@@bargla YES! Thousands of dollars damage. Which is why I don't think this was a really great belly landing. The motor now has to have an R&R...probably crankshaft replaced and who knows what else. Not a good job imo.
Don't know about the pilot, but my eyes were watery. I've wrenched on warbirds as an A&P. Not only the sheet metal, but that's a complete engine inspection/overhaul and new prop. The bill alone brings tears to the eyes.
@@robertmiller6444 Yep, same here. Even though the prop would've still been toast, had he shut it down, most likely only the gear reduction drive would've needed the inspection since the bending forces would've been restricted to that drive. The engine would most likely been fine. My guess was he kept it going JIC he would've had to make a last second "go around and set up for a 2nd approach. Better to have been able to walk away from a bent bird than be pulled out of one.
I work for Sikorsky Aircraft, Jeff was at one time, President of Sikorsky Aircraft, he was to this day our most charismatic and passionate CEO, everyone loved our annual “All Hands Meeting” to go over the previous year’s accomplishments. Sadly, Jeff lost his life in a P51 Mustang accident some years after his retirement from Sikorsky. R.I.P. Jeff.
Mr. Haffner, Used to watch a lot of you stellar work in PHX when I was a kid, grew up with you in the sky. Been along time since those days and I hope you stay well sir.
Awesome that you were able to assist the pilot with communications to the tower while he was *very* busy setting up that landing. Kudos to you. And an amazing job by the pilot keeping the nose up till the last moment, protecting the engine from seizing.
He not only did that, but he killed the engine at precisely the right time, even though it was still a prop strike requiring a complete tear down, damage was probably mitigated.
Our helicopter gyro stabilized camera system. Mounted on the nose of our R44. If you notice the left gear was lower than the right as he took off. Urschel said the strut gear failed
That is by far the prettiest belly landing I have ever seen! Almost saved the prop completely. And those who don't know a P51 is notoriously difficult to belly land.
I am german and more a 109 fan but I have some love for P51's to. Great landing and the P51 came out very good with not that much damage. Also, those anthem fly overs are hiting my heart every time! So much patriotism! Try this here in germany and you would be roasted as nazi, worse than Hitler himself!
@@CHOPPERGUYHD once upon a time, the biggest part of people in America where germans. If I recall it correctly it was over 50%. So many americans have german roots without knowing it. Your ex POTUS also has german roots (not far away of my village). Oh and the United States couldn't go to the moon, without the germans, they hired in 1945 😉😅
I cried when Big Beautiful Doll bellied in, that it's the most gorgeous P-51D around in my opinion and to have that happen, does make grown men cry. Well at least she can be restored unlike some that crash and make a big boom, flash, and fire. I feel sorry for the owners pocket book and bank account!
If you own a P51 you don't have to feel sorry about his pocket book. I'm sure he had it well insured. The sad part is that there is one less on this planet. The 51 did EXCEPTIONAL things during WW2 !! After the war u could buy a 51 PLUS a spare brand new engine for $8,000 . Today, you would have to pay $200,000 to rebuild one of those engines !!
@@butchyshoe As an Airframe & Power Plant Mechanic, I've help restore old war birds and they cost about twice as much as owning a Corporate Jet, reason being is that most of the parts to restore them are getting far and few in between to locate them, one time it took over a year and a half just to get a simple part for a Douglas A-26, when we could of hand fabricated it from scratch, but the owner wanted original parts for his plane, then came unglued when they found out how much it costed him compaired to us fabricating it. Just like those folks whom own an all original 1963 Chevy Corvette with a split window, it's got to have all original GM/Delco parts, because it'll loose points at the next car show! But then again to loose such a valuable treasure to something so simple like a few hundred dollar gear actuator because it failed during a photo op flight can and does make grown men cry.
Sadly BBD is no longer. She flew into the ground in 2016 killing the owner and a passenger..... apparently they were doing aerobatic maneuvers at a low level and lost control of the plane too close to the ground to recover.
@@ianchandley There was another BBD in Europe that had an incident with an AD-6 and crashed but the pilot got out. So there are more than 1 BBD's out there, maybe this on can stay in the air longer than the others!
Bloody great, Bruce. A wicked shame for the Mustang pilot but a textbook landing. I am reminded of a cabrio Porsche (?) following a landing gear-problemed small aircraft, only for the passenger to jump up and yank on the effected landing gear, which dropped out as designed, allowing a perfect landing.
