Azumarill would have a lot more options now with the combo of huge power, sap sipper, and thick fat. That would make it the bane of grass types and a good switch in
Between truant and hustle, seeinc a Durant hit an actual move would be a memorable rarity. Imagine whitnessing it hit a Stone Edge. Only happens once in a blue moon
@@prateek1.9if it means that it can lay both that's an instant knockout that pokemon that got put into the roulette is ruined. Of course you first have to hit it yourself but i digress.
Azumarill would be fun. It would keep huge power but would now be immune to grass instead of weak to it and also double resist fire and ice Gen 4-5 Bronzong would have no weaknesses too Breloom wouldn't be OP but at least it wouldn't have to pick between poison heal and technician anymore
@@kubabakomnene That change occured in gen 6 where steel lost the resistance to ghost and dark. In gens 4-5, Bronzong would have no weaknesses. Gen 6 and on, it has those two weaknesses to look out for.
Wait... Why would anyone run Poison Heal on Breloom? It has notoriously bad stats except for the weirdly high attack. It's not a stall or a tank, it hits hard and fast with priority. Are you sure you're not thinking of Effect Spore?
@@ashblossomandjoyoussprung.9917 never underestimate the power of passive healing as it means that passive damage like sandstorm and spikes is somewhat nullified making it more difficult to revenge kill. Also poison heal requires means breloom is poisoned which means it can't be burnt, a very good trait for a physical attacker.
@@ashblossomandjoyoussprung.9917 Makes you immune to status and also grands you passive healing. Breloom is a physical sweeper which means that a burn from will-o-wisp/scald etc can render it basically useless by dropping its attack by 50% from 372 (adamant) down to 186. You're also immune to other status conditions like paralysis, freeze and sleep. Besides Breloom's speed, is really bad so unless you're using priority you're getting outsped by like 95% of other sweeper mons. The most common poison heal breloom set is; Spore, Substitute, Leech Seed, Focus Punch. Poison heal allows you a free switch -in on a toxic for example and if you're already poisoned from toxic orb to any other status move. You can force switch outs with spore and leech seed afterwards, and set-up with sub or deal a lot of damage with a F.Punch. It is a set that heavily relies on prediction but it's as good as the technician set.
For those wondering how it would shake up the Comeptitive scene, it already has! Pokémon Showdown (an online battle simulator run by the community) occasionally features Pokébilities as an "Other Metagame of the Month" and illustrates this exact concept perfectly. It's actualy really fun and rewards a lot of creativity, while also banning overly broken stuff. Highly recommend it
Y'know, a Stadium like game that can work with Home & similar apps (complete with minigames & cross connectivity to core games) could give some real competition to Pokémon Showdown, especially if also able to connect to other side games
There are some hack roms too , like Elite Redux and Emerald Exceeded , that add something similar , innates . Not exactly the same abilities but 4 of some abilities related to the mon. I recomend.
I'm pretty sure Sableye doesn't actually work like you said, Prankster gives it additional priority but Stall makes it move last within its priority bracket. So it still gets the priority from prankster but if the opponent uses another priority move it would automatically go before Sableye. Still a downgrade but not as bad as you described it
Most weather setters are gonna be stronger because they usually have an ability that boosts them in the weather they set. Getting both is scary. Alolan ninetales gets to set snow and dodges. Pelipper has rain dish (and keen eye). Hippowdon hits harder in sand. Vanille is healing in snow, and gets weak armor to be a pseudo slush rush if you play it right. Basically every weather team but Sun is gonna be strong.
@antoinepolnareff8970 I love sun, as a fire specialist. But giving all abilities to sun setters gives you nothing synergistic. Immunity to fire on Ninetales. Torkoal's really poor stats (besides defense) can't be lowered. Groudon only has drought. Mega-Zard Y only has drought. Hippowdon on the other hand, gets sand force, so it shows up, boosts sp. def., and gets an atk boost besides. Gigalith gets both those *and* sturdy. T-tar just makes opponents not eat berries. Alolan ninetales gets evasion boost as well as def boost with snow warning/snow cloak. Vanilluxe gets Ice Body, healing it in snow. Abomasnow gets soundproof, which isn't fully synergistic, but makes it immune to Bug Buzz and torch song, which would have super effective against it. Sun gets 0 mons with synergy. Sand gets 2. Ice gets 2 (and a sound immunity). Even rain gets Pelipper's rain dish synergy. Sun gets nothing.
@antoinepolnareff8970 because my comment was about the weather setters. Not about pokemon that abuse the weather. There's something like 40 chlorophyll mons. Some get leaf guard and some get harvest. But that is gaining use *under* sun. They are not *setting* the sun. Meaning you set sun with a mon with no additional benefits. Then have to swap into something that can utilize the weather better than the one who set it. Sand, Rain, and Snow don't have that problem. Their weather setters get to abuse the weather they set up. So there are *six* mons abusing weather instead of 5 for sun. And all protosynthesis mons only get photosynthesis, so they aren't gaining additional benefit. Orichalcum Pulse is basically 2 abilities in one (proto and drought), and it isn't getting additional boosts either. Sand stream + Sand Force is absolutely more beneficial than leaf guard+chlorophyll. And stacking guaranteed harvest with solar power and chlorophyll is not going to make tropius good. It's still going to be leech seed/sub stalling as it sets up a solar power air slash that still won't kill anything that isn't weak to flying. And once sun wears off, it isn't strong enough to one shot things that *are* weak to flying.
@@antoinepolnareff8970 Well, most of the abilities that benefit from sun are from grass types, which is bad becasue sun also boost fire type moves so The other ability that benefits from sun is solar power, and half of the mons that have it are also grass types, the other half are fire and then the heliolisk line, which assuming it also has its other abilities, will lose twice as much hp for just the same boost
Can we talk about Yanmega, who's always been a case of wanting both abilities? Now he both gets a free speed boost after every turn, and can hit you for full damage through your resistances. You can also slap on throat spray, so he's getting a nasty plot boost after the first bug buzz. I guess he also gets frisk, so that's something.
Annihilape is already busted, but in this setup he would be immune to sleep, flinching and would still get +2 to attack whenever he gets hit by defog. He would also have items that would make him harder to deal with. with Punch Glove making contact based abilities and Rocky Helmet useless, Covert Cloak to deal with the nasty number of 30% plus status moves running around and good old Lum Berry for status effect he would still be vulnerable to. No overlap, but with a signature move that can hit for 350 Base, he really doesn't need any.
I think the Mystery Dungeon games did this for a while. Personally, I'd quite like to see what shenanigans Venomoth could get up to. With Shield Dust to prevent stuff like Nuzzle from paralyzing, Tinted Lens to lower the impact of type-resistant walls, and Wonder Skin to make status moves more unreliable against it, it could pretty easily get set up and go to town with Quiver Dance
@@morphstarchangeling8024 I mean, Venomoth still has plenty of flaws -- just makes it so it's harder to stop it dead in its tracks with paralysis or sleep
If they made it so Pokemon could use all of their abilities like Reuniclus with Overcoat, Magic Guard and Regenerator, Bronzong with Levitate, Heatproof and Heavy Metal and Scizor with Swarm, Technician and Light Metal just as a few examples, you'd have an unstoppable team!
