Few times (if not ever once) have I heard such an well-researched narration of a historical series of events that happened in my country from a foreigner. Mad respects to you Spirit Of The Law.
Great video, Spirit, I am Venezuelan, I have been learning about these events from several decades and sources and I think you made an amazing summary. I want to comment 2 things: The Wikipedia articles changed the numbers dramatically in 6 years since the video posted, and also that I have discovered from a Catholic Class a nicer version and outlook of Cortes. But this video gives me even more homework to check probably one of the most interesting moments of La Conquista! and Cortes being probably the most polemic historic figure, but truth is that after the apparition of the Virgen of Guadalupe in 1531 millions of natives converted by a type of apocalyptic revelation of conscience. My point at the end is that God's plan was unveiled given the high conversion rate. It's actually around the same time the Catholic Church splits because of the Luterans.
Two things worth mentioning as well: Eagle Warriors or *cuāuhpipiltin* were part of the Aztec nobility while the ranks of the Jaguar Warriors, or *ocēlōpipiltin*, were comprised by freemen. The campaign opens with Cuauhtémoc, who was a nobleman in real life, being promoted from Eagle Warrior to Jaguar Warrior, when the opposite might have been more accurate. The same could be said about the in-game mechanics-the Jaguar Warriors being Castle Age units trained straight from the Castle while the Eagle Scout/Warrior/Elite Warrior line being produced at the Barracks starting at the Feudal Age; technically, it should be the other way around. That Eagle Warriors were deployed mainly as scouts and that Jaguar Warriors were frontline soldiers is accurate though; that the Mayans and Incans can train Eagle Warriors as well, not so much. Also, in the campaign cutscenes, Cuauhtémoc mentions receiving a "macana" as a gift. It'd be more accurate to call it a *macuahuitl*, which is that very distinctive Aztec club-sword embedded with rows of obsidian blades on the sides and which Jaguar Warriors use in-game. Very good video, SotL. And I think this could make for a very good series of its own.
Such names are rather difficult to pronounce, to those that haven't studied nahuatl. The eagle warriors were also called Cuauhocelotl or simply cuauhtli. The jaguar warrior, who indeed were usually part of the macehualtin class, were simply called ocelomeh.
Isolated words, at least, I don't find that hard to pronounce. Writing them (down) can be a bit tricky, yeah, but pronouncing them is pretty straightforward; using Spanish phonemes helps.
I'd be interested in knowing which campaigns/scenarios people are most interested in seeing in the future. Take a second to vote if you have the chance - you can pick multiple campaigns: goo.gl/aKwtNP
Fun fact: 4-5 decades after the Fall of Tenochtitlan, the Spanish set up a trade route from Acapulco, Mexico to Manila, Philippines lasting until the early 19th century. In short, it is said that Aztec (as well as Mayan) survivors came to the Philippines as either prisoners, slaves or servants and lived out their lives there as it's believed that the Tagalog language has some Nahuatl words in it and that it also gave birth to Chavacano, which is based of the same Spanish spoken in Mexico.
I studied Mesoamerican cultures in high school and college, so I really love this Moctezuma himself might have been concerned about the Omens, as he was struggling with the high priests for religious authority. He claimed to have a supernatural vision himself seeing the invaders. He basically was trying to make the traditional priests redundant and usurp religious authority. The first mission I think is really just establishing Mexican warfare-that the Aztecs fought various other native nations, that control of temples and other religious centers was important, and the importance of both the Flower War tactic (equivalent to medieval knights or samurai challenging their opposite members to honorable combat) and the religious piety of the Aztecs. By the way, Jaguar Knights were promoted to Eagle Knights, not the other way around. Likewise, they had the same equipment and tactical role. The Triple Alliance is anachronistic at this point. By this time, they were clearly just extensions of Tenochitlan's power, and their resistance was defeated by Moctezuma's predecessors Killing and economical conquest did play a part in Aztec Warfare. However, it was considered more heroic to take prisoners. In addition to sacrifices, captured enemies would also be used as domestic slaves, doing menial labor to keep the common people or macehualin busy farming. The Third mission is also ahistorical-the Spanish did not enter open conflict with the Aztec until the rising in Tenochtitlan. There were various cities that fought the Spanish, but most were conquered or allied. In fact, the alliance between the Spanish and Tlaxcallans was a result of an indecisive battle where the Tlaxcallans learned the value of Spanish shock tactics and the Spanish learned of the resistance against the Aztec empire The peace with the Spanish was opposed by most of the Aztec nobility but overruled by Moctezuma himself. It might have been his being intimidated, or it could have been the fact that it was after the campaign season was over, or finally that he was hoping to win them over to fight the Tlaxcallans once and for all as mercenaries. Whatever his reasons, Moctezuma was extremely courteous and welcoming. Basically, what happened was that Cortes overwhelmed Moctezuma with his personality. At any point the Spanish could have been captured and executed, but Cortes probably kept Moctezuma guessing on his intentions and capabilities. It's even possible Moctezuma hoped to use his new Spanish "friends" to help maintain a political advantage in court. The riots also had the backing of the Aztec aristocracy. While Moctezuma was a hostage, they selected that his cousin Cuitlahuac be appointed the new emperor, which is why they didn't really stop to mourn Moctezuma. I really dislike the Noche Triste mission ,as you have a fixed force, without blacksmith upgrades, fighting against a timer and a heavily entrenched enemy. The terrain and units at the Otumba mission is completely ahistorical. It was fought in fields, the Aztecs lost (however, this IS an Aztec campaign so historical what ifs are possible), and the Aztecs never even attempted to use Spanish horses or gunpowder as they were completely alien to them. I completely disagree with the analysis that the Spanish conquest was inevitable--it really was down to Moctezuma playing it safe, and Cortes playing it risky. The Aztecs actually taunted the Spanish as the Spanish destroyed their buildings-saying something like if the Aztecs won, the Spanish would rebuilt the city for them, and if the Aztecs lost, they'd have to rebuild the city anyway. Trivia: The Aztecs would put sharp stakes in the water to fight the larger Spanish ships, and would seeming leave causways undefended as bait for the Spanish. In one of the bridge battles, they caught Cortes off his horse. However, before he could be dragged off for public execution (something the sacrifices also functioned as), another Spanish soldier sacrificed his life fighting the Aztec warriors so that Cortes could escape.
And much after all that, we appear, (modern Mexicans) everything, so that the president of modern Rome makes fun of us and wants to surround us with a wall :v
Please, I need the source of this "In one of the bridge battles, they caught Cortes off his horse. However, before he could be dragged off for public execution (something the sacrifices also functioned as), another Spanish soldier sacrificed his life fighting the Aztec warriors so that Cortes could escape."
"The Aztecs actually taunted the Spanish as the Spanish destroyed their buildings-saying something like if the Aztecs won, the Spanish would rebuilt the city for them" This sounds really interesting. Would you mind providing the source for this statement? :)
I know this is really late, but as a note on the La Noche Triste mission: you’re supposed to use your monks to convert villagers and build up a base. The scenario isn’t designed to be won with only a fixed force.
but the last scenario in saladin is so frickin' difficult!!!!! i usually play the scenarios on hard difficulty but i find it difficult to complete the last one even on moderate difficulty. there's just too many enemies and the wonder just doesn't stand...