Good morning Chopperguy, It's fun for sure! Yes you can jump from the ramp on 130s we mostly jumped from the rear side doors usually with all your heart, ruck, weapon, equipment, everything to you need in the field for like three week. Try a tandum jump with a instructor, it's more of a free fall ... You feel like you're flying after about 3 seconds.... When you jump static line you feel like you're falling for like 4 seconds until the main chute opens!! It's a blast!! We used too call it putting your knees in the breeze!!! Keep it in the green Brother!!
My favorite thing when I worked at Sky Harbor was when the Marine F-18s would show off. Full afterburner on takeoff, then straight vertical at the end of the runway.
That landing of the P-51 D Mustang was skillful but sad. Every time I see one I think of the hero's who flew them. US, Canadian and British. Thank God Britain placed the order and US industry responded. Thank him again that it was Packard Merlin powered. Truly the American Spitfire.
For those who want to fly a beautiful plane like this P-51D,and don't have a computer,i recomend plaiyng Gunship Sequel WW2,it's a really good game of WW2 Air and ground combats.
100% GREAT JOB by that pilot. I hated seeing him have to make that belly landing. He saved the airplane and is 100% healthy. That makes this a happy sad moment. Happy because he saved his irreplaceable plane! Sad to have even a scratch on his LOVED plane!!!
I saw Big Beautiful Doll at Duxford airshow a few years back. With a landing like that maybe I'll get the chance to she her again. Excellent work in the circumstances.
The one at Duxford was a different aircraft - lost at Duxford in July 2011 when the pilot (Rob Davies) survived a low level bale out after being hit by another aircraft
I guess I'm a little disappointed that he did not choose to land on some soft dirt. There appeared to be lots dirt plenty long for that. He did a good job of keeping it straight. Again, I would have pulled the mixture back once I heard the gear doors scraping and stopped the prop rotation and saved the engine.
I'm impressed with how the US does it's timing with the military fly overs That has to stir up the patriotic heart strings. In Australia we are lucky to see any military Jets. I think we only have a few dozen anyway.
Oh my… to bad. The P- 51 is an awesome plane. It is a flying piece of history that played a very important role in WW II. This is a premier piece of our American history and ingenuity.
Incidentally, i think i read somewhere that the P-51 was the first fighter with enough range to escort bombers all the way to Berlin and back, which raises the question- why weren't other fighters like the Spitfire and P-47s fitted with long range drop tanks so they could escort the bombers too?
I didn't see all the comments, but... i have a friend of mine that had a B727 that couldn't get the gear down and just before they did a belly landing they tried one more thing.... a "negative G push over" and during the negative g's they brought the gear handle up, then just before the went through zero G, they put the gear handle down... gear came down and all ended well. Regardless, nice job, but the bucks required to bring it back in service... bummer.
Rest In Peace Big Beautiful Doll. after speaking to my friends in the warbird restoration field, i was very saddened to hear that her last flight resulted in a devastating crash and her remains being scrapped. R.I.P Big Beautiful Doll
+@echorhys1685 Well that's not correct. There wasn't much left of Jeff Pino's plane but that wreckage and S/N were bought by a California businessman to rebuild into another P-51. The other flying Big Beautiful Doll that was written off at Duxford had just been sold to a German owner and I have not heard what happened to that wreckage. Ironically, another German-owned P-51 has just come out of the paint shop, repainted as Big Beautful Doll so there is another one flying again. There is also a non-flying Big Beautiful Doll in a museum.
Hmmm... the sound effects. Were those completely doctored, or just shifted a few secs forward to conform to the speed of light instead of the speed of sound?
This P51 took off from Stellar AirPark and crashed near Maricopa Az in 2016. In 2010 another P51 crashed right at Stellar. My brother was watching the P51 do touch and goes, it had just touched down and came back up a little when it rolled over and went into a building in a ball of flame. He said he had to rub his eyes and ask himself if he really saw that. It happened so quickly.
@@CHOPPERGUYHD Pilot Jeff Pino and a passenger were killed in 2016 new Chandler, AZ in "Big Beautiful Doll" during aerobatic maneuvers. What was left of the plane (not much) is now in California with a new owner for a rebuild.
