The reason Stephen is so popular is his philosophy not just the history. As well as his empathy with ordinary people like me. Good luck Stephen, God bless you and all your great supporters. 👍 Townsville Australia 🇦🇺 ♥️
Kotkin eats Ferguson for breakfast, lunch & dinner every day, 365. It's a pleasure to her him, his calm demeanor when poked by politically motivated rhetoric from his colleagues.
The experience of listening to actual academics (as opposed to the usual political hacks) debate on substantive issues is enlightening. I can't get enough of listening to Stephen Kotkin.
An hour with Mr Kotkin is just not long enough and for my two cents he's incalculably better than Mr Peterson. Can we have more of him please. He should be a regular member.
Kotkin was fair. He doesn’t hold back from pointing out an administration’s failures regardless of the party in power. Ferguson betrayed his partisan agenda, which is sad.
Niall is always consistent in his anti-Biden bias and his overlooking of Trump administration failures. It's rather strange for such an intelligent man
Kotkin is a very clear thinker and this sets him out from many of his fellows, including the others on the panel here. Partisan thinkers see things as they wish they were. He sees things as they are.
mr. hoover: kotkin is the person you should be interviewing. next time please leave ferguson off the panel. he added nothing of importance to the discussion.
Kotkin has some really good points. Sharp analysis and you can tell he has a greater depth and deductive thinking. He has thought about the logic and the facts in light of todays world players. Naill please let everyone else think; your just asking leading questions to support your already predetermined conclusions. Everyone respects Kotin because he explains his points of view with facts. He came with a legal page of receipts. Niall is comes off as a hawk with no receipts.
We’d all be far better off if the likes of Kotkin are listened too as apposed to these partisan wonks. Once I realized how partisan they were, I dropped my podcast subscription. Only watching this because of Kotkin.
From the first time you hear Kotkin, it’s clear that he knows what he’s talking about. Then when his name comes up in your youtube feed… you click immediately. Much like one’s confidence in Hanson or Sowell.
Usually Niall is my favorite Goodfellow, but in the early exchange with Kotkin, Niall acted like a garden variety partisan hack. Luckily he redeemed himself in the second half with his usual brilliance.
Kotkin just has a voice and cadence I like listening to. He also knows stuff about the other side of the world and when he talks I actually trust he knows what he is saying. Idk if i should trust him, but add that to your intel. Also, he did two great podcasts with lex fridman -- so good i think most of his viewers started from there
It is pretty solid evidence Ferguson doesn't know shame. He's slinging a narrative that will sell well with Americans who don't like Biden, a valuable market, now way is Ferguson going to let Kotkin, reason, the truth, or intellectual honesty get between him and that paycheck.
Here is a story with a moral: My aunt’s two kids were fighting. One was throwing rocks at the other. At this point he was not doing a lot of damage to his brother. My aunt scolded the rock throwing brother, telling him if he want to throw rocks, then throw them at targets and not people. She set up a target which he joyfully used for practice . The next time he got in a fight with his brother, his rock struck him directly in the face injuring him this time. The mother’s attempt at deterrence failed. What is the moral of the story? -. She did not deal with the negative antisocial passions of the rock throwing brother (jealousy, envy, hatred, revenge, etc.)
What America needs is a leader who has the credibility and the balls to stand up and say: "The whole world order that ultimately underpins the American way of life is under threat, and that America is prepared to do whatever it takes to defend it. That the longer America fails to stand up for it's core values of freedom and democracy, then the stronger the authoritarians will become, and the bigger the sacrifice needed to win the inevitable showdown will be".
Kotkin is Boss. Ferguson is too biased to make any dent in a debate between scholars, and he does not even have the famous British humour to save him, it's bitter and under the belt. Economic output both is and isn't the decisive factor in the impending WWIII. It's political will to defend free societies. IF these can stay united, the autocracies are blown out of the water. That's why they are seeking to create ideological allies in the US.
Plastic fold up chairs in the middle of an empty room. You could present better than that! I also wish that they had allowed Dr Kotkin to finish instead of interrupting. Dr Kotkin seems to always start giving context which then leads to a conclusion & we often didn't get to that conclusion. Not that the input of the others is not valued but to me it was frustrating to listen to. If they need extra time to enable Dr Kotkin to respond in his style they should make the podcast longer.