I can assure you it's doable. I bought AoE on steam summer sale and finished almost all campaigns - I am hesitant to play one but last, because it seems so empty with stripped out dubbings :( Too bad after campaigns there's nothing to do in this game - multiplayer is just virtually impossible to play, because of the giant delays.
+JoeyFantasia you're probably right on this. The turtle ships are probably an Easter egg referring to the famous admiral Zheng He. Some say he made it all the way to the Americas from Asian. He was however chinese, not Korean :p
This is actually the last time a trebuchet was used in warfare. To ease the demands on their gunpowder supplies they attempted to build a trebuchet, but none of them were actually familiar with the technology, so it broke on the first shot.
The quality of this video is undeniably way above the average youtube video. Keep it up Spirit, and pleaaaseee make this a series i'd watch every single one of them.
Loved those twisted endings in campaign stories, like with Barbarossa story, when it turns out that narator is Henry the Lion, or in Attila the Hun, when it turns out that father Armand is former Hun solider. :)
be a bit quick tbh, Joan never did any fighting, gave one speech, followed around the french army for a while cockteasing them into fighting better, then got captured by the English and burnt to death.
Joan was an impessive chick. She was 16 when she, a girl, that could only write her own name and was a daughter of peasants, stood in front of the king and made him consider her as the right choice. She stood up for herself and dude, she was so confident I admire her. She indeed did not fight in the front; yet she was captured by Johann II, he sold her to the Brgund, and they sold her to John of Lancester, who then sold her to Rouen where she was convicted of being a murderer and a witch. c:
This is certainly one of your better videos on this channel and I'd love to see you make a series out of it. Personally I'm fascinated with the AoE campaigns, not because of their difficulty or lack thereof(well obviously) but because of the history behind it. Whether it's historical facts, alternative historical scenarios or a mixture, as the campaigns tend to go in all those directions. I also personally love to learn about history through games like AoE, the various Total War games, Paradox titles, etc, and due to the various inaccuracies in all said games I appreciate this series even more. As it splits the historical truths from the non truths which were added for game play or other reasons.
I've subscribed to you when you only have about 200 subs... and know you grow alot.... but this is the thing that I love about you.. which is... your channel is just really constant and your commentaries is just the same....always really logic
What an excellent comparison, maybe I am mexican, but doesn't make an expert on the subject, but you reiterated which imo was the most important reason of the aztec fallout, which is the political situation arround the "conquista", the "mexicas" (how aztecs called themselves), were trying to unify the revolting cities arround the capital, tecnically the rest of what is now the south of mexican territory. Nowadays a lot of students (mainly elementary/ middle school) think that we could have won the conquista, just by cheer number and territory advantage, but tenochtitlan had none, plus we had still powerfull enemies at the north and south of the country; another thing is that the tecnoligical and tactical advantage was way stronger for the spanish and at the end they had the upper hand. Nowadays even if it was a tragic aspect of the fundation of my country, I found it to be the one that makes my contry unique, the music, food and trditions that we are proud of are made from themixing between mesoamerican and spanish cultures. Also something that I find cool is that you can also visit the first town and house that Cortez fond in New spain, Is called La antigua and is few hours from my hometowns :P. Thanks a lot for this hope I can do my own research before yo get to make the new episode.
Angel Canseco Indeed I do that part is really important, but for me are the factors that weren't brought by the spanish the ones that are really interesting, these coincidenses that made an easier battle against native americans.
Congrats on hitting 50k subscribers! You deserve it man. Your videos are informative and entertaining, with top-notch production values and a great sense of humour. Also, maybe this is just me, but I love your voice. It's so relaxing and cute and uhhh... Canadian. Good work man and keep it up!
A series would be cool. I'd definitely want to the do the main campaigns for the Conquerors and probably Age of Kings. Not sure yet about the stand-alone Conqueror scenarios, like Hastings. This was probably the most fun I've had making a video for the channel, so I'm definitely inclined to do more.
This was a great video, so I hope you're going to make more. Age of Empires is what got me into history when I was a kid, and I have fond memories of many of these campaigns. Hearing some background information behind them, packaged so neatly, would be great.
Great vid. Looking forward to more of this. Playing the AoE campaigns as a kid was one of the things that triggered my interest in history. Keep up the good work.
I was wondering the same when I played in HD . X was supposed to be /∫/ and not /ks/ and there is no way they could ve not known that . The old one had the fakest accent .
Hey, Spirit, I happen to be a very obsessed Roman history buff, and I would be more than happy to help out with an "Attila the Hun" Campaigns VS History episode. Alternatively, if you prefer to work alone but wish to do an episode on Attila, I would highly recommend "Aetius: Attila's Nemesis" by Ian Hughes as it is a fantastic book chalked full of information on the man, the myth, and the legend. The background info is summarized, but the main characters of this turbulent time are described in amazing detail, along with confident reconstructions of events. I find the documentaries on youtube to be rather lacking and of an average quality for historical accuracy and information, but they're good starters none the less. In addition, if you'd like to learn some background information on the decline of the Roman empire that led up to the time in which Attila would rise, there's "Imperial Brothers" and "Stilicho: The Vandal Who Saved Rome" both by Ian Hughes, "Failure of Empire" by Noel Lenski, and "The Roman Army" by Patricia Southern.
I actually really appreciate this video, as kid it always confused as to why they did what they did with the gun powder/horse stuff and also why they changed the ending. Even as kid I was a skeptic especially after my grandpa bought me a book about Spanish and Aztec relations because he could tell it was something me and my dad were interested in. So thanks for this cleared up some gaps for me.
It's funny when a regiomontano or a yucateco calls himself "azteca", or like my crush (already denied), who is proud of her Spanish inheritance (her grand-grandfather was Spanish) and talks about "our culture" referring to Aztec mythology...
@@MrlspPrt let them have it. Aztec, and native culture is Mexican legacy now. But yeah, another thing is blood. And I know I have some Tlaxcaltec and Chichimeca bits to be proud of! All in all, our country is awesome!
One thing that's ahistorical is all the trebuchets. They were never developed in the Americas and no longer in use by Europeans. The Spanish built just one after running low on or out of gunpowder, but none of them knew how to adjust the sling length properly and it fired only once directly upwards. This was the last recorded "use" of a trebuchet in warfare. Actually, most of the Aztec unit mix is ahistorical. Crossbows, swords, torsion engines, and blacksmiths were all Eurasian developments that were neither spread to nor independently developed in the Americas. Realistic Aztecs would be utterly unplayable. I think they were a bad choice of civilization to include in the game, as were the Mayans for the same reason.
Do you know the game American Conquest? How accurate is that depiction? I liked how they made armies with bigger numbers and lighter troops a choice to consider back when pathing lots of units through any terrain wasn't trivial on the machine yet. Made Native American factions nearly on par with European ones even though I found they were still easier to play against the AI. Also, _holy epic backstory_ in the campaigns!
