Designing High-Performance Linear Actuators: Speed & Stiffness for my Juggling Robot | PDJ#19

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  • In this video we dive into the design process of creating high-performance linear actuators for my juggling robot project! These actuators are not only fast but also super stiff, ensuring the robot can juggle balls with precision and ease.
    In this video, we'll explore:
    The need for high-performance linear actuators in a juggling robot
    - Major design iterations
    - Key components of the final design and their unique features
    - A step-by-step guide on how to build the linear actuator
    - Testing the actuator: speed and endurance tests
    - Potential issues and challenges with the design
    Join me on this journey as we uncover the secrets behind designing powerful linear actuators. I hope you find this helpful if you're on the journey of making your own linear actuators!
    **** Links to things mentioned in the video ****
    Previous linear actuator video:
    • How to Design a Linear...
    Github page with CAD and code for this video:
    github.com/Project-DeepBlue-J...
    Printables page with .3mf files for the parts:
    www.printables.com/model/465545
    00:00 - Start
    00:50 - Design Requirements
    01:17 - Design Iterations
    02:07 - Anatomy of the Design
    06:17 - Building the Linear Actuator
    13:13 - Testing the Actuator
    14:19 - Possible Issues with the Design
    16:04 - Closing Remarks
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  • @harrisonlow
    @harrisonlow  ปีที่แล้ว +92

    Hey everyone! I hope you enjoyed this deep dive into the design process of the high-performance linear actuators for my juggling robot. I'd love to hear your thoughts on the design! What improvements would you suggest? Have you ever built or used linear actuators in your own projects? Share your experiences and tips in the comments below! 😃🤖🔧

    • @IncendiaryMedia
      @IncendiaryMedia ปีที่แล้ว +4

      this is slick! have you considered routing the cables through the actuator arm itself?

    • @paint4pain
      @paint4pain ปีที่แล้ว +9

      As others have mentioned, one or two PTFE or Rulon J linear sleeve bearings would be lighter and probably stiffer than 6 6001RS steel bearings. You could also swap to acetal plastic ball bearings instead of steel to lighten them up and reduce wear.
      Other than that you could replace the push and pull strings with a single string and have a tensionning spring at one end to remove backlash. You could also have the pulleys be tensioned against each other to acheve the same result but that sounds clunkier.

    • @Alrion1704
      @Alrion1704 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      14:20 use a ceramic eye from a fishing rode for strung position 😉

    • @MartinDxt
      @MartinDxt ปีที่แล้ว +5

      u can use the bike/bicycle brake tubes those are quite tough instead of the ptfe

    • @BlackHeartScyther
      @BlackHeartScyther ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I would put bearings on the 3 rods, back end of the extending arm, just for a bit more stabilization.

  • @kurt7020
    @kurt7020 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    For the string you might also look into braided uhmw, commonly used for high performance kites. It is not degraded by UV (if your robot has to perform outdoors) doesn't absorb water, and has far better abrasion resistance and has less friction than kevlar, also has nearly zero stretch for low backlash. Pretty cheap too. Excellent vid. Thanks for posting!

    • @cgln8760
      @cgln8760 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I was thinking the same but with Braided monofilament as used in fishing, for the same reasons.

    • @timotay22
      @timotay22 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      UHMWPE does have problems with creep, though. So you'd want to be sure that it's not stored under tension when not in use. Otherwise slack will creep in, and you'd need to re-tighten everything before you restart

    • @genixia
      @genixia หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Use SK99 for the lowest stretch and creep.

  • @James02876
    @James02876 ปีที่แล้ว +200

    You could probably fit the ptfe tubes inside the brake cable housing for a bicycle. Alternatively, you could design an print a modular reinforcement part that surrounds the tube and can carry the compressive load. This is a great design, very cool project!

    • @harrisonlow
      @harrisonlow  ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Thanks for the kind words!
      Re. PTFE ideas: a big consideration for these actuators in this project is that they need to be able to move around fairly freely, and I'm worried that bike brake sheaths would be too stiff, and I can't visualise how a printed support structure would be both flexible (in bending) and stiff (in compression). I would love to know if you have any suggestions on that front!
      FWIW, a few people have suggested trying brake cables and I'll be testing that (and a few other) ideas soon. I'm sure we can eventually find the perfect tube! (or completely get rid of them, as Eric McGraw suggested in another comment. So many options!)