I flew the P-51 Mustang aswell. It looks like a fucked up hydraulic valve??? I wonder is there a way to get ride of any hydraulic pressure to freefall the gear. There are so many gear up landing it would be good to open the hydraulic system to get any pressure away. Nice shots and very nice landing anyway
I’m confused big beautiful doll crashed at an airshow in 2011 and this video was posted 10 years or less after, is this another P-51D painted with the big beautiful doll livery or was this video taken before the collision in 2011?
I saw a p51 pilot do something really strange with a landing gear problem , he pulled the gear up , inverted push gear handle down and flipped back over and the gear came down.
With help of positive g. At the end of a big loop if someone put the gear down, couldn't that helpbwith all these gs? . I don't make the smart ass, just wontering
+ Kevin Pavlina Repairs were made but the plane and pilot were lost in 2016. The little wreckage that was left has been sold to a new owner to become a new P-51.
You're my new hero! The Huey and Little Bird are the coolest helicopters I have ever flown! This show's for you J.S. How did you stumble across the show? I just started it and am trying to figure out how to reach guys like you and grow it.
@@CHOPPERGUYHD Seems the youtube algorithm was being kind. I'd been surfing the results of Connie Bowlin, Big Beautiful Doll and P-51 Mustangs, and had just watched Kermit Weeks fly his Bell 47G around. Your channel came up and I thought: "Hmm a Chopperguy and I don't see any Harelys, I'm IN!" :) Keep up the good work, you channel has promise! ~Jim LTC (r) US Army Aviation
Would there have been any advantage to shutting down engine before spinning prop strikes ground? Looks like still would strike ground? Probably still a mandatory engine teardown? But maybe less damage?
+ willing killingsworth The same Mustang was destroyed in 2016, killing pilot Jeff Pino and a passenger. The wreckage was recently sold and moved to California for a rebuild.
@@FiveCentsPlease I did not know the history, just read more and looked at pictures of his crash. Thank you for the heads up. So this video taken before the Pino/Tramontano incident?
I don’t know much about that type of landing. But I have recently seen a 17 year old girl who lost a whole right side landing gear and wheel on takeoff on her first cross country solo. And she used the remaining gear down and an instructor talked her through the landing. It was amazing and the way she did it saved the plane a lot of damage. It seems to me an experienced pilot with a 2 million dollars airplane could have done the same and done less damage to his plane.
That is why i was taught to have vice grips in the cockpit. In my experience you just need to trim for straight and level fight lift the floor board and pull the lock release cable. Or did this mustang not have that capability. Just curious….not second guessing.
I don't think anyone could've landed that P-51 any smoother!!! That landing saved a ton of potential damage. The Engine and Prop took a hit for sure but I'm pretty sure the airframe came out with minimal damage.
Unfortunately any prop strike (it did touch the ground) requires a complete teardown and inspection of the engine. Landing gear up in a mustang basically guarantees that process.
@@CS_247 the engine won’t be totaled or anything, but it will require a serious inspection. How many mechanics are even qualified to work on this anymore? 😳
Just knowing you're about to likely damage that Merlin engine, wow. Not to mention the plane. I'm a sheet metal guy & would love to be involved in that repair, which I'd happily volunteer for! Oh, and the teardown inspection of the Merlin? I know little about engines, but I'll help with that, too! I wonder if a grass landing with the one gear extended would've been wiser, to possibly prevent a prop strike & expensive Merlin teardown & inspection?
Being a Fireman's son as well as a Fireman myself in the service, they should have foamed the runway. It would have lessened the damage done to the plane and cut way down on the possibility of a fire.
I don't know if it's the same guy who owned it back then but when I was around 17 or 18 years old, my father got to take a ride in the back of big beautiful doll. It was owned by a gentleman who had some affiliation with the Murder She Wrote TV show. He kept it in a hanger out in a small airport I believe either north or south of Philadelphia airport. I could be wrong on the location. Man it just kills me to see that happen.
+ Brent Eichmann Probably not. Pilot/owner Jeff Pino took ownership of this P-51D in May 2014. This belly landing occurred in October 2014 and the plane was repaired to fly again. In February 2016, Jeff Pino and a passenger were performing aerobatics over Chandler, AZ when Pino got into an unrecoverable spin and plane was destroyed with the loss of both pilot and passenger. Very little was left of the aircraft, but the wreckage and serial number have been purchased by a California businessman who is having it rebuilt into a new aircraft to fly again.