Nathan Brown That was for the sake of balance. Some historical accuracy had to be sacrificed. Even with that, there are some AoE2 licences I can't forgive like: -The Chinese not having most gunpowder units, not even Siege Cannons. -The Spaniards not having Crossbowmen, while Aztecs and Mayans have them. (At least make those Archers stronger to make up for the lack of crossbows). -American civs having wheels on their Trade Carts. -Malians having gunpowder units, while Ethiopians don't. -Goths not having Stone Walls. And having Huskarls when those should be Viking or Anglo-Saxon (I believe Goths should be renamed Gothic or Germanic and are meant to represent all pre-Carolingian Germanic tribes rather than Visigoths and Ostrogoths).
@@AlexeiArwinson I don't know about the Inca but the Aztecs did know wheels and used them in toys but never in practice as the terrain made it comparably easier to carry things around then be thru wheel .
really hope this will be a new series in the future. I've been somewhat of an Aztec history nerd from a very young age, and Aoe was definitely a factor in that. keep it up man, your age of empires content is second to none on TH-cam!
Bravo! I have too few knowledge on the subject to judge what you said but i congratulate you anyway for the initiative. You are probably the best commentator on AOE2 game on youtube and you have raised a big step in seriousness here (and besides mathematic, was a great thing to do too, for education by fun, bravo for that too and make it attractive for young players). Education, even in a game, is not a thing lightly to take for me. As an historian of art, you have my encouragements (and all campaigns of AOE2 are interesting for me in the historical aspect, so I wish you a good work!).
Another Mistake is that they say that the Aztecs lived in a jungle, but that's wrong. The Mexico's center was originaly a forest, so it's wrong put the jaguars in the scenarios of the aztecs too. The part of México that has the jungle is the South (There were the Mayans). In our story books it's said that, actually, the aztecs thought that the spanish people were gods because of the horses and the full metal armour. I want to add some things: 1.-Tabasco was so far away from Tenochtitlán, Tabasco is in the coast of the Golfo de México, i don't know why they put them together in a scenario :0 2.- I don't know if is real but one of my teacher told us that la matanza de Cholula was provocated because Cortes realized that some people wanted to kill him and then he killed the poeple from Cholula like a signal of supremacy, that place was like a commercial place, so they didn't have so much weapons. 3.-The cities constructed over the lake are sinking, actually Mexico City sinkes 10 cm every single year o: 4.-The reason why the empire fall so fast is because Cortés used his frigates for cut the entrace of food, it take a month aproximatly, in that time Cortés was eating comfortably with the tlaxcaltecs 5.-The aztecs were very clean people, they even had a sewer system, the majority of the buildings in Tenochtitlan was painted white, and I found a video of how the city could looks th-cam.com/video/0BNEZMIfLLU/w-d-xo.html 6.-I thought the same when I played the last level, i was like wtf?, but it was pretty funny 👌 PD: I had visited that tree, it's pretty cool (I live so close). PD 2: I don't know why I see this kind of videos if i don't play the game anymore. Plus, I don't know why I'm seeing this if find it hard to understand English; man I love your channel even though I can't understand the whole videos.
Jaguars are capable of living in a wide variety of biomes, not only tropical rainforests. They can currently be found even in southern US. The historical range of the jaguar extended very close to the valley of Mexico, not to mention that they were many times more numerous 500 years ago, so it's extremely likely that the Aztecs encountered wild jaguars pretty often. On March 12, 1519, Hernán Cortés arrived to the city that Tabscoob ruled, Potonchán, in Tabasco, which was the first place in Mexico that was turned into a Spanish settlement (renamed Santa María de la Victoria); this was due to the native Chontal Mayans being defeated in the Battle of Centla, which was the first big battle between the Spanish and Mexican natives (if I'm not mistaken). Tabscoob maintained commercial ties with the Mexica, despite how unlikely such link might seem due to the geographical distance between these two peoples. So that's why Tabasco was included in this campaign. Also, turn on automatic captions; it's not perfectly accurate but it helps a lot if your oral comprehension is not enough to understand videos like these (where the narrator talks faster and more naturally) yet.
I like to make bullet point notes for myself ahead of time so things come in a logical order and I have all the numbers/names on hand. I wrote out full scripts for a few of my early videos but I think I sounded weird reading them so I stopped doing that. That being said, there's also a lot of editing I do to remove pauses and redo lines, so it's not exactly like I'm hitting Record and doing some one-take magic. I think the raw audio file in this video, for example, was 30ish minutes before I edited it down.
Good point. Perhaps one day I'll have the confidence to upload the 10+ hour compilation of awkward or incomplete sentences I've cut from my videos over the years
Great video SotL! And as many other say, it is really well researched. I'm glad to see that you continued with this series with other campaings. I don't know the others, but the reason I loved all the AoE games series is because they're historic games. And I guess that's the reason why they remain so popular in many parts of the world.
@@jarisalmazani5016 I don't think the timing of that works out, though, because from what I can find, that claim only became widespread in the years following the release of "The Conquerers."
Say what you will about Cortez but at least he was a self made man. Self made men in history (Cortez, hitler, Stalin, ghenghis khan, mousilini, Justinian, probably some others I can’t think of) always have the most interesting and impressive stories
Awesome video, Dood. I really enjoyed. I'm from Mexico and in my opinion you did a great job and the pronunciation was good too. :) Looking forward to see your Aztec overview. :D
This reminds me that one of the saddest things to happen to mankind is the complete destruction of Tenochtitlan. It would be so good if that city was still preserved... If I was Cortez I would immediately order the natives to repair it according to how it was supposed to be, but I guess that if I was him I would be too much of an asshole to do so.
don't forget the lakes, during the siege of tenochtitlan the levees were destroyed. After the conquest they were never rebuilt and mexico city was constantly flooding so they decided to drain the lakes. look up lake texcoco before and after conquest. There were like 5 interconnected lakes, xochimilco, chalco, texcoco, I cantvrenember that last one
ACtually, most of the city drawing still exists. If you look at the european cities at the time, the were pretty messy. Downtown in Mexico City still keeps most of the actual streets that existed at the time (not as streets, but water canals before the spanish conquest). In a way, still exists.
+Orch MusicMIX I remember reading an article for a presentation on chinampas. The study was to find the actual size of techtitkan at the time of conquest (not just the island but the increase in land from the creation of chinampas which were artificial islands made up of reeds and mud and trees) using the streets that were recorded in colonial times as a reference point
+Ro Calvo think the link should work, if it doesn't its called settlement pattern and chinamoa agriculture of tenochtitlan (sorry if the names wrong) www.jstor.org/stable/278892
I remembered getting taught in high school history of how europeans were seen as gods among the Aztecs, and how superior europeans were when it came to the conflict. It was really frustrating because I'm aboriginal and I disputed the teachers claims and he ended up failing me. I later heard after I graduated that a student beat the breaks off him and I later saw that student at a party and he told me all about it. For some reason I felt validated. That teacher was an ignorant piece of shit.
History is often complicated and made even messier by many competing political maneuvers. But when someone tries to summarize a major historical event in one phrase or two, they're bound to get it wrong no matter what they say.
MOS Aztecs and us Spaniards were both militaristic nations. The best one won. We were ruthless, we wete brutal and we dont give a fuck, grow some balls.