We could also talk about Sigilyph. His other abilities are completely overshadowed by Magic Guard, which together with Cosmic Power and Stored Power makes him unkillable and powerful at the same time. His other abilities actually complement that set super well: Wonder Skin makes all status moves 50% accurate, meaning even methods to prevent it from setting up like Taunt are risky. His other ability, Tinted Lens, is also perfect since he tends to only run Stored Power, so Tinted Lens pretty much makes this one attack hit hard on anything that isn't Dark type.
Dragapult and Baxcalibur with all of their abilites would also be complete menaces. Aurora Veil Bax would be nigh unkillable and Dragapult with Clear Body, Infiltrator and Cursed Body would just be an entire ban worthy issue with it's well known Competetive prowess.
I think bronzing would become an absolute wall with this format. Removing two weaknesses, gaining an immunity and being weak to only dark and ghost types is very strong. And it has heavy metal for stronger heavy slam
Interesting gimmick. It could even work if it would be improved. There could be a super special item that would allow the use one normal ability and a hidden ability. When a Pokemon has a hidden ability, it could use the first ability (or randomly between the first and second). A possible disadvantage of this item would be that Pokemon loses PP faster.
Regarding starters, Serperior's Leaf storm with Overgrow and enough Contraty boosts and Emboar's flare blitz with Blaze and Reckless would be quite powerful too. Primarina's Hyper Voice with Torrent and Liquid Voice is another that comes to mind
They did have multiple abilities in Mystery Dungeon. This led to really funny things like contradictory abilities on Lucario being unable to be flinched (Inner Focus) but also getting speed from being flinched (Steadfast). Apparently the only way for it to be getting that speed boost is to be made cross-eyed by a particular seed.
Kingambit would be pretty nuts tbh. Surpreme overlord combined with defiant can be fun. With pressure preventing stall. Also, normal ursaring would be insane too with quick feet and guts. It basically turns ursaring into a speedy glass cannon. Speaking of facade users, raticate would also rise in usage, hustle and guts is pretty insane. Albeit a bit unreliable, but it practically doubling its attack is still good. Lastly, swellow would be pretty fun to use as well. Guts facade that hits ghost types due to scrappy surprisingly pops off. Other pokemon with good combos but would be sunflora. Under the sun, it can surprisingly be usuable with solar power and chlorophyll. It does have a pretty respectable base 105 special. Albeit you are forced to invest in max speed to hit anything reliably. Even then, it makes sunflora into a glass cannon. Another pokemon with that combo would be tropius. However, even with that boost, the special and speed stat is still kinda bad. Edit: A pokemon that would be negatively affected would definately be golduck. Imagine shutting off your own swift swim, couldnt be me
The "gimmick" (if you can even call it a gimmick, since I believe this should be a permanent change) that I'm shocked that we haven't seen yet is dual-type Moves. Without even inventing new Moves, there are an absolutely incredible number of Moves whose names and descriptions already imply that they should have two types. Thunder Punch could be Electric/Fighting. Fire Fang could be Fire/Dark. Scald could be Water/Fire. Muddy Water could be Water/Ground. And the list goes on and on.
Funny, but why would they be crying? With dual-type Moves, Flying Press would actually be fully both Fighting-type and Flying-type, meaning Hawlucha would get STAB twice when using it, a significant power boost compared to how it works right now. @@loadingname4947
Zangoose has Immunity and Toxic Boost, which raises its Attack if it's poisoned. But because Immunity outright prevents poisoning, Toxic Boost would be completely useless
Shout-out to any pokémon with Trace being able to copy ALL their abilities in those situations. Best case scenario would be a Porygon2 copying Clefable, adding the defensive power of Unaware and Magic Guard to it's already overkill defense stats, and patching up it's special attack with Download and Analytic. If you have an idea how to out that thing, I'll love to hear it.
Skill swap truant onto it Or skill swap normalise on it, when you have a ghost type, plus a Pokémon with shadow tag skill swap shadow tag onto the ghost type. (double battles) I mean that tactic that WolfeVGC pulled once, for the second one. The second one needs a little too much setup for this though.
There is actually a rom hack called Pokemon Emerald Elite Redux that allows Pokemon to have 4 ABILITIES and THEY CAN HAVE ANY ABILITIES (and there are fan-made abilities)
Honestly Kekleon changing type constantly could be interesting. Not enough to make it broken, but interesting enough that I could see it really messing up someone if this was prenerf Protein where they changed types with every move they used. Keckleon going from a normal type to a dark type when using sucker punch, the resisting the oncoming attack just to become that type, only to change their type again into something completely different could be a super annoying pokemon to fight with how you'd have to predict what the opponent wants to use.
I think the main problem is that Color Change wouldn't actually have a benefit most of the time with Pre-nerf Protein. If Kekleon goes second, then the opponent hits him, he changes type from Color Change, and then instantly changes type again from Protean when he attacks, resulting in the Color Change switch not doing anything. If Kekleon goes first, then he changes from Protean, gets hit and changes from Color Change, but then he'd most likely go first again and change from Protean before the opponent even has a chance to hit his Color Change'd typing. Priority can shake this pattern up, like Sucker Punch you mentioned, but it would probably have to be your own priority, since I'd imagine a slow opponent hitting you with a regular move wouldn't then use a priority move of their own if they just made you resistant to it, and alternatively they might've hit you with their non-priority move specifically to REMOVE your resistance to their priority move. Even though it would be rather difficult to use Color Change to gain a resistance to actual enemy attacks in this scenario, there are a few niche situations I could see this helping. If Kekleon goes first and gets hit by an attack to end the turn with a Color Change'd type, then switches out, the Color Change typing might help provide a resistance or immunity when switching back in (assuming Color Change persists between switches?) Or maybe if the opponent had Sandstorm up and he Color Change'd to Rock, Ground, or Steel, so at the end of the turn he wouldn't take environmental damage, or some other similar type-specific end-of-turn effect. I think the biggest issue here is the fact that first the opponent needs to hit you with a move that CAN give you a situationally beneficial end-of-turn typing, and then you still need to get lucky for Color Change to choose the CORRECT typing, since there will pretty much always be multiple types it can choose to give you after getting hit. In the previously noted Sandstorm niche moment, even if the opponent hits you with a Normal move that could Color Change you to Rock or Steel, it could still change you to Ghost instead.
I shudder to think about how much Maushold would have popped off in early S/V VGC regulations with both Technician and Friend Guard. Cheek Pouch doesn't hurt either, but IDK if it would run a berry.
Sableye's stall works like lagging tail, it'd move last in its priority bracket. So... it'd still have +1 priority, but move last out of all mons using +1 priority moves Also Durant would suck in this format, since it has Truant as it's hidden ability
Sableye actually wouldn't be that bad! Stall makes the pokemon move last in their priority bracket, but Prankster increases their priority by 1. So Sableye wouldn't be outsped by attacks with 0 priority.