@@brenteichmann2459 From 1991 to roughly 2002 the plane was owned by Edward Shipley and Laurie Shipley of PA. Ownership then transferred to Mike Henningsen of IA in mid-2003.
@@FiveCentsPlease that's the guy. I recognize the name. He was lead in the 5 of diamonds AT6 group. He had both planes in his hangar when we went to meet him. Really nice guy
That pilot did an amazing job! He saved himself, the plane and possibly a lot of extra damage...
This seems to be an old video from 2014. Jeff Pino died in a crash flying Big Beautiful Doll in 2016.
The Pilot managed to feather and stop the propellor before ground "shock" damage to the engine which would have cost an extra $500,000.
I belive one can see one arm of the prop hit the tarmac what stopped the main shaft revolution. Wondering if with any engine damage due to this.
@@bargla YES! Thousands of dollars damage. Which is why I don't think this was a really great belly landing. The motor now has to have an R&R...probably crankshaft replaced and who knows what else. Not a good job imo.
@@Biggles2498 No, he didn't. He should have, but he didn't.
Don't know about the pilot, but my eyes were watery. I've wrenched on warbirds as an A&P. Not only the sheet metal, but that's a complete engine inspection/overhaul and new prop. The bill alone brings tears to the eyes.
Yeah, I noticed that too. I was thinking the whole time he was on final..shut it down...shut it down...ooff.
@@robertmiller6444 Yep, same here. Even though the prop would've still been toast, had he shut it down, most likely only the gear reduction drive would've needed the inspection since the bending forces would've been restricted to that drive. The engine would most likely been fine. My guess was he kept it going JIC he would've had to make a last second "go around and set up for a 2nd approach. Better to have been able to walk away from a bent bird than be pulled out of one.
I know I sure wanted to cry when I saw that P-51 belly land but great job in minimizing the damage to the greatest fighter of WWII!
I work for Sikorsky Aircraft, Jeff was at one time, President of Sikorsky Aircraft, he was to this day our most charismatic and passionate CEO, everyone loved our annual “All Hands Meeting” to go over the previous year’s accomplishments. Sadly, Jeff lost his life in a P51 Mustang accident some years after his retirement from Sikorsky. R.I.P. Jeff.
Mr. Haffner,
Used to watch a lot of you stellar work in PHX when I was a kid, grew up with you in the sky. Been along time since those days and I hope you stay well sir.
Oh I definitely would have cried!! What a beautiful aircraft! I hope he was able to repair it
The wheels-up landing was immaculate. The pilot's skill was outstanding.
Bullshit. Stupid to use full flaps and bend them. Also the idiot left the engine on to wreck it. Im CFI for decades.. Single and multi.
Awesome that you were able to assist the pilot with communications to the tower while he was *very* busy setting up that landing. Kudos to you.
And an amazing job by the pilot keeping the nose up till the last moment, protecting the engine from seizing.
He not only did that, but he killed the engine at precisely the right time, even though it was still a prop strike requiring a complete tear down, damage was probably mitigated.
Good thing you were there to troubleshoot with a great camera!
We’re you using your HD camera to help troubleshoot? Or just eyeballs?
Our helicopter gyro stabilized camera system. Mounted on the nose of our R44. If you notice the left gear was lower than the right as he took off. Urschel said the strut gear failed
That is by far the prettiest belly landing I have ever seen! Almost saved the prop completely. And those who don't know a P51 is notoriously difficult to belly land.
@@CHOPPERGUYHD Yeah, you see it wobble at 1:58 as it is raised.
Man it gives you chills ... just say'en. Both the Gear UP but mostly the Anthem Pass.
Thank You Bruce for another great video
Got a good one coming this week... Sky Crane
I am german and more a 109 fan but I have some love for P51's to. Great landing and the P51 came out very good with not that much damage.
Also, those anthem fly overs are hiting my heart every time! So much patriotism! Try this here in germany and you would be roasted as nazi, worse than Hitler himself!
Hi Marco, my mama was German and my relatives live in Dortmand
The radicals are trying to do the same here in America.
@@CHOPPERGUYHD once upon a time, the biggest part of people in America where germans. If I recall it correctly it was over 50%. So many americans have german roots without knowing it. Your ex POTUS also has german roots (not far away of my village). Oh and the United States couldn't go to the moon, without the germans, they hired in 1945 😉😅
I cried when Big Beautiful Doll bellied in, that it's the most gorgeous P-51D around in my opinion and to have that happen, does make grown men cry. Well at least she can be restored unlike some that crash and make a big boom, flash, and fire. I feel sorry for the owners pocket book and bank account!