    • @NUeB_net
      @NUeB_net ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@harrisonlow Maybe Jagwire Elite Link can do the job.

    • @James02876
      @James02876 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I was thinking about this while falling asleep last night, and I realized that simple beads-on-a-string will provide resistance against compression, but still allow flexibility while not under compression. Anything that allows the tube to freely pass through it, with a rounded edge to allow flexibility, would probably work. However, if it needs to remain flexible _while under compression_ it may be more of a challenge.

    • @NUeB_net
      @NUeB_net ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@James02876 "beads-on-a-string" is basically the idea behind Elite Link and similar products. They allow smaller radius than conventional bowden tubes and at least one of such (of which I just can not remember the name) claims to be flexible under load… so further investigation may be worth it. I never used such myself because on all of my vehicles, classic bowden works just fine.

    • @feiter
      @feiter ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Of you go down the bicycle cable option. Try with gear cable and gear cable housing rather than brake cable (thinner diameter cable and come with far more housing and connector options)

  • @maxtorque2277
    @maxtorque2277 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    Nice project! One little trick for getting strings (and wires) through tubes is to use a hoover to simply suck the string through! Works incredibly well ime 🙂

    • @SeanLavery
      @SeanLavery ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Damn, that's a good trick

    • @chrisBruner
      @chrisBruner 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You can also use pressurized air and it will blow it right though. My wife has an embroidery machine and that's how she loads the threads.

  • @wikedawsom
    @wikedawsom ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Seeing that new design in action made me realize that this would also work well for a different kind of machine...

  • @PlayNowWorkLater
    @PlayNowWorkLater ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Lots of great comments and ideas on this project here in the comments. So impressed by the ingenuity of this design. Can’t wait to see future versions of this as you keep developing this.

    • @harrisonlow
      @harrisonlow  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I agree! My notepad is rapidly filling up with suggestions. So good!

  • @JH_Tech49
    @JH_Tech49 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    Really nice. I wonder if it would be possible to route the Bowden string directly inside two of the carbon rod... This would make it looks like it's moving magically.

    • @nemesis1588
      @nemesis1588 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      If two of the bearings that holds the shaft straight had a channel in it to guide the string this could be done easily.

    • @Anonymous-ex3wq
      @Anonymous-ex3wq 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      exactly what i was thinking

    • @GnuReligion
      @GnuReligion 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@nemesis1588 Maybe turn the whole system inside out, where the actuator is a large tube on the outside, and the bearings are on the inside mounted on a smaller rod. Hide everything. Meh ... may make it too heavy.

  • @tedz2usa
    @tedz2usa 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Really nice job inventing such a fast-moving linear actuator system! I learned a lot of cool techniques, especially your ingenious way to handle the critical alignment requirements of the 3D-printed end parts with the custom spacers!

  • @temyraverdana6421
    @temyraverdana6421 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow, amazing project! Thanks for share it

  • @oscarhalse2026
    @oscarhalse2026 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Wow this project presentation was EXCELENT!
    Besides the design being impressive, the presentation was beyond what you can expect from the average engineering video. It was very easy to follow, well paced, and most crucially it covered all* your design constraints which produced the end design. That piece of context is so incredibly important to make the listener understand. It demonstrated a deep understanding of the issue, it's multiple solutions, and that your design really *is* near the ideal design for your particular use case. I felt like I actually understood the design, I didn't just observe it.
    That level of maturity in design presentation just blew me away. Personally I think you outdid "Stuff Made Here", which in my eyes is the gold standard of engineering videos on youtube. Although the comparison is nto entirely fair to "Stuff Made Here", as he obviously targets a more casual viewer.

    • @harrisonlow
      @harrisonlow  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wow! Thanks for the great feedback!

  • @JCBeastie
    @JCBeastie ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Great concept! An easy fix for the string getting pinched would be a small screw eyelet. Have you considered using Bowden cables? That would likely need you to change from spools to cams to drive it though.

  • @jeremyplatt
    @jeremyplatt ปีที่แล้ว

    This was very enjoyable, I really liked seeing the evolution of your designs, thanks for sharing.

  • @Reavenk
    @Reavenk 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome stuff! Your robot is mesmerizing to watch!

  • @weirdsciencetv4999
    @weirdsciencetv4999 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is absolutely brilliant work. I came up with a similar mechanism for my vacuum former. I needed to plunge the part piston rapidly to create a sort of surrounding bubble of soft plastic, before activating the vacuum. I'm surprised there aren't commercial products using this technique.
    Keep up the good work, I love your projects!

