"We want new players" says Riot hopeful, awaiting all of the new players that Arcane will bring... while taking every hostile choice against them that we could think of...
easy and accessable champion pool? simple and fair monetization? a good and balanced reward system? Hm... no, no, ... that is not what they want. In fact, remove all of it! Instead, let's give them the option to gamble a minimum of 200 bucks for a lower quality ultimate skin that used to cost 30 and advertise it at every chance we get. That surely will win new players over since there are no games that do it better!
It's kinda funny that when they mentioned that champ purchases don't really make them any money, I thought they would just make all champs free in the new season, I was literally completely wrong because they went the exact opposite direction.
Yeah it's funny how they said it's not a big source of income then proceed to take the greediest route possible by trying to make it a bigger source of income instead of eliminating it as an income stream.
@@justhair17They are delusional if they think players are going to spend real money to buy champs in league , what new players are going to do is close the game, uninstall and go play marvel rivals
They started the season by removing the possibility to get chests, lowered the amount of champions you can get, another 250$ gatcha skin that is low quality and the list goes on actually. But hey .....the cinematic and the theme were good ! Thank you Necrit, now i know where my priorities should be !
After this, they're gonna sell what could have been a legendary skin for Mordekaiser in the gacha machine, so i guess there's still some polish you can remove from the exalted skins!
4:08 apparently Riot found that the chest system was an "annoying system", finding a chest then getting a chest inside that chest was annoying, but for me it wasn't. It was actually pretty fun and quiet surprising to see a chain of chests and getting the most bang for your buck (ironically free back then).
Yeah, annoying for them that you got 4 chests instead of 1. And they said, hey we losing money this way. Its all turning into "give me your money player"
do people really say that getting a chest inside a chest is bad??? bro that's litterally one of the best rewards, it's like you get a 2nd chance at opening, how is that bad
Okay, lets be honest... as a F2P player you want some free skins, probably you don't want to collect every skin, but you still would enjoy the possiblity of getting a good nice skin from time to time... removing chests from the mastery system is a huge mistake, and they will lose a lot of f2p players (which I guess they don't care about anyways)
The thing that pisses me off is that they didn't only remove the chests, they removed the free orbs also. Not to mention the gacha system they are pushing and the lay offs that happened last year. So much greedy choices one after the other
Also , as I see it, the mastery system was important because it encourage players to use different champions, that way giving variety to players and reducing boredom, also giving them money long term because that way people got new mains that will give them some money in skins, now why I would play any other champ that my main?, specially considering how hard is to get champs now
If you're gonna stop playing because you can't get a free skin you were gonna leave the game eventually anyway. The skin might hold you for another month but f2p players aren't paying any bills why would we focus on retention if they're not generating dollars? If they are they need to work on retention. How much money do f2p players bring in?
@@qlasalle fair point I rather think the problem is the visual. Why atognize the players if the mastery chest that the f2p player get do not make difference? We all know we hate losing something. That is common knowlegde.
I don't understand how people don't get this. It's not about "well I have to grind to get stuff", its "we like having progression goals but aren't going for pro/high level play". There needs to be something to work towards. For some people that can be skill improvement, but for others its getting unlocks and external rewards. People need motivators and its fucking gross that people are trying to shame others for liking unlocks. Not to mention in early league there was always something to work on unlocking because you had to: buy champs, buy runes, level up for masteries, level up for summoner spells. The constant updates and new champs meant you always had something to work towards. I started in S2, I have played this game for a decade, when they finally added free chests they revitalized the game for a lot of players. It both gave people with no money an option, but it also just made it so you could have other goals. Mastery chests were basically perfect rewarding players for diversifying over one-tricking. If they want to simplify it just give us the skin shards, every champ you get an S+ with in a year gets you 1 skin shard. If you play enough and enough champs you will unlock stuff you like. One skin every miniseason is not anywhere near on par with the dozens of free skin a half competent player could get before. You can't just take that away and tell people they're stupid for hating so much content being removed.
There's nothing wrong with liking unlocks and seeing that as a carrot to strive for, the problem is that a TON of the people who spout the "I need RNG unlocks or I literally die REEEEEEEE" crap are explicitly saying that they HATE playing the game and literally ONLY play it for free rewards. That's absolute psycho behaviour. Well-adjusted players play a game they like and any rewards are a bonus. I don't give a shit about Fortnite, so I would never, ever play the game no matter how many rewards you get because I don't like the game.
For real, almost every decision gives me the feeling talks of increasing revenue was the biggest topic as champs dont make money so gouge out the acquisition so players are more likely to buy the starter packs and champs. Skins are making less as people already have ways to get them for free so remove the free option so they have to pay. Players arent buying ultimate's but rather just get them for 'free' with chests so lets take out the option to buy them directly and lock them behind even more expensive chests.
@@leetri ok but like... let's not forget what game we're talking about here, and what community we're talking about here. League is a miserable fucking game, half the people who play are genuinely fucking addicted in an unhealthy way with it. Losing a game of league 9/10 times is miserable, it's just that the wins sometimes make up for it. In a game where at least like 40% of the games are miserable and 40% are just ok, the rewards keep you going. It's also just... a fucking weird ass decision? I mean, removing the chests from S games, I disagree with but fine. But level up rewards... first of all, what the fuck is the point of leveling up anymore? To show off to everyone how little of a life you have? I mean riot doesn't seriously expect people, especially new people, to pay real money to buy all the champs right? it's bad enough that we have to grind for them and can't even try them out before buying them (unless you're lucky enough for them to pop up in the champion rotation). I've been playing since beta, I remember when I was level 30 for like 4 or 5 years, I remember grinding the shit out of IP to get some champs and I did on occasion pay for some with real money but c'mon.
@@cccfudge I dont play SR or ranked but I play everything else. The last time i met a rude person on leagues stuff was 6 months ago, the last time someone went full rage mode was over 1.5 years ago. I play to have fun and people take even regular SR too seriously. If i want to play a "normal" game I play co op vs AI. No stress, just fun. I've been playing this game since 2010.
@@revendax2584 the league community toxic ty is way overblown. overwatch and marvel rivals are far worse right now. poeple repeat a meme on the LOL community they dont actually understand,
As someone who owns over 500 skins with 80% of those just coming from rerolls this new system sucks. We don’t have any agency in the skins you want. You just get a permanent skin from the battlepass for a champ you probably don’t play or want. We would much rather have shards so you can reroll/disenchant what you don’t like.
TY! yes, i complained about this with the 3 honors skins, like i didn't have akshan cos i did not want him, and riot just dumped him on my inventory, i wanted the skin to re-roll or disenchant... The response riot gave me was: we can remove it, but u wont obtain any currency. Getting to honor 5 gets u a punishment.
The biggest issue nobody seems to even mention is that it's literally impossible for a F2P to get a skin above Epic rarity. The 1 Skin Shard you get is for EPIC OR BELOW. With chests removed and random rewards removed you literally can't get shit anymore
Did anyone notice how the FREE skin shard in the battlepass is called a "MYSTERY EPIC OR LOWER SKIN" shard. Meaning free players can no longer get a Legendary or Ultimate skin for free, they will just have to settle for a surfer singed or a shamrock malphite each season and fork up the big bucks to get any reward that seems even remotely good.
I mean there's plenty of great epic skins to pick up, but yeah kind of a shame they gated off legendaries. That sucks. Frankly, I'm surprised they let free ultimates slide for as long as they did.
@@VicenteprzI don't understand the thinking oh it's way better than before like yeah but we aren't going into the past we are going into the future. They regressed back like why? I know they want to make more money but why defend that.
>make the most aggressive and hostile decisions against new players >wonder why there's no new players Stupidity and disconnection from reality really do seem to be necessary skills to occupy high positions in big companies.
@@Bickiiification godzilagiroflex is right though. What are you on about? This is the worst changes I had ever seen a company make- it is extremely anti-consumer.
@@Bickiiification If you think hostility is a word reserved for physical violence then let me phrase what a famous philosopher once said "And you talk about disconnection from reality"
How dare you complain about riot taking away chests that you could get ultimate skins to get a champion capsule (when anyone who has played for more than 2 years has all the champions) and a horrible skin that is part of the lore, I guess.
What you seem to forget Necrit is that you'd have to play the game for 7 years and complete EVERY SINGLE PASS all the time. This also doesn't take into consideration the new champions that will come out during that time period. So its a lot closer to 8-9 years, and 10+ if we're being realistic since the average person would NOT in fact complete every goddamn battlepass.
15:55 "pros laugh because nothing changed" this just proved that necrit doesnt really keep up or knows much about the pro scene. Every competitive league streamer i watch complains about feats of strength, even coaches agree. Which is saddening knowing that lots of his viewers are casuals as well.
He isn’t saying that feats change nothing, he’s saying that feats dont really change the way pros play for objectives, because pros were already playing for objectives, it just makes whoever gets those objectives get a stupid advantage.
The way he said it was wrong, adding on what spacecadet said which is completely correct, I'd say it's more high Elo players that say this. Also alot of Pro players from what I've seen complain and whine just as much low to mid elo players, especially alot of streamers who rely on reactions for content. But it's not false information or being out touch for stating that it has always been this way, it has, and if you don't see this/understand this then climbing in solo queue is going to be a struggle lol. There is a reason people are constantly saying you have play around objectives to win games and climb and that people say the 'jungle role is broken', it all comes down to getting these objectives that now are under the feats of strength mechanic. It certainly didn't come out of nowhere!
This has finally done it for me, its so obvious that Necrit is not allowed to talk bad about Riot. Look at Nikkiboy or TVSkyen reactions and youll see someone who is really talking about the severity and greedyness of Riot. Youve dissapointed me Necrit, but i guess you and riot are really a match made in heaven, the monkey dances for the money.
God, literally not a single bad thing about Riot without saying "but wait, its not as bad" or a "they are working into it". Its so clear you are their damage control guy that its not even funny
I absolutely hate the change they made with mastery chests. The system last season was okay, in my opinion. You were able to get ~10-15 Chests by playing a normal amount of games. Now, you already know that no matter how well you play, or what champ you play, you will get this exact skin in about two weeks or something. There is no need to play good anymore to get an S. There is no need to switch champs anymore. And then, in the end, you don't even get the fun of opening a chest. This is literally what kept me playing. I just want to see what skin I get, even if most skins you get are bad its still fun. And there is always that tiny chance of getting an ultimate skin (I got 3 of them this way btw.) Now, you already know what skin you will get after hours of gameplay. It just doesnt feel good. Also, after you unlocked that skin, you cannot get anything of value free 2 play. I know he made that point of how you should play the game for fun, not rewards. But for me, the fun was always getting rewards if I performed well. That just felt good. Now it's just like "Oh, I went 0/10, anyways heres the daily mission XP and some other random quest I completed, bringing me to level 13 of the battle pass which gives me absolutely nothing. Wow."
The rewards were a fun ADDITION. Necrit is missing that. They took away an element that helped F2P players, an element that also maintained player retention since they could get skins they might like for completely free as long as they continued playing. I cannot accept anyone defending the decision to remove F2P rewards ENTIRELY.
Literally, I get the whole thing about playing it for fun. But realistically, that's not how League of Legends works. Many of its own community tell new players not to play the game. People don't just play league because it's fun, (some may) but most do not. They do it because they get something out of it, whether it is chest, rank mastery, champions etc. And completely removing that from the game makes people not want to play, because they aren't getting anything out of playing it anymore. Even the smallest reward keeps people playing. One thing I think is so stupid is taking away the ability to get free chest. And now you can only get it by spending money. Why would I spend money on a chest when I can just buy the item I want. Chest are literally designed for the free players, and it's doesn't make sense to remove them.
When they changed the ranked system to where everybody gets the skin, they lost all incentive for people to play good and take it seriously. I stopped playing ranked because i noticed more people troll than they do in draft pick
I feel like this is the same change they did in overwatch, where they sell you the idea of you are gona get skins you want for free but in the end you get the most mediocre skins possible while all the cool skins you could pull in the past are now insanely expensive
nah but the thing is even if the free overwatch skins you get arent the best some are actually really nice and cool unlike whatever riot will make and im not defending overwatch but when our free skin is a horrible elise 530 skin from back in the day and overwatch gets a full on slime skin for echo *my personal favorite free epic theyve thrown out that ive seen* its funny how bad riot is when they try using systems from other games cause its always somehow x2 or more worse
Yeah I‘ve given up on taking him seriously. Every argument Riot has had about needing more money can just be countered by pointing at nintendo‘s old CEO who‘d rather take a huge paycut, than lay off some people.