If you own a P51 you don't have to feel sorry about his pocket book. I'm sure he had it well insured. The sad part is that there is one less on this planet. The 51 did EXCEPTIONAL things during WW2 !! After the war u could buy a 51 PLUS a spare brand new engine for $8,000 . Today, you would have to pay $200,000 to rebuild one of those engines !!
@@butchyshoe As an Airframe & Power Plant Mechanic, I've help restore old war birds and they cost about twice as much as owning a Corporate Jet, reason being is that most of the parts to restore them are getting far and few in between to locate them, one time it took over a year and a half just to get a simple part for a Douglas A-26, when we could of hand fabricated it from scratch, but the owner wanted original parts for his plane, then came unglued when they found out how much it costed him compaired to us fabricating it.
Just like those folks whom own an all original 1963 Chevy Corvette with a split window, it's got to have all original GM/Delco parts, because it'll loose points at the next car show!
But then again to loose such a valuable treasure to something so simple like a few hundred dollar gear actuator because it failed during a photo op flight can and does make grown men cry.
Sadly BBD is no longer. She flew into the ground in 2016 killing the owner and a passenger..... apparently they were doing aerobatic maneuvers at a low level and lost control of the plane too close to the ground to recover.
@@ianchandley There was another BBD in Europe that had an incident with an AD-6 and crashed but the pilot got out. So there are more than 1 BBD's out there, maybe this on can stay in the air longer than the others!
Belly landings don't get any better than that.
I always get chills watching the fly overs. USA Baby....
Poor guy at least he wasn’t hurt. Must be heart breaking to land your bird like that
Looks as though he shut power off at the last second to save the prop drive/crankshaft ?
Bloody great, Bruce. A wicked shame for the Mustang pilot but a textbook landing.
I am reminded of a cabrio Porsche (?) following a landing gear-problemed small aircraft, only for the passenger to jump up and yank on the effected landing gear, which dropped out as designed, allowing a perfect landing.
That’s quite a story!
Good morning Chopperguy,
It's fun for sure! Yes you can jump from the ramp on 130s we mostly jumped from the rear side doors usually with all your heart, ruck, weapon, equipment, everything to you need in the field for like three week. Try a tandum jump with a instructor, it's more of a free fall ... You feel like you're flying after about 3 seconds.... When you jump static line you feel like you're falling for like 4 seconds until the main chute opens!! It's a blast!! We used too call it putting your knees in the breeze!!!
Keep it in the green Brother!!
Cool stuff! Thanks for serving my friend and standing up for our country.
My favorite thing when I worked at Sky Harbor was when the Marine F-18s would show off. Full afterburner on takeoff, then straight vertical at the end of the runway.
Always a joy to hear and see all that power and speed and talent.
That landing was a thing of beauty! If he has the parts he will have it perfectly repaired within a few days!
That was a damned fine landing. That is a really difficult plane to land WITH landing gear.
You can say that again!
yeah respect,,,,
That landing of the P-51 D Mustang was skillful but sad. Every time I see one I think of the hero's who flew them. US, Canadian and British. Thank God Britain placed the order and US industry responded. Thank him again that it was Packard Merlin powered. Truly the American Spitfire.
He did a fantastic job putting it down
Me flying back to base after a fight in warthunder
Gotta love all those dubbed in crashing sounds. Like watching a bad cartoon.
🥺 I'm glad the pilot was able to land without injury. It sure is tough seeing an old warbird get damaged.
Excellent film footage and sound. Great commentary and radio chatter.
For those who want to fly a beautiful plane like this P-51D,and don't have a computer,i recomend plaiyng Gunship Sequel WW2,it's a really good game of WW2 Air and ground combats.
100% GREAT JOB by that pilot. I hated seeing him have to make that belly landing. He saved the airplane and is 100% healthy. That makes this a happy sad moment. Happy because he saved his irreplaceable plane! Sad to have even a scratch on his LOVED plane!!!
“Tower, this will be a full stop.” That’s funny but also sad.
Sad sight, beautiful aircraft. Very pleased the pilot was ok, realistically that is the most important thing. Hope she is repairable.
Chopperguy after drying my eyes watching the mustang I subscribed.