    • @harrisonlow
      @harrisonlow  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Cheers for the kind words! I agree that it's remarkable that this mechanism doesn't seem to exist on the internet anywhere else (at least not that I could find). Hopefully anyone else in the future who needs to build themselves a speedy actuator can now save themselves the ~1.5 yrs of development that I had to go through to get these working!

  • @judeackland-patel6646
    @judeackland-patel6646 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Wow man, it's so rare to find a channel this small with your level of production, presentation and co tent quality. Really amazing stuff. Seriously, not many channels with 4k subs who as articulatly and succinctly get complex stuff across like you. Keep going and you won't be small much longer. :):)

  • @petersvideofile
    @petersvideofile ปีที่แล้ว

    This is super cool! Thanks so much for sharing this!

  • @sennabullet
    @sennabullet ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow...brialliant!!! Thank you for sharing your inspirational work!!

  • @SouthSideChiTown
    @SouthSideChiTown ปีที่แล้ว +10

    This is so interesting! People like you are the future of technology, not big corporations. Thank you for sharing this! Subscribed!

    • @harrisonlow
      @harrisonlow  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the support!

  • @hylander2126
    @hylander2126 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    For the string running between the bearing and the slide, I would suggest 'v-groove' bearings, which as the name implies, have a groove along the face of the bearing. Maybe someone already suggested it, but just my 2 cents (or pence) :)

  • @mikevegeto1101
    @mikevegeto1101 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent design. Thanks very much for sharing!

  • @jbrownson
    @jbrownson ปีที่แล้ว

    Fascinating project, thanks for the video

  • @johnandersen8999
    @johnandersen8999 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Bicycle shifter cable and housing is super cheap and cand stand up to A LOT of tension. You could even include a barrel adjust in the system and easily adjust the tension of the cable on the fly.

  • @matthewdunstone4431
    @matthewdunstone4431 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video was such a joy to watch. Persistence has paid off. What a clever idea.

    • @harrisonlow
      @harrisonlow  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the kind words 😊

  • @glennfelpel9785
    @glennfelpel9785 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very well done. Genius I should say. Thank you

  • @Tim_Put
    @Tim_Put ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Consider mounting one bearing of each triplet on a small flexure preload spring. That way you don't need to adjust each guide. Stiffness up-to the preload will be determined by the remaining four fixed bearings. :)

    • @harrisonlow
      @harrisonlow  ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Interesting idea! I think this might have the same issue as what Charlie Wynn was suggesting in another comment - the central tube should be perfectly centred in the actuator for what I'm using it for. Precision will be very important for Jugglebot and I want to try and keep everything as concentric as possible. Thankfully the spacers/guides are really easy to swap out and once you find a size that works, there's no need to change them again

    • @MONEYMAN5811
      @MONEYMAN5811 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@harrisonlow if you’re worried about accuracy, I would adjust your attachment points on the rod for your strings. They look like they are at an angle in your video. Combined with the fact you’re only measuring distance on your motor, you’ve introduced potential backlash in the system, AND you’re measuring the change of the hypotenuse of the triangle you create with the string instead of the actual linear, parallel distance. It is probably not a lot at all, but in belt driven systems that need accuracy, the small angle can definitely throw off measurements.

    • @LimitedWard
      @LimitedWard ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@harrisonlow as long as the system is stiff enough, can't you compensate for the lack of concentricity through software?

    • @harrisonlow
      @harrisonlow  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@MONEYMAN5811 Good thinking! Something I didn't explicitly say in this video is that these actuators (there will be 6 of them) are being used to power a Stewart Platform, so the actuators need to move around quite a bit. The PTFE/string attachment points are angled to (hopefully) lessen the degree to which the PTFE inhibits the platform from moving around

    • @harrisonlow
      @harrisonlow  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@LimitedWard Yeah, probably! Though I want to limit the amount of hard-coding of this sort of physical "defect" that I need to do

  • @GabrielBoutet
    @GabrielBoutet ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Hello, one of the string could go through the center of the other red printed part (the one attached to the base of the printer at the bottom of the 3 small carbon tubes), and go through the big carbon tube to the top. It shoud fix your issue with the string under the bearing, and use a more direct path :)

    • @harrisonlow
      @harrisonlow  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Good thinking! The main reason I haven't done that is that these actuators (there will be 6 of them) will be powering a Stewart Platform, so the actuators need to move around quite a bit, meaning it's tricky to route the string through the central tube since the central tube moves so much. I love the idea though, and it'd certainly make the design a lot cleaner. Cheers!