I would love to see a pokemon game where you have two slots for abilities, they rework everyone's ability lists into their level up moveset and you can pick 2 abilities to have on your pokemon.
Conkeldurr is another mon that would be incredibly busted in this format. It has Guts, Iron Fist and Sheer Force: all three abilities that directly increases its power. This was the idea back in PMD: Explorers, which Bronzong had 0 weaknesses at the time due to its abilities.
Aggron has two great ones in Rick Head and Sturdy, to at least mitigate those two 4x weaknesses. Haxorus would also be pretty good, with Mold Breaker, Unnerve, and Rivalry
Stall does the same as lagging tail, making you move last in your priority bracket. So as long as no other pokemon uses a priority move you’ll still go first
Correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe stall makes you move last within your priority bracket, so all status moves have +1 priority so they still move first but if another Pokémon of identical speed also had prankster its status moves would always move before sableye
Stall makes Sableye move last within its priority bracket, effectively making its Speed stat 0 (or 999+ in Trick Room) So Prankster's +1 Priority would still have it move first, unless the opponent uses a Priority move, in which case it'll always move last.
I've been thinking the next Gimmick could be ability related for a while. Megas are stat based (minus HP), Z moves are... move based, Dynamax is HP and move based (with the moves all having side effects like sun, rain, hail, ect.), and Tera is type based (with one move). That leaves ability.
There is a rom hack called elite redux that does a concept similar to this with pokemon having four abilities, three innates and the main ability that can be swapped out for one to three more abilities
there's a cool rom hack called elite redux where all pokemon have 4 abilities and they've implemented a couple of new ones it's definitely worth a shot
Basculegion automatically getting sent to Ubers. Swift Swim + Adaptability Wave Crash in the rain is ridiculous. Assuming you’d be able to use an item, choice band makes this damage even crazier. As the cherry on top, you’d be unable to use water absorb or storm drain Pokemon because Basculegion also has Mold Breaker. With Sableye, Prankster would play into effect. Stall makes it so it moves last in its priority bracket, so it’ll only come into effect if another Pokémon using a move with +1 priority is on the field.
kecleon would high key be a menace becuz you would have to pay so much attention to detail 1 slip and he could throw a random STAB dragon move outta no where and be normal type by the turns end
A case study for this idea of yours: Flygon On paper, Vibrava and Flygon wouldn't benefit since their only Ability is Levitate. Trapinch on the other hand has 3 abilities: Hyper Cutter, Arena Trap and (Hidden) Sheer Force. Reason for the loss of this ability seems to be cause both Vibrava and Flygon are clearly capable of flight but are not Flying-types, so taking this idea into account, should Vibrava/Flygon be allowed to gain other abilities beside Levitate? My suggestions would be this: Trapinch = Stays as it is Vibrava = Arena Trap and Soundproof (on top of Levitate) Flygon = Hyper Cutter and Sand Stream (on top of Levitate)
ludicolo would be pretty good. it has own temp, making it immune to confusion (and intimidate, but its a special tank, so that doesnt matter) it also has rain dish, healing it by 1/16th every turn rain is active. finally, ludicolo has swift swim, doubling its suprisingly high speed stat up to 400~ just get a pokemon like peliper with drizzle, summoning rain on switch in. peliper also has rain dish to heal it every turn, as well as being immune to accuracy lowering moves, thanks to keen eye
Well, one of Durant's abilities is Truant, so... it wouldn't be great for it. Hell, even Hustle is dangerous. You'd basically end up with an ant that doesn't move half the time, misses half the time it does get to attack, and... Well, OK, Swarm and Hustle could be pretty nice if you can deal with the accuracy, but I still feel like this mon would get worse.
Some other Pokemon I think would be good or at least interesting are: Reuniclus with Magic Guard + Regenerator Breloom with Technician + Poison Heal Mienshao with Reckless + Regenerator Baxcalibur with Thermal Exchange + Ice Body Hisuian Arcanine with Intimidate + Flash Fire + Rock Head Porygon2 with Trace + Download + Analytic Rillaboom with Overgrow + Grassy Surge Serperior with Overgrow + Contrary Venusaur with Overgrow + Chlorophyll Hisuian Samurott with Torrent + Sharpness Toxapex with Merciless + Regenerator Glimmora with Toxic Debris + Corrosion Sneasler with Unburden + Poison Touch Alolan Ninetales with Snow Cloak + Snow Warning Farigiraf with Cud Chew + Armor Tail + Sap Sipper Galarian Slowbro with Quick Draw + Regenerator Staraptor with Intimidate + Reckless
Remember that Prankster only works for Status Moves... Therefore if Sabeleye had both Prankster and Stall, it's status moves will have +1 Priority and Attacking moves (like Payback) could have -1 Priority, instead.... If it got access to more moves like payback, revenge, Gyro Ball or Avalanche that got a boost if moved last or the moves that got stronger lower HP the user has (Like Flail) - Paired with Focus Sash, then it will be a force to be reckoned with, honestly... The possibilities are endless.... Simple, Unaware, Klutz Swoobat can hold a Lagging Tail and use Acrobatics as 120 Base Power move and then use Fling/Trick to make the opponent slower as well or reduce the power of their Acrobatics if they are not holding an item...
definitely agree, along with small stat boosts, it's the simplest, least disrupting way of making weak and/or forgotten Pokemon more relevant. Torkoal and Pelipper being the best examples.
I've thought about this concept before. I like the idea of reworking abilities ao that all Pokémon have two abilities at once, where one is their primary mandatory ability and another is optional and typically weaker. So Pokémon like Rotom and Flygon have both levitate and something else at once
On the less broken side, I feel like all Legendaries should have Pressure + some other ability. Just, by default. Preasure is thematic but so nothing that they should just passively have it
Dragonite is actually not a bad contender since it has Inner Focus and it’s HA is Mutliscale which means mons like Weavile can’t flinch it with Fake Out and since it has Inner Focus and can Freely Set Up with Dragon Dance and don’t think about trying to intimidate it too because Inner Focus also blocks intimidate it’s not overpowered like Clod but it’s still a good choice
Hey bro you do know this already exsist? Idk if you play PokemonShowdown, but they have a catagory where pokemon get all their abilities... i thinks its called Every Ability lol. Theres also game modes where pokemons held item is a move it can learn, and all other attacking moves get the secondary effects of the move in the item slot For example: Item Tera Blast. Put on Roaring Moon. Now when you Terastilize all your moves take on your Tera Type and become Physical. So Draco Meteor Roaring Moon with Tera change now has a Physical Draco Meteor that matches the Tera type meaning it doesnt get weaker because of the Sp.Def drop. Assurance in Item slot on Dragupult. Use Dragon Darts, Assurance doubles power if your opponent took damage this turn. First Dart does normal damage but the 2nd Dart does 2x damage because of Assurance. If you havent been on PokemonShowdown you should its way better for Meta playing and testing teams
Nice video. You're right, Excadrill would be a monster with all three Abilities combined. Funnily enough, this reminded me of Clay's Excadrill in the infamously bad BW anime - it didn't seem to have any Ability at all in Clay's battle against Ash. Ash's Roggenrola used Sandstorm (for some reason) and all it did to Excadrill was surprise it, so it obviously didn't have Sand Force or Sand Rush. BUT! Later in the same battle, Excadrill used Horn Drill against Roggenrola, and because it failed to KO Roggenrola thanks to Sturdy, it proves that Excadrill didn't have Mold Breaker either. In fact, all that Horn Drill accomplished was triggering Roggenrola's evolution (ugh) and then Boldore quickly beat Excadrill despite Excadrill previously landing like eight super-effective Drill Runs on Roggenrola. That battle was trash.