People, including Necrit, are missing the point of why someone might play to get 'pretty pixels'. Of course those people play for fun, but part of that fun is unlocking things. I like league, I really enjoy the games themselves, especially when playing with friends, but part of enjoying the game is getting that 'A' or 'S+', getting the milestone achivment thingies, getting another key fragment when I log in, getting a new chest and getting to open it, rerolling skins because I will *totally* get something good this time. It's a big part of why I play the game, that dopamine rush of unlocking new things, and I am speaking as someone who DOES pay. I buy the passes, orbs, every skin for my favourite champion, even if they are horrible, because I like the idea of having 'everything' for my favourite character. The point isn't 'boo hoo I can't get free stuff anymore so the game isn't fun'. Playing the game is fun, winning or even loosing gives me that 'one more' need, but after that there is *nothing*. It's playing for the sake of playing, and thats cool! But there is only so much fun that can give. A big part of it is just gone, there is no further motivation behind it. Don't even get me started on the champion capsules, or how "better" the new pass is. The decisions were both garbage, and getting new skins for champions you probably don't even have won't make me want wo play those champions. You know what did motivate me to try new champs? Rolling an epic or a legendary skin, thinking, damn thats a really cool skin, and either enchanting a champion shard or waiting for the champion to show up in the free rotation so I can try them out. The skins on the passes might have pretty splash arts but they aren't looking half as good in game. I really can't believe Necrit out of all the people is trying to make this situation a 'it's a good thing actually!'. It's not.
He's not missing any point, he's purposely gaslighting you because his career depends on it, he's trash who is actively gaslighting everyone into falling for Riot's greed by covering it, and HE'S getting paid for it, disgusting.
@@evoxghiretti "New season is looking great so far and look how many views this cinematic has get a life kids who needs rewards for playing also everyone complaining about game changes is just a filthy low elo bob cause pros are having a blast" ....yes.
I don’t think necrit understands how much skin acquisition has been nerfed. Usually you get 2 free orbs per battle pass but now you get one random skin and the Elise skin which is of lower quality because it is free, so most of the time just a straight up nerf. On top of that it is now impossible to have any free hextech chest which accounted for most of the free skin acquisition. It is not just about the keys… Throughout the years I was able to obtain a great number of skins for free, and I fear that will greatly change this season.
Jup from 51 chests per year all aquirable from playing Aram or SR to this shit now. Also passes got worse and worse. Orbs and grabbags too. Looking back at the psyops ones is just sad :c
Absolutely tone-deaf. No way anyone is happy with the garbage reward system now. Every patch is a downgrade and ends up taking something from players. F2P taking L after L.
Necrit: “Mel was received positively”. I swear most people were complaining about how her w (reflect) being a basic ability and her kit of having an execute passive on top of that is cancer.
I've been completeley f2p player since 2018 and... nothing changed on my end, like, even if I got any free skin, they were mostly things I wasn't interested, and it took a lot of effort to get them so, I'm on that camp of "This is better" like necrit explained
It is a f2p game with 0 incentives to spend money on it as well, eccept cuz art. Most players spend nothing. To be that upset that people that spend nothing on a product get less doesnt really fit. It sucks but it's not really that big of a deal when viewed in it's entirety.
@@BlaxeFrost-X 6 years is enough time to get the champs that you like. I have beeen playing for a year and I also have most of the champs that interest me. A new player will not have the luxury of playing champs they want. They will have to use the nerfed blue essence gathering system or wait for a weekly rotation (to play for a week or less if they are a casual player).
You are right, but they made a few hours ago a post on the community channel on Instagram that they said "we fucked up" and promised to add stuff in the next couple patches, so mayyyyybe they'll actually do sth here
Without the freely obtainable Hextech chests, a major motivator for me to play this game has simply disappeared. I bet new players love this chance too.
this is peak gaslighting, what the hell is this lmao? what do you mean straight forward rewards? they are silently gutting the free rewards bit by bit the last few years, acquiring chests and playing new champions to get an S was so fun and it played a huge part in my reason and will to play the game and also the same to ALL of my friends. then they reduce the number of chests significantly, and then they remove it ENTIRELY. they removed two free orbs, they removed capsules (just so we cant get mythic essence from them anymore, also restricting blue essence for whatever reason) which is literally the craziest change. levelling up is now TOTALLY useless. keys are totally useless. orange essence is totally useless. this is an absolute circus, and it made me never want to play again, which i most definitely won't lmao. i guess everything comes to an end. also going fully out of their way to make the free skins epic tier or less is so pathetic its the final nail in the coffin to their dignity. how is everyone defending this is beyond me.
If you are okay with riot removing hextech chests, capsules, the tokens, and other stuff.... you're are not on the same reality. Or you never even played the game
I'd be fine with removing the chests, capsules, shards and tokens if riot didn't change the average amount of rewards we can get. Actually, I wouldn't care if riot removed the entire crafting system as long as they made good free passes.
People justify it by saying what about Arcane/Noxian they need money to make those acting like it's not a billion dollar company making it in the first place 😂
The new riot system is completely garbage. Like utter trash. Honestly, I am annoyed you are defending it at all. I get that you have a good relationship with the company, but the slashes to rewards are terrible. Taking away level up rewards feels terrible as it kills the excitement for essence emporium. Taking away the chests feels terrible as now the only way to get older skins is to just buy them directly. I loved having a random assortment of skins for champions I barely used. It made aram more fun. Now, it just means I'll never get any old skins for anyone. It all feels terrible. I just had to add. They took away BOTH, level up rewards and all of the free battle pass rewards they used to give. Then they replaced those battle pass rewards with a significantly nurfed version of what I used to get far more of for free through leveling up and they have the nerve to call that an improvement. Throwing 1 or 2 free skins at me that I have no say in or control over, unlike before with shards, while then forcing the only possible option of getting anything else through payments, in addition to constantly shoving fomo at my face by producing more and more limitedly obtainable skins... While ALSO nurfing mythic essence acquisition. Seriously, all of the new changes are a spit in the face of players that were free to play, or players like myself that would spend like 40 dollars a year. Absolute horse manure.
I just had to add. They took away BOTH level up rewards and all of the free battle pass rewards they used to give. Then they replaced those battle pass rewards with a significantly nurfed version of what I used to get far more of for free through leveling up and they have the nerve to call that an improvement. Throwing 1 or 2 free skins at me that I have no say in or control over, unlike before with shards, while then forcing the only possible option of getting anything else through payments, in addition to constantly shoving fomo at my face by producing more and more limitedly obtainable skins... While ALSO nurfinc mythic essence acquisition. Seriously, all of the new changes are a spot in the face of players that were free to play, or players like myself that would spend like 40 dollars a year. Absolute horse manure.
@@MrMultiSingularity So real, i now find playing the game literally pointless. I played 2 games since the release of the new season and i cant find myself playing again. The shock i had when i saw the battle pass "rewards"...oh my god, then to find out they removed lvl up rewards, chests and all the things i literally played for. Anyway, i dont think i ll ever play again and idk how other people would continue playing besides the ranked dudes
Honestly a really bad video necrit, it's mostly you saying the new season is ok and fine even though it's not. Hextech chest and orbs are better than the current pass cause those ugly skins can be turned into orange essence to unlock the skin shards I have lying around. The chest also gives higher tiered skins unlike the free version of the current pass which gives mid to low tier skins which is not better. I don't know who said the current pass is better, they might be blind. Game side, the update is really fast phased that even the new "respawning towers" are rarely used at all because Riot wants a fast ending game and more aggressive playstyle which you don't experience because you haven't played rank games I guess.
terrible takes, tbh. Unexpectedly terrible. I’ve been consistently spending on battle passes and pumping free income into league because I enjoyed the experience and valued the rewards I received. I started as a free2play player, happy to get the occasional random skin for a champ I liked from a chest and enjoy it for a day or two and repeated this cycle. It made me try out champs that I got skins for, I liked the idea of learning and trying out something new with friends -- this is what kept me in league. I know many players who kept playing with their friends and enjoyed getting random skins and just chilling while getting their dopamine hits from stuff like that, staying casual and eventually deciding to spend money on league when they feel like it. And I know for sure that most of these players are now cut from the game. There's no incentive to do smth like that anymore. and you blaming players who engage with the system to earn something new and get their dopamine hit seems even more wrong, then simplifying it to "we play games for fun, right?" and "quit if you play the game for this" misses the bigger issue entirely. We’re seeing the system get progressively worse: fewer rewards, more gacha mechanics, champs are overly difficult to acquite and an increasingly predatory approach (receive less, play more/pay more) towards people who are actually willing to pay for stuff. Necrit, if there’s something inherently wrong with how customers are being treated, it should be called out, not glossed over by highlighting the positives of the new season. There’s no fun in being tricked into spending more money for fewer rewards, especially when it excludes free-to-play players from what they could previously earn.
Exactly, never expected necrit to have such a bad take and just say don't play the game if you can't deal with having your source of enjoyment taken away from you. But I guess everyone will eventually have a terrible take
Necrit been a riot glazzer for a while now, all the "criticism" he has when there's topic like this is so soft might as well be put it in the trash. Saying we should play games for fun, but everyone's fun and enjoyment is a certain part of the game, just like how some people enjoy playing ranked, I had fun collecting icons, but from his argument I should be playing something else more fun, what a restarted take.
Exactly! One of the things keeping me invested in the game was getting a new skin from a reroll and deciding that was my main for the week. It just spices the game up in a way that Riot refuses to with the same meta's every fucking year with a rotation of maybe 5 new meta champs a year. This year it started with Viktor getting his chance to shine but he will eventually be nerfed and Ill be trolling if I dont pick akali or syndra.
I kinda disagree with all of this. People don't play the game for the sake of getting random skins, I hated the old Hextech Chests and although I disagree with the change of like legit removing them; they were awful. You complain about "more gacha mechanics" but the only thing here are the mega expensive gacha skins that you don't have to engage with at all. Like sure using Gacha at all is shitty and I don't like it, but how tf can you be so pressed about Gacha and then sit and pretend like Hextech Chests... the totally randomized "You'll get a skin out of a pool of 1400+" mechanic are some "good thing" we lost. They didn't even give you anything half the time. The orbs were better, its a shame we lost those. Necrit also didn't blame players who engage with the system, he pretty clearly outlined that its an unnecessary system that doesn't contribute to the reason that you ought to be playing a game, which is totally fair. I like skins quite a lot, so I buy them, the free ones are like a nice little side opportunity sometimes, but they're always shit drops from the randomized mechanics half the time anyways. "increasingly predatory approach" ? example? The only thing I can think of is the Gacha mechanic, but if you're dumb enough to pay $200+ on a gacha skin then I don't think you deserved the money in the first place. "Champs are overly difficult to acquire" No they aren't, you get like 20 champions just from playing the game at the start, and what 20+ more over the course of a year of play time if you do the bare minimum? I mean its slow sure, but come on, that's not "unfair". So then I ask; how are customers being mistreated? You just don't like that you're not getting as much free stuff, that's not mistreatment of customers, they don't owe you free rewards. If you don't like the direction of the game then you can complain, you can not play it, etc. But you're not a victim, that's ridiculous. "tricked into spending money", again, how? Where's the deception?
Absolutely agreed. When I noticed there were no more chests, I was honestly deeply depressed about this. I waited for Necrit's take on that and... felt kinda let down. (I really miss when I only had to get an S on a champion to get a chest, that's when I really had fun by playing different champions)
HE ACT LIKE ROIT PR TEAM, he just tell lies and say the opposite of what players are saying what they hate. as if we are dumb.... he really does disgust me.
The old system for a weekly chest was actualy awesome, it forced people to try new champs and actualy play well to get a chest it was not a compleatly free chest as you would have to invest a couple of games to get it.
Necrit trying so incredibly hard to downplay how much of a shitshow this season release has been with the changes to rewards. Even the paid battlepass is absolute garbage now.