I quite dislike the idea of it but I realize I’m quite the fanboy of Mr. Kotkin. It is comparatively easy to criticize policy (student loan, e-vehicles, etc.) but this ranting without explanation loses points. I seem to understand better when Mr. Kotkin speaks. For that I thank him.
Interesting to see Kotkin with some intelligent opposition. He still comes over as the smartest though the others raised some pretty tough alternate takes .
19:31 Kothkin did call it back in the interview with Peter Robertson that Putin's plan B was to destroy Ukraine and make it a black hole of reconstruction cost for the EU.
A discussion of Kotkin and Mearsheimer would be timely and helpful. Who can connect them? Topic: Most likely outcomes of Ukraine/Gaza/Israel/Middle East short-term, by US 2024 election, and on Jan 1, 2026.
47:30 Stephen Kotkin certainly has clearer understanding of China than the other two on his both sides. He represents the thinking independent from China’s pretension and propaganda.
All 3 of them are fascinating! We do not know what we do not know concerning the future - but very very few Americans have any understanding that isolationism does not work and is dangerous. The office of the president needs to educate America yesterday! Follow up talk would be great.
Kotkin is insightful and thoughtful. I learn so much from him. The others are just a waste of time. One can only hope they are actually smarter than what comes off as simpleton comments
Stephen's response to Niall's J Peterson comment showed a lot of class
The reason Stephen is so popular is his philosophy not just the history. As well as his empathy with ordinary people like me.
Good luck Stephen, God bless you and all your great supporters. 👍
Townsville Australia 🇦🇺 ♥️
Stephen Kotkin........LEGEND!
He's a real gentleman
Niall Fergusson....bit embarasing
He talked for half the show and didn't say anything at all.
Stephen Kotkin is the most important person to listen to to understand the world today. Thank you!
Kotkin eats Ferguson for breakfast, lunch & dinner every day, 365. It's a pleasure to her him, his calm demeanor when poked by politically motivated rhetoric from his colleagues.
Kotkin is the best, “ I don’t read The NY Times “
One of many gems from Stephen!
The experience of listening to actual academics (as opposed to the usual political hacks) debate on substantive issues is enlightening. I can't get enough of listening to Stephen Kotkin.
God! I love Stephen Kotkin. He has knowledge, common sense and so much class!
Stephen Kotkin presents very clear thesis. That's the magnet of his speeches.
Once again, Stephen Kotkin shows himself to be the master of applying common sense to geopolitical analysis.
A great pleasure to listen to honnorable Stephen Kotkin
Mr Kotkin thinks on another level and it becomes so obvious that he sees 30 years ahead. We need to listen to him.
Niall should have let Stephen Kotkin to talk. Stephen's analysis is so profound , but hear constant interruptions from Ferguson was annoying
An hour with Mr Kotkin is just not long enough and for my two cents he's incalculably better than Mr Peterson. Can we have more of him please. He should be a regular member.
Kotkin!!!! I can listen to him all day long.
Stephen Kotkin is always a pleasure to listen to, especially in this company. Thanks for this discussion.
Always a pleasure to hear from Stephen
Kotkin was fair. He doesn’t hold back from pointing out an administration’s failures regardless of the party in power. Ferguson betrayed his partisan agenda, which is sad.
Niall Ferguson is so ideallogically driven that I can't take anything he says seriously.
Kotkin has a great way of presenting history, great speaker and story teller. And he happens to focus on a very interesting topic, totalitarianism.
Kotkin is such a bright light. He puts together such coherent arguments.
Kotkin isn't as partisan, or as right-leaning as the other Hoover fellows. His non-reaction to comparison with Peterson is also telling. Refreshing.
Niall was really rude this episode, constantly interjecting and making unnecessary remarks. Feel like there is jealousy there with Kotkin
A great discussion today, always a joy to listen to the insights of Prof. Steven Kotkin!
Thanks to Stephen Kotkin for holding Niall back from making it a party political broadcast.
Mr. Kotkin is an expert on power , it’s what he’s studied all his life . Listen to what he he has to say
Niall is always consistent in his anti-Biden bias and his overlooking of Trump administration failures. It's rather strange for such an intelligent man
Kotkin is a very clear thinker and this sets him out from many of his fellows, including the others on the panel here. Partisan thinkers see things as they wish they were. He sees things as they are.
