S. China Sea Drama Unfolds: A Political Play?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 พ.ค. 2024
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A Filipino civilian convoy called "Atin Ito" claims to have breached China's blockade around the Huangyan Dao, also known as Scarborough Shoal, in the South China Sea. The convoy reportedly aimed to resupply Filipino fishermen but stopped 50 nautical miles from the shoal. The Philippine Coast Guard and Navy monitored the mission. What are the real goals behind it? Are the fishermen being exploited, and are there other forces at play? Join us as we uncover the real story behind this high-stakes maritime drama.
【Guests】
Yan Yan
Director, Research Center of Oceans Law & Policy
National Institute for South China Sea Studies
Anton Fedyashin
Associate Professor of History
American University
Warwick Powell
Adjunct Professor, Queensland University of Technology
Victor Gao
Chair Professor, Soochow University
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All of us want peace not war follow the international law then we have peace and live in harmony
Restrain and Negotiations is what the uS dislike.
US likes conflicts, division, heit, ... Is what History has taugth us about US meddling and interfering around the world. For dominance.
China’s problem is that it doesnt acknowledge international law. What they want is the law for them. Its pathetic for them to have that bad attitude
Excellent program, commentators have very solid points from all aspects to explain this regional issue, the core issue left is, is Marcos jr.’s life and his parents’ many billions of wealth (essentially the Philippine people’s tax money) at immediate stake if he does not obliged to the u s war regime’s open demands ?
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Internation law is firm in this case, 200nm is the eez of the philippines. China doeant understand that
I notice the Spratly Island Group is less than 500 miles from Thanh Pho (Ho Chi Minh City), Viet Nam, but over 700 miles to Manila, Philippines. Could the U.S. be trying to pull another Gulf of Tonkin incident with Norwegian speed boats from Da Nang again?
Greed is comes from the demons,,cause war hatred
You do great interviews.
Excellent feedback on the real reasons for the current tensions in the area. ASEAN countries can solve all issues peacefully; keep US out of an area who does not belong 21:51 21:52 to.
It seems that many people confused EEZ with soverignty. EEZ does not automatically means that you have sovereignty over the islands within the EEZ. Whoever has the sovereignty over the islands would then establish its own territorial water and EEZ beyond that! Hence, the struggle over sovereignty of these uninhabited islands. UNCLOS does not deal with the question of sovereignty!
Sovereignty lies with the people. How can you claim sovereignty of uninhabited islands. People are the sovereign.
I hope most Philippines people can read. Please read this book compiled by a British scholar from most of the archives in British, French, US, etc and the book is called " The history of South east Asia Souverignty".
This is not a proper platform for that, tell that to your China and bring it to international court, bring all you evidence, and why is it very hard for China to do that?.
That is correct,, and mind you Filipinos are well readers, they can understand english well most of them unlike chinese, its 21st century already and yet many chinese dont understand english nor can speak.
Why rely to a book? There is international court
Just let Philipinos experience what the Ukrainian did against Russia. In turn the Philipinos lesson will teach other Asian countries the lessons to be US proxies
@@herta3286 ur spelling of philipinos is incorrect. Read a book huh? Learn basic spelling my friend
Time God stand Justice all over the world
Bullies are always the big guys, rich guys and the powerful guys, the bullied are always the small, the poor and the weak.
The bullies are also few, the bullied are the majority, the commoners.
Ponder......
Liu is a GREAT moderator. 🙂 👍
It is a Philippines' drama (not conflict) which ASEAN does not care, and you know why.
Well, your contention wrecks of malice not based on the premise of truth that china's greed and rude expansionism resulted to this chaos. If only china behaves as a responsible and respectable member of the international community who follows international law, not its self imposed illegal claims which was invalidated by 2016 Arbitral ruling, none of this so called "drama" will ever happen. We cant rely on ASEAN wholly on this coz china is gagging up some members as we all very well know. So we're doing our best to counter china's bullying. That's the sad truth. 🤷♀️🇵🇭💪
Well done china, keep on top of the situation, yes totally agree communication is key , and keep it all peaceful, otherwise the US will try and influence military conflict
LOL pro China shills on US 🇺🇲 social media 🤣
Oh and just so you know the thing between us and China is going to happen no matter what.