They didnt "nerf" free rewards, the decimated them. In 2023 I got 78 skins, I paid for maybe 4-5 of them, the rest was chests and orbs. Now the pass gives us 1 skin shard, meaning that (a year being 3 splits, i.e. three passes) I will get only 3 skins, there is literally nothing else noteworthy in the pass. They essentially completely killed f2p rewards.
the removal of rewards for getting S on champions and the honor reward skins also ending this year also help to the increase in toxicity, you don't get rewarded by playing good, so trolls have less inconveniences
I think Necrit is really missing the point here. The change isn't that they are removing randomness and making rewards better, they are straight up just removing things and we are getting way less than before now. As for the other points, the part about how the pros are laughing that nothing changed is also false as a huge part of the pro base have complained about the new season. Even if the stats for snowballing have not changed, a lot of the changes made are frustrating to play against (Atakhan Revive for example) Overall, I feel this video is minimizing a lot of issues which Riot have admitted to themselves publicly for some reason while not really taking into account a ton of factors
@@armandesportsvods its even still random because we dont know what Riot is doing so whatever skin shows up next for free is random. Elise this time but next it could be fizz and after that its garen, theres no logical track or any way to claim this is more fair. I dont play elise a free skin of her is nothing, a skin shard was currency to get stuff I like if I just held onto it.
ranked rewards used to be victorious skins + a bunch of other rewards like chests, masterwork chest, champion icons even emotes. now it's just a victorious skin. great. That'll get me to stay sane playing ranked.
Every now and again I watch Necrit's videos even though I haven't played League of Legends in nearly two years. Only reason being that whatever news that happens it makes me so glad that I don't play anymore, and listening to Necrit makes me happy I'm not someone who tries to defend a game studio that doesn't gaf about it's users
You do know that he can't bite the hand that feeds him, right? It's like bad mouthing your boss while you still work him them. He did critisize some things, though, so he didn't say everything is rose-colored and rainbows. A sellout would simply say everything's fine
It's funny to see Necrit talk about people should play for fun when skins are the main selling point for League players and OTPs finishing their collection (who are also cucked by gacha skins) Earning chests are nice rewards like a treat for yourself, which you have no control over the outcome. Who the f is defending this removal? These people give off huge "this doesn't affect me, so i don't care" vibes
@@PiantaBroker by his logic skins shouldn't even exist, just have fun with the game. What? Do you want a reward after spending hundreds of hours in this limbo called League of Legends, you absolute monster, just enjoy the ride. Wow, i sure love losing 3 ranked games in a row and being called a slur in the chat, so much fun
While I understand that you should play a game to have fun, but... if you go play football every weekend and get ice cream as a reward for free since many YEARS, then suddenly they say "no more ice cream unless you pay us 5€ (its worth 1€)" then you sure as hell are pissed and unmotivated of course I don't play football because of the ice-cream but the change is so greedy and disingenuous that it makes me dislike or even hate you - and might even want to play different things instead
@@viniciuspedrosa2405 funnily enough, I did a reddit post on that exact issue and that is one of the very few that remains untouched by the mods of the main league of legends subreddit a few thousand upvotes and hundreds of comments, bigger than a few posts that are covered by necrit and co, but is never mentioned either
Necrit : Skins is not important thing in League. Necrit in previous video: Ah lore skin on Mordekaiser will be gacha skin, looks like i"ll need to support gacha machine .
yeahh idk Necrit has been lowk bootlicking the hell out of Riot lately when he used to be really vocal abt the bad parts. Like obviously people are gonna be upset ranked skins are easier to get, the whole point is theyre supposed to be competitive and ranked exclusive skins 🥲 hes been so soft on them lately and has been putting down people with genuine concerns and hurt feelings.
@@gatasfritas Thanks for your comment, I've been looking to search a few which recognize this, which I've found like 2-3 with yours. It just seems like he's trying so hard to nitpick stuff and say how "this isn't as bad as it looks", I love his content but it feels as if he's being aimed so he says the best about the company.
@gatasfritas agree, after Riot started noticing him around first season of Arcane, he started justifying their shitty actions more and more ... his statement in this video that "it is fine, that new people cannot buy new champs, because Riot knows about it and they might do something about it" is kinda wild
Hes not even being subtle, when the entire video is - Complaint - Necrit makes fun of the complaint - Necrit says the problem is not a problem actually. Thats just... Such obvious shilling.
@@Andrius971 He did point out problems, though, like the toxicity issue with the First Blood and that removing orbs wasn't the best of ideas, or that taking years to grind for content isn't good. Now, if you were paid a lot to talk about a content that its creators are paying/sponsoring you to talk about and everything you do revolves around it... you really can't go all against it since that'd leave you jobless. Don't bite the hand that feeds you, they say. He does critizise things, but he can't be as direct and "to-the-yugular" as he used to if he wants to keep his status. It's simply not possible. If you don't like what he's become, you can unsubscribe and go look for another LoL content creator
@@DeidaraIsTheBest10 That's the problem, we only have Vandiril remaining... They basically brought Necrit at this point, and he doesn't speak for the community anymore, but for Riot, and it's sad.
@@DeidaraIsTheBest10 He is low balling, tries to make people with opposing opinions look ridiculous and dodges real criticism. He is also not paid or sponsored by Riot, officially at least. That is important bc the optics would be horrible for both Riot and Necrit. Instead they send him expensive gifts, invites to their HQ and inside information with supposedly "no strings attached". Riot has him on a leash and Necrit enjoys it.
"We are not playing games to collect pretty pixels that ultimately have no value besides emotional gratification"... That's what... That's what video games are. Do you not watch movies either, necrit? Do you not play single player games? Read books? They're just collections of visual noise, no? That provide no other value than the value YOU PERSONALLY ASCRIBE TO THEM. Why make fun of someone for enjoying something that is a facet of the game. You constantly sweep the gacha system under the rug, barely criticising it. That's you saying you're okay with it. So you're okay with a gacha system for the skins. So you know that skins are an important part of the game. Then you turn around and go "Oh you wanted FREE SKINS? Boohoo! Skins arent even important. Wanting free skins is weird."
Necrit, you can't be defending this. Like not having free stuff will now incentives people to leave because now it's so much harder to get champs for free.
It's just a very drastic nerf in all directions, free chests are gone which could give you random legendary skins, prestige skins, mythic skins or even ultimate skins, the pass is now limited to the rewards you see and you can no longer grind tokens for orbs, the free skin you get can only be a 1350 epic skin at most, mythic essence or special chromas and borders, not to mention fun adventure to unlock champions now xD it's insane how less new player will get.
Yeah, I got 4 Ultimate skins, like 20 legendary skins and countless epic skins just from the chests and orbs alone. Now, I only get epic skins and 1 prestige for champs I don't care about
Even though the lootbox aspect of chests wasn't ideal, there was still a chance of getting something cool and you ended up with a decent number of skins. Now, you just get the same thing everyone does from the BP. It's not only low value, it's painfully boring.
The logical thing would be that you get a bit of Orange essence insted of Chest, that you can save up and than spend on a skin you like, just like blue essence was. But riot would never do that, that dose not bring MoNEy
Game companies need to realise (like marvel rivals) that when someone starts playing a new game, they are going to try out as many different characters as they can until they find one that they enjoy. Limiting new players' ability to play all of the characters only reduces the chances of that new player finding their true main and actually sticking with the game, which I GUARANTEE is what happened with a lot of the failed Arcane playerbase.
Yea same thing almost happened with me when I first played league. The only and I mean ONLY. Reason I even kept playing is cause I had friends who know me and said "hey you might like Akali" and I did and stuck with league cause of her alone
nahh having all 170 champs available from the start makes it too overwhelming for new players imo. when i was a new player, it was fun to have a "goal" for unlocking the next champ i wanted to play. although this was when IP was the currency and it took forever to get champs. the method/amount before this season strikes a perfect balance into being manageable and not tedious or annoying
I just think people dont play competative games, becuase it makes them miserable. League has always been known for having excessive amounts of toxicity and thats what the reputation this game franchise has. Arcane though, is enjoying the world of League of legends (Runeterra) without engaging with any of the slop the community puts out.
@@namegeneratorsystem5553 i agree with you. There’s obviously different levels of difficulty for the champions.. I don’t think an arcane fan playing lol for the first time should be learning the game while playing Riven, Hwei, or Aphelios for example. They should be given 2 or 3 champs from each type of champ(bruiser, tank, marksmen, etc). Then by the time they reach level 20 they get another set of 2 or 3 champs, that all have harder difficulty level. I think a system like this would work well.
7:20 I completely disagree, colecting skins in League can be like collecting fossils, stones and other minerals, you can pay for it, yes, but you get way more satisfied if you get them on your own. When Riot managed to scrap this part of the game, they also took very important part which made the game enjoyable for players that just like to collect things.
Man, are you getting money from Riot to back them up with nonsensical remarks? "The game should be for fun... Instead you get nothing but emotional retifications..." What is fun if not emotional retification. I also enjoyed a lot opening random boxes and capsules. Now we don't get it. Plus the new system gives you blue essence once in 2 months. Disenchanting orbs and ramdom chammps I could buy other champs I need. Now I can't do that, unless I BUY IT WITH MONEY. That's what it's all about, isn't it? Money money money. And I thought LOL was a free game. Stop trying to look so smart in a pyjama! And stop telling people if they should or shouldn't play a game!
This is the most flabbergasted ive ever been watching a Necrit video Bro pretending like excepting to get rewards for playing the game is weird is genuinely insane. The part where he basically goes "This guy who likes getting rewarded for playing the game quit because he doesn't like how a core part of the game's enjoyment for him got removed, don't be like him, rewards aren't the point" is genuinely insane.
i thought necrit loved TFT cuz it gave him a lot of free rewards from the pass and an arena in the end, or the way he loved genshin for beng very generous with f2p players and u can basically just play the game and get everything you need, but now saying free rewards in league dont matter? when u have no way in hell to get any skin above 1350 for free anymore and no way in hell to pull on the gacha as a F2P, and if you bought every pass and finished them all you get 18 total gacha pulls per year whiich means you literally need 5 years completing every pass for one Gacha skin
You know it's also necrits and some other people that complain about random loot box and wanted straight forward buying stuff.. and when riot did it.. people are still mad
His point was that it makes no sense to play the game ONLY to get skins, which to me is nuts. If the game isnt worth playing other than the cosmetics, then dont play it.
I remember when they removed the second grab bag from the passes and replaced it with banners, because according to Riot: "People hate to have no certainty of what they're getting. People prefer to know for sure what they'll get" To not even a year later implement the gacha model into the game. Literal R A T S !
Hey im necrit i think it ok to have 250 gacha morde skin because of cool lore! Also i love getting 50 blue from battlepass! All hail riot! Btw skin dont matter im millionare and i still have every skin in the game because i have riots sponsor account hell yeah babyy!! Riot gives me free stuff because i need it gg ez!
have to say, he should stay makeing lore videis, it looks heavily biased and of course he is scared about calling something bullshitt instead he says its hilarious or saying: yea SOME people like the changes which is clearly the minority
The EA like decisions will destroy league Also another L from necrit as he doesnt understand the idea people *have fun* collecting the pretty pixels, that's why there are so many nothing but collector games. 7:02 Remember it costs 22 USD to buy the pass, and there are six a year. Youll get 7 orbs, the couple more skins, and icons. Truly a rip off.
It makes me want to cry. We can't get free stuff, I really love the game, and skins were like, "Here you played very well, have a chest." it was very frustrating getting an icon or a ward, but now not even having the possibility is very sad
He's an affiliate with Riot. Notice how he's never critical of them, at least not that much. I understand it, because he doesn't want to fall off their good graces and not be invited to their events and behind the scene things anymore. That plus he has friends that work at the company, so it affects his judgement too.
For me... its not about getting something for free. 1. 90% OF THE released skins are very bad nowadays...It doesnt feel like much effort are put into them... 2. I spent alot of money on passes and my account... The previous passes gave us freedom of choice. Will I use my tokens to buy the prestige skin? Will I use it to buy orbs? Or will I give all of that up to get the mythic essense instead?. .... It made the rewards feel more exciting. With this gone for a watered down pass....It just doesnt make me wanna buy anymore... 3. I cannot stand. I repeat. I CANNOT STAND the sancuary popping up everytime I go to my loot tab. Its annoying. Like all of that and the fact that the gacha skins are so terrible for the price.... its insane. I just dont get it. Now my favorite champ is getting a human skin which is also gonna be exalted? What has riot become? This is what makes me want to quit playing league. I want to be one of the very few to fight these horrible changes until riot actually listens to its players.... As ridiculous as is sounds. I love league. The path its taking with lead the game to an inevitable death
Cant be bothered to watch all this. Whats the TLDR on OE? Is it just because you cant get chest for free now. I still have like 30+ skin shards, those will still use OE?@NarakuNoHana01
Same !! I quit today after a horrible experience yesterday from snowballing enemy teams, my teams early surrendering on me, and trying to get my teammates to rotate to attican or any objective for that matter, plus there's a bunch of OP champs that are extremely broken with the buffs.