Sableye having both abilities just means it moves last in the +1 priority bracket, it's usually not gonna matter much because other pokemon withe priority usually outspeed it already and using a prankster pokemon against sableye wouldn't work because it's Dark Type
Pokemon having moxie and intimidate becomme way better. Salamance, Krokodile, Gyarados. Even Heracross if we count mega abilities too would be pretty OP
Stall Sableye wouldn't really change anything. Stall makes you move last in your priority bracket, it doesn't affect the priority of moves. So your Prankster-boosted status moves would still have +1 priority, they just wouldn't go before other +1 priority moves... which given Sableye's very low base speed, is basically just something like Aqua Jet from Caracosta.
some pokes i guess would benefit a lot G-Weezing Porygon Z Azumarill Rusaring (its a shame Lune dosen have quick feet...) Pelliper Breloom (3 not related abilities, but all amazing) Haryiama (same as breloom) Bronzong Reuniclus Amoonguss Grass and Fire Ogerpon
Doubling the base stat isn’t the same as getting +2 to speed. Excadrill wouldn’t just go from 88 speed to 176. Just like Azumarill doesn’t go from base 50 attack to base 100 with huge power. It’s a significantly greater base stat boost.
greninja wouldn't be able to have battle bond with torrent and protean, actually. greninja with battle bond is considered a separate form from normal greninja, and that form can only get battle bond as an ability.
0:54 no it would not have the base speed of 176 it'd have the base speed of 194 if both pokemon are uninvested (no EVs neutral nature) and would have the base speed of 225.3 if they were fully invested (max speed boosting nature) Boosts do not double your base speed stat, they double your actual speed stat, therefore it'd be even faster don't believe me? look it up on pokemon damage calculator, if you alter speeds you'll see I'm right. 8:20 also Stall doesn't work like that, Stall is basically the item Lagging Tail, it moves last in the moves priority BRACKET, which is to say, if it used a priority move and opponent used a non-prio move, Sableye would still move first (example being it clicking Recover and opposing Shuckle clicking Sticky Web, Sableye would move first, but if Sableye used Foul Play and the opposing Shuckle used Sticky Web, then would Sableye move last.) I'm not defending Stall it's a horrible ability, but the general community doesn't understand how priority works in pokemon. Same deal with Darmanitan as it is with Excadrill, Gorrila Tactics and Choice Scarf wouldn't buff their base stat, which would put Darmanitan-Zen with Gorrila Tactics effectively at 265 base power mon (this is going on approximation because the highest a mon's stat could be is only 255) if uninvested, and around 290 fully invested Mons that you're overlooking because they're usually unimpressive are: Raticate (Guts+Hustle meaning a 2.25 boost to all physical moves), Alolan Persian (Technician, Rattled and Fur Coat are all insane abilities), Alolan Golem (it already wants to run both Sturdy and Galvanize + Steel type countering with Magnet Pull would make it a massive threat)... There's a bunch more but I don't feel like going through the entire dex I'll finish it with: Alolan Muk and Passimian being beyond cursed in this because POA and Receiver would only change themselves therefore, Poison Touch, Gluttony and 3 new abilities from a fallen comrade (someone like aformentioned AloPersian, would make this Assault Vest abuser beyond disgusting and could allow it to run Poison Fang for the 50% for badly poison and 30% for regular poison on 1 move Passimian on the other hand could combo really well with Epathra's Opportunist and Speed Boost alongside its own Defiant. However the single best pokemon in this format would undoubtedly be Weezing and its line. It'd probably have to go to Ubers tier with these rules, because the 4 of them (2 Koffing and 2 Weezing) just say "no", maybe even AG.
So basically the whole bibarel vs octillery becomes just pick bubarel I meam with only plus 6 maximum A plus 4 minus 2 mon would max every stat bar one out in between 10 and 6 turns
What are some other really good or bad Pokemon you can think of under this system? Let me know!!
alright, back to playing Spider-Man now lol
Durant gets screwed over thanks to Truant.
Little cup trubbish? Not only can it sticky hold a berry juice now, it also gets a 10% flinch chance and aftermath. Solid abilities all around.
Little cup Varoom would be cursed with the hidden ability Slow Start. Yes, Varoom gets Slow Start.
Azumarill would have a lot more options now with the combo of huge power, sap sipper, and thick fat. That would make it the bane of grass types and a good switch in
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Between truant and hustle, seeinc a Durant hit an actual move would be a memorable rarity. Imagine whitnessing it hit a Stone Edge. Only happens once in a blue moon
it can use entrainment to lay down its abiltiy to other
@@prateek1.9if it means that it can lay both that's an instant knockout that pokemon that got put into the roulette is ruined.
Of course you first have to hit it yourself but i digress.
@@prateek1.9assuming it works
@@Nitosa Hustle only applies to physical moves, not Entrainment or any special moves
Focus blast
Azumarill would be fun. It would keep huge power but would now be immune to grass instead of weak to it and also double resist fire and ice
Gen 4-5 Bronzong would have no weaknesses too
Breloom wouldn't be OP but at least it wouldn't have to pick between poison heal and technician anymore
Would Bronzong not be weak to dark types?
@@kubabakomnene That change occured in gen 6 where steel lost the resistance to ghost and dark. In gens 4-5, Bronzong would have no weaknesses. Gen 6 and on, it has those two weaknesses to look out for.
Wait... Why would anyone run Poison Heal on Breloom? It has notoriously bad stats except for the weirdly high attack.
It's not a stall or a tank, it hits hard and fast with priority.
Are you sure you're not thinking of Effect Spore?
@@ashblossomandjoyoussprung.9917 never underestimate the power of passive healing as it means that passive damage like sandstorm and spikes is somewhat nullified making it more difficult to revenge kill. Also poison heal requires means breloom is poisoned which means it can't be burnt, a very good trait for a physical attacker.
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Makes you immune to status and also grands you passive healing.
Breloom is a physical sweeper which means that a burn from will-o-wisp/scald etc can render it basically useless by dropping its attack by 50% from 372 (adamant) down to 186. You're also immune to other status conditions like paralysis, freeze and sleep.
Besides Breloom's speed, is really bad so unless you're using priority you're getting outsped by like 95% of other sweeper mons.
The most common poison heal breloom set is; Spore, Substitute, Leech Seed, Focus Punch.
Poison heal allows you a free switch -in on a toxic for example and if you're already poisoned from toxic orb to any other status move. You can force switch outs with spore and leech seed afterwards, and set-up with sub or deal a lot of damage with a F.Punch. It is a set that heavily relies on prediction but it's as good as the technician set.