The best won? You mean diseases, plagues, and alliances? Current spaniards are left in ruins. From your perspective one could spin history however they want.
Why do you identify with the folks who conquered the Aztec confederation? Didn't you know that Spain, so as Mexico, did not exist at that time? The war was between Aztecs and Castilians, or if you want, between Mesoamericans and Westerners, never between Aztecs and Spaniards.
yes and no. Anyone can edit it, but when mistakes are found they revert it to a previous version and can block the ip address of the user that did the tampering to stop them from doing it any more. Wikipedia is good for general history and facts like the things covered in this video, and even provides links to sources that tend to be quite good.
It's also important to say that the english wikipedia has a gazillion people overwatching articles. And good articles (such as Tenochtitltan and Cortés) have more references than a Masters Thesis :P
To be honest the only major sin I find in Wikipedia is more often a lack of detail in some areas. You can get a good general idea of a subject by reading its subject page, but you're not going to become a masters-level expert on the topic just by reading it. But it is generally very accurate for the reasons stated before. This also said by someone whose began 'reading' more during his work hours because of audio-books. If you want to learn about a person as a character than a list of facts than seriously read a book.
Man... I just can say: awesome content, congratulations for the video (: I've became an Age of Empires fan because of my History classes back when I was a kid. I just can't count how many times I searched on Google some historical facts that I once saw in the game. This video just came in a rainy weekend to remember those days when I lost myself reading about Atila, Joan d'Arc, etc. Please, keep doing it!
Micael Gerosa Because in multiplayer you beat players with different skills, while in the campaign, you only beat AIs that in fact is easy to exploit if you can.
I enjoyed watching your depiction of the campaign and its comparison with actual history, as I have myself played this campaign with great interest and excitement. In AOE2 this was my most favourite campaign. It's a great story.
This may be my favourite video from you yet, and I think you sell yourself short on your historical rigour (or whatever you'd call it). A series like this that could eventually cover all campaigns (and maybe even battles of the conquerors?) would be absolutely fantastic if they're all as well researched as this one.
I actually found this video very intriguing and this campaign was my favorite one to play through first time. The Aztecs are one of my favorites to play and hopefully this means their civ overview comes out soon.
I sure did like this. I'm a big history fan and the history campaigns are the reason I started playing this game way back in the day. It does sound like a good series to continue. I hope to see more.
This is a very interesting format; I'd love to see a few more videos regarding the parallels and deviations between historical events or legends and AoE2 campaigns.
As a bit of a historian and statistician I love the way you're going with this. It would be awesome to see more of Spirit's Campaigns vs. History! It would be nice to do something on Gengis Khan and treat some of the misconceptions around that figure.
A small trivia side note, Spirit. If I recall correctly, at the beginning of the siege in 1517, Cortes was unable to use his cannons due to the humidity, and hence built a trebuchet (which may or may not had been effective). Thought it might catch your eye. Keep pumping this great work of yours! Cheers mate.
This is a great idea for a video series. I would love to know more about the historical aspect of AOE 2. And your narration makes it that much more interesting. (Y)
I always remember: "Out of my way, pig!!"
Few times (if not ever once) have I heard such an well-researched narration of a historical series of events that happened in my country from a foreigner. Mad respects to you Spirit Of The Law.
Better than History Channel for sure.
Le faltaron aliens, pero excelente historia. Bromas aparte: me impresiona que lo único que pronunció mal fueran palabras españolas.
Cool I am watching this for a homework assignment.
Great video, Spirit, I am Venezuelan, I have been learning about these events from several decades and sources and I think you made an amazing summary. I want to comment 2 things: The Wikipedia articles changed the numbers dramatically in 6 years since the video posted, and also that I have discovered from a Catholic Class a nicer version and outlook of Cortes. But this video gives me even more homework to check probably one of the most interesting moments of La Conquista! and Cortes being probably the most polemic historic figure, but truth is that after the apparition of the Virgen of Guadalupe in 1531 millions of natives converted by a type of apocalyptic revelation of conscience. My point at the end is that God's plan was unveiled given the high conversion rate. It's actually around the same time the Catholic Church splits because of the Luterans.
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Two things worth mentioning as well:
Eagle Warriors or *cuāuhpipiltin* were part of the Aztec nobility while the ranks of the Jaguar Warriors, or *ocēlōpipiltin*, were comprised by freemen. The campaign opens with Cuauhtémoc, who was a nobleman in real life, being promoted from Eagle Warrior to Jaguar Warrior, when the opposite might have been more accurate. The same could be said about the in-game mechanics-the Jaguar Warriors being Castle Age units trained straight from the Castle while the Eagle Scout/Warrior/Elite Warrior line being produced at the Barracks starting at the Feudal Age; technically, it should be the other way around. That Eagle Warriors were deployed mainly as scouts and that Jaguar Warriors were frontline soldiers is accurate though; that the Mayans and Incans can train Eagle Warriors as well, not so much.
Also, in the campaign cutscenes, Cuauhtémoc mentions receiving a "macana" as a gift. It'd be more accurate to call it a *macuahuitl*, which is that very distinctive Aztec club-sword embedded with rows of obsidian blades on the sides and which Jaguar Warriors use in-game.
Very good video, SotL. And I think this could make for a very good series of its own.
Such names are rather difficult to pronounce, to those that haven't studied nahuatl. The eagle warriors were also called Cuauhocelotl or simply cuauhtli. The jaguar warrior, who indeed were usually part of the macehualtin class, were simply called ocelomeh.
Isolated words, at least, I don't find that hard to pronounce. Writing them (down) can be a bit tricky, yeah, but pronouncing them is pretty straightforward; using Spanish phonemes helps.
Well, that is if you know spanish, of course.
Ottmar555 - I do.
stalwartarjuna There you go.
YAY! Will this be a new series? I sure hope so...
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I want more videos like this, NOW!
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me too! Teutons's campaign vs historical next
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+zfghty uuyghju Yes....
I'd be interested in knowing which campaigns/scenarios people are most interested in seeing in the future. Take a second to vote if you have the chance - you can pick multiple campaigns:
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Do Jean of Arc next! they label Switzerland as burgundy and show France as its modern day borders. ie. owning the duchy of burgundy.
Joan of Arc please!
I am thinking El cid or the Saladin campaign. anyway awesome video.
Very nice vedio...would love to see prithviraj, joan of arc, el cid, barbarossa, genghis khan campain also
The campaign i would like to see in the future is the "Saladin" Campaign which in my opinion is the most interesting and challenging so far.
Fun fact: 4-5 decades after the Fall of Tenochtitlan, the Spanish set up a trade route from Acapulco, Mexico to Manila, Philippines lasting until the early 19th century. In short, it is said that Aztec (as well as Mayan) survivors came to the Philippines as either prisoners, slaves or servants and lived out their lives there as it's believed that the Tagalog language has some Nahuatl words in it and that it also gave birth to Chavacano, which is based of the same Spanish spoken in Mexico.
I studied Mesoamerican cultures in high school and college, so I really love this
Moctezuma himself might have been concerned about the Omens, as he was struggling with the high priests for religious authority. He claimed to have a supernatural vision himself seeing the invaders. He basically was trying to make the traditional priests redundant and usurp religious authority.