This guy Prof Warwick is pretty good....As usual, the elephant in the room is always the US....
26:27 There should be discussion within 5 countries.
USA position can change, but in reality at the end of the day, USA still hasn't and still does not recognize Philippines claims and Philippines sovereignty over the disputed territories(spratleys) in the south China seas.
USA can say whatever if wants like "we are ironclad defense treaty allies" but in reality China is giving Philippines ships water cannons and playing bumper cars with them repeatedly. Everytime pH sails it's ships fo challenge China's ships, US warships are nowhere to be seen. Even after pH gave USA new military bases USA has permanent presence in the SCS and go out of their way fo act like they are the undisputed hegemon and can and will beat Chin anytime it wants.
US talks big but when it comes down to it and pH challenges China and needs US support, they are nowhere to be seen.
Someone let me know when usa even recognizes pH's claims let alone heko them defend or enforce their claims. Because I don't think it will ever happen. Same as usa will never recognize TW independence nor defend TW.bin fact USA will never fight China directly unless China directly attacks USA mainland first since China is a nuclear superpower and peer competitor who can turn hss info a nuclear wasteland and decimate every single major city(with 50,000+ people) in USA in 30 minutes or less with one phone call or the press of a single button.
Philippines or Taiwan or Japan or anyone would never be worth such a price. There would be nowhere for the US president, US Congres, their families/relatives/friends or even their pets to hide in such a war. So USA can talk big all they want, it will never change reality and their actions show that they all understand these objective facts very well. It is why USA has kept wanting to reopen lines/channels of communication at the highest levels between US military and Chinas PLA in order to "avoid misunderstandings".
It's why even usas highest general and chief if staff directly rang his Chinese counterpart to reassure China about this or that after Pelosis TW visit.
I bet the same thing has happened for SCS and Philippines, and that's why no US ship has ever sailed with pH since China has warned USA that if they did, China would consider it as USA taking sides+an act of war and China would then be forced to respond and act accordingly.. just like they did during the Korean war and Vietnam war. And usa knows full well how that ended.. and that was against a backwards China in crippling poverty with no technology, no air force, no navy, no armor, no production, nothing. and USA also had SK and +17 other UN countries combined to back them up in Korea yet still lost handily. Today China is peer competitor who is even ahead of usa in many areas. The writing is on the wall and usa knows it. Only the dumbest and weakest vassals with puppets who cannot resist and who don't care about their own country like BongBong would follow USA off the cliff.
Today I just came across a video clip from a Filipino guy from Philippines Institute For Development Studies, who talked about the lies as reported by many western media about big Chinese coastguard boats ramming small Filipino boats. He said they are all lies.
NB: I tried to copy & paste the video clip here but we're unsuccessful
ya, fishing on troubled water
water canon and now detain and what next? where is the peace?
Philipine revoked the treaty and changed the status quo, China of course will change. Whatever philipine change to attempt to provoke ASEAN countries, China will response to stabilize the region.
FOLLOW INTERNATIONAL LAW
FOLLOW INTERNATIONAL LAW
FOLLOW INTERNATIONAL LAW
@@vonedwardgranel6391what telling your overlord master murica to follow international law first?
Testing the Western Matrix.
26:17 Agree with you on this Yan Yan it should only be to those ASEAN countries involve. You are right regarding maritime delimitation however China will never settle giving up large portion of SCS as per UNCLOS and that's the big problem there.
The Philippines president has certain agenda
West Philippines Sea covers the 200 nautical miles Exclusive Economic Zone of Philippines as stipulated in 1982 UNCLOS. It is not disputed. Scarborough Shoal is within the PH EEZ.