Haha...too funny. thanks
I saw Big Beautiful Doll at Duxford airshow a few years back. With a landing like that maybe I'll get the chance to she her again. Excellent work in the circumstances.
Same here mate....I hope you bought the programme?😉
The plane and two gentlemen were lost in 2016 in crash in Arizona
@@toddc2466 that is dreadful news...so sad. BBD was iconic.
The one at Duxford was a different aircraft - lost at Duxford in July 2011 when the pilot (Rob Davies) survived a low level bale out after being hit by another aircraft
@@possel4747 ah yes, I remember now...hit by a French sky raider banking too early wasn’t it....I was there on the day before, Saturday.
Great landing, ⚡👊⚡ from Serbia 🇷🇸
That was done perfect. Engine cutout just in time
I guess I'm a little disappointed that he did not choose to land on some soft dirt. There appeared to be lots dirt plenty long for that. He did a good job of keeping it straight. Again, I would have pulled the mixture back once I heard the gear doors scraping and stopped the prop rotation and saved the engine.
I'm impressed with how the US does it's timing with the military fly overs That has to stir up the patriotic heart strings. In Australia we are lucky to see any military Jets. I think we only have a few dozen anyway.
Great save...yet....a million dollar bellyflop... glad all is well.
Oh my… to bad. The P- 51 is an awesome plane. It is a flying piece of history that played a very important role in WW II. This is a premier piece of our American history and ingenuity.
Such a beautiful aircraft!
what a shame oh what a shame But any landing you walk away from is a good one
Incidentally, i think i read somewhere that the P-51 was the first fighter with enough range to escort bombers all the way to Berlin and back, which raises the question- why weren't other fighters like the Spitfire and P-47s fitted with long range drop tanks so they could escort the bombers too?
Great pilot, smooth landing with with out tires, fantastic
I didn't see all the comments, but... i have a friend of mine that had a B727 that couldn't get the gear down and just before they did a belly landing they tried one more thing.... a "negative G push over" and during the negative g's they brought the gear handle up, then just before the went through zero G, they put the gear handle down... gear came down and all ended well. Regardless, nice job, but the bucks required to bring it back in service... bummer.
The gear strut jammed in the well
I’m assuming he tried the high G maneuvers like bob hoover recommended in another similar incident?
Yes, we flew as his wingman in our Newschopper as he tried up to 7 G's with no luck. We used our video camera to try and help.
@@CHOPPERGUYHD Yeah I actually heard that later in the video. Thanks and nice work filming and on the landing.
That was quite the beautiful landing considering
What a badass pilot in a badass beautiful aircraft!!
+ Chris Burnette Pilot and plane both gone now. www.avweb.com/news/aerobatics-preceded-jeff-pino-crash/
@@FiveCentsPlease just watched it! Damn that's terrible man.
Have the Hydraulic valve swap over?
Rest In Peace Big Beautiful Doll.
after speaking to my friends in the warbird restoration field, i was very saddened to hear that her last flight resulted in a devastating crash and her remains being scrapped. R.I.P Big Beautiful Doll
+@echorhys1685 Well that's not correct. There wasn't much left of Jeff Pino's plane but that wreckage and S/N were bought by a California businessman to rebuild into another P-51. The other flying Big Beautiful Doll that was written off at Duxford had just been sold to a German owner and I have not heard what happened to that wreckage. Ironically, another German-owned P-51 has just come out of the paint shop, repainted as Big Beautful Doll so there is another one flying again. There is also a non-flying Big Beautiful Doll in a museum.
I think most of the people commenting are in tears. I hope this baby was restored.
They are a beautiful looking Aircraft.
I sure hope "Big Beautiful Doll" can be repaired.
I believe the original video of this landing was in 2014 and 2 years later the pilot and a passenger were both killed in a crash. B.B.D. is no more.
Hmmm... the sound effects. Were those completely doctored, or just shifted a few secs forward to conform to the speed of light instead of the speed of sound?
This P51 took off from Stellar AirPark and crashed near Maricopa Az in 2016. In 2010 another P51 crashed right at Stellar. My brother was watching the P51 do touch and goes, it had just touched down and came back up a little when it rolled over and went into a building in a ball of flame. He said he had to rub his eyes and ask himself if he really saw that. It happened so quickly.