For those wondering how it would shake up the Comeptitive scene, it already has! Pokémon Showdown (an online battle simulator run by the community) occasionally features Pokébilities as an "Other Metagame of the Month" and illustrates this exact concept perfectly. It's actualy really fun and rewards a lot of creativity, while also banning overly broken stuff. Highly recommend it
It's called pokebilities, you can play it with friends
And you guys can play gen 7 random pokebilities
You dont even need to make a team just click battle and u will have 6 random mons vs real people
Y'know, a Stadium like game that can work with Home & similar apps (complete with minigames & cross connectivity to core games) could give some real competition to Pokémon Showdown, especially if also able to connect to other side games
There are some hack roms too , like Elite Redux and Emerald Exceeded , that add something similar , innates . Not exactly the same abilities but 4 of some abilities related to the mon. I recomend.
How is Reuniclus in that meta ?
I'm pretty sure Sableye doesn't actually work like you said, Prankster gives it additional priority but Stall makes it move last within its priority bracket. So it still gets the priority from prankster but if the opponent uses another priority move it would automatically go before Sableye. Still a downgrade but not as bad as you described it
If another mon is using a priority move vs sabeleye its going first regardless of stall or not sabeleye is slow as balls
...but that's only for status moves. If you try to run anything else on this mon that isn't fake out or shadow sneak you're wasting your move slot
@@squirtleislife1312Bruh forgot about Prankster lmao.
@@Dr._is_sleepy I meant to say status moves oof
I'll edit it
@@squirtleislife1312 sableye has base 50 speed hes already getting outsped if not using priority
Most weather setters are gonna be stronger because they usually have an ability that boosts them in the weather they set. Getting both is scary.
Alolan ninetales gets to set snow and dodges.
Pelipper has rain dish (and keen eye).
Hippowdon hits harder in sand.
Vanille is healing in snow, and gets weak armor to be a pseudo slush rush if you play it right.
Basically every weather team but Sun is gonna be strong.
Even Sun gets insanelly good options
@antoinepolnareff8970 I love sun, as a fire specialist. But giving all abilities to sun setters gives you nothing synergistic. Immunity to fire on Ninetales. Torkoal's really poor stats (besides defense) can't be lowered. Groudon only has drought. Mega-Zard Y only has drought.
Hippowdon on the other hand, gets sand force, so it shows up, boosts sp. def., and gets an atk boost besides. Gigalith gets both those *and* sturdy. T-tar just makes opponents not eat berries.
Alolan ninetales gets evasion boost as well as def boost with snow warning/snow cloak. Vanilluxe gets Ice Body, healing it in snow. Abomasnow gets soundproof, which isn't fully synergistic, but makes it immune to Bug Buzz and torch song, which would have super effective against it.
Sun gets 0 mons with synergy. Sand gets 2. Ice gets 2 (and a sound immunity). Even rain gets Pelipper's rain dish synergy. Sun gets nothing.
@@dresdenlancer9012 Man, you are really only seeing onto a few fire types and not all Pokemon that benefits from the Sun and his other abilities
@antoinepolnareff8970 because my comment was about the weather setters. Not about pokemon that abuse the weather. There's something like 40 chlorophyll mons. Some get leaf guard and some get harvest.
But that is gaining use *under* sun. They are not *setting* the sun. Meaning you set sun with a mon with no additional benefits. Then have to swap into something that can utilize the weather better than the one who set it. Sand, Rain, and Snow don't have that problem. Their weather setters get to abuse the weather they set up. So there are *six* mons abusing weather instead of 5 for sun.
And all protosynthesis mons only get photosynthesis, so they aren't gaining additional benefit. Orichalcum Pulse is basically 2 abilities in one (proto and drought), and it isn't getting additional boosts either.
Sand stream + Sand Force is absolutely more beneficial than leaf guard+chlorophyll. And stacking guaranteed harvest with solar power and chlorophyll is not going to make tropius good. It's still going to be leech seed/sub stalling as it sets up a solar power air slash that still won't kill anything that isn't weak to flying. And once sun wears off, it isn't strong enough to one shot things that *are* weak to flying.
@@antoinepolnareff8970 Well, most of the abilities that benefit from sun are from grass types, which is bad becasue sun also boost fire type moves so
The other ability that benefits from sun is solar power, and half of the mons that have it are also grass types, the other half are fire and then the heliolisk line, which assuming it also has its other abilities, will lose twice as much hp for just the same boost
Can we talk about Yanmega, who's always been a case of wanting both abilities? Now he both gets a free speed boost after every turn, and can hit you for full damage through your resistances. You can also slap on throat spray, so he's getting a nasty plot boost after the first bug buzz. I guess he also gets frisk, so that's something.
Annihilape is already busted, but in this setup he would be immune to sleep, flinching and would still get +2 to attack whenever he gets hit by defog. He would also have items that would make him harder to deal with. with Punch Glove making contact based abilities and Rocky Helmet useless, Covert Cloak to deal with the nasty number of 30% plus status moves running around and good old Lum Berry for status effect he would still be vulnerable to. No overlap, but with a signature move that can hit for 350 Base, he really doesn't need any.
I think the Mystery Dungeon games did this for a while.
Personally, I'd quite like to see what shenanigans Venomoth could get up to. With Shield Dust to prevent stuff like Nuzzle from paralyzing, Tinted Lens to lower the impact of type-resistant walls, and Wonder Skin to make status moves more unreliable against it, it could pretty easily get set up and go to town with Quiver Dance
That sounds awful to fight.
@@morphstarchangeling8024 I mean, Venomoth still has plenty of flaws -- just makes it so it's harder to stop it dead in its tracks with paralysis or sleep
If they made it so Pokemon could use all of their abilities like Reuniclus with Overcoat, Magic Guard and Regenerator, Bronzong with Levitate, Heatproof and Heavy Metal and Scizor with Swarm, Technician and Light Metal just as a few examples, you'd have an unstoppable team!
We could also talk about Sigilyph. His other abilities are completely overshadowed by Magic Guard, which together with Cosmic Power and Stored Power makes him unkillable and powerful at the same time. His other abilities actually complement that set super well: Wonder Skin makes all status moves 50% accurate, meaning even methods to prevent it from setting up like Taunt are risky. His other ability, Tinted Lens, is also perfect since he tends to only run Stored Power, so Tinted Lens pretty much makes this one attack hit hard on anything that isn't Dark type.
Dragapult and Baxcalibur with all of their abilites would also be complete menaces. Aurora Veil Bax would be nigh unkillable and Dragapult with Clear Body, Infiltrator and Cursed Body would just be an entire ban worthy issue with it's well known Competetive prowess.
I think bronzing would become an absolute wall with this format. Removing two weaknesses, gaining an immunity and being weak to only dark and ghost types is very strong. And it has heavy metal for stronger heavy slam
In gens 4-5 it would have ZERO weaknesses cause Steel still resisted Dark and Ghost
Interesting gimmick. It could even work if it would be improved. There could be a super special item that would allow the use one normal ability and a hidden ability. When a Pokemon has a hidden ability, it could use the first ability (or randomly between the first and second).