For me it's the final push to not actually spend money on this game, or even play at all. I have tolerated their bs monetization schemes but yeah this is the last straw.
"We want Arcane to bring some new people into our gam!" says Riot while ultimately privatizing any free benefits for whales and not even delivering on the possibility to experience Arcane in the game itself, with Viktor rework not even resembling Arcane Viktor (not in the kit either), Arcane skins not resembling their Arcane inspirations, and any content being locked behind a battle pass. But at least the CEOs will keep having profit! Good job Riot!
the problem is that they actually give him plenty of stuff and gifts so on his end it's actually good spamming 30 videos of defending riot's horrible decisions. money changes people
The randomness of chests was never the issue, as if you wanted a specific skin, the option of getting it directly was always there. Removing all of the ways to obtain chests just by playing is a direct F U to most of the playerbase. But alas, we shall see if this is just a gross oversight, or an actual decision the screw over the f2p side of their community.
Quick comment at the start of the video to give my experience without having anyone else's point of view influence mine: Fresh player here, made an account in 2017 but never got into the game until literally yesterday where I decided to pick it up and play some ARAM with a friend. I actually had fun and felt that I could play this from time to time for the foreseeable future, only to then ask about what type of things I can work towards, if I can earn things by playing like skins etc.. Oh boy my friend probably felt his own heart break into two when he had to tell me that they JUST removed xyz things from the game, basically things I'm pretty sure you're about to get into in the video, like I have a hextech chest sitting in my inventory and plan on not spending money for a long time but won't be able to earn the key fragments for a key anymore. From what I understood at that moment, all I could get was the free stuff from the pass and that is largely it. Riot basically have a golden opportunity to work on player retention with the start of this season and after the success of Arcane S2, but fail abysmally at doing so by actively removing incentivizers for them to keep playing.
The funniest part abouit the new boots is that they are buggy. The mobility boots' enpowerd recall sometimes works sometimes doesn't, and the ionian boots' doesn't give you the summoner spell haste
I haven’t heard the good reception. He said the same about the Viktor rework when majority hated it and he’s only played because he was overbuffed. This guy became a complete shill
Theres no good reception 😭he made it up. Every video on it mentions her absurd damage, unbalanced passive, broken W, and braindead ult. Also unrelated but i like how he mentions the rioter's comment on BE and says he made a good point, but he didn't show the post downvotes, which are over 3k 💀 disgusting behavior honestly.
I have to agree with what others have said in the comments, its not about being addicted to grinding out chests like a chore or job, but having cosmetic rewards that I can work towards and feel rewarded for my time invested in the game is so damn important. Honestly, it makes or breaks whether I'll continue playing a game in the short term. For example, I enjoy playing TFT at the start of the season as I progress up the pass and complete quests, however when its the end of the season and the only thing left to do is grind a rank with no real purpose outside of that, i immediately lose like 75% of my interest. I think there are a lot of players who feel this way. I still need to enjoy a game to play it, but a game I enjoy AND that has actionable goals and rewards will always be 5x more enticing to me then one that just expects me to play solely for playing. If I want to play solely for the gameplay and for a short enclosed experience I'll go and find an interesting solo / co-op title. I'm literal Exhibit A for the ill effects of this change. I logged into League after seeing the new season trailer, thought "wow the interface looks really slick this is sweet, lets play a few games of the new game mode and try and get my champion chests and Battlepass progress" , got 2 A+'s and above in midlane and thought, "thats weird, the progression looks different", noticed that there isin't any chests or orbs anymore and thought "oh", then closed league to go and play something else
Idk why the community "boycotted" the ahri skin for being too expensive and now doesn't react to what riot is doing. We can only earn 15 free skins in the hole year and none of them can be legendary skins, we can't gain 125 mithic essence in the battlepass, they are promoting the gacha by buying the pass, the lvl's are useless, etc.
They're very much reacting, it's just a lost battle atp because not much is changing, threads get deleted and their content creators defend them such as example in this video.
The problem for me is not that I was playing to get the free chests , with the old system where you got an S grade , you or premade, you get a chest , was something I loved , the fact that I got a reward for playing , since I don't normally put money in games , I do occasionally, made me want to play more , now I don't, there is no progression , challenges are awful , mastery got 0 fun rewards, as a player that plays for fun and not for a high rank , I have nothing , give me my free rewards , 2 guaranteed skins from the pass do not equal the technically 170 chest I can get by getting an S grade on every single champ
Dude the absolutely insane combination of Feats driving people insane AND the removal of quality of life features like hextech chests has been so discouraging to watch in real time. So far I've climbed to gold 3 and every single match is an absolute dogpile for feats. The battlepass is virtually 0 value compared to other gacha games. you get 1 free skin at level 45 of the battlepass which is crazy bc ive been playing for a week and only lvl 10. They are killing the game
@OniLifes yeah I also hate the fact that you're locked out of mythic essence now. I am no Kata , Cass or Darius Player yet I'm FORCED to take their prestige skins when I earlier just used to trade the points to get mythic essence when prestige skins come into the shop for champs I actually DO play sucks to be a support player I suppose
@@glaceray8776 One on side i like the battle pass being this shit cuz it means i am not incentiviced to spend money ever on the garbage they come with. On the other, no more free rewards ever is uh... interesting.
I genuinely don't care if they give me random stuff or not, my problem is that they massively reduced the amount of stuff we could possibly get. 2 free skins per pass, 1 guaranteed, the other one is RANDOM and cannot be more expensive than 975RP, you can't save up orange essence for skin shards that you like anymore, because you need to pay for both of those things. they're not removing only the randomness of things, they are cutting the income of skins by 80% if not more, and that's the real problem.
@viniciuspedrosa2405 cuz it's the same as yorick's hat, champion models only matter when it suits them. Yorick can't have his hat, but jinx can combine 3 guns into 1, same thing here, free rewards can't be randomized because they don't like that, but yummy gacha money can be random
When they first introduced the pass system and the tokens were farmable I remember getting up to 10+ skins, and not just cheap ones. I got legendarys and ultimate too. Sad.
I also quit after this patch. The mastery milestones challenges were the only thing keeping me playing bc the base game is NOT. FUN. Doesn't help that they also got rid of the system that influenced players to not be toxic.
"We want new players" says Riot hopeful, awaiting all of the new players that Arcane will bring... while taking every hostile choice against them that we could think of...
easy and accessable champion pool?
simple and fair monetization?
a good and balanced reward system?
Hm... no, no, ... that is not what they want. In fact, remove all of it!
Instead, let's give them the option to gamble a minimum of 200 bucks for a lower quality ultimate skin that used to cost 30 and advertise it at every chance we get. That surely will win new players over since there are no games that do it better!
Neither does the playerbase
Little did they know about.......Larry
I read this with that AI voice on those "try not to get scared" cat videos 💀 im cooked
and even more hostile action against former players and fans by doing retcon after retcon
It's kinda funny that when they mentioned that champ purchases don't really make them any money, I thought they would just make all champs free in the new season, I was literally completely wrong because they went the exact opposite direction.
Yeah it's funny how they said it's not a big source of income then proceed to take the greediest route possible by trying to make it a bigger source of income instead of eliminating it as an income stream.
Yeah, they just decided to make them harder to acquire, forcing newer players to spend to get them.
@@colossaldonut5190 Thats classic Riot tho
@@justhair17They are delusional if they think players are going to spend real money to buy champs in league , what new players are going to do is close the game, uninstall and go play marvel rivals
Engagement metrics. Long term money is better than short term money.
Even Riot doesn't want new Arcane fans to play League. What a thoughtful company.
I bet its on Tencent. Since this stupid Jhin gacha, LoL has become a chinese ripoff what Rito created bitd.
They took how long to make another ultimate and the third 250$ skin is about to drop 😅
@@KadurOrdothey pulled servers off Garena for shitty monetization reasons, only for them to do the same damned thing. How ironic life is.
@@alfa563 the difference is, tencent actually gets their undeserved money now, whereas they didnt/didnt get as much from garena
Guys... They need money for their mmo
They started the season by removing the possibility to get chests, lowered the amount of champions you can get, another 250$ gatcha skin that is low quality and the list goes on actually. But hey .....the cinematic and the theme were good ! Thank you Necrit, now i know where my priorities should be !
After this, they're gonna sell what could have been a legendary skin for Mordekaiser in the gacha machine, so i guess there's still some polish you can remove from the exalted skins!
4:08 apparently Riot found that the chest system was an "annoying system", finding a chest then getting a chest inside that chest was annoying, but for me it wasn't. It was actually pretty fun and quiet surprising to see a chain of chests and getting the most bang for your buck (ironically free back then).
tbh getting a chest inside a chest and then another chest inside that was so fkin hype
also if getting chest inside chest was that annoying, they could've just removed that instead. It's just an excuse
Yeah, annoying for them that you got 4 chests instead of 1. And they said, hey we losing money this way. Its all turning into "give me your money player"
The only annoying part on those chest was getting a champion, everything else was found. But right, they wanna profit even on casual players. 😪
do people really say that getting a chest inside a chest is bad??? bro that's litterally one of the best rewards, it's like you get a 2nd chance at opening, how is that bad
Okay, lets be honest... as a F2P player you want some free skins, probably you don't want to collect every skin, but you still would enjoy the possiblity of getting a good nice skin from time to time... removing chests from the mastery system is a huge mistake, and they will lose a lot of f2p players (which I guess they don't care about anyways)
The thing that pisses me off is that they didn't only remove the chests, they removed the free orbs also. Not to mention the gacha system they are pushing and the lay offs that happened last year. So much greedy choices one after the other
Also , as I see it, the mastery system was important because it encourage players to use different champions, that way giving variety to players and reducing boredom, also giving them money long term because that way people got new mains that will give them some money in skins, now why I would play any other champ that my main?, specially considering how hard is to get champs now
If you're gonna stop playing because you can't get a free skin you were gonna leave the game eventually anyway. The skin might hold you for another month but f2p players aren't paying any bills why would we focus on retention if they're not generating dollars?
If they are they need to work on retention. How much money do f2p players bring in?
@@qlasalle fair point I rather think the problem is the visual. Why atognize the players if the mastery chest that the f2p player get do not make difference? We all know we hate losing something. That is common knowlegde.
They don't care about f2p cuz pathetic whales are now funding them more than what the deserve.
I don't understand how people don't get this. It's not about "well I have to grind to get stuff", its "we like having progression goals but aren't going for pro/high level play". There needs to be something to work towards. For some people that can be skill improvement, but for others its getting unlocks and external rewards. People need motivators and its fucking gross that people are trying to shame others for liking unlocks. Not to mention in early league there was always something to work on unlocking because you had to: buy champs, buy runes, level up for masteries, level up for summoner spells. The constant updates and new champs meant you always had something to work towards.
I started in S2, I have played this game for a decade, when they finally added free chests they revitalized the game for a lot of players. It both gave people with no money an option, but it also just made it so you could have other goals. Mastery chests were basically perfect rewarding players for diversifying over one-tricking. If they want to simplify it just give us the skin shards, every champ you get an S+ with in a year gets you 1 skin shard. If you play enough and enough champs you will unlock stuff you like.
One skin every miniseason is not anywhere near on par with the dozens of free skin a half competent player could get before. You can't just take that away and tell people they're stupid for hating so much content being removed.
There's nothing wrong with liking unlocks and seeing that as a carrot to strive for, the problem is that a TON of the people who spout the "I need RNG unlocks or I literally die REEEEEEEE" crap are explicitly saying that they HATE playing the game and literally ONLY play it for free rewards. That's absolute psycho behaviour. Well-adjusted players play a game they like and any rewards are a bonus. I don't give a shit about Fortnite, so I would never, ever play the game no matter how many rewards you get because I don't like the game.
For real, almost every decision gives me the feeling talks of increasing revenue was the biggest topic as champs dont make money so gouge out the acquisition so players are more likely to buy the starter packs and champs. Skins are making less as people already have ways to get them for free so remove the free option so they have to pay. Players arent buying ultimate's but rather just get them for 'free' with chests so lets take out the option to buy them directly and lock them behind even more expensive chests.