But an EEZ is international waters and is not sovereignty only fishing and oil rights. UNCLOS does not give the Spratly Islands or the Scarborough Shoal to the Philippines.
@Bk6346
We know it's international waters, and any nation can have innocent passage or freedom of navigation. However, UNCLOS stipulated that PH has the sovereign rights and jurisdiction over its EEZ.
@@fernandocruz4877 Sovereign rights but not sovereignty. EEZ is exclusive economic zone which is fishing and oil rights. 12 miles territorial waters is sovereignty but an 200 miles EEZ is not. The Scarborough Shoal and Spratly Islands are disputed territory and are not recognized as Philippines territory under UNCLOS.
@Bk6346
PH never claims sovereignty on its EEZ, only sovereign rights and jurisdiction. Sovereignty and sovereign rights are different. It is the CCP who claimed sovereignty of almost the entire SCS. That's a violation of international law (UNCLOS). You can't claim a big chunk of the high sea to the detriment of its neighbours and other nations.
if Pinoy keeps insisting on EEZ then the India EEZ has all of Maldives as its territory ~~!!
Victor there is the treaty of washington between SPanish and America Treaty between the United States and Spain for the Cession to United States of any and all islands of the Philippine Archipelago lying outside of the lines described in Article III of the treaty of peace of December 10, 1898. Signed at Washington November 7, 1900. Ratification advised by the Senate January 22, 1901.
Fishing in trouble water will scared away the fish from the South China Sea. Therefore China and Philippines should talk on peaceful coexistence not to scare away the fish
When countries adopt pro - American policies to the detriment they should not be sanctioned by their former regional allies, but briefed instead on the clandestine activities of organizations such as the CIA.
I mean you're using US social media.
She is such an Adorable Nerd English Major. Wow. 🤿 🛎️
She is married to a white guy !!!
自然界的「接壤」現象告訴我們，南海屬於好幾個國家，不屬於中國一國。譬如太平洋，它接壤很多國家。很多國家只擁有一小塊太平洋。沒一國獨吞太平洋。其他任何海洋皆如是。故，南海絕不能由任何一國獨吞。如中國要獨吞，全人類必反對。
笑了，反对无效
This Podcast has speakers from four different countries to reveal the truth about the events happening in the S. China Sea with Philippine. It also directs to the corrupt PBBM to stay calm and not to create more tension in the events which may lead Philippine into the Proxy War against China, that is Filipinos fighting to the last man, that is a catastrophic disaster for Philippine.
No not at all, if China gets into it with the Philippines they get into it with us directly.
As the external troublemaker US holds veto power over any peace deal between China and the Philippines it will take forever to come to any finality over this territorial issue! Therefore best action is to physically recover and reassert Chinese soveereignty over these Chinese territorial properties!
All people around the world kow about u all friends
The point that president Marco junior is working for FBI now
Only China Russia can stop big bully
Why there is no representative from the philippines?
why? do you have reps from china on your media?
@@wymmyw8744yes, alot of paid lackeys as part of infiltrating strategy of china. You should be ashamed of how china shamelessly disrupts Philippines internal affairs by spying and bribing officials and proliferating trolls
One sided interview hahahaha
@@wymmyw8744no filipino side, ohh so one sided..
One sided Interview!!! FOLLOW THE INTERNATIONAL LAW period!!! 👊
WHY you are in EEZ OF PHILIPPINES
They see zero unlawful behavior of china😅
Why doesn't China simply physically recover and reassert its legal sovereignty over its SCS territories? All these late claimants are motivated by territorial greed after hearing news of huge oil reserves discoveries in the SCS. Where were they back in 5000BC to make their claims when tgese islands were discovered, occupied and owned by Chinese fishernen?
Atin ito was funded by CIA and under sen hontiveros. A well known amboy. And i believe it reached it goals. To create chaos and misunderstanding in the disputed. I hope it will not affect the fishing of our fishermen. We are a poor nation.