The first mission I think is really just establishing Mexican warfare-that the Aztecs fought various other native nations, that control of temples and other religious centers was important, and the importance of both the Flower War tactic (equivalent to medieval knights or samurai challenging their opposite members to honorable combat) and the religious piety of the Aztecs.
By the way, Jaguar Knights were promoted to Eagle Knights, not the other way around. Likewise, they had the same equipment and tactical role.
The Triple Alliance is anachronistic at this point. By this time, they were clearly just extensions of Tenochitlan's power, and their resistance was defeated by Moctezuma's predecessors
Killing and economical conquest did play a part in Aztec Warfare. However, it was considered more heroic to take prisoners. In addition to sacrifices, captured enemies would also be used as domestic slaves, doing menial labor to keep the common people or macehualin busy farming.
The Third mission is also ahistorical-the Spanish did not enter open conflict with the Aztec until the rising in Tenochtitlan. There were various cities that fought the Spanish, but most were conquered or allied. In fact, the alliance between the Spanish and Tlaxcallans was a result of an indecisive battle where the Tlaxcallans learned the value of Spanish shock tactics and the Spanish learned of the resistance against the Aztec empire
The peace with the Spanish was opposed by most of the Aztec nobility but overruled by Moctezuma himself. It might have been his being intimidated, or it could have been the fact that it was after the campaign season was over, or finally that he was hoping to win them over to fight the Tlaxcallans once and for all as mercenaries. Whatever his reasons, Moctezuma was extremely courteous and welcoming.
Basically, what happened was that Cortes overwhelmed Moctezuma with his personality. At any point the Spanish could have been captured and executed, but Cortes probably kept Moctezuma guessing on his intentions and capabilities. It's even possible Moctezuma hoped to use his new Spanish "friends" to help maintain a political advantage in court.
The riots also had the backing of the Aztec aristocracy. While Moctezuma was a hostage, they selected that his cousin Cuitlahuac be appointed the new emperor, which is why they didn't really stop to mourn Moctezuma.
I really dislike the Noche Triste mission ,as you have a fixed force, without blacksmith upgrades, fighting against a timer and a heavily entrenched enemy.
The terrain and units at the Otumba mission is completely ahistorical. It was fought in fields, the Aztecs lost (however, this IS an Aztec campaign so historical what ifs are possible), and the Aztecs never even attempted to use Spanish horses or gunpowder as they were completely alien to them.
I completely disagree with the analysis that the Spanish conquest was inevitable--it really was down to Moctezuma playing it safe, and Cortes playing it risky.
The Aztecs actually taunted the Spanish as the Spanish destroyed their buildings-saying something like if the Aztecs won, the Spanish would rebuilt the city for them, and if the Aztecs lost, they'd have to rebuild the city anyway. Trivia: The Aztecs would put sharp stakes in the water to fight the larger Spanish ships, and would seeming leave causways undefended as bait for the Spanish. In one of the bridge battles, they caught Cortes off his horse. However, before he could be dragged off for public execution (something the sacrifices also functioned as), another Spanish soldier sacrificed his life fighting the Aztec warriors so that Cortes could escape.
And much after all that, we appear, (modern Mexicans) everything, so that the president of modern Rome makes fun of us and wants to surround us with a wall :v
Please, I need the source of this
"In one of the bridge battles, they caught Cortes off his horse. However, before he could be dragged off for public execution (something the sacrifices also functioned as), another Spanish soldier sacrificed his life fighting the Aztec warriors so that Cortes could escape."
"The Aztecs actually taunted the Spanish as the Spanish destroyed their buildings-saying something like if the Aztecs won, the Spanish would rebuilt the city for them" This sounds really interesting. Would you mind providing the source for this statement? :)
I know this is really late, but as a note on the La Noche Triste mission: you’re supposed to use your monks to convert villagers and build up a base. The scenario isn’t designed to be won with only a fixed force.
They should've cut Cortéz's head off right away although I don't think it would've really changed anything .
Do the Saladin campaign next.
Saladin is such an amazing campaign, my fave of all time!
but the last scenario in saladin is so frickin' difficult!!!!! i usually play the scenarios on hard difficulty but i find it difficult to complete the last one even on moderate difficulty. there's just too many enemies and the wonder just doesn't stand...
it's kinda cheaty but there is a small island to the bottom left of the map, build your wonder there and let the time run out ;)
this and teutonic one
I can assure you it's doable. I bought AoE on steam summer sale and finished almost all campaigns - I am hesitant to play one but last, because it seems so empty with stripped out dubbings :( Too bad after campaigns there's nothing to do in this game - multiplayer is just virtually impossible to play, because of the giant delays.
please do more of this for other campaigns 😃😃
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Nice video Spirit. This series will be interesting. I hope you continue it.
I could listen to you talking about Aoe II stuff all day. No Homo
hadowkillerx777
stop being homophobic
But wait, what happened to the three Turtle Ships in the last level??
The whole last level was unhistorical.
the korean army wich was on texas fighting the mayans decided to help the aztecs
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Ah, that makes sense. Thanks for the info.
NO, it was the Zheng He who brought some turtle ships from Korea to Aztecs for gifts
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zheng_He
#joking
+JoeyFantasia you're probably right on this. The turtle ships are probably an Easter egg referring to the famous admiral Zheng He. Some say he made it all the way to the Americas from Asian. He was however chinese, not Korean :p
great video, and the podcasts contained a lot of fascinating information. Thank you!
This is actually the last time a trebuchet was used in warfare. To ease the demands on their gunpowder supplies they attempted to build a trebuchet, but none of them were actually familiar with the technology, so it broke on the first shot.
The quality of this video is undeniably way above the average youtube video. Keep it up Spirit, and pleaaaseee make this a series i'd watch every single one of them.
Hey that's pretty good
triggered
Exactly what I was gonna say lmao
how did you end up here lol
pyrocynical
Honestly, I'll support anything that let's me hear more of your engaging and informative voice. Keep up the good work!
Loved those twisted endings in campaign stories, like with Barbarossa story, when it turns out that narator is Henry the Lion, or in Attila the Hun, when it turns out that father Armand is former Hun solider. :)
Dude been following you for a year or so now... Best video ever! Really enjoyed it! Do more!
Joan de arc would be an interesting one to cover imo
Agree
be a bit quick tbh, Joan never did any fighting, gave one speech, followed around the french army for a while cockteasing them into fighting better, then got captured by the English and burnt to death.
Joan was an impessive chick. She was 16 when she, a girl, that could only write her own name and was a daughter of peasants, stood in front of the king and made him consider her as the right choice. She stood up for herself and dude, she was so confident I admire her. She indeed did not fight in the front; yet she was captured by Johann II, he sold her to the Brgund, and they sold her to John of Lancester, who then sold her to Rouen where she was convicted of being a murderer and a witch. c:
+T Neale not by englishmen but by the Bourguignons in French ( burgundis in english ? )
She's called Joan in English ? That's kinda different of her French name XD
In France we call her Janne
Hey man! I am from Mexico and this was a really enjoyable video! Thanks so much and I look forward for more videos like this in the future!
nice video man! Really like the new concept! :D
This is certainly one of your better videos on this channel and I'd love to see you make a series out of it. Personally I'm fascinated with the AoE campaigns, not because of their difficulty or lack thereof(well obviously) but because of the history behind it. Whether it's historical facts, alternative historical scenarios or a mixture, as the campaigns tend to go in all those directions. I also personally love to learn about history through games like AoE, the various Total War games, Paradox titles, etc, and due to the various inaccuracies in all said games I appreciate this series even more. As it splits the historical truths from the non truths which were added for game play or other reasons.