@@leetri ok but like... let's not forget what game we're talking about here, and what community we're talking about here. League is a miserable fucking game, half the people who play are genuinely fucking addicted in an unhealthy way with it. Losing a game of league 9/10 times is miserable, it's just that the wins sometimes make up for it. In a game where at least like 40% of the games are miserable and 40% are just ok, the rewards keep you going.
It's also just... a fucking weird ass decision? I mean, removing the chests from S games, I disagree with but fine. But level up rewards... first of all, what the fuck is the point of leveling up anymore? To show off to everyone how little of a life you have? I mean riot doesn't seriously expect people, especially new people, to pay real money to buy all the champs right? it's bad enough that we have to grind for them and can't even try them out before buying them (unless you're lucky enough for them to pop up in the champion rotation). I've been playing since beta, I remember when I was level 30 for like 4 or 5 years, I remember grinding the shit out of IP to get some champs and I did on occasion pay for some with real money but c'mon.
@@cccfudge I dont play SR or ranked but I play everything else. The last time i met a rude person on leagues stuff was 6 months ago, the last time someone went full rage mode was over 1.5 years ago. I play to have fun and people take even regular SR too seriously. If i want to play a "normal" game I play co op vs AI. No stress, just fun. I've been playing this game since 2010.
@@revendax2584 the league community toxic ty is way overblown. overwatch and marvel rivals are far worse right now. poeple repeat a meme on the LOL community they dont actually understand,
As someone who owns over 500 skins with 80% of those just coming from rerolls this new system sucks. We don’t have any agency in the skins you want. You just get a permanent skin from the battlepass for a champ you probably don’t play or want. We would much rather have shards so you can reroll/disenchant what you don’t like.
Completely agree
true!
TY! yes, i complained about this with the 3 honors skins, like i didn't have akshan cos i did not want him, and riot just dumped him on my inventory, i wanted the skin to re-roll or disenchant... The response riot gave me was: we can remove it, but u wont obtain any currency. Getting to honor 5 gets u a punishment.
The biggest issue nobody seems to even mention is that it's literally impossible for a F2P to get a skin above Epic rarity. The 1 Skin Shard you get is for EPIC OR BELOW. With chests removed and random rewards removed you literally can't get shit anymore
Did i purchase any of the ultimate skins? No but i got all of them from rerolls. This is the gambling new players need in their lives
Did anyone notice how the FREE skin shard in the battlepass is called a "MYSTERY EPIC OR LOWER SKIN" shard. Meaning free players can no longer get a Legendary or Ultimate skin for free, they will just have to settle for a surfer singed or a shamrock malphite each season and fork up the big bucks to get any reward that seems even remotely good.
better than in S4 with no way to get any skin for free tho
I mean there's plenty of great epic skins to pick up, but yeah kind of a shame they gated off legendaries. That sucks.
Frankly, I'm surprised they let free ultimates slide for as long as they did.
They can reroll, so ur point is invalid
@@VicenteprzI don't understand the thinking oh it's way better than before like yeah but we aren't going into the past we are going into the future. They regressed back like why? I know they want to make more money but why defend that.
@@quinnviandsejriot will go into cardiac arrest if theyll know that i own all ultimates and out of them all i bought only two lmao
I noticed a bit of devil’s advocate in this video…
>make the most aggressive and hostile decisions against new players
>wonder why there's no new players
Stupidity and disconnection from reality really do seem to be necessary skills to occupy high positions in big companies.
Aggressive and hostile decisions xD
And you talk about disconnection from reality xD
@@Bickiiification godzilagiroflex is right though. What are you on about? This is the worst changes I had ever seen a company make- it is extremely anti-consumer.
"But you don't have to play itttttt" 🥴
@@Bickiiification If you think hostility is a word reserved for physical violence then let me phrase what a famous philosopher once said "And you talk about disconnection from reality"
riot is smal indi compani.
"the folks who worked on the pass are so thoughtful" yea man, they're so thoughtful by taking away good free rewards for worse ones
How dare you complain about riot taking away chests that you could get ultimate skins to get a champion capsule (when anyone who has played for more than 2 years has all the champions) and a horrible skin that is part of the lore, I guess.
What you seem to forget Necrit is that you'd have to play the game for 7 years and complete EVERY SINGLE PASS all the time. This also doesn't take into consideration the new champions that will come out during that time period. So its a lot closer to 8-9 years, and 10+ if we're being realistic since the average person would NOT in fact complete every goddamn battlepass.
the pass takes so fucking long to level too
@@jakoby256 might get league's new engine before then, wonder what will happen then
I miss when battle passes were used for events, and events were pve and not just regular league that cost $15 to get orbs
11:20 Yeah I don’t get why they’re saying it’s 28K BE a year when that means you’re paying for every pass.. essentially not a F2P game anymore
The pass makes no fkn sense to complete xd
15:55 "pros laugh because nothing changed" this just proved that necrit doesnt really keep up or knows much about the pro scene. Every competitive league streamer i watch complains about feats of strength, even coaches agree. Which is saddening knowing that lots of his viewers are casuals as well.
He isn’t saying that feats change nothing, he’s saying that feats dont really change the way pros play for objectives, because pros were already playing for objectives, it just makes whoever gets those objectives get a stupid advantage.
Then it's a good thing that I'm iron
The way he said it was wrong, adding on what spacecadet said which is completely correct, I'd say it's more high Elo players that say this. Also alot of Pro players from what I've seen complain and whine just as much low to mid elo players, especially alot of streamers who rely on reactions for content. But it's not false information or being out touch for stating that it has always been this way, it has, and if you don't see this/understand this then climbing in solo queue is going to be a struggle lol. There is a reason people are constantly saying you have play around objectives to win games and climb and that people say the 'jungle role is broken', it all comes down to getting these objectives that now are under the feats of strength mechanic.
It certainly didn't come out of nowhere!
This has finally done it for me, its so obvious that Necrit is not allowed to talk bad about Riot. Look at Nikkiboy or TVSkyen reactions and youll see someone who is really talking about the severity and greedyness of Riot.
Youve dissapointed me Necrit, but i guess you and riot are really a match made in heaven, the monkey dances for the money.
God, literally not a single bad thing about Riot without saying "but wait, its not as bad" or a "they are working into it".
Its so clear you are their damage control guy that its not even funny
i cant believe people didn't know this already. He is getting paid too. I notice in the "gacha system" video. Was obvious.
I absolutely hate the change they made with mastery chests. The system last season was okay, in my opinion. You were able to get ~10-15 Chests by playing a normal amount of games. Now, you already know that no matter how well you play, or what champ you play, you will get this exact skin in about two weeks or something. There is no need to play good anymore to get an S. There is no need to switch champs anymore. And then, in the end, you don't even get the fun of opening a chest. This is literally what kept me playing. I just want to see what skin I get, even if most skins you get are bad its still fun. And there is always that tiny chance of getting an ultimate skin (I got 3 of them this way btw.)
Now, you already know what skin you will get after hours of gameplay. It just doesnt feel good. Also, after you unlocked that skin, you cannot get anything of value free 2 play.
I know he made that point of how you should play the game for fun, not rewards. But for me, the fun was always getting rewards if I performed well. That just felt good. Now it's just like "Oh, I went 0/10, anyways heres the daily mission XP and some other random quest I completed, bringing me to level 13 of the battle pass which gives me absolutely nothing. Wow."
The rewards were a fun ADDITION. Necrit is missing that. They took away an element that helped F2P players, an element that also maintained player retention since they could get skins they might like for completely free as long as they continued playing.
I cannot accept anyone defending the decision to remove F2P rewards ENTIRELY.
Literally, I get the whole thing about playing it for fun. But realistically, that's not how League of Legends works. Many of its own community tell new players not to play the game. People don't just play league because it's fun, (some may) but most do not. They do it because they get something out of it, whether it is chest, rank mastery, champions etc. And completely removing that from the game makes people not want to play, because they aren't getting anything out of playing it anymore. Even the smallest reward keeps people playing.
One thing I think is so stupid is taking away the ability to get free chest. And now you can only get it by spending money. Why would I spend money on a chest when I can just buy the item I want. Chest are literally designed for the free players, and it's doesn't make sense to remove them.
When they changed the ranked system to where everybody gets the skin, they lost all incentive for people to play good and take it seriously. I stopped playing ranked because i noticed more people troll than they do in draft pick
I feel like this is the same change they did in overwatch, where they sell you the idea of you are gona get skins you want for free but in the end you get the most mediocre skins possible while all the cool skins you could pull in the past are now insanely expensive
They didn't even started trying to sell that promise, look at the skins from the battlepass, they are so far out of riot's standarts.
nah but the thing is even if the free overwatch skins you get arent the best some are actually really nice and cool unlike whatever riot will make and im not defending overwatch but when our free skin is a horrible elise 530 skin from back in the day and overwatch gets a full on slime skin for echo *my personal favorite free epic theyve thrown out that ive seen* its funny how bad riot is when they try using systems from other games cause its always somehow x2 or more worse
I agreed with you I quit Overwatch because of it. Why keep playing when you get absolute nothing for playing it.
overwatch did this but it became a free game, this was already a free game, this is much worse than overwatch
You are being so generous with riot, this is just worse in every way
He’s not generous he’s a riot partner
It funny u people havent realised that he is riot side on everything. Literally tries calm community down always for them.
Yeah I‘ve given up on taking him seriously. Every argument Riot has had about needing more money can just be countered by pointing at nintendo‘s old CEO who‘d rather take a huge paycut, than lay off some people.
His income is directly tied to League's success, of course he is.
@@Geologese So is Nickyboi, Dumbs and TBSkyen. I don't see them downplaying what Riot is doing like him
People, including Necrit, are missing the point of why someone might play to get 'pretty pixels'. Of course those people play for fun, but part of that fun is unlocking things. I like league, I really enjoy the games themselves, especially when playing with friends, but part of enjoying the game is getting that 'A' or 'S+', getting the milestone achivment thingies, getting another key fragment when I log in, getting a new chest and getting to open it, rerolling skins because I will *totally* get something good this time. It's a big part of why I play the game, that dopamine rush of unlocking new things, and I am speaking as someone who DOES pay. I buy the passes, orbs, every skin for my favourite champion, even if they are horrible, because I like the idea of having 'everything' for my favourite character. The point isn't 'boo hoo I can't get free stuff anymore so the game isn't fun'. Playing the game is fun, winning or even loosing gives me that 'one more' need, but after that there is *nothing*. It's playing for the sake of playing, and thats cool! But there is only so much fun that can give. A big part of it is just gone, there is no further motivation behind it. Don't even get me started on the champion capsules, or how "better" the new pass is. The decisions were both garbage, and getting new skins for champions you probably don't even have won't make me want wo play those champions. You know what did motivate me to try new champs? Rolling an epic or a legendary skin, thinking, damn thats a really cool skin, and either enchanting a champion shard or waiting for the champion to show up in the free rotation so I can try them out. The skins on the passes might have pretty splash arts but they aren't looking half as good in game. I really can't believe Necrit out of all the people is trying to make this situation a 'it's a good thing actually!'. It's not.
SPEAK LOUDER FOR ME IN THE BACK 🗣️
He's not missing any point, he's purposely gaslighting you because his career depends on it, he's trash who is actively gaslighting everyone into falling for Riot's greed by covering it, and HE'S getting paid for it, disgusting.
Haha the phrase “can’t bite the hand that feeds you” is so true for Necrit
This/\ !!!!!!!!!!!!
180k views and 10k thumbs up. It tells all. He should completely shy away from this subject.
@@godwishyoutube no he should actually cover it properly, instead of slobbering on riots meat.
my poor boy
he is trying so hard to make us think positive when this is a literal shitshow
i mean he was a rioter so it makes sense for him trying to justify this attrocities
@@CitizenOfEarth69 huuh hes always been a TH-camr
Maybe I watched a different video but he did say all of it was bad.
@@CitizenOfEarth69 he was always a youtuber but has alot to lose from his partnership with riot and connection to alot of riotlers
@@evoxghiretti "New season is looking great so far and look how many views this cinematic has get a life kids who needs rewards for playing also everyone complaining about game changes is just a filthy low elo bob cause pros are having a blast" ....yes.
I don’t think necrit understands how much skin acquisition has been nerfed. Usually you get 2 free orbs per battle pass but now you get one random skin and the Elise skin which is of lower quality because it is free, so most of the time just a straight up nerf. On top of that it is now impossible to have any free hextech chest which accounted for most of the free skin acquisition. It is not just about the keys… Throughout the years I was able to obtain a great number of skins for free, and I fear that will greatly change this season.