If China pursue to arrest the Filipino in Exclusive Economic Zone of the Philippines by their new Law.. the Only Philippines could do is encourage US, Australia, Japan and other like minded countries to patrol in West Philippine Sea to safeguard the freedom of Navigation 😊
Talking about self restrain while water cannoning, ramming, dangerous maneuver and collision of philippine coastguard😅
Really !!!!! ???
Imaginary Line from 9 to 10 DASH LINE. Next 11, Next 12, Next 13 DASH LINE 😂
These fishermen.. Are they all real fishermen? 😂
no! some of them are political activists🤣 same as china using militia vessels
Are Chinese militia fishing in EEZ of Philippines? I think not, grey zone tactics and crushing corals building artificial island.
12:25 The following Treaties govern the Philippines:
1. Treaty of Paris 1989
2. Treaty of Washington 1900
3. Treaty between US and British 1930
So you got the No.1 but you intentionally missed out the 2nd and 3rd.
It is the right of every Filipino to go where our EEZ is and wherever we have sovereign rights and jurisdiction. You have no right to tell us who can go anywhere in our territories as long as they are Filipinos too aside from our fishermen. The problem is China doesnt know how to respect such things and the international law. China only wants to follow what it wants, doesnt care about the rights of it's neighbors. Thats the sad truth. 😢
You might want to talk to Duterte and see his views. He was your two term president, he know more than you do. Please do
@@herta3286 two term president?? Ahh, another china ignorance haha
@@herta3286 we abhor duterte for doing the wrong diplomatic means, it's not justifiable and not in conformance to our constitution. Most of Filipinos are angry about this, except your paid trolls. In fact he might be tried for this wrong doing coz it's clearly favorable to china not to us, so ashamed he became our president. But whatever it is since it is not legally binding as there is no solid signed evidence of that particular agreement and not ratified by our Senate and congress, that is being rescinded by the current admin. So i hope china understands that but it doesnt want to coz it's not favorable to them. Stop being selfish and rudely and illegaly invading other nations territories, that's the first thing...🤷♀️
@@vonedwardgranel6391OK, I see you do read. I know Duterte served from 2016 to 2022. Did you read what he said with the Chinese beside the US won't die for the Philipinos ? Did you read leaked phone call Jan this year ?
@@UOM2812I really don't care about the dispute and if PH goes to war with China, I'd to see the outcome beside the US won't die for the PH
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Hirap na ba kayo china? Ginusto nyo yan eh, panindigan nyo yan😅
So unfortunate that the Philippines has embedded in their psyche a deep colonial mentality. THey are so enamored by the US and continued to be subjected to the US machination! I grew up chinese in the Philippines. The Philippines govt had always had some sort of prejudices against Chinese immigrants since end of second world war. Even though Chinese descendants have also succeeded in integrated into the elite political class. The Chinese diaspora generally done well as merchants in SE Asia, and contributed to the growth of the local economy. But the Philippines and its people especially love the US! Go figure that! ( SAD deep COLONIZED mentality)!
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@@TacticalMayo Great example of love for the Devil! Whew! Haha!
@@MsOceanstar LOL listen to the axis of evil glorifier 🤣
That's normal because they don't want you there.
We's rather align to US than the greedy china who doesnt respect other nations. A shameless, gaslighter who resorts to lying everyday thru daily briefings insisting their delusional claim in all SCS despite being invalidated by the 2016 Unclos arbitral ruling in favor to the Philippines.
- дај ми папир документ ископине ко је прије тамо
- завршен случај
//ако сте ви прије а ви имате контиуитет томе да сте као народ народи држава царевина или ма што томе
- та онда ваше
Some how I smell RAT why no Philippine. present on this discussion according to international law of the sea 200 miles exclusive economic belong to Philippine from their shore
Hirap na kayo ipagtanggol ang china noh??🤣
习主席，告诉普京总统，如果俄罗斯解体，下一个就是中国。
普京总统也告诉习主席，如果中国解体，俄罗斯也会解体。我们何不一起努力。😅😂❤
" give a man a fish and he will live for a day, teach a man to go fishing and he will live forever " wise old Chinese proverb. The West will have to understand that China is an allied to anyone that want to live for the well being of all . This comment is for you Mr. Victor Gao.