Honestly I'd like a campaign with your commentary. Basically a commentated playthrough。
I've subscribed to you when you only have about 200 subs... and know you grow alot.... but this is the thing that I love about you.. which is... your channel is just really constant and your commentaries is just the same....always really logic
What an excellent comparison, maybe I am mexican, but doesn't make an expert on the subject, but you reiterated which imo was the most important reason of the aztec fallout, which is the political situation arround the "conquista", the "mexicas" (how aztecs called themselves), were trying to unify the revolting cities arround the capital, tecnically the rest of what is now the south of mexican territory. Nowadays a lot of students (mainly elementary/ middle school) think that we could have won the conquista, just by cheer number and territory advantage, but tenochtitlan had none, plus we had still powerfull enemies at the north and south of the country; another thing is that the tecnoligical and tactical advantage was way stronger for the spanish and at the end they had the upper hand. Nowadays even if it was a tragic aspect of the fundation of my country, I found it to be the one that makes my contry unique, the music, food and trditions that we are proud of are made from themixing between mesoamerican and spanish cultures. Also something that I find cool is that you can also visit the first town and house that Cortez fond in New spain, Is called La antigua and is few hours from my hometowns :P. Thanks a lot for this hope I can do my own research before yo get to make the new episode.
don't forget that disease and different approaches to warfare also played large parts in the fall of tenochtitlan
+Angel Canseco it was mainly deceases that defeated not just the Aztecs but the native population on the continent.
Angel Canseco
Indeed I do that part is really important, but for me are the factors that weren't brought by the spanish the ones that are really interesting, these coincidenses that made an easier battle against native americans.
"Nowadays a lot of students (mainly elementary/ middle school) think that WE could have won the conquista..."
Are you Aztec or Mexica?
I always thought that Mexicans saw themselves more as Spanish than Aztec but I guess Mexico isn't actually a Spanish name so that makes sense.
This is one vote for more of this kind of video. I really enjoyed it.
AoE II told me more about history than school. Sad but true :D
Congrats on hitting 50k subscribers! You deserve it man. Your videos are informative and entertaining, with top-notch production values and a great sense of humour. Also, maybe this is just me, but I love your voice. It's so relaxing and cute and uhhh... Canadian.
Good work man and keep it up!
This was really interesting... Is this a one time deal, or will you continue this as a series?
A series would be cool. I'd definitely want to the do the main campaigns for the Conquerors and probably Age of Kings. Not sure yet about the stand-alone Conqueror scenarios, like Hastings. This was probably the most fun I've had making a video for the channel, so I'm definitely inclined to do more.
This was a great video, so I hope you're going to make more.
Age of Empires is what got me into history when I was a kid, and I have fond memories of many of these campaigns. Hearing some background information behind them, packaged so neatly, would be great.
Please do El Cid next! It is my favorite campaign of them all.
Great vid. Looking forward to more of this. Playing the AoE campaigns as a kid was one of the things that triggered my interest in history. Keep up the good work.
Great video, keep it up! One little remark: "x" is pronounced like "sh" in Nahuatl, the aztec language. So Tlaxcala is pronounced like "Tlashcala".
I was wondering the same when I played in HD . X was supposed to be /∫/ and not /ks/ and there is no way they could ve not known that .
The old one had the fakest accent .
This was an awesome video. I always loved the campaigns for teaching me history as a kid. Thanks for shedding even more light on these cool events.
Hey, Spirit, I happen to be a very obsessed Roman history buff, and I would be more than happy to help out with an "Attila the Hun" Campaigns VS History episode.
Alternatively, if you prefer to work alone but wish to do an episode on Attila, I would highly recommend "Aetius: Attila's Nemesis" by Ian Hughes as it is a fantastic book chalked full of information on the man, the myth, and the legend. The background info is summarized, but the main characters of this turbulent time are described in amazing detail, along with confident reconstructions of events.
I find the documentaries on youtube to be rather lacking and of an average quality for historical accuracy and information, but they're good starters none the less.
In addition, if you'd like to learn some background information on the decline of the Roman empire that led up to the time in which Attila would rise, there's "Imperial Brothers" and "Stilicho: The Vandal Who Saved Rome" both by Ian Hughes, "Failure of Empire" by Noel Lenski, and "The Roman Army" by Patricia Southern.
I actually really appreciate this video, as kid it always confused as to why they did what they did with the gun powder/horse stuff and also why they changed the ending. Even as kid I was a skeptic especially after my grandpa bought me a book about Spanish and Aztec relations because he could tell it was something me and my dad were interested in. So thanks for this cleared up some gaps for me.
1000 Spanish 180000 tlaxcalans vs 200000 Aztecs. Cortez helped conquer the Aztecs but would have done nothing without the tlaxcalans.
And we as good Mexicans deny the existence of Tlaxcala after too many years and we call us "Aztecs" or "Mexicas" in many things xD
It's funny when a regiomontano or a yucateco calls himself "azteca", or like my crush (already denied), who is proud of her Spanish inheritance (her grand-grandfather was Spanish) and talks about "our culture" referring to Aztec mythology...
@@MrlspPrt it grinds My gears too
@@MrlspPrt let them have it. Aztec, and native culture is Mexican legacy now. But yeah, another thing is blood. And I know I have some Tlaxcaltec and Chichimeca bits to be proud of!
All in all, our country is awesome!
Plus a great helping hand from the European MVP when it comes to American colonization, Smallpox, Mumps, and Measles.
can't get enough of this guy's videos
One thing that's ahistorical is all the trebuchets. They were never developed in the Americas and no longer in use by Europeans. The Spanish built just one after running low on or out of gunpowder, but none of them knew how to adjust the sling length properly and it fired only once directly upwards. This was the last recorded "use" of a trebuchet in warfare.
Actually, most of the Aztec unit mix is ahistorical. Crossbows, swords, torsion engines, and blacksmiths were all Eurasian developments that were neither spread to nor independently developed in the Americas. Realistic Aztecs would be utterly unplayable. I think they were a bad choice of civilization to include in the game, as were the Mayans for the same reason.
Do you know the game American Conquest? How accurate is that depiction? I liked how they made armies with bigger numbers and lighter troops a choice to consider back when pathing lots of units through any terrain wasn't trivial on the machine yet. Made Native American factions nearly on par with European ones even though I found they were still easier to play against the AI.
Also, _holy epic backstory_ in the campaigns!
Nathan Brown That was for the sake of balance. Some historical accuracy had to be sacrificed.
Even with that, there are some AoE2 licences I can't forgive like:
-The Chinese not having most gunpowder units, not even Siege Cannons.