He doesnt give a damn, I wonder how much he was paid by Riot
Jup from 51 chests per year all aquirable from playing Aram or SR to this shit now. Also passes got worse and worse. Orbs and grabbags too. Looking back at the psyops ones is just sad :c
Are those people that like the new system in the room with us right now?
I just want to talk to them :D
Ow no I actually love the fact I'm not getting any free stuff anymore
They don't exist
you mean riot themselves?
Swiftplay is good. I guess the feats of strength and Athakan are okay. But damn, they rly fcked up the reward system
Absolutely tone-deaf. No way anyone is happy with the garbage reward system now. Every patch is a downgrade and ends up taking something from players.
F2P taking L after L.
p2p are also getting canned by these nerfed battlepass rewards, worse skin quality, and batshit insane price tags
Necrit: “Mel was received positively”.
I swear most people were complaining about how her w (reflect) being a basic ability and her kit of having an execute passive on top of that is cancer.
Nah, now we can play tenis with gragas" ult and anivia's wall with mel vs mel in practice tool
Most Arcane fans love Mel, but besides being able to play tennis in the League, there have been complaints.
Why is necrit so soft on these riot changes, the f2p experience for skin is heavily understated by him.
He has connections at Riot so... Yeah..
He seems more connected to riot now so
I've been completeley f2p player since 2018 and... nothing changed on my end, like, even if I got any free skin, they were mostly things I wasn't interested, and it took a lot of effort to get them so, I'm on that camp of "This is better" like necrit explained
It is a f2p game with 0 incentives to spend money on it as well, eccept cuz art. Most players spend nothing. To be that upset that people that spend nothing on a product get less doesnt really fit. It sucks but it's not really that big of a deal when viewed in it's entirety.
@@BlaxeFrost-X 6 years is enough time to get the champs that you like. I have beeen playing for a year and I also have most of the champs that interest me. A new player will not have the luxury of playing champs they want. They will have to use the nerfed blue essence gathering system or wait for a weekly rotation (to play for a week or less if they are a casual player).
"Riot is looking into this"
I've heard that about honour system for years now. Not amused.
Is Shen the last honor skin?
@@AQWOMAR9 Yes
@@ajr_5403 do u know what kind of rewards will be replsced?
You are right, but they made a few hours ago a post on the community channel on Instagram that they said "we fucked up" and promised to add stuff in the next couple patches, so mayyyyybe they'll actually do sth here
Without the freely obtainable Hextech chests, a major motivator for me to play this game has simply disappeared. I bet new players love this chance too.
My 26 keys will be in my eq forever
this is peak gaslighting, what the hell is this lmao? what do you mean straight forward rewards? they are silently gutting the free rewards bit by bit the last few years, acquiring chests and playing new champions to get an S was so fun and it played a huge part in my reason and will to play the game and also the same to ALL of my friends. then they reduce the number of chests significantly, and then they remove it ENTIRELY. they removed two free orbs, they removed capsules (just so we cant get mythic essence from them anymore, also restricting blue essence for whatever reason) which is literally the craziest change. levelling up is now TOTALLY useless. keys are totally useless. orange essence is totally useless. this is an absolute circus, and it made me never want to play again, which i most definitely won't lmao. i guess everything comes to an end. also going fully out of their way to make the free skins epic tier or less is so pathetic its the final nail in the coffin to their dignity. how is everyone defending this is beyond me.
League players were fine with eating shit for years now, riot just increases the amount of shit year by year.
If you are okay with riot removing hextech chests, capsules, the tokens, and other stuff....
you're are not on the same reality. Or you never even played the game
I'd be fine with removing the chests, capsules, shards and tokens if riot didn't change the average amount of rewards we can get. Actually, I wouldn't care if riot removed the entire crafting system as long as they made good free passes.
@@Raulxyz Kinda disagree cause not everyone is rich
People justify it by saying what about Arcane/Noxian they need money to make those acting like it's not a billion dollar company making it in the first place 😂
@@Aarvid_Hati He did say if they make good FREE passes.
Bro transported his consciousness into the league lore and also became riot shill
The new riot system is completely garbage. Like utter trash. Honestly, I am annoyed you are defending it at all. I get that you have a good relationship with the company, but the slashes to rewards are terrible. Taking away level up rewards feels terrible as it kills the excitement for essence emporium. Taking away the chests feels terrible as now the only way to get older skins is to just buy them directly. I loved having a random assortment of skins for champions I barely used. It made aram more fun. Now, it just means I'll never get any old skins for anyone. It all feels terrible.
I just had to add. They took away BOTH, level up rewards and all of the free battle pass rewards they used to give. Then they replaced those battle pass rewards with a significantly nurfed version of what I used to get far more of for free through leveling up and they have the nerve to call that an improvement. Throwing 1 or 2 free skins at me that I have no say in or control over, unlike before with shards, while then forcing the only possible option of getting anything else through payments, in addition to constantly shoving fomo at my face by producing more and more limitedly obtainable skins... While ALSO nurfing mythic essence acquisition. Seriously, all of the new changes are a spit in the face of players that were free to play, or players like myself that would spend like 40 dollars a year. Absolute horse manure.
I just had to add. They took away BOTH level up rewards and all of the free battle pass rewards they used to give. Then they replaced those battle pass rewards with a significantly nurfed version of what I used to get far more of for free through leveling up and they have the nerve to call that an improvement. Throwing 1 or 2 free skins at me that I have no say in or control over, unlike before with shards, while then forcing the only possible option of getting anything else through payments, in addition to constantly shoving fomo at my face by producing more and more limitedly obtainable skins... While ALSO nurfinc mythic essence acquisition. Seriously, all of the new changes are a spot in the face of players that were free to play, or players like myself that would spend like 40 dollars a year. Absolute horse manure.
Preach brother!
lol
@@MrMultiSingularity So real, i now find playing the game literally pointless. I played 2 games since the release of the new season and i cant find myself playing again. The shock i had when i saw the battle pass "rewards"...oh my god, then to find out they removed lvl up rewards, chests and all the things i literally played for.
Anyway, i dont think i ll ever play again and idk how other people would continue playing besides the ranked dudes
The free skin we get also looks absolutely dogshit.
Honestly a really bad video necrit, it's mostly you saying the new season is ok and fine even though it's not. Hextech chest and orbs are better than the current pass cause those ugly skins can be turned into orange essence to unlock the skin shards I have lying around. The chest also gives higher tiered skins unlike the free version of the current pass which gives mid to low tier skins which is not better. I don't know who said the current pass is better, they might be blind. Game side, the update is really fast phased that even the new "respawning towers" are rarely used at all because Riot wants a fast ending game and more aggressive playstyle which you don't experience because you haven't played rank games I guess.
Since he visited them in HQ he started leaning on Riot side of things
He always was on their way before the visits, but after them he went on their shaft ever more
probably needs to keep his creator program or something lol
Maybe he never really came back?
@Tarik. Nah, when sentinel off light event was a disappointment , he didn't defended the game.
Necrit talking abt pro-players opinions while being gold is hilarious, truly a shadow of his former self, just a dog for riot now.
As a casual aram player whose motivation were free chests and capsules for BE for the emporium... this sucks so much i may quit
terrible takes, tbh. Unexpectedly terrible.
I’ve been consistently spending on battle passes and pumping free income into league because I enjoyed the experience and valued the rewards I received. I started as a free2play player, happy to get the occasional random skin for a champ I liked from a chest and enjoy it for a day or two and repeated this cycle. It made me try out champs that I got skins for, I liked the idea of learning and trying out something new with friends -- this is what kept me in league. I know many players who kept playing with their friends and enjoyed getting random skins and just chilling while getting their dopamine hits from stuff like that, staying casual and eventually deciding to spend money on league when they feel like it. And I know for sure that most of these players are now cut from the game. There's no incentive to do smth like that anymore.
and you blaming players who engage with the system to earn something new and get their dopamine hit seems even more wrong, then simplifying it to "we play games for fun, right?" and "quit if you play the game for this" misses the bigger issue entirely.
We’re seeing the system get progressively worse: fewer rewards, more gacha mechanics, champs are overly difficult to acquite and an increasingly predatory approach (receive less, play more/pay more) towards people who are actually willing to pay for stuff. Necrit, if there’s something inherently wrong with how customers are being treated, it should be called out, not glossed over by highlighting the positives of the new season.
There’s no fun in being tricked into spending more money for fewer rewards, especially when it excludes free-to-play players from what they could previously earn.
Exactly, never expected necrit to have such a bad take and just say don't play the game if you can't deal with having your source of enjoyment taken away from you. But I guess everyone will eventually have a terrible take
Necrit been a riot glazzer for a while now, all the "criticism" he has when there's topic like this is so soft might as well be put it in the trash. Saying we should play games for fun, but everyone's fun and enjoyment is a certain part of the game, just like how some people enjoy playing ranked, I had fun collecting icons, but from his argument I should be playing something else more fun, what a restarted take.
Exactly! One of the things keeping me invested in the game was getting a new skin from a reroll and deciding that was my main for the week. It just spices the game up in a way that Riot refuses to with the same meta's every fucking year with a rotation of maybe 5 new meta champs a year. This year it started with Viktor getting his chance to shine but he will eventually be nerfed and Ill be trolling if I dont pick akali or syndra.
I kinda disagree with all of this.
People don't play the game for the sake of getting random skins, I hated the old Hextech Chests and although I disagree with the change of like legit removing them; they were awful. You complain about "more gacha mechanics" but the only thing here are the mega expensive gacha skins that you don't have to engage with at all. Like sure using Gacha at all is shitty and I don't like it, but how tf can you be so pressed about Gacha and then sit and pretend like Hextech Chests... the totally randomized "You'll get a skin out of a pool of 1400+" mechanic are some "good thing" we lost. They didn't even give you anything half the time.
The orbs were better, its a shame we lost those. Necrit also didn't blame players who engage with the system, he pretty clearly outlined that its an unnecessary system that doesn't contribute to the reason that you ought to be playing a game, which is totally fair. I like skins quite a lot, so I buy them, the free ones are like a nice little side opportunity sometimes, but they're always shit drops from the randomized mechanics half the time anyways.
"increasingly predatory approach" ? example? The only thing I can think of is the Gacha mechanic, but if you're dumb enough to pay $200+ on a gacha skin then I don't think you deserved the money in the first place. "Champs are overly difficult to acquire" No they aren't, you get like 20 champions just from playing the game at the start, and what 20+ more over the course of a year of play time if you do the bare minimum? I mean its slow sure, but come on, that's not "unfair".
So then I ask; how are customers being mistreated? You just don't like that you're not getting as much free stuff, that's not mistreatment of customers, they don't owe you free rewards. If you don't like the direction of the game then you can complain, you can not play it, etc. But you're not a victim, that's ridiculous.
"tricked into spending money", again, how? Where's the deception?
Absolutely agreed. When I noticed there were no more chests, I was honestly deeply depressed about this. I waited for Necrit's take on that and... felt kinda let down. (I really miss when I only had to get an S on a champion to get a chest, that's when I really had fun by playing different champions)
HE ACT LIKE ROIT PR TEAM, he just tell lies and say the opposite of what players are saying what they hate. as if we are dumb.... he really does disgust me.
The old system for a weekly chest was actualy awesome, it forced people to try new champs and actualy play well to get a chest it was not a compleatly free chest as you would have to invest a couple of games to get it.
Necrit trying so incredibly hard to downplay how much of a shitshow this season release has been with the changes to rewards. Even the paid battlepass is absolute garbage now.
They didnt "nerf" free rewards, the decimated them. In 2023 I got 78 skins, I paid for maybe 4-5 of them, the rest was chests and orbs. Now the pass gives us 1 skin shard, meaning that (a year being 3 splits, i.e. three passes) I will get only 3 skins, there is literally nothing else noteworthy in the pass. They essentially completely killed f2p rewards.
also nobody is "split" on the system. I see almost universal hate for the new BP.
the removal of rewards for getting S on champions and the honor reward skins also ending this year also help to the increase in toxicity, you don't get rewarded by playing good, so trolls have less inconveniences
Riot failing basic math isn't as uncommon as you think.
Apparently not since they're pricing their skins above $100 lmfao. Those big monies really be blinding them from what needs to be done.
Riot and their pricing specialists wouldn't make math mistakes like this. Give them your money
I think Necrit is really missing the point here. The change isn't that they are removing randomness and making rewards better, they are straight up just removing things and we are getting way less than before now.