Kotkin is the GOAT in his field
I get the sense that Kotkin likes to put Ferguson in his place…
This would be insufferable without Stephen Kotkin there to provide common sense.
Stephen Kotkin ❤
Stephen brings the picture into much better focus. He's the best oracle among the three.
Best guest, I could listen to a conversation like this for hours
I wonder how many administrations have tried to recruit Stephen. I hope he says yes one day.
Niall must be auditioning for a role in a future GOP administration since everything from him recently is politically biased.
mr. hoover: kotkin is the person you should be interviewing. next time please leave ferguson off the panel. he added nothing of importance to the discussion.
Thank you for bringing Stephen Kotkin again.
Dr Kotkin is the best hands down. Thank you for having him again.
Poor Stephen couldn’t even finish a sentence without being interrupted!
Kotkin has some really good points. Sharp analysis and you can tell he has a greater depth and deductive thinking. He has thought about the logic and the facts in light of todays world players. Naill please let everyone else think; your just asking leading questions to support your already predetermined conclusions. Everyone respects Kotin because he explains his points of view with facts. He came with a legal page of receipts. Niall is comes off as a hawk with no receipts.
Smart, entertaining, and consistently of high quality, what else could you ask for in a podcast?
We’d all be far better off if the likes of Kotkin are listened too as apposed to these partisan wonks. Once I realized how partisan they were, I dropped my podcast subscription. Only watching this because of Kotkin.
Ferguson's partisan sniping stands in sharp contrast to Kotkin's nonpartisan analysis. It makes Ferguson sound less credible and Kotkin more credible.
I wish this episode had been longer. Always a pleasure to listen to intelligent conversation.
From the first time you hear Kotkin, it’s clear that he knows what he’s talking about. Then when his name comes up in your youtube feed… you click immediately. Much like one’s confidence in Hanson or Sowell.
Usually Niall is my favorite Goodfellow, but in the early exchange with Kotkin, Niall acted like a garden variety partisan hack. Luckily he redeemed himself in the second half with his usual brilliance.
I appreciate how Dr. Kotkin handled biased and leading questions with patience, class, and competency👍
Kotkin just has a voice and cadence I like listening to. He also knows stuff about the other side of the world and when he talks I actually trust he knows what he is saying. Idk if i should trust him, but add that to your intel. Also, he did two great podcasts with lex fridman -- so good i think most of his viewers started from there
Thank you Mr. Kotkin. Your take is as close to level-minded and thought-out as anyone could hope for.
Can't wait to hear Stephen on Staline again ! Get volume 3 out !
We luv Kotkin! Brilliant man!
Always an absolute pleasure to watch Steven Kotkin. Great talk all round, very sobering...
Love these guys... and Kotkin as a guest is always a treat. Long live the JollyGoodFellows. 🙂
Love me some Stephen Kotkin analysis
Stephen Kotkin da legend
Niall was very unprofessional in this discussion
Love this collegial disagreement and conversation.
"Have you been to Mar-a-Lago?" 😅 Stephen bodied Niall
It is pretty solid evidence Ferguson doesn't know shame.
He's slinging a narrative that will sell well with Americans who don't like Biden, a valuable market, now way is Ferguson going to let Kotkin, reason, the truth, or intellectual honesty get between him and that paycheck.
That is a weak dig from a coward intellectual. Biden’s house is run by Chinese.
Here is a story with a moral: My aunt’s two kids were fighting. One was throwing rocks at the other. At this point he was not doing a lot of damage to his brother. My aunt scolded the rock throwing brother, telling him if he want to throw rocks, then throw them at targets and not people. She set up a target which he joyfully used for practice . The next time he got in a fight with his brother, his rock struck him directly in the face injuring him this time. The mother’s attempt at deterrence failed. What is the moral of the story? -. She did not deal with the negative antisocial passions of the rock throwing brother (jealousy, envy, hatred, revenge, etc.)
The views on the Kotkin videos are actually just me
Niall's ego wanted Kotkin on the back foot, right off the bat... taking pages right from Kissinger.
Kissinger, our most senior War Criminal.
Kotkin 1: Ferguson 0
It’s like listening to Joe Pesci giving commentary on the current situation.