Well Philippine issue is very different from Ukraine.
23:05 I hope all of you are not blind why there's a recent increase in tension. You are asking for bilateral talks while building artificial island and stealing Scarborough Shoal how absurd is that.
when cn 1st claimed the Islands Philippines was not even a Country yet
7:11 So do you think the Philippines will just accept China's illegal activities in the West Philippine Sea the building of artificial island in Mischief Reef, destruction of coral reefs, preventing Filipinos to fish in Scarborough Shoal? Well I can understand Vietnam because based from arbitral award their claim is also in question.
Philippines have been given 6years yet just take advantage and built military facilities in Mischief reef.
The West Philippine Sea is still international waters. The 2016 Hague ruled in favor of the Philippines 200 miles EEZ but never ruled who the islands in the South China Seas. An EEZ is not sovereignty only fishing and oil rights. UNCLOS does not give the Spratly Islands or the Scarborough Shoal to the Philippines.
@@Bk6346 You said The Hague ruled in favor of the Philippines 200NM EEZ (which we refer as the West Philippine Sea) then again referring it as a international waters??? When a country has a sovereign rights to its waters you call international waters? That's absurd 😪😂😂😂
@@greatzaliv993 An exclusive economic zone (EEZ), as prescribed by the 1982 United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea, is an area of the sea in which a sovereign state has exclusive rights regarding the exploration and use of marine resources, including energy production from water and wind.
It stretches from the outer limit of the territorial sea (22.224 kilometres or 12 nmi from the baseline) out 370.4 kilometres (or 200 nautical miles) from the coast of the state in question. It is also referred to as a maritime continental margin and, in colloquial usage, may include the continental shelf. The term does not include either the territorial sea or the continental shelf beyond the 200 nautical mile limit. The difference between the territorial sea and the exclusive economic zone is that the first confers full sovereignty over the waters, whereas the second is merely a "sovereign right" which refers to the coastal state's rights below the surface of the sea. The surface waters are international waters.
China should make their own Artificial Planet so the world would be peaceful.
Do not detain Filipino . Nor any of our Allies .
Detaining anyone will only create instability in the region .
Philippines should be happy it's china not America. We all know what America does to people it can bully around..... Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam etc ..... The Philippines is just a pawn for America.
The only reason why China don't want a 3rd party involved is it weaken China's any attempt of being full steam ahead bully. Cos China know it foil their plan.
Leave the Filipino fishermen alone . A man deserve his source of income to live on .
You can't even take care mindanao yet want this small island!!!
@@seangaunour problem is ours to solve. Just get out of Philippines seas coz china us illegally invading us. Shameless troll.
@seangaun Mindanao is integral part of PHILIPHINES . The Islam population there is part of majority Christian PHILIPHINES .
So I think u need to look at ur own government action on rapid economic industrialisation urbanisation . That your country had created soil erosion and Flooding in your country right now .
Mother Nature unleash it's wrath on your country .
The ecological disaster that your country created with land reclamation in the sea to set up a military base is illegal. Period . Put ur house in order 1st before u criticise our imperfect government . We know our government not perfect . But you all in denial of ur government bullying tactic in the West Philliphine Sea.
Unlike your government we don't try to step on our neigbour claim base on UNCLOS RULING .
BUT YOUR COUNTRY GOVERNMENT DISREGARD ALL OF UR NEIGHBOUR RIGHTS AND SOVEREIGNTY
China said the whole Pacific Ocean belongs to them
No they did not. Stop spreading lies, and stop meddling in Asian affairs american
@@DankKeifman420 The 9 dash line is the biggest lie peddled by China. Who are you to tell who can get involved?
And you know what The indigenous people of Taiwan were Austronesians not Hans, so that basically proves its not Historically chinese Province and we're linking each other being brothers in blood.