-The Spaniards not having Crossbowmen, while Aztecs and Mayans have them. (At least make those Archers stronger to make up for the lack of crossbows).
-American civs having wheels on their Trade Carts.
-Malians having gunpowder units, while Ethiopians don't.
-Goths not having Stone Walls. And having Huskarls when those should be Viking or Anglo-Saxon (I believe Goths should be renamed Gothic or Germanic and are meant to represent all pre-Carolingian Germanic tribes rather than Visigoths and Ostrogoths).
@@AlexeiArwinson too Many people think that aztecs where the first civ with the wheel so i think youre a little wrong on that one
@@AlexeiArwinson I don't know about the Inca but the Aztecs did know wheels and used them in toys but never in practice as the terrain made it comparably easier to carry things around then be thru wheel .
really hope this will be a new series in the future. I've been somewhat of an Aztec history nerd from a very young age, and Aoe was definitely a factor in that.
keep it up man, your age of empires content is second to none on TH-cam!
You are pretty acurate in this video. Congratulations from a History student from Mexico
"Spirit of the History" has done it again. Well done, sir.
Lol learned a a bit more about this historic event!
Bravo!
I have too few knowledge on the subject to judge what you said but i congratulate you anyway for the initiative.
You are probably the best commentator on AOE2 game on youtube and you have raised a big step in seriousness here (and besides mathematic, was a great thing to do too, for education by fun, bravo for that too and make it attractive for young players).
Education, even in a game, is not a thing lightly to take for me.
As an historian of art, you have my encouragements (and all campaigns of AOE2 are interesting for me in the historical aspect, so I wish you a good work!).
Another Mistake is that they say that the Aztecs lived in a jungle, but that's wrong. The Mexico's center was originaly a forest, so it's wrong put the jaguars in the scenarios of the aztecs too. The part of México that has the jungle is the South (There were the Mayans).
In our story books it's said that, actually, the aztecs thought that the spanish people were gods because of the horses and the full metal armour.
I want to add some things:
1.-Tabasco was so far away from Tenochtitlán, Tabasco is in the coast of the Golfo de México, i don't know why they put them together in a scenario :0
2.- I don't know if is real but one of my teacher told us that la matanza de Cholula was provocated because Cortes realized that some people wanted to kill him and then he killed the poeple from Cholula like a signal of supremacy, that place was like a commercial place, so they didn't have so much weapons.
3.-The cities constructed over the lake are sinking, actually Mexico City sinkes 10 cm every single year o:
4.-The reason why the empire fall so fast is because Cortés used his frigates for cut the entrace of food, it take a month aproximatly, in that time Cortés was eating comfortably with the tlaxcaltecs
5.-The aztecs were very clean people, they even had a sewer system, the majority of the buildings in Tenochtitlan was painted white, and I found a video of how the city could looks
th-cam.com/video/0BNEZMIfLLU/w-d-xo.html
6.-I thought the same when I played the last level, i was like wtf?, but it was pretty funny 👌
PD: I had visited that tree, it's pretty cool (I live so close).
PD 2: I don't know why I see this kind of videos if i don't play the game anymore. Plus, I don't know why I'm seeing this if find it hard to understand English; man I love your channel even though I can't understand the whole videos.
Jaguars are capable of living in a wide variety of biomes, not only tropical rainforests. They can currently be found even in southern US. The historical range of the jaguar extended very close to the valley of Mexico, not to mention that they were many times more numerous 500 years ago, so it's extremely likely that the Aztecs encountered wild jaguars pretty often.
On March 12, 1519, Hernán Cortés arrived to the city that Tabscoob ruled, Potonchán, in Tabasco, which was the first place in Mexico that was turned into a Spanish settlement (renamed Santa María de la Victoria); this was due to the native Chontal Mayans being defeated in the Battle of Centla, which was the first big battle between the Spanish and Mexican natives (if I'm not mistaken). Tabscoob maintained commercial ties with the Mexica, despite how unlikely such link might seem due to the geographical distance between these two peoples. So that's why Tabasco was included in this campaign.
Also, turn on automatic captions; it's not perfectly accurate but it helps a lot if your oral comprehension is not enough to understand videos like these (where the narrator talks faster and more naturally) yet.
I can't help but say, regardless of how many videos I watch, this intro does not get old. One of the only intros I never skip.
do you write out a script and we are listening to you read, or are you just really good at lecturing?
I like to make bullet point notes for myself ahead of time so things come in a logical order and I have all the numbers/names on hand. I wrote out full scripts for a few of my early videos but I think I sounded weird reading them so I stopped doing that. That being said, there's also a lot of editing I do to remove pauses and redo lines, so it's not exactly like I'm hitting Record and doing some one-take magic. I think the raw audio file in this video, for example, was 30ish minutes before I edited it down.
Good point. Perhaps one day I'll have the confidence to upload the 10+ hour compilation of awkward or incomplete sentences I've cut from my videos over the years
Frankly Spirit could read anything and I'd be happy to listen, even tax law
+Spirit Of The Law Outtakes are always fun:)
More like prime minister
Great video SotL! And as many other say, it is really well researched. I'm glad to see that you continued with this series with other campaings. I don't know the others, but the reason I loved all the AoE games series is because they're historic games. And I guess that's the reason why they remain so popular in many parts of the world.
its name was Moctezuma not Montezuma why did they put it like that??
Americanised for easier pronunciation no doubt
I think you mean englishized because The US hadn't even been founded by this point
Isn't it the same thing?
"Anglicised" :)
In mexican spanish is Moctezuma, however you need to refer to a nahuatl speaker to get a proper writing of the name.
Please do more of these. They are incredible.
You forgot to mention that in one of the missions, you find 3 turtle ships in the lake and can then control them. Completely non historic :P
Varun Mathur It's actually based on the rumours that Zheng He (a chinese explorer like columbus) had discovered the americas.
JARIS ALMAZANI Ah. OK. I didn't think of that.
@@varun634 actualy the vikings find aztecs first in one script they mention vikings
in DE they changed to Elite Cannon Galleons(makes the level extremely easy btw) and stated it was abandoned by the Spanish during retreat
@@jarisalmazani5016 I don't think the timing of that works out, though, because from what I can find, that claim only became widespread in the years following the release of "The Conquerers."
I'm so happy someone is still doing some age of empires videos .
how about el Cid next
Yes, please do this comparison for all the campaigns! This is great.
This video should be titled: AoE2 Campaign history sins: Montezuma
historical inaccuracy in last scenario *ting*
I understood that reference.
in 21 minutes or less
spoilers
(duh)
Narration DING
↑ This goes on for some time.
*DING*
Dude I love this series already! You always put a lot of effort in your videos, I love them, my vote is on El Cid campaign next
Say what you will about Cortez but at least he was a self made man. Self made men in history (Cortez, hitler, Stalin, ghenghis khan, mousilini, Justinian, probably some others I can’t think of) always have the most interesting and impressive stories
Awesome video, Dood. I really enjoyed. I'm from Mexico and in my opinion you did a great job and the pronunciation was good too. :)
Looking forward to see your Aztec overview. :D
MOCTEZUMA!