  • @sermadreda399
    @sermadreda399 ปีที่แล้ว

    Genious man , thank you for sharing

  • @michaelguzzi1
    @michaelguzzi1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man what a great design! gonna print one to test some ideas I have

  • @jangrewe
    @jangrewe ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Heat the CF tubes up to the glass transition temperature of the filament you used (e.g. PETG = ~85°C), then push them in slow and steady. That should make things less violent! ;-)
    Instead of the 6 axial bearings, maybe look into using just one linear ball bearing (like LM8UU, but with larger inner diameter)? That should save a lot of weight, as you'll only need one. Centering it could be done via 3 bolts then.
    Use PTFE tubes with a smaller inner diameter and more wall thickness, they should get fairly rigid.

    • @MONEYMAN5811
      @MONEYMAN5811 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I wouldn’t recommend standard bearing or bushings on CF. You could go with a plastic bushing like the IGUS ones though and they seem to work okay, but there’s a bit of friction that needs to be overcome to get them moving. They also have to be preloaded quite heavy for tolerances to be good unless you go for their bushings that are already preloaded with a metal housing, which will add a bit more weight.

    • @boonjabby
      @boonjabby ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Linear bearing is a top idea, I would recommend a Teflon bushing though as it will work well with CF

    • @jangrewe
      @jangrewe ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sure, igus are great, i used them on one of my 3D printers (Prusa, got rid of that damn bed slinger). I didn't notice the friction, though - but maybe that was because they were on steel rods, not CF tubes, and had only a small contact surface at the top.
      But yeah, anything other than those axial bearings, or: any kind of a linear bearing, would be the perfect application for this - because that's what they're made for! 🥳

    • @harrisonlow
      @harrisonlow  ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@jangrewe Great ideas! Some thoughts:
      1) I love the idea of heating up the CF tubes. I wish I saw this comment before I built the remaining actuators; some of them developed cracks from my... enthusiastic... hammering 😅Doesn't seem like anything structural was damaged, but heating would certainly be better. Cheers!
      2) I previously tried a linear bearing instead of the 6 radial bearings, but the carbon fiber tubes that I'm using aren't specced for that level of tolerance; one manufacturers tubes had a loose fit, another didn't fit at all. Linear bearings would be awesome (smaller, lighter, more elegant) but I don't have the cash to get high tolerance, light tubes... yet 😉
      3) Good idea for PTFE with larger wall thickness. Very obvious but never came to mind! I'll see if I can find any.
      Cheers for the ideas!

    • @jangrewe
      @jangrewe ปีที่แล้ว

      @@harrisonlow cheers, 2 out of 3! ;-) I'll let you know if i can think of anything else...

  • @victornovak1790
    @victornovak1790 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Harrison, great job! Suggestion; instead of using the PTFE tubes for cable guides, why not incorporate the cables into the carbon fiber structure tubes?

    • @Traqr
      @Traqr ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You'd still want cable guides (shifter cable housing seems like the best bet) into the bottom block but yes, using the structural tubing as part of the string guide is a great idea.

    • @harrisonlow
      @harrisonlow  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Cheers!
      Routing the strings through the CF tubes would probably work well for many applications, but I'm using these actuators (there will be 6 of them) to power a Stewart Platform and they need to move around quite a bit. Having the strings routed through the PTFE tubes means that the strings don't get in the way of the actuator moving around

    • @sandorkonya
      @sandorkonya ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@harrisonlow i had the same idea, why not routing the strings through the CF tubes. I don't exactly undestand why would the strings get in way of the actuator?

  • @aminabudahab
    @aminabudahab 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great work, great editing, very clear

  • @natecampbell42
    @natecampbell42 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Super awesome! Another alternative to the bearings are igus drylin type r bearings. They are a split sleeve that rides very nice on carbon tubes and are reasonably affordable at around 5 dollars. We use them all the time at work for that purpose. If you put a slot and adjusting bolt in the 3d printed part you can set the preload/slop. You could probably even make a 3d printed spring feature to auto set it

  • @ericcmcgraw
    @ericcmcgraw ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Loving the progress! You can get rid of the bowden tubes and also stiffen your transmission coupling by guiding the cable around pulleys which rotate coaxially with your gimbal joints. The two cables need to wrap in opposite directions so that the total cable length remains constant. Normally this would slightly kinematically couple your linear motion with the rotation, but you can cancel this geometrically by offsetting the linear axis from the gimbal axis by the same radius as the pulleys. You can duplicate this concept rotated 90 degrees to get the other DOF of rotation. If you need help visualizing/designing the pulley layout, let me know, but I think it should be a feasible way of getting well-constrained cable motion to the actuator with almost zero flex/compliance or motion coupling. The pulleys could actually be a single, dual groove pulley since they will rotate in tandem, but you can also just use 2 parallel pulleys or one on each side of the joint itself.