That was a different P-51 with a friend named Nazy flying it
@@CHOPPERGUYHD Pilot Jeff Pino and a passenger were killed in 2016 new Chandler, AZ in "Big Beautiful Doll" during aerobatic maneuvers. What was left of the plane (not much) is now in California with a new owner for a rebuild.
I flew the P-51 Mustang aswell. It looks like a fucked up hydraulic valve??? I wonder is there a way to get ride of any hydraulic pressure to freefall the gear. There are so many gear up landing it would be good to open the hydraulic system to get any pressure away. Nice shots and very nice landing anyway
The gear strut jammed in the gear well
@@CHOPPERGUYHD Thanks for the info, well that is a challenge!
Where's that speedy guy in the beamer convertible when ya need him? He could've reached up and pulled'er leg down.
That was an Audi.
I’m confused big beautiful doll crashed at an airshow in 2011 and this video was posted 10 years or less after, is this another P-51D painted with the big beautiful doll livery or was this video taken before the collision in 2011?
Sequencing Valve outta whack........
I saw a p51 pilot do something really strange with a landing gear problem , he pulled the gear up , inverted push gear handle down and flipped back over and the gear came down.
With help of positive g. At the end of a big loop if someone put the gear down, couldn't that helpbwith all these gs? . I don't make the smart ass, just wontering
He did a hell of a great landing..
Ooouuucchhhhiiiieeesss!!! Poor Mustang P-51
When did this crash happened?
2014
We wanted to honor Jeffs skill
Nicely done!
I have two radio control models of Big Beautiful Doll. Hope she's able to fly again soon. She's my favorite P-51.
That's cool, I fly RC also. But I have to share the sad news that after Big Beautiful Doll was repaired...Jeff lost his life in it.
It’s repairable folks so relax. These old war birds are tough.
Unfortunately the pilot crashed this very plane a couple years later, and he and a passenger were killed.
@@DK-gy7ll darn it then !
idk about you guys but if I crash landed a mustang I'd definitely cry.
That totally sucks.
$$$$$$$$$$$$
Underbelly skin
Antennas
Prop
Governor
And the icing on the cake, Sudden Engine Stoppage.
Beautiful emergency landing!!! Hope damage is not too severe & she's back in the air soon!
+ Kevin Pavlina Repairs were made but the plane and pilot were lost in 2016. The little wreckage that was left has been sold to a new owner to become a new P-51.
I just discovered your channel tonight. Greetings from a retired UH-1/MH-6/MH-47 driver!
You're my new hero! The Huey and Little Bird are the coolest helicopters I have ever flown! This show's for you J.S. How did you stumble across the show? I just started it and am trying to figure out how to reach guys like you and grow it.
@@CHOPPERGUYHD Seems the youtube algorithm was being kind. I'd been surfing the results of Connie Bowlin, Big Beautiful Doll and P-51 Mustangs, and had just watched Kermit Weeks fly his Bell 47G around. Your channel came up and I thought: "Hmm a Chopperguy and I don't see any Harelys, I'm IN!" :)
Keep up the good work, you channel has promise!
~Jim LTC (r) US Army Aviation
I wonder if the manual hand crank in the cockpit would have fixed it.
Brilliant landing
As an AF ARFF guy, I’m sad to see but glad he got out okay
Would there have been any advantage to shutting down engine before spinning prop strikes ground? Looks like still would strike ground? Probably still a mandatory engine teardown? But maybe less damage?
+@ufgator685 Shutting down the engine will prevent a lot of shock-loading damage. The prop can still windmill.
Shortest landing run in that P-51's life. Looks repairable.
+ willing killingsworth The same Mustang was destroyed in 2016, killing pilot Jeff Pino and a passenger. The wreckage was recently sold and moved to California for a rebuild.
@@FiveCentsPlease I did not know the history, just read more and looked at pictures of his crash. Thank you for the heads up. So this video taken before the Pino/Tramontano incident?
Wow the fake sound effects you added to the P-51 crash where so cool good job.
I’m not a pilot, but, I would say that was a great landing considering all the factors
I would cry like a big baby!!!
I don’t know much about that type of landing. But I have recently seen a 17 year old girl who lost a whole right side landing gear and wheel on takeoff on her first cross country solo. And she used the remaining gear down and an instructor talked her through the landing. It was amazing and the way she did it saved the plane a lot of damage. It seems to me an experienced pilot with a 2 million dollars airplane could have done the same and done less damage to his plane.