As for the other points, the part about how the pros are laughing that nothing changed is also false as a huge part of the pro base have complained about the new season. Even if the stats for snowballing have not changed, a lot of the changes made are frustrating to play against (Atakhan Revive for example)
Overall, I feel this video is minimizing a lot of issues which Riot have admitted to themselves publicly for some reason while not really taking into account a ton of factors
Necrit simply turned into a Riot sheriff
He's missing the point because he's covering his eyes and shooting backwards
@@armandesportsvods its even still random because we dont know what Riot is doing so whatever skin shows up next for free is random.
Elise this time but next it could be fizz and after that its garen, theres no logical track or any way to claim this is more fair. I dont play elise a free skin of her is nothing, a skin shard was currency to get stuff I like if I just held onto it.
Riot paid for his hotel during Worlds. Of course Necrit is pro Riot.
@@Violet_Erin did they? That's really crazy because basically any other content creator who went to worlds had to pay out of their own pocket
ranked rewards used to be victorious skins + a bunch of other rewards like chests, masterwork chest, champion icons even emotes. now it's just a victorious skin. great. That'll get me to stay sane playing ranked.
4:07 to 4:11 "they didn't technically remove them, they just took away the access." -My last 2 braincells
Are you sure you're not working for Riot?
When i am in a sell out competition and my openent is Necrit
LMAO
High diff then my friend.
Every now and again I watch Necrit's videos even though I haven't played League of Legends in nearly two years. Only reason being that whatever news that happens it makes me so glad that I don't play anymore, and listening to Necrit makes me happy I'm not someone who tries to defend a game studio that doesn't gaf about it's users
Sad but true lmao
You do know that he can't bite the hand that feeds him, right? It's like bad mouthing your boss while you still work him them. He did critisize some things, though, so he didn't say everything is rose-colored and rainbows. A sellout would simply say everything's fine
It's funny to see Necrit talk about people should play for fun when skins are the main selling point for League players and OTPs finishing their collection (who are also cucked by gacha skins)
Earning chests are nice rewards like a treat for yourself, which you have no control over the outcome. Who the f is defending this removal? These people give off huge "this doesn't affect me, so i don't care" vibes
@@PiantaBroker by his logic skins shouldn't even exist, just have fun with the game. What? Do you want a reward after spending hundreds of hours in this limbo called League of Legends, you absolute monster, just enjoy the ride. Wow, i sure love losing 3 ranked games in a row and being called a slur in the chat, so much fun
Check his prev video about future exalted mordekaiser skin, Necrit literally drooling on it with word "Riot make me buy it"
While I understand that you should play a game to have fun, but...
if you go play football every weekend and get ice cream as a reward for free since many YEARS, then suddenly they say "no more ice cream unless you pay us 5€ (its worth 1€)" then you sure as hell are pissed and unmotivated
of course I don't play football because of the ice-cream but the change is so greedy and disingenuous that it makes me dislike or even hate you - and might even want to play different things instead
@@CarinaKeKz also they did it with no transparency, it wasn't on the season trailer, they knew it was an greedy disgusting move and tried to hide it
@@viniciuspedrosa2405 funnily enough, I did a reddit post on that exact issue and that is one of the very few that remains untouched by the mods of the main league of legends subreddit
a few thousand upvotes and hundreds of comments, bigger than a few posts that are covered by necrit and co, but is never mentioned either
1:46 it's not "possible" it's 100% and only because of the post Arcane hype
Change my mind. The hextech chest system is a better, cooler gacha system than the new gacha banner (Jinx, Sett)
Necrit : Skins is not important thing in League.
Necrit in previous video: Ah lore skin on Mordekaiser will be gacha skin, looks like i"ll need to support gacha machine .
yeahh idk Necrit has been lowk bootlicking the hell out of Riot lately when he used to be really vocal abt the bad parts. Like obviously people are gonna be upset ranked skins are easier to get, the whole point is theyre supposed to be competitive and ranked exclusive skins 🥲 hes been so soft on them lately and has been putting down people with genuine concerns and hurt feelings.
@@gatasfritas Thanks for your comment, I've been looking to search a few which recognize this, which I've found like 2-3 with yours. It just seems like he's trying so hard to nitpick stuff and say how "this isn't as bad as it looks", I love his content but it feels as if he's being aimed so he says the best about the company.
What u can expect from riots dogrit
@@gatasfritas "lowkey"? He's been shamelessly doing it for some time now
@gatasfritas agree, after Riot started noticing him around first season of Arcane, he started justifying their shitty actions more and more ... his statement in this video that "it is fine, that new people cannot buy new champs, because Riot knows about it and they might do something about it" is kinda wild
5:20 Oh no people hate randomiez stuff. Let's make a gacha system!!!
I am so Glad I quit league 10 years ago😅 or else i have to deal with such a cancerous System as well.
Its quite relieving how many people started to realise what a shill Necrit has become. A complete shadow of himself.
Hes not even being subtle, when the entire video is - Complaint - Necrit makes fun of the complaint - Necrit says the problem is not a problem actually. Thats just... Such obvious shilling.
@@Andrius971 He did point out problems, though, like the toxicity issue with the First Blood and that removing orbs wasn't the best of ideas, or that taking years to grind for content isn't good. Now, if you were paid a lot to talk about a content that its creators are paying/sponsoring you to talk about and everything you do revolves around it... you really can't go all against it since that'd leave you jobless. Don't bite the hand that feeds you, they say. He does critizise things, but he can't be as direct and "to-the-yugular" as he used to if he wants to keep his status. It's simply not possible. If you don't like what he's become, you can unsubscribe and go look for another LoL content creator
@@DeidaraIsTheBest10 That's the problem, we only have Vandiril remaining... They basically brought Necrit at this point, and he doesn't speak for the community anymore, but for Riot, and it's sad.
@@sylphephilippe449 SkinSpotlights is also giving them heat constantly on the skin side of the game
@@DeidaraIsTheBest10 He is low balling, tries to make people with opposing opinions look ridiculous and dodges real criticism. He is also not paid or sponsored by Riot, officially at least. That is important bc the optics would be horrible for both Riot and Necrit. Instead they send him expensive gifts, invites to their HQ and inside information with supposedly "no strings attached". Riot has him on a leash and Necrit enjoys it.
"We are not playing games to collect pretty pixels that ultimately have no value besides emotional gratification"... That's what... That's what video games are. Do you not watch movies either, necrit? Do you not play single player games? Read books? They're just collections of visual noise, no? That provide no other value than the value YOU PERSONALLY ASCRIBE TO THEM.
Why make fun of someone for enjoying something that is a facet of the game. You constantly sweep the gacha system under the rug, barely criticising it. That's you saying you're okay with it. So you're okay with a gacha system for the skins. So you know that skins are an important part of the game. Then you turn around and go "Oh you wanted FREE SKINS? Boohoo! Skins arent even important. Wanting free skins is weird."
Necrit, you can't be defending this. Like not having free stuff will now incentives people to leave because now it's so much harder to get champs for free.
He is partners with the riot game's now .now he is always gonna defend this game
It's just a very drastic nerf in all directions, free chests are gone which could give you random legendary skins, prestige skins, mythic skins or even ultimate skins, the pass is now limited to the rewards you see and you can no longer grind tokens for orbs, the free skin you get can only be a 1350 epic skin at most, mythic essence or special chromas and borders, not to mention fun adventure to unlock champions now xD it's insane how less new player will get.
Yeah, I got 4 Ultimate skins, like 20 legendary skins and countless epic skins just from the chests and orbs alone. Now, I only get epic skins and 1 prestige for champs I don't care about
Even though the lootbox aspect of chests wasn't ideal, there was still a chance of getting something cool and you ended up with a decent number of skins. Now, you just get the same thing everyone does from the BP. It's not only low value, it's painfully boring.
Yeah and you could also get legendary and ultimate skins, which you cant now
The logical thing would be that you get a bit of Orange essence insted of Chest, that you can save up and than spend on a skin you like, just like blue essence was. But riot would never do that, that dose not bring MoNEy
@@justhair17I got like 4/5 gatekeeper galio from chests 🤣
Game companies need to realise (like marvel rivals) that when someone starts playing a new game, they are going to try out as many different characters as they can until they find one that they enjoy. Limiting new players' ability to play all of the characters only reduces the chances of that new player finding their true main and actually sticking with the game, which I GUARANTEE is what happened with a lot of the failed Arcane playerbase.
Yea same thing almost happened with me when I first played league. The only and I mean ONLY. Reason I even kept playing is cause I had friends who know me and said "hey you might like Akali" and I did and stuck with league cause of her alone
What are you talking about, they made the arcane for my players, you don't want to play their game, it's not forced, it's free games hahahaha 🤣
nahh having all 170 champs available from the start makes it too overwhelming for new players imo. when i was a new player, it was fun to have a "goal" for unlocking the next champ i wanted to play. although this was when IP was the currency and it took forever to get champs. the method/amount before this season strikes a perfect balance into being manageable and not tedious or annoying
I just think people dont play competative games, becuase it makes them miserable. League has always been known for having excessive amounts of toxicity and thats what the reputation this game franchise has.
Arcane though, is enjoying the world of League of legends (Runeterra) without engaging with any of the slop the community puts out.
@@namegeneratorsystem5553 i agree with you. There’s obviously different levels of difficulty for the champions.. I don’t think an arcane fan playing lol for the first time should be learning the game while playing Riven, Hwei, or Aphelios for example. They should be given 2 or 3 champs from each type of champ(bruiser, tank, marksmen, etc). Then by the time they reach level 20 they get another set of 2 or 3 champs, that all have harder difficulty level. I think a system like this would work well.
7:20 I completely disagree, colecting skins in League can be like collecting fossils, stones and other minerals, you can pay for it, yes, but you get way more satisfied if you get them on your own. When Riot managed to scrap this part of the game, they also took very important part which made the game enjoyable for players that just like to collect things.
exactly! it’s like everytime you play, you actually get rewarded by things you use in game,why cant people understand that.. theyre probably rich af
Man, are you getting money from Riot to back them up with nonsensical remarks? "The game should be for fun... Instead you get nothing but emotional retifications..." What is fun if not emotional retification. I also enjoyed a lot opening random boxes and capsules. Now we don't get it. Plus the new system gives you blue essence once in 2 months. Disenchanting orbs and ramdom chammps I could buy other champs I need. Now I can't do that, unless I BUY IT WITH MONEY. That's what it's all about, isn't it? Money money money. And I thought LOL was a free game. Stop trying to look so smart in a pyjama! And stop telling people if they should or shouldn't play a game!
This is the most flabbergasted ive ever been watching a Necrit video
Bro pretending like excepting to get rewards for playing the game is weird is genuinely insane.
The part where he basically goes "This guy who likes getting rewarded for playing the game quit because he doesn't like how a core part of the game's enjoyment for him got removed, don't be like him, rewards aren't the point" is genuinely insane.
THIS, i didnt expect this from necrit honestly, kinda dissapointed
@zounita1534 disappointed but it seems he's been leaning towards relentless support with their bad ideas for a bit now.
i thought necrit loved TFT cuz it gave him a lot of free rewards from the pass and an arena in the end, or the way he loved genshin for beng very generous with f2p players and u can basically just play the game and get everything you need, but now saying free rewards in league dont matter? when u have no way in hell to get any skin above 1350 for free anymore and no way in hell to pull on the gacha as a F2P, and if you bought every pass and finished them all you get 18 total gacha pulls per year whiich means you literally need 5 years completing every pass for one Gacha skin
You know it's also necrits and some other people that complain about random loot box and wanted straight forward buying stuff.. and when riot did it.. people are still mad
His point was that it makes no sense to play the game ONLY to get skins, which to me is nuts. If the game isnt worth playing other than the cosmetics, then dont play it.
I remember when they removed the second grab bag from the passes and replaced it with banners, because according to Riot: "People hate to have no certainty of what they're getting. People prefer to know for sure what they'll get"
To not even a year later implement the gacha model into the game.
Literal R A T S !
Good points Necrit you dont seem to be sponsored by Riot Kappa
Hey im necrit i think it ok to have 250 gacha morde skin because of cool lore! Also i love getting 50 blue from battlepass! All hail riot! Btw skin dont matter im millionare and i still have every skin in the game because i have riots sponsor account hell yeah babyy!! Riot gives me free stuff because i need it gg ez!
have to say, he should stay makeing lore videis, it looks heavily biased and of course he is scared about calling something bullshitt instead he says its hilarious or saying: yea SOME people like the changes which is clearly the minority
@@NKjia about what lore tho, riot ditched that part xd
Necrit 2025 is in trouble...