    • @harrisonlow
      @harrisonlow  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks!
      Hmm, I'm having difficulty visualising what you're describing. Do you know of any real-world systems that use something similar? I do quite like the sound of a tighter transmission 😁

    • @ericcmcgraw
      @ericcmcgraw ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@harrisonlow Skyentific has shown a mechanism using pulleys co-axial with arm rotation, but for the purpose of actuating the arm itself.
      th-cam.com/video/utDagouxM5U/w-d-xo.html
      The idea I'm suggesting simply uses such pulleys to guide the cable onto and back off of the rotating body. I will try drawing the idea a little later and sending a picture if you would find that helpful.

    • @harrisonlow
      @harrisonlow  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ​@@ericcmcgraw Very interesting! I just watched that video and I think I have a better idea of what you're describing. I have a few thoughts:
      1) I'm quite averse to shifting the linear axis away from the centre of rotation as that makes the inverse kinematics for the stewart platform (what these actuators will be used for) significantly more difficult. I don't know exactly *how* much more difficult, but I started working through it a while ago and after a while decided to just make the joint axes coincident with the linear axis 😅
      2) This design looks like it'd require quite a few parts, and at the scale I'm working at, they'd have to be fairly small. I'm trying to cut down on complexity as much as possible (especially where it concerns manufacturing).
      3) As a slight (maybe) spoiler, I'm actually thinking I'll change the lower universal joint for a magnetic joint, in a similar fashion to the upper joints (this video if you haven't seen it already: th-cam.com/video/ACidat_EQ3Q/w-d-xo.html ). I'm not sure if this would affect the design you're describing, but it seems relevant to mention.
      Again, thanks for the idea! I'm interested to know what you think about the above points 😊

    • @harrisonlow
      @harrisonlow  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ericcmcgraw Grr, I think TH-cam may have removed your last comment. I can see some of it in my notification, but nothing past a "small error" re. shifting the linear axis. Did you include any links? TH-cam seems to dislike links to external sites 😡

    • @ericcmcgraw
      @ericcmcgraw ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@harrisonlow Yep, I tried obfuscating the link by spelling it out, but still no luck. Here's the comment with the link removed:
      1) I thought of that too, so I played around in Geogebra and found that you could still assume the linear axis rotates through a single point and you'd have relatively small error compared to reality. Assuming ±45 degree range of rotation, and 10mm diameter pulleys, the actual length error would only be ±0.1 mm throughout the range of motion. Here's the Geogebra file if you want to play around with it: (redacted) There do exist solutions which would cancel this error exactly, but the complexity is higher still. Let me know if you're interested in them.
      2) I've found some design possibilities which add only a few additional pulleys to the part count you already have. Complexity is a little higher, yes, but the benefits are: no sliding friction in bowden, no risk of bowden buckling, higher tension and higher stiffness capability. It's up to you whether it's worth it.
      3) Yes I saw those ball joints, it's a pretty elegant solution and I like how it makes the actuators detachable and modular. Of course the only drawback, as you mention, is the pulling force capability. As you start to push the limits of acceleration (how many balls can it juggle at a time, etc.) you may want to be able to apply high forces in both directions without worrying about the joints falling apart. Again, it's up to your own judgement (and level of ambition 😁)

  • @Broskisnowski
    @Broskisnowski ปีที่แล้ว +303

    Now make this into a 3d printer.

    • @williamchamberlain2263
      @williamchamberlain2263 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      Keep it as a juggler, but add a blob of PLA on each bounce - print times would be really long, but the time lapses would be insane

    • @absalomdraconis
      @absalomdraconis ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Never heard of a 3d printer that needed this kind of speed.

    • @tinkeringengr
      @tinkeringengr ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @@absalomdraconis Speed is a game changer for manufacturing 3D printed parts.