A possible disadvantage of this item would be that Pokemon loses PP faster.
Regarding starters, Serperior's Leaf storm with Overgrow and enough Contraty boosts and Emboar's flare blitz with Blaze and Reckless would be quite powerful too. Primarina's Hyper Voice with Torrent and Liquid Voice is another that comes to mind
Liquid Voice does add damage so surf, pump, and aria would all be syrongery
Blaze Iron Fist Fire Punch from Infernape
Overgrow Grass Surge Grass Glide from Rillaboom
They did have multiple abilities in Mystery Dungeon. This led to really funny things like contradictory abilities on Lucario being unable to be flinched (Inner Focus) but also getting speed from being flinched (Steadfast). Apparently the only way for it to be getting that speed boost is to be made cross-eyed by a particular seed.
Kingambit would be pretty nuts tbh. Surpreme overlord combined with defiant can be fun. With pressure preventing stall.
Also, normal ursaring would be insane too with quick feet and guts. It basically turns ursaring into a speedy glass cannon.
Speaking of facade users, raticate would also rise in usage, hustle and guts is pretty insane. Albeit a bit unreliable, but it practically doubling its attack is still good.
Lastly, swellow would be pretty fun to use as well. Guts facade that hits ghost types due to scrappy surprisingly pops off.
Other pokemon with good combos but would be sunflora. Under the sun, it can surprisingly be usuable with solar power and chlorophyll. It does have a pretty respectable base 105 special. Albeit you are forced to invest in max speed to hit anything reliably. Even then, it makes sunflora into a glass cannon.
Another pokemon with that combo would be tropius. However, even with that boost, the special and speed stat is still kinda bad.
Edit: A pokemon that would be negatively affected would definately be golduck. Imagine shutting off your own swift swim, couldnt be me
You can give Ursaring 0 bulk invesment yet it would still be INCREDIBLY tanky
The "gimmick" (if you can even call it a gimmick, since I believe this should be a permanent change) that I'm shocked that we haven't seen yet is dual-type Moves. Without even inventing new Moves, there are an absolutely incredible number of Moves whose names and descriptions already imply that they should have two types.
Thunder Punch could be Electric/Fighting.
Fire Fang could be Fire/Dark.
Scald could be Water/Fire.
Muddy Water could be Water/Ground.
And the list goes on and on.
All 7 hawlucha users are crying right now
Funny, but why would they be crying? With dual-type Moves, Flying Press would actually be fully both Fighting-type and Flying-type, meaning Hawlucha would get STAB twice when using it, a significant power boost compared to how it works right now. @@loadingname4947
Zangoose has Immunity and Toxic Boost, which raises its Attack if it's poisoned. But because Immunity outright prevents poisoning, Toxic Boost would be completely useless
Shout-out to any pokémon with Trace being able to copy ALL their abilities in those situations. Best case scenario would be a Porygon2 copying Clefable, adding the defensive power of Unaware and Magic Guard to it's already overkill defense stats, and patching up it's special attack with Download and Analytic. If you have an idea how to out that thing, I'll love to hear it.
Skill swap truant onto it
Or skill swap normalise on it, when you have a ghost type, plus a Pokémon with shadow tag skill swap shadow tag onto the ghost type. (double battles)
I mean that tactic that WolfeVGC pulled once, for the second one.
The second one needs a little too much setup for this though.
There is actually a rom hack called Pokemon Emerald Elite Redux that allows Pokemon to have 4 ABILITIES and THEY CAN HAVE ANY ABILITIES (and there are fan-made abilities)
Honestly Kekleon changing type constantly could be interesting. Not enough to make it broken, but interesting enough that I could see it really messing up someone if this was prenerf Protein where they changed types with every move they used. Keckleon going from a normal type to a dark type when using sucker punch, the resisting the oncoming attack just to become that type, only to change their type again into something completely different could be a super annoying pokemon to fight with how you'd have to predict what the opponent wants to use.
I think the main problem is that Color Change wouldn't actually have a benefit most of the time with Pre-nerf Protein.
If Kekleon goes second, then the opponent hits him, he changes type from Color Change, and then instantly changes type again from Protean when he attacks, resulting in the Color Change switch not doing anything.
If Kekleon goes first, then he changes from Protean, gets hit and changes from Color Change, but then he'd most likely go first again and change from Protean before the opponent even has a chance to hit his Color Change'd typing.
Priority can shake this pattern up, like Sucker Punch you mentioned, but it would probably have to be your own priority, since I'd imagine a slow opponent hitting you with a regular move wouldn't then use a priority move of their own if they just made you resistant to it, and alternatively they might've hit you with their non-priority move specifically to REMOVE your resistance to their priority move.
Even though it would be rather difficult to use Color Change to gain a resistance to actual enemy attacks in this scenario, there are a few niche situations I could see this helping. If Kekleon goes first and gets hit by an attack to end the turn with a Color Change'd type, then switches out, the Color Change typing might help provide a resistance or immunity when switching back in (assuming Color Change persists between switches?) Or maybe if the opponent had Sandstorm up and he Color Change'd to Rock, Ground, or Steel, so at the end of the turn he wouldn't take environmental damage, or some other similar type-specific end-of-turn effect.
I think the biggest issue here is the fact that first the opponent needs to hit you with a move that CAN give you a situationally beneficial end-of-turn typing, and then you still need to get lucky for Color Change to choose the CORRECT typing, since there will pretty much always be multiple types it can choose to give you after getting hit. In the previously noted Sandstorm niche moment, even if the opponent hits you with a Normal move that could Color Change you to Rock or Steel, it could still change you to Ghost instead.
I shudder to think about how much Maushold would have popped off in early S/V VGC regulations with both Technician and Friend Guard. Cheek Pouch doesn't hurt either, but IDK if it would run a berry.
Sableye's stall works like lagging tail, it'd move last in its priority bracket. So... it'd still have +1 priority, but move last out of all mons using +1 priority moves
Also Durant would suck in this format, since it has Truant as it's hidden ability
Sableye actually wouldn't be that bad! Stall makes the pokemon move last in their priority bracket, but Prankster increases their priority by 1. So Sableye wouldn't be outsped by attacks with 0 priority.
I would love to see a pokemon game where you have two slots for abilities, they rework everyone's ability lists into their level up moveset and you can pick 2 abilities to have on your pokemon.
Conkeldurr is another mon that would be incredibly busted in this format. It has Guts, Iron Fist and Sheer Force: all three abilities that directly increases its power.
This was the idea back in PMD: Explorers, which Bronzong had 0 weaknesses at the time due to its abilities.
Stall makes you move last in your priority bracket. If sableye used his +1 prankster moves then he would be the last +1 to go
Aggron has two great ones in Rick Head and Sturdy, to at least mitigate those two 4x weaknesses. Haxorus would also be pretty good, with Mold Breaker, Unnerve, and Rivalry
Kommo-o Would be immune to sound, bullet/bomb/ and powder moves. Not broken or anything, but you do have plenty of free switch-in opportunities
One that comes to my mind is protean Meowscrada plus overgrow which could be deadly
Stall does the same as lagging tail, making you move last in your priority bracket. So as long as no other pokemon uses a priority move you’ll still go first
Now i would like to point a finger at reuniclus.