Necrit... you dropped the ball on this one. Hard.
The EA like decisions will destroy league
Also another L from necrit as he doesnt understand the idea people *have fun* collecting the pretty pixels, that's why there are so many nothing but collector games. 7:02
Remember it costs 22 USD to buy the pass, and there are six a year. Youll get 7 orbs, the couple more skins, and icons. Truly a rip off.
Bro this shit makes the Valorant battle pass look good, which is really saying something
Pretty dumb that he doesn't understand that considering that he played genshin
@@qubguy atleast valorant never gave anything so its not like we expect anything from that game 😭
It makes me want to cry. We can't get free stuff, I really love the game, and skins were like,
"Here you played very well, have a chest." it was very frustrating getting an icon or a ward, but now not even having the possibility is very sad
I feel ya
20 minutes of Necrit explaining why new season doesn't actually suck and why you don't need free chests.
Like we don't play the actual game lol
I already expected something along these lines with how long it took him to talk about this, but it still is disappointing nonetheless
He's an affiliate with Riot. Notice how he's never critical of them, at least not that much. I understand it, because he doesn't want to fall off their good graces and not be invited to their events and behind the scene things anymore. That plus he has friends that work at the company, so it affects his judgement too.
Necrit is getting on my last nerve.
Literally so disappointed.
I hope he’s getting paid for this, defending riot for free is just…
I love how Necrit - even when critiquing Riot, must first lick their arse before doing so, to most likely stay in their good graces.
I mean its his career, gotta understand the hustle even if i dont respect it 🙏
@@kerpjosales1615 Riot doesn't pay his salary. Necrit is the one doing THEM a service.
@sumoshepe yeah, and in return he can post slop about league on youtube, which by the way, pays decent.
This video just rubs the wrong way. Necrit just sounds like an apologist without actually criticizing Riot for bad changes.
For me... its not about getting something for free.
1. 90% OF THE released skins are very bad nowadays...It doesnt feel like much effort are put into them...
2. I spent alot of money on passes and my account... The previous passes gave us freedom of choice. Will I use my tokens to buy the prestige skin? Will I use it to buy orbs? Or will I give all of that up to get the mythic essense instead?.
.... It made the rewards feel more exciting. With this gone for a watered down pass....It just doesnt make me wanna buy anymore...
3. I cannot stand. I repeat. I CANNOT STAND the sancuary popping up everytime I go to my loot tab. Its annoying.
Like all of that and the fact that the gacha skins are so terrible for the price.... its insane. I just dont get it. Now my favorite champ is getting a human skin which is also gonna be exalted? What has riot become?
This is what makes me want to quit playing league. I want to be one of the very few to fight these horrible changes until riot actually listens to its players.... As ridiculous as is sounds. I love league. The path its taking with lead the game to an inevitable death
I now have 50k orange essence that have ultimately become completely useless. Wow.
Didn't you read the coming changes to the season last month? I have 15k as free to play
@@lussor1 wot? how? how long have you been playing for?
@@Srikrishna-07I've gotten a lot more than that 😂 but I've played for 13 years to be fair.
@@lussor1 I didn't get my OE in the last month. What would knowing the upcoming changes month ahead change?
Cant be bothered to watch all this. Whats the TLDR on OE? Is it just because you cant get chest for free now. I still have like 30+ skin shards, those will still use OE?@NarakuNoHana01
I'm very happy that Riot did this, it was the final push i needed to quit the game and uninstall it.
Yeah, kinda same for me, I only play with friends, but rn I try to convince them about other games
Welcome to Marvel Rivals
Same !! I quit today after a horrible experience yesterday from snowballing enemy teams, my teams early surrendering on me, and trying to get my teammates to rotate to attican or any objective for that matter, plus there's a bunch of OP champs that are extremely broken with the buffs.
For me it's the final push to not actually spend money on this game, or even play at all. I have tolerated their bs monetization schemes but yeah this is the last straw.
@이마크-r8e i already uninstalled after 10 years
10:20 It's funny that he edited the comment out of Reddit so it wasn't visible how much it was downvoted.
Necrit downplaying shitty riot choices, 2025 bingo card is going exactly as expected
"ThEy JusT tOoK aWaY tHe AcCeSs" Gee, thanks Sherlock. Rephrasing it doesn't make it better.
"We want Arcane to bring some new people into our gam!" says Riot while ultimately privatizing any free benefits for whales and not even delivering on the possibility to experience Arcane in the game itself, with Viktor rework not even resembling Arcane Viktor (not in the kit either), Arcane skins not resembling their Arcane inspirations, and any content being locked behind a battle pass. But at least the CEOs will keep having profit! Good job Riot!
necrit stop glazing a bilion dolar company jeezus christ they wont give you shit
the problem is that they actually give him plenty of stuff and gifts so on his end it's actually good spamming 30 videos of defending riot's horrible decisions. money changes people
The randomness of chests was never the issue, as if you wanted a specific skin, the option of getting it directly was always there. Removing all of the ways to obtain chests just by playing is a direct F U to most of the playerbase. But alas, we shall see if this is just a gross oversight, or an actual decision the screw over the f2p side of their community.
we lost necrit.
Necrit, I think you should’ve just not made this video..
75 random chests per year of randomness ,is better then 1 750skin and a random shard of a champion no one is going to play
A core part of the fun of a video game is the progression. They basically removed it
Quick comment at the start of the video to give my experience without having anyone else's point of view influence mine: Fresh player here, made an account in 2017 but never got into the game until literally yesterday where I decided to pick it up and play some ARAM with a friend. I actually had fun and felt that I could play this from time to time for the foreseeable future, only to then ask about what type of things I can work towards, if I can earn things by playing like skins etc..
Oh boy my friend probably felt his own heart break into two when he had to tell me that they JUST removed xyz things from the game, basically things I'm pretty sure you're about to get into in the video, like I have a hextech chest sitting in my inventory and plan on not spending money for a long time but won't be able to earn the key fragments for a key anymore. From what I understood at that moment, all I could get was the free stuff from the pass and that is largely it.
Riot basically have a golden opportunity to work on player retention with the start of this season and after the success of Arcane S2, but fail abysmally at doing so by actively removing incentivizers for them to keep playing.
The funniest part abouit the new boots is that they are buggy. The mobility boots' enpowerd recall sometimes works sometimes doesn't, and the ionian boots' doesn't give you the summoner spell haste
0:52 good reception? All I’ve been hearing about are the game breaking bugs she’s gonna inevitably introduce 😭
Neeko exists
I haven’t heard the good reception. He said the same about the Viktor rework when majority hated it and he’s only played because he was overbuffed. This guy became a complete shill
i like it
The only good reception I have seen is Mel’s walk and lines. Despite her lines not being canon in Arcane, the Arcane fans are eating it up.
Theres no good reception 😭he made it up. Every video on it mentions her absurd damage, unbalanced passive, broken W, and braindead ult. Also unrelated but i like how he mentions the rioter's comment on BE and says he made a good point, but he didn't show the post downvotes, which are over 3k 💀 disgusting behavior honestly.
I have to agree with what others have said in the comments, its not about being addicted to grinding out chests like a chore or job, but having cosmetic rewards that I can work towards and feel rewarded for my time invested in the game is so damn important. Honestly, it makes or breaks whether I'll continue playing a game in the short term. For example, I enjoy playing TFT at the start of the season as I progress up the pass and complete quests, however when its the end of the season and the only thing left to do is grind a rank with no real purpose outside of that, i immediately lose like 75% of my interest.
I think there are a lot of players who feel this way. I still need to enjoy a game to play it, but a game I enjoy AND that has actionable goals and rewards will always be 5x more enticing to me then one that just expects me to play solely for playing. If I want to play solely for the gameplay and for a short enclosed experience I'll go and find an interesting solo / co-op title.
I'm literal Exhibit A for the ill effects of this change. I logged into League after seeing the new season trailer, thought "wow the interface looks really slick this is sweet, lets play a few games of the new game mode and try and get my champion chests and Battlepass progress" , got 2 A+'s and above in midlane and thought, "thats weird, the progression looks different", noticed that there isin't any chests or orbs anymore and thought "oh", then closed league to go and play something else
Dude the chests. In 2025 looks like a 2013 game. It really disappoints, seems like riot has no experience in videogame industry
Also TFT games now doesn't count towards League pass, that's another problematic topic
They "fight" toxicity so much but always "somehow" seem to add more ways to do it. Just like emotes lol
oh boy i sure do love watching my favorite game slowly killing itself with bad choices
Idk why the community "boycotted" the ahri skin for being too expensive and now doesn't react to what riot is doing. We can only earn 15 free skins in the hole year and none of them can be legendary skins, we can't gain 125 mithic essence in the battlepass, they are promoting the gacha by buying the pass, the lvl's are useless, etc.
They're very much reacting, it's just a lost battle atp because not much is changing, threads get deleted and their content creators defend them such as example in this video.
Because it’s not something worth losing sleep over
the most infuriating thing is that your loot is hidden behind another "pop up" skins to buy
Its okay because between the chest and level up capsule removal you won't need to go there anyway 🤡👍
@@qubguy This. Today I was thinking the exact same thing. They should move that gacha skin to the store, cause there is no point on a crafting page.
@@andrerey29 they should make it pop up every time you launch a client haha
The problem for me is not that I was playing to get the free chests , with the old system where you got an S grade , you or premade, you get a chest , was something I loved , the fact that I got a reward for playing , since I don't normally put money in games , I do occasionally, made me want to play more , now I don't, there is no progression , challenges are awful , mastery got 0 fun rewards, as a player that plays for fun and not for a high rank , I have nothing , give me my free rewards , 2 guaranteed skins from the pass do not equal the technically 170 chest I can get by getting an S grade on every single champ
I got 3 chests left, I shall keep them safe and cherish them forever
I have 2. They dont know they are more important than my children
Dude the absolutely insane combination of Feats driving people insane AND the removal of quality of life features like hextech chests has been so discouraging to watch in real time. So far I've climbed to gold 3 and every single match is an absolute dogpile for feats. The battlepass is virtually 0 value compared to other gacha games. you get 1 free skin at level 45 of the battlepass which is crazy bc ive been playing for a week and only lvl 10. They are killing the game
Don't you get like Renata, Kata, Vlad, Elise , Ezrael and idk who else?
Riot saw people starting to play their game after Arcane Season 2 and decided to change that
@@glaceray8776if you buy and grind the pass yes. But what if I was a main of only ONE of those champs? Would be infuriating
@OniLifes yeah I also hate the fact that you're locked out of mythic essence now. I am no Kata , Cass or Darius Player yet I'm FORCED to take their prestige skins when I earlier just used to trade the points to get mythic essence when prestige skins come into the shop for champs I actually DO play sucks to be a support player I suppose
@@glaceray8776 One on side i like the battle pass being this shit cuz it means i am not incentiviced to spend money ever on the garbage they come with. On the other, no more free rewards ever is uh... interesting.
I bet they plan to make the keys be usable to join any queue so when you run out of keys you have to buy them if you wanna play a game
clash ticket in a way, but for ranked solo and flex. i see it happening through the next 2 3 years
I genuinely don't care if they give me random stuff or not, my problem is that they massively reduced the amount of stuff we could possibly get. 2 free skins per pass, 1 guaranteed, the other one is RANDOM and cannot be more expensive than 975RP, you can't save up orange essence for skin shards that you like anymore, because you need to pay for both of those things. they're not removing only the randomness of things, they are cutting the income of skins by 80% if not more, and that's the real problem.
And if riot doesn't like the random aspect of rewards then why the fuck they created a gacha system. It makes 0 sense
@viniciuspedrosa2405 cuz it's the same as yorick's hat, champion models only matter when it suits them. Yorick can't have his hat, but jinx can combine 3 guns into 1, same thing here, free rewards can't be randomized because they don't like that, but yummy gacha money can be random
When they first introduced the pass system and the tokens were farmable I remember getting up to 10+ skins, and not just cheap ones. I got legendarys and ultimate too.
Sad.
Necrit, you disappoint me.
I also quit after this patch. The mastery milestones challenges were the only thing keeping me playing bc the base game is NOT. FUN. Doesn't help that they also got rid of the system that influenced players to not be toxic.