of taking a deer at 100
I like this gun because it’s regulated but I was also looking at the 72 Zeus 24 “
@@keithwilliams3403 72is a fun gun..
Who makes aea ? What kida of warranty comes with it?
They are a china company... Warranty is pretty much up to the distributor
@MichiganAirgunner ty sir ,good video love you honesty. which these utubers are lacking there just thinking of # . I ask this questions to 7 different utubers and not one has replied yet. You were cut to the chase you didn't hold back. And you honest about the # that terry had and you were getting. This is what make me keep coming back to you videos. I like that you not negative you just give constructive criticism you opinion and facts. I understand that this takes away from your time and it's not cheap to do these videos with equipment. Especially when you doing the work for us.
How's the regulator working on that gun I hear they can't get them to work right so that's why they're not releasing them that's what they told me at the pellet shop yeah I can see I asked you this before you shot the gun I can see the regulator is not working right they shouldn't be that much of a spread with a regulated gun
So far this one seems ok.. the reg still needs a little tuning.. the first shot was a little high but the last 5 were pretty on point for a regulated big bore.. I don't think it will be as consistent as a regulated 25cal but but it does work
Yeah but that gun there's over $1,000 compared to the 50 caliber gun that I bought for $659 The Regulators got to work a lot better than that how could they expect somebody to spend over $1,000 for that gun
@@donwilson350
Are AirForce Texans regulated at all, at the $1k price point? 🤔
Sorry bud I like the Texans and I think they're made really well but I like a magazine-fed gun that's why I will never buy Texan air rifle I don't like a single shot I like a magazine-fed rifle
@@donwilson350
And you completely missed my point.
If a Texan in single shot and unregulated goes for $1k+, where comes the complaint that a regulated gun is slightly less than perfect, with a magazine, for less than a Texan? 🤔
Id cus that one girl out to😂 and still approach her ut secret recording to
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Ok trying to decide on the .30 or the .45 for coyotes
For coyotes 30cal is good enough.. u will shoot flatter and have better ballistic coefficiency ..
I've noticed on every single video fist featuring mr. Hollow-point slugs. Regardless of the make or model. The shots are incredibly inaccurate!
Ya he puts a lot of time and money into his slugs to make use u get great quality ammo... I haven't found many slugs that didn't work well from him
he was saying they are crappy....@@MichiganAirgunner they are starting to shotgun at 50 yards. not a good sign. the 280's could be a 100 yard slug i think but the others not a chance i would take.