I loved it Spirit, the angles you took in making this video were fantastic. Great job mate
This reminds me that one of the saddest things to happen to mankind is the complete destruction of Tenochtitlan. It would be so good if that city was still preserved... If I was Cortez I would immediately order the natives to repair it according to how it was supposed to be, but I guess that if I was him I would be too much of an asshole to do so.
don't forget the lakes, during the siege of tenochtitlan the levees were destroyed. After the conquest they were never rebuilt and mexico city was constantly flooding so they decided to drain the lakes. look up lake texcoco before and after conquest. There were like 5 interconnected lakes, xochimilco, chalco, texcoco, I cantvrenember that last one
ACtually, most of the city drawing still exists. If you look at the european cities at the time, the were pretty messy. Downtown in Mexico City still keeps most of the actual streets that existed at the time (not as streets, but water canals before the spanish conquest). In a way, still exists.
+Orch MusicMIX I remember reading an article for a presentation on chinampas. The study was to find the actual size of techtitkan at the time of conquest (not just the island but the increase in land from the creation of chinampas which were artificial islands made up of reeds and mud and trees) using the streets that were recorded in colonial times as a reference point
Do you know where i could find this article??
+Ro Calvo think the link should work, if it doesn't its called settlement pattern and chinamoa agriculture of tenochtitlan (sorry if the names wrong) www.jstor.org/stable/278892
You nailed it by any means with this video, do the series, I think we all would want that.
I remembered getting taught in high school history of how europeans were seen as gods among the Aztecs, and how superior europeans were when it came to the conflict. It was really frustrating because I'm aboriginal and I disputed the teachers claims and he ended up failing me. I later heard after I graduated that a student beat the breaks off him and I later saw that student at a party and he told me all about it. For some reason I felt validated. That teacher was an ignorant piece of shit.
History is often complicated and made even messier by many competing political maneuvers. But when someone tries to summarize a major historical event in one phrase or two, they're bound to get it wrong no matter what they say.
I love history. However I despise false history.
MOS Aztecs and us Spaniards were both militaristic nations. The best one won. We were ruthless, we wete brutal and we dont give a fuck, grow some balls.
The best won? You mean diseases, plagues, and alliances? Current spaniards are left in ruins. From your perspective one could spin history however they want.
Why do you identify with the folks who conquered the Aztec confederation? Didn't you know that Spain, so as Mexico, did not exist at that time? The war was between Aztecs and Castilians, or if you want, between Mesoamericans and Westerners, never between Aztecs and Spaniards.
please continue this series,this is awesome work
keep up the great work
>list wikipedia as source. You know anyone with a computer can edit a wiki page right?
yes and no. Anyone can edit it, but when mistakes are found they revert it to a previous version and can block the ip address of the user that did the tampering to stop them from doing it any more. Wikipedia is good for general history and facts like the things covered in this video, and even provides links to sources that tend to be quite good.
It's also important to say that the english wikipedia has a gazillion people overwatching articles. And good articles (such as Tenochtitltan and Cortés) have more references than a Masters Thesis :P
Wikipedia is one of the most reliable historical sources out there, and is getting better by the day. The moderation works wonders.
In 2016, you need like 12938213819 different resources to change a single sentence and have it stay there for more than 3 seconds.
To be honest the only major sin I find in Wikipedia is more often a lack of detail in some areas. You can get a good general idea of a subject by reading its subject page, but you're not going to become a masters-level expert on the topic just by reading it. But it is generally very accurate for the reasons stated before.
This also said by someone whose began 'reading' more during his work hours because of audio-books.
If you want to learn about a person as a character than a list of facts than seriously read a book.
This as a series would be so awesome .!
Man... I just can say: awesome content, congratulations for the video (:
I've became an Age of Empires fan because of my History classes back when I was a kid. I just can't count how many times I searched on Google some historical facts that I once saw in the game. This video just came in a rainy weekend to remember those days when I lost myself reading about Atila, Joan d'Arc, etc. Please, keep doing it!
The story telling in this campaign is something I will never forget
Yes!!! Goosebumps narration in the original, not the reworked one in definitive edition.
This is a great video and a really nice idea to do this AOE2 vs History thing. Would definitely love more of these!
Please continue this series! Whatever campaing you do next I'll watch it!
Micael Gerosa Because in multiplayer you beat players with different skills, while in the campaign, you only beat AIs that in fact is easy to exploit if you can.
I enjoyed watching your depiction of the campaign and its comparison with actual history, as I have myself played this campaign with great interest and excitement. In AOE2 this was my most favourite campaign.
It's a great story.
this is great, just finished reading bernal Diaz account of the conquest and what you've said is so accurate
This is such a great concept for a new series. I hope you get to do more like this one!
Fantastic work, one of your best ideas for a series!
This may be my favourite video from you yet, and I think you sell yourself short on your historical rigour (or whatever you'd call it).
A series like this that could eventually cover all campaigns (and maybe even battles of the conquerors?) would be absolutely fantastic if they're all as well researched as this one.
Just saying this is easily one of my favorite things on TH-cam right now
I actually found this video very intriguing and this campaign was my favorite one to play through first time. The Aztecs are one of my favorites to play and hopefully this means their civ overview comes out soon.
I sure did like this. I'm a big history fan and the history campaigns are the reason I started playing this game way back in the day. It does sound like a good series to continue. I hope to see more.
Love this video, I always thought the end of the campaign was done for the exact reason you gave. I'd love to see more
Keep adding these kinds of videos I really enjoyed it.
This was a great idea for a video, and I'd welcome seeing more campaign vs history style videos. :D
By far the best series, keep it up!
Totally love this new type of video! Keep up the good work Spirit! Excellent job as always!
great video, I really enjoyed it, I hope you make more of these campaigns vs history videos
This is a very interesting format; I'd love to see a few more videos regarding the parallels and deviations between historical events or legends and AoE2 campaigns.
As a bit of a historian and statistician I love the way you're going with this. It would be awesome to see more of Spirit's Campaigns vs. History! It would be nice to do something on Gengis Khan and treat some of the misconceptions around that figure.
Such a well made series! Hope to see more!
This is a great idea. I would love it if you did these videos for all the campaigns.
You're good kid. But drago wants this as a series. Better not disappoint.
Keep this as a series for other AOE campaigns as well!
this series is VERY worth watching! Plz do more!
I think this is a brilliant idea for a series, if you plan to do more I would love to see the Huns next
A small trivia side note, Spirit.
If I recall correctly, at the beginning of the siege in 1517, Cortes was unable to use his cannons due to the humidity, and hence built a trebuchet (which may or may not had been effective).
Thought it might catch your eye.
Keep pumping this great work of yours! Cheers mate.
Hey man I appreciate your dedication for this beautiful game. Bless you and keep doing this kind of stuff.
I would really enjoy it if you did more of these!
I really liked this style of video! I hope you do more like this in the future.
Great episode dude, hope you make it a series!
Keep it up!
More please! I would love more of this series!
This is a great idea for a video series. I would love to know more about the historical aspect of AOE 2. And your narration makes it that much more interesting. (Y)
Making this series, is a great idea. Thanks!