So what? The Han are the majority now and control the island.
4:26 The Philippines will definitely come back with bilateral talks if China accept the arbitral ruling.
The ‘arbitration’ you’re referring to was done without China; if one party isn’t invited, it’s not an arbitration, and therefore invalid.
@@mattwaite5558 Luh?
@@mattwaite5558China was invited but refused to attend. No courts would ever function if any one party would not attend! It is legal and valid as the claims can be discussed in absentia
Som of us understand China. All organisations existing today are created by white supremacist to fit their AGENDAS. They is history to take into account.
@@mattwaite5558as if china will attend? U know the guilty one will not show up
China should firmly confront to the foreign adversaries not to fish in the trouble water else hell Merry will rise from the bottom of the sea.
Why China can't give to PHL the part being contested cuz China is already big and well develop?
2:33 the first one is for China not the Philippines.
It's obvious that Americans want to disrupt one of the busiest shipping areas in the world to weaken South East Asia.
The Philippine government is easily manipulated by the US.
16:12 This is a very wrong statement Pres. Marcos himself as President of the Philippines it is his duty to protect the Philippine territory.
Why always connect US?
Because the US is his master. See my comment below.
Research history of US imperialism and CIA activities in the east, you may find answers there.
@@pottedrodenttubethe moment you hear imperialism stay away from them because they are left, they are the enemy.
this is a media arm of the China. Of course this will always be biased towards china
@@pottedrodenttubethe fact of China's shameless and rude expansionism is the root cause of instability in the scs, not the alliance of US and Philippines.
China has disputes with every its nebour😅 like india bhutan, Philippines and so on
These said countries are us p00dles.
4:08 Philippines never raise tension in the South China Sea it doesn't have the capabilities to do that. Remember who is the one firing water canon.
It is not real gun, just water gun😂
@@huangzongming8226yet it hurt our navy personnel and destroyed parts of the ship.
@@UOM2812 China has been patient for dealing with this dispute since last year. I hope this can be settled through negotiations rather than confrontation.
@@huangzongming8226 but china always presents conditions that's only favorable to them and violates Philippine constitution, who can agree with that? China always resorts to hearsay talks to make everyone believe that it is indeed seeking peaceful means but in reality with impossible conditions. Stop deception. Stop bullying, water canoning us when we are only exercising our sovereign rights doesnt bode well to you and speaks volumes of your own conduct. That's the first thing to resolve issues. Then stop spying and using trolls to disrupt our own system. And also, respect international law, accept that the 2016 Hague arbitral ruling invalidated your 10 dash line claim. I know the truth is hard to swallow. But if you believe your cause then by all means let's go to international courts to settle the dispute.
@@huangzongming8226 but china's conditions are impossible, only favorable to them. It violates our constitution, how can Philippines agree with that? China resorts to tactics to make everyone believe that it is using diplomatic means but in reality it constantly bullies and gaslights what's happening in the SCS. So when we exposed china, it gets angry, turning the tables on us. China is funny. Lol. Our truth will always be there, the 2016 Hague arbitral ruling invalidated your 9 or 10 or 11 dash claim but instead of peacefully accepting this china opts to bullying, water canoning, denying our access to our Shoal. Yeah, lets talk but if you still believe your delusions let's then go back to international courts. I really hope china does cooperate rather than showing its might that continuously make them look bad in the international arena.
South China Sea belongs to Vietnam
Please take video of me fishing in possible warzone area so I can look like a victim to the world. Nice propaganda
Is it a warzone area or a civilian area? What an ignorant comment!
Not unlike your demonizing propaganda. China can never be defeated in propagandas, you are experts in gaslighting. You take that crown. Dont point fingers to our fishermen.
Very bias interview with pro China...simple Filipino fisherman can defend the Philippines from your foolish narratives...haha
Crazy greedy chinese.
Chinese propaganda will never win!
Not propaganda, learn the truth, don't be blinded.