    • @jamesyeoman794
      @jamesyeoman794 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      FLSun wants to know your location

    • @angrydragonslayer
      @angrydragonslayer ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ​@@absalomdraconis i'm considering building a VZbot because my SK-GO died after i tried to hit 1.2 m/s (burned the servos and maybe the board)
      The VZ prints viably at 1.5 and (i might remember wrongly but) he's planning to hit 2 with usable quality.

  • @Nerdtronic
    @Nerdtronic ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome design! I keep thinking of all the possibilities.

  • @ferdyg3520
    @ferdyg3520 ปีที่แล้ว

    this is some seriously high quality stuff

  • @charliewynn3210
    @charliewynn3210 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    What if the spacers were eccentric so you could rotate them for a perfect fit? Might not work with a 3d printed part. Seems like your solution with a few sizes works great already though 🙂

    • @harrisonlow
      @harrisonlow  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's a very interesting idea! One potential issue I can see with that is that it'd make straightening the extending rod a little tricky. I didn't explicitly mention this in the video but I've been keeping each "set" of spacers (ie. top three or bottom three) the same size so that the central rod is kept centred. Having the spacers be eccentric might make this a little difficult.
      Very cool idea though and I'll keep that in mind if I need to do anything similar in the future. Cheers!

    • @charliewynn3210
      @charliewynn3210 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@harrisonlow ooh, very good point about wanting to put the same spacers around so it stays centered!

  • @BenL42
    @BenL42 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    With the encoder for leg length measurement: it's going to be slightly non-linear due to the changing diameter of the bobbin/spindle, do you think it would need correction? If so, a simple lookup table could work well.

    • @harrisonlow
      @harrisonlow  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Haha I remember a question in high school math on this exact topic! Something about a toilet roll being unwound and dealing with the changing radius. I would be very interested to know how big of an effect that would have; my intuition says not much, but I've been wrong before 🤔

    • @rymannphilippe
      @rymannphilippe ปีที่แล้ว

      Ben you are a smart thinker.

    • @TheFogmachine803
      @TheFogmachine803 ปีที่แล้ว

      You can use a badge reel that winds and unwinds really small wire/string to measure linear travel without the same issue of the radius changing that you have using that CF spring.
      A commercially available sensor product that does this is a string potentiometer.

  • @mattiasfagerlund
    @mattiasfagerlund ปีที่แล้ว

    They look amazing!

  • @SaftTechnologies
    @SaftTechnologies ปีที่แล้ว

    Bravo! Nice innovation!

  • @freakinccdevilleiv380
    @freakinccdevilleiv380 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sweet man. I watch Skyentific all the time and just now I get your video recommended.

  • @1Chitus
    @1Chitus 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Excellent work!

  • @sebassanchezc-1379
    @sebassanchezc-1379 ปีที่แล้ว

    AWESOME PROJECT!!!

  • @LordHog
    @LordHog ปีที่แล้ว

    This is very cool. Great job

  • @markaldrich8753
    @markaldrich8753 ปีที่แล้ว

    These would work perfectly in my world-domination robots! Subscribed!

  • @0redthunder0
    @0redthunder0 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing design! Nice one!

  • @thesoupin8or673
    @thesoupin8or673 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This was super cool! Subscribed.

  • @rawleystanhope3251
    @rawleystanhope3251 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great work!!!!

  • @EchONailer
    @EchONailer ปีที่แล้ว

    That’s really amazing thank you so much for the video!
    Have a look at synchromesh cables if you need more precision

  • @niciperrin
    @niciperrin 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    what a great design, thank you for sharing. i'd go for cheap brake cables with a teflon liner, that way you get rid of the backlash and its essentially friction free.

  • @DRKSTRN
    @DRKSTRN 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wanted to give a Hard Congratulations for hitting this milestone through your Project. 👏👏👏
    Looking forward to see where it goes

    • @harrisonlow
      @harrisonlow  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Cheers!

  • @rymannphilippe
    @rymannphilippe ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing what you are doing.

  • @8bit711
    @8bit711 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Phuk yeah! This is dope Bro Nice work.

  • @kenworks6068
    @kenworks6068 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very cool reduction in moving mass! Fine Work

  • @jamiekawabata7101
    @jamiekawabata7101 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice work! Inspiring!
    I had issues with PTFE tubing buckling (from compression) when I used them as bowden cables. I've wanted to try the small coils (smaller than bicycle kind) but I never got around to it (and project had already met its goals).