Magic guard, overcoat, and regenerator. It would become borderline immortal.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe stall makes you move last within your priority bracket, so all status moves have +1 priority so they still move first but if another Pokémon of identical speed also had prankster its status moves would always move before sableye
Stall makes Sableye move last within its priority bracket, effectively making its Speed stat 0 (or 999+ in Trick Room)
So Prankster's +1 Priority would still have it move first, unless the opponent uses a Priority move, in which case it'll always move last.
I've been thinking the next Gimmick could be ability related for a while. Megas are stat based (minus HP), Z moves are... move based, Dynamax is HP and move based (with the moves all having side effects like sun, rain, hail, ect.), and Tera is type based (with one move). That leaves ability.
Smogon and PS has had this meta for years. It’s called pokebilities. It comes up in the OMOTM every once and awhile.
There is a rom hack called elite redux that does a concept similar to this with pokemon having four abilities, three innates and the main ability that can be swapped out for one to three more abilities
there's a cool rom hack called elite redux where all pokemon have 4 abilities and they've implemented a couple of new ones it's definitely worth a shot
Basculegion automatically getting sent to Ubers. Swift Swim + Adaptability Wave Crash in the rain is ridiculous. Assuming you’d be able to use an item, choice band makes this damage even crazier. As the cherry on top, you’d be unable to use water absorb or storm drain Pokemon because Basculegion also has Mold Breaker.
With Sableye, Prankster would play into effect. Stall makes it so it moves last in its priority bracket, so it’ll only come into effect if another Pokémon using a move with +1 priority is on the field.
kecleon would high key be a menace becuz you would have to pay so much attention to detail 1 slip and he could throw a random STAB dragon move outta no where and be normal type by the turns end
Scrafty also has that intimidate moxie alone with shed skin so it can absorb status while setting up
I know Lucario has one ability that increases its speed when it flinches and another ability that prevents flinching.
Heracross with swarm + guts + moxie would be so good
lmao you could also skill link from its mega
A case study for this idea of yours: Flygon
On paper, Vibrava and Flygon wouldn't benefit since their only Ability is Levitate. Trapinch on the other hand has 3 abilities: Hyper Cutter, Arena Trap and (Hidden) Sheer Force.
Reason for the loss of this ability seems to be cause both Vibrava and Flygon are clearly capable of flight but are not Flying-types, so taking this idea into account, should Vibrava/Flygon be allowed to gain other abilities beside Levitate?
My suggestions would be this:
Trapinch = Stays as it is
Vibrava = Arena Trap and Soundproof (on top of Levitate)
Flygon = Hyper Cutter and Sand Stream (on top of Levitate)
That's just basically Smogon's Pokebilities metagame, a meta where all Pokemon has all their abilities at once
Clefable would be insane, compressing so much in one team slot. Conk in tr would be quite a threat.
ludicolo would be pretty good. it has own temp, making it immune to confusion (and intimidate, but its a special tank, so that doesnt matter) it also has rain dish, healing it by 1/16th every turn rain is active. finally, ludicolo has swift swim, doubling its suprisingly high speed stat up to 400~ just get a pokemon like peliper with drizzle, summoning rain on switch in. peliper also has rain dish to heal it every turn, as well as being immune to accuracy lowering moves, thanks to keen eye
Well, one of Durant's abilities is Truant, so... it wouldn't be great for it. Hell, even Hustle is dangerous. You'd basically end up with an ant that doesn't move half the time, misses half the time it does get to attack, and... Well, OK, Swarm and Hustle could be pretty nice if you can deal with the accuracy, but I still feel like this mon would get worse.
lmaooo
a pokemon that Doesn't moves half of the time
and misses moves half of the time?
say no more,people will break their devices while using durant
You forgot Quagsire. It also has Water Absorb and Unaware, but also has Damp which will negate any detonation attack and Aftermath.
Porygon-Z Download+Adaptability+Analytic+135 Special Attack=Wallbreaker of legendary proportions.
Well, it must be said that if so, Excadrill will become the ultimate sweeper in sandstorms
Some other Pokemon I think would be good or at least interesting are:
Reuniclus with Magic Guard + Regenerator
Breloom with Technician + Poison Heal
Mienshao with Reckless + Regenerator
Baxcalibur with Thermal Exchange + Ice Body
Hisuian Arcanine with Intimidate + Flash Fire + Rock Head
Porygon2 with Trace + Download + Analytic
Rillaboom with Overgrow + Grassy Surge
Serperior with Overgrow + Contrary
Venusaur with Overgrow + Chlorophyll
Hisuian Samurott with Torrent + Sharpness
Toxapex with Merciless + Regenerator
Glimmora with Toxic Debris + Corrosion
Sneasler with Unburden + Poison Touch
Alolan Ninetales with Snow Cloak + Snow Warning
Farigiraf with Cud Chew + Armor Tail + Sap Sipper
Galarian Slowbro with Quick Draw + Regenerator
Staraptor with Intimidate + Reckless
Remember that Prankster only works for Status Moves... Therefore if Sabeleye had both Prankster and Stall, it's status moves will have +1 Priority and Attacking moves (like Payback) could have -1 Priority, instead.... If it got access to more moves like payback, revenge, Gyro Ball or Avalanche that got a boost if moved last or the moves that got stronger lower HP the user has (Like Flail) - Paired with Focus Sash, then it will be a force to be reckoned with, honestly... The possibilities are endless....
Simple, Unaware, Klutz Swoobat can hold a Lagging Tail and use Acrobatics as 120 Base Power move and then use Fling/Trick to make the opponent slower as well or reduce the power of their Acrobatics if they are not holding an item...
I really think abilities should be changed a lot more often between generations.
definitely agree, along with small stat boosts, it's the simplest, least disrupting way of making weak and/or forgotten Pokemon more relevant. Torkoal and Pelipper being the best examples.
Technically this has been done in the old Mystery Dungeon games (I know for sure it was in the DS ones, not sure about the others).
6:36 It does. But you have to Mirror Herb it.
I've thought about this concept before. I like the idea of reworking abilities ao that all Pokémon have two abilities at once, where one is their primary mandatory ability and another is optional and typically weaker. So Pokémon like Rotom and Flygon have both levitate and something else at once
**Pokemon Elite Redux be like**
On the less broken side, I feel like all Legendaries should have Pressure + some other ability. Just, by default. Preasure is thematic but so nothing that they should just passively have it
Dragonite is actually not a bad contender since it has Inner Focus and it’s HA is Mutliscale which means mons like Weavile can’t flinch it with Fake Out and since it has Inner Focus and can Freely Set Up with Dragon Dance and don’t think about trying to intimidate it too because Inner Focus also blocks intimidate it’s not overpowered like Clod but it’s still a good choice
A porygon2 with download plus adaptability plus analytic. Tri attack 90bp x 1.5 x 1.5 x 1.5 + stab
Hey bro you do know this already exsist?