That is why i was taught to have vice grips in the cockpit. In my experience you just need to trim for straight and level fight lift the floor board and pull the lock release cable. Or did this mustang not have that capability. Just curious….not second guessing.
What? lol
Why couldn't he come down with one wheel down and bounce hard to try to jar the other landing wheel?
Would the dirt have been a better option????
I don't think anyone could've landed that P-51 any smoother!!! That landing saved a ton of potential damage. The Engine and Prop took a hit for sure but I'm pretty sure the airframe came out with minimal damage.
Sad to hear of Jeffs demise. A textbook belly landing and even stopped the mill, saving the engine.
Unfortunately any prop strike (it did touch the ground) requires a complete teardown and inspection of the engine. Landing gear up in a mustang basically guarantees that process.
That was one hideous prop strike. There was no saving the engine there...
@@CS_247 the engine won’t be totaled or anything, but it will require a serious inspection. How many mechanics are even qualified to work on this anymore? 😳
P-51 sliding on it's belly sounds worse than nails on a chalkboard.
Considering all, that was a great landing.
Did the pilot try to "shake" the wheels out, like in a hard pull up etc?
I thought that too. It looked like the gear was sticking on the door. Maybe a slide slip to press the door more open.
They need to outlaw singing of The Star Spangled Banner and restrict it to military bands only.
He did a great job of landing
It could have been a lot worse damage wise. Thankfully it can be fixed
Just knowing you're about to likely damage that Merlin engine, wow. Not to mention the plane. I'm a sheet metal guy & would love to be involved in that repair, which I'd happily volunteer for! Oh, and the teardown inspection of the Merlin? I know little about engines, but I'll help with that, too! I wonder if a grass landing with the one gear extended would've been wiser, to possibly prevent a prop strike & expensive Merlin teardown & inspection?
Now that was damn cool content Chop A++ Keep em coming!
Thanks Fireman, I have a ton of videos from my career and plan on doing this show forever!
@@CHOPPERGUYHD Good News Thanks in advance!!!
Being a Fireman's son as well as a Fireman myself in the service, they should have foamed the runway. It would have lessened the damage done to the plane and cut way down on the possibility of a fire.
Can you follow up on the mustang?
Yes, after it was repaired Jeff sadly died in a crash of this warbird.
Why not a grass landing? Risk of it nosing over or another reason why not to do that?
It could grab soft soil and cartwheel
Was this at Mede gateway or another
+ Ryan McEnaney It was Phoenix-Mesa Gateway Airport, 2014.
Liked when he kept nose up !
Are the sounds heard as the plane is sliding along the runway, recorded from within the plane at the time, or picked up by a long range microphone?
I have to admit, we added that sound and a few people did not think it was necessary and we tend to agree now that we tried it
Pull 9 G:s and gear will come down? It was a very good landing and the pilot walked away.The aircraft can be repaired...
He pulled 7
Miss your content. Hope you are able to make and post some new vids soon!
I don't know if it's the same guy who owned it back then but when I was around 17 or 18 years old, my father got to take a ride in the back of big beautiful doll. It was owned by a gentleman who had some affiliation with the Murder She Wrote TV show. He kept it in a hanger out in a small airport I believe either north or south of Philadelphia airport. I could be wrong on the location. Man it just kills me to see that happen.
+ Brent Eichmann Probably not. Pilot/owner Jeff Pino took ownership of this P-51D in May 2014. This belly landing occurred in October 2014 and the plane was repaired to fly again. In February 2016, Jeff Pino and a passenger were performing aerobatics over Chandler, AZ when Pino got into an unrecoverable spin and plane was destroyed with the loss of both pilot and passenger. Very little was left of the aircraft, but the wreckage and serial number have been purchased by a California businessman who is having it rebuilt into a new aircraft to fly again.
@@FiveCentsPlease It was early to mid 1990s
@@brenteichmann2459 From 1991 to roughly 2002 the plane was owned by Edward Shipley and Laurie Shipley of PA. Ownership then transferred to Mike Henningsen of IA in mid-2003.
@@FiveCentsPlease that's the guy. I recognize the name. He was lead in the 5 of diamonds AT6 group. He had both planes in his hangar when we went to meet him. Really nice guy
@@brenteichmann2459 I'm pretty sure that Shipley's son is a Mustang pilot with the Horsemen demo team.
Pretty good landing.