What America needs is a leader who has the credibility and the balls to stand up and say:
"The whole world order that ultimately underpins the American way of life is under threat, and that America is prepared to do whatever it takes to defend it. That the longer America fails to stand up for it's core values of freedom and democracy, then the stronger the authoritarians will become, and the bigger the sacrifice needed to win the inevitable showdown will be".
Kotkin is Boss. Ferguson is too biased to make any dent in a debate between scholars, and he does not even have the famous British humour to save him, it's bitter and under the belt.
Economic output both is and isn't the decisive factor in the impending WWIII. It's political will to defend free societies. IF these can stay united, the autocracies are blown out of the water. That's why they are seeking to create ideological allies in the US.
Kotkin vs the Goodfellows.
Not even close to a fair fight.
Great to hear the thoughts and insights of all three of these gentlemen!
Kotkin is on another level
Plastic fold up chairs in the middle of an empty room. You could present better than that!
I also wish that they had allowed Dr Kotkin to finish instead of interrupting. Dr Kotkin seems to always start giving context which then leads to a conclusion & we often didn't get to that conclusion.
Not that the input of the others is not valued but to me it was frustrating to listen to. If they need extra time to enable Dr Kotkin to respond in his style they should make the podcast longer.
Kotkin brings intelligence, nuance, and fresh perspectives with his quick wit and love of humanity. ❤
The legend strikes again like a true rockstar
Mr Kotin's way of explanation and thinking influenced me a lot. Thank you master
It's so....cathartic to see Kotkin put Ferguson in his place.
I quite dislike the idea of it but I realize I’m quite the fanboy of Mr. Kotkin.
It is comparatively easy to criticize policy (student loan, e-vehicles, etc.) but this ranting without explanation loses points.
I seem to understand better when Mr. Kotkin speaks. For that I thank him.
Interesting to see Kotkin with some intelligent opposition. He still comes over as the smartest though the others raised some pretty tough alternate takes .
This was very enjoyable. Keep it up.
Thank you. That all of you exists.
19:31 Kothkin did call it back in the interview with Peter Robertson that Putin's plan B was to destroy Ukraine and make it a black hole of reconstruction cost for the EU.
Jolly good, at least academically! Lets have SK as a 'permanent member' of the good fellows!
Grateful for this talk thank you all
A discussion of Kotkin and Mearsheimer would be timely and helpful. Who can connect them? Topic: Most likely outcomes of Ukraine/Gaza/Israel/Middle East short-term, by US 2024 election, and on Jan 1, 2026.
Brilliant. Loved it. Its so nice to see a civil discussion with different viewpoints.
Excellent discussion, as usual. Kotkin is a treasure (and those other guys are no couches, either)!
Stephen is so respectful and extremely knowledgeable. I always listen to him because he's in lightning
Kotlin is motivated by truth and fact, 1st and foremost, the others are partisans 1st, then academics.
In 1940 we had the greatest generation. Today we have the Millenials and Gen-z's. I don't expect any big deeds from this group.
47:30 Stephen Kotkin certainly has clearer understanding of China than the other two on his both sides. He represents the thinking independent from China’s pretension and propaganda.
Despite NF’s constant interruption 😮
All 3 of them are fascinating! We do not know what we do not know concerning the future - but very very few Americans have any understanding that isolationism does not work and is dangerous. The office of the president needs to educate America yesterday! Follow up talk would be great.
Kotkin is insightful and thoughtful. I learn so much from him. The others are just a waste of time. One can only hope they are actually smarter than what comes off as simpleton comments
Excellent discussion. Thank you.
I could not have clicked faster.
Kotkin is great.
You did it John! Stephen Kotkin is here!
Let Kotkin speak, get him back fast, give him the full hour or more m, he’s got things to say and wasn’t allowed to do so.
Enjoy the conversation. Neil asked good questions.
I thought someone was breaking in in the background at 4:08. What the heck happened? Did a waiter drop a tray of glasses?
Thanks,fellows.
McNamara was the secretary of defense from 1968-1981? Are you sure the caption on his photograph is correct?
Sometimes Ferguson and Cochrane allow their strong political biases to cloud their thinking. You can't say the same about Kotkin.
Thanks for the fun. You're all good people.