Idk if you play PokemonShowdown, but they have a catagory where pokemon get all their abilities... i thinks its called Every Ability lol.
Theres also game modes where pokemons held item is a move it can learn, and all other attacking moves get the secondary effects of the move in the item slot
For example: Item Tera Blast. Put on Roaring Moon. Now when you Terastilize all your moves take on your Tera Type and become Physical. So Draco Meteor Roaring Moon with Tera change now has a Physical Draco Meteor that matches the Tera type meaning it doesnt get weaker because of the Sp.Def drop.
Assurance in Item slot on Dragupult. Use Dragon Darts, Assurance doubles power if your opponent took damage this turn. First Dart does normal damage but the 2nd Dart does 2x damage because of Assurance.
If you havent been on PokemonShowdown you should its way better for Meta playing and testing teams
Nice video. You're right, Excadrill would be a monster with all three Abilities combined.
Funnily enough, this reminded me of Clay's Excadrill in the infamously bad BW anime - it didn't seem to have any Ability at all in Clay's battle against Ash. Ash's Roggenrola used Sandstorm (for some reason) and all it did to Excadrill was surprise it, so it obviously didn't have Sand Force or Sand Rush. BUT! Later in the same battle, Excadrill used Horn Drill against Roggenrola, and because it failed to KO Roggenrola thanks to Sturdy, it proves that Excadrill didn't have Mold Breaker either. In fact, all that Horn Drill accomplished was triggering Roggenrola's evolution (ugh) and then Boldore quickly beat Excadrill despite Excadrill previously landing like eight super-effective Drill Runs on Roggenrola.
That battle was trash.
This actually sorta exists. Pokemon showdown has a metagame called Pokebilities which has this exact concept.
Sableye having both abilities just means it moves last in the +1 priority bracket, it's usually not gonna matter much because other pokemon withe priority usually outspeed it already and using a prankster pokemon against sableye wouldn't work because it's Dark Type
RIP Durant, being forced to use Truant
Conkeldurr would be a monster with guts , iron fist , and sheer force
Pokemon having moxie and intimidate becomme way better. Salamance, Krokodile, Gyarados. Even Heracross if we count mega abilities too would be pretty OP
Stall Sableye wouldn't really change anything. Stall makes you move last in your priority bracket, it doesn't affect the priority of moves. So your Prankster-boosted status moves would still have +1 priority, they just wouldn't go before other +1 priority moves... which given Sableye's very low base speed, is basically just something like Aqua Jet from Caracosta.
Pokemon elite redux actually has some of these like the excadrill
It's a pokemon emerald rom hack
some pokes i guess would benefit a lot
G-Weezing
Porygon Z
Azumarill
Rusaring (its a shame Lune dosen have quick feet...)
Pelliper
Breloom (3 not related abilities, but all amazing)
Haryiama (same as breloom)
Bronzong
Reuniclus
Amoonguss
Grass and Fire Ogerpon
GRENINJAAAA 🙌🏽
Drifblim would be terrifying with fling and a flame orb…
Doubling the base stat isn’t the same as getting +2 to speed. Excadrill wouldn’t just go from 88 speed to 176. Just like Azumarill doesn’t go from base 50 attack to base 100 with huge power. It’s a significantly greater base stat boost.
you forgot Krookodile's Anger Point, with RNG it hastens the sweep
greninja wouldn't be able to have battle bond with torrent and protean, actually.
greninja with battle bond is considered a separate form from normal greninja, and that form can only get battle bond as an ability.
0:54 no it would not have the base speed of 176 it'd have the base speed of 194 if both pokemon are uninvested (no EVs neutral nature) and would have the base speed of 225.3 if they were fully invested (max speed boosting nature)
Boosts do not double your base speed stat, they double your actual speed stat, therefore it'd be even faster
don't believe me? look it up on pokemon damage calculator, if you alter speeds you'll see I'm right.
8:20 also Stall doesn't work like that, Stall is basically the item Lagging Tail, it moves last in the moves priority BRACKET, which is to say, if it used a priority move and opponent used a non-prio move, Sableye would still move first (example being it clicking Recover and opposing Shuckle clicking Sticky Web, Sableye would move first, but if Sableye used Foul Play and the opposing Shuckle used Sticky Web, then would Sableye move last.)
I'm not defending Stall it's a horrible ability, but the general community doesn't understand how priority works in pokemon.
Same deal with Darmanitan as it is with Excadrill, Gorrila Tactics and Choice Scarf wouldn't buff their base stat, which would put Darmanitan-Zen with Gorrila Tactics effectively at 265 base power mon (this is going on approximation because the highest a mon's stat could be is only 255) if uninvested, and around 290 fully invested
Mons that you're overlooking because they're usually unimpressive are: Raticate (Guts+Hustle meaning a 2.25 boost to all physical moves), Alolan Persian (Technician, Rattled and Fur Coat are all insane abilities), Alolan Golem (it already wants to run both Sturdy and Galvanize + Steel type countering with Magnet Pull would make it a massive threat)... There's a bunch more but I don't feel like going through the entire dex
I'll finish it with: Alolan Muk and Passimian being beyond cursed in this because POA and Receiver would only change themselves therefore, Poison Touch, Gluttony and 3 new abilities from a fallen comrade (someone like aformentioned AloPersian, would make this Assault Vest abuser beyond disgusting and could allow it to run Poison Fang for the 50% for badly poison and 30% for regular poison on 1 move
Passimian on the other hand could combo really well with Epathra's Opportunist and Speed Boost alongside its own Defiant.
However the single best pokemon in this format would undoubtedly be Weezing and its line. It'd probably have to go to Ubers tier with these rules, because the 4 of them (2 Koffing and 2 Weezing) just say "no", maybe even AG.
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Calyrex may be the first to use both abilities but it’s just the fusion of Calyrex and Spectrier or Glastrier
Machamp with No guard and Guts, a burning Dynamic punch machamp
Mawile has shear force and intimidate and hyper cutter and if we add megas I’d gain huge power
They should make a pokemon game with all the abilitys from the show included.
What about Pokemon whose ability has changed between generations?
"What if Pokemon could have every ability?"
So... Pokemon PTU, then?
That sounds like a nightmare to balance... but it would be a pretty fun gimmick!
Galarian weezing, because why let others have fun.
Damn I never saw Dracovish's shiny until now and damn it's good
Klingklang would be busted. Plus minus and clear body. Automatic +2 to special attack and immunity to stature ops
Competitive would be hell
Scrafty gets Moxie and Intimidate too chief! As well as she’d skin for good measure.
So basically the whole bibarel vs octillery becomes just pick bubarel
I meam with only plus 6 maximum
A plus 4 minus 2 mon would max every stat bar one out in between 10 and 6 turns
conkeldurr would be real strong. guts, iron fist, sheer force
Charizard under sun would be scary
Hear me out, what about getting really smol?
Don’t give ash greninja no more abilities 😂
Zangoose would get nerfed. Toxic boost + immunity equals just immunity
Now I gotta google what water absorb does since you didn’t explain🙄
weezing would be amazing
There is literaly a meta game for it and basqeulin is the best pokemon