  • @Adam_Carbone
    @Adam_Carbone ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is just a simple idea, but you could keep the PTFE tubes and make some sort of either hard plastic or TPU sleeve to brace that goes around the tube to prevent buckling, just the parts that curve up to where the string meets the PTFE adapters/nuts so that the only part of the tube that has not bracing is just the straight-away section to the motor. Cool project nevertheless, some pretty cool innovation here! I always thought regular linear actuators were slow so this is the perfect design for some practical applications!

  • @ericblenner-hassett3945
    @ericblenner-hassett3945 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If you do decide on another iteration, you could use the three linear actuators to make a very large and potentially fast delta printer. Edited to add: Think Bike cables for the cable issues. The tubes have a twisted wire inside to ensure flex and length of housing unlike PTFE tubes that can ' crush ' under stress. You may be able to find similar gauge wires as the string or at least close enough for your purposes.

  • @LifeGeneralist
    @LifeGeneralist 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great attempt

  • @mrday60
    @mrday60 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hello, try wrapping your ptfe tubes with a metal spring. will add some support about the length of the tubes in sections that demand a turn for fitment if you want to keep the cost low. otherwise you could consider a hybrid setup using metal cable bowden sections and then connecting the strings in the “interface” at the pushrod side and motor side. this should reduce stretch and keep the weight where it needs to be and where it shouldnt. keep in mind the material compatibility here, kevlar is strong and the ptfe will handle the abrasion for a little while, so periodic change outs may be required. nice job!

  • @Tom-xn7zc
    @Tom-xn7zc ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome!

  • @davib8963
    @davib8963 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Skyentific did a video a few months ago exploring different bowden tube types for cables. I found it very helpful.

  • @harrygoonix
    @harrygoonix ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How to get rid of the bowden tubes? Why not use a flex shaft to relocate the drum from the motor shaft to the base of the actuator? This would also save space by allowing you to attach the pull cable to the bottom of the actuator shaft. The pull side of the drum would be centered under the shaft. The push cable would still need to run up to the pully and back down to the bottom of the shaft. No more strings running to the top.
    How to remove the backlash? Why not just add a spring to your newly relocated drum mount and turn it into a tensioner similar to a serpentine belt tensioner?
    A TEMO flex shaft is like $15.

    • @harrisonlow
      @harrisonlow  ปีที่แล้ว

      Interesting! I'm not sure I 100% understand what you're suggesting, but I have a few thoughts related to this:
      1) I'm interested by the idea of flex shafts / push-pull cables (are these the same things?). I've seen people suggest them on the Wintergatan project but haven't had the time to look into them much. Are they particularly flexible?
      2) For my application (Stewart Platform) it's somewhat useful to have the motor be physically separate from the actuator itself, as the actuator will be moving around and the motor would get in the way and just be more mass to move around.
      3) An unintended boon to the way I have the strings routed now is that the end caps on the central tube are only ever pulled in towards the tube. This is rather nice as it means that they'll never get pulled off if the string pulls too fast/hard, since they're only connected via a not-super-strong interference fit. I could of course make that fit better, but that would be more effort!
      Re. backlash removal: Yes! I agree with your idea of the spring, and this is something that I will absolutely be adding if backlash becomes an issue for whatever reason.
      Cheers for the ideas!

  • @lorenzomonfort7689
    @lorenzomonfort7689 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Brilliant

  • @diyfireking
    @diyfireking ปีที่แล้ว

    You have done a fantastic job 😀😀

  • @jwkooi
    @jwkooi ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice!!

  • @beaverbuoy3011
    @beaverbuoy3011 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video!

  • @macrumpton
    @macrumpton ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Really impressive performance! The bearings might be larger than needed.

  • @madsd81
    @madsd81 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome design :)

  • @fabianmuhlberger6153
    @fabianmuhlberger6153 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great stuff ! looking forward to see your progress.
    you could look for some excentric nuts, these are often used in cheap cnc builds, this would add some weight but makes it easier to adjust fully assambled. Or borrow the idea and see if excentric 3d printed sleves on the bolts will work. Another option would be to use linear bearings commonly used in 3d printers, Im not sure how well they work with carbon tubes, but its is worth a try.

  • @rhpmountaintrail9206
    @rhpmountaintrail9206 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeah definitely I think other peoples of said bicycle cable and maybe some Kevlar string would work really well. very neat.

  • @gerarddantel5931
    @gerarddantel5931 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video and walkthrough! Well done. I'm so impressed by your design. I have thing for string pulley systems.

    • @boonjabby
      @boonjabby ปีที่แล้ว

      .. so you like puppets ?

    • @gerarddantel5931
      @gerarddantel5931 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@boonjabby 😁 only those that have pulley systems... Not just strings!

  • @tinkeringengr
    @tinkeringengr ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice design!

  • @BuceGar
    @BuceGar ปีที่แล้ว

    This is genius! PATENT THIS!

  • @kingofcastlechaos
    @kingofcastlechaos ปีที่แล้ว

    Great build. Just found your channel so excited to see what is next.
    In addition to the hoover method for string, I have used a can of compressed air to blow the string through. This works well on small strings in tubes too small to use the suction method. (Saved our butts at a robotics competition when rubber tubing began to stretch- we blew string through and tied it tight and it got us through.)

    • @harrisonlow
      @harrisonlow  ปีที่แล้ว

      Great idea! Never heard of that and I've got a can of compressed air on hand. Cheers!

  • @NicholasRehm
    @NicholasRehm 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is dope

  • @beekdorrr
    @beekdorrr ปีที่แล้ว

    wow this project's awesome! i hope to do something cool like this one day :)

  • @SDesigns2023
    @SDesigns2023 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome!! So many ideas!! I had an idea regarding the string under the bearing, but then the person's comment about the Gothic Groove Bearing seemed better. I was going to suggest doing something where it uses two strings instead of just the one, a string on each side of the bearing somehow. Maybe something like that with the grooved bearings as well could work? Great stuff!!

  • @Adamroable
    @Adamroable ปีที่แล้ว

    You had my subscription at "I'm building a juggling robot".

  • @TheThunder005
    @TheThunder005 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nicely structured and well explained video! Keep up the good work!
    Edit: i really like the simplicity of the design with the range of motion it offers. Thinking outside the box work here!

  • @yeroca
    @yeroca ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, that's an amazing mechanism! It's a bit like a hydraulic actuator, in some sense, because they typically (?) apply force through high pressure to one side of the piston at a time, rather than using pressure and vacuum on one side.

  • @swhbpocl
    @swhbpocl 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very nice solution! To make it more long-lasting, I strongly suggest to put an outer liner of hard PU on the bearings with a slight groove. Rolling friction will of course increase a little but the contact pressure and noise will decrease radically. Another alternative is to use really thin-walled stainless tubes with carbon inside for strength and stiffness and the bearings as is.

  • @yeinierferras2721
    @yeinierferras2721 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi!!! You can use a V profile bearing, perhaps using TPU as a bearing cover. I think that will provide more stability (at least two contact points per bearing). This V profile can allow you to run the thread close to the apex of the V.

  • @joshuaszeto
    @joshuaszeto ปีที่แล้ว

    this is a pretty brilliant design. I am curious to see what sort of loads it can move and sustain. I can see a lot of automotive applications for this sort of design.

  • @procactus9109
    @procactus9109 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like them, awesome

  • @saksham01
    @saksham01 ปีที่แล้ว

    the almighty algorithm has blessed this man

  • @VideoStefan17
    @VideoStefan17 ปีที่แล้ว

    looks good!! i´ll stay to see more :)

  • @martinguardiola3436
    @martinguardiola3436 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great job mate, I really love cable mechanisms. Just as a fun fact, engines use half-bearings with different thicknesses to compensate the manufacturing variations between parts, your solution really made me remember that, they're also diferenciated by color. Again, great job!

    • @harrisonlow
      @harrisonlow  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Haha yep, colour differentiation helps so much. Got the idea from the adapters that came with the encoders to fit differently sized shafts. Such a simple solution!
      Cheers for the kind words 😊

  • @HolmesHobbies
    @HolmesHobbies ปีที่แล้ว

    The ptfe tube buckling could be remedied with something like bicycle shift cable.
    The bending looks pretty high energy! Thats wild! Impressive machine youve built. Odrive looks amazing

  • @TheRobojay
    @TheRobojay ปีที่แล้ว

    You could make one of the bearings be in a tab that flexes a bit. You flex it out to fit the rod then the bearing will have tension against the rod. It's like making the bearing be pushed by a spring. I would recommend PC filament for this kind of thing as it retains its shape well when tensioned and is strong

  • @joshgray1331
    @joshgray1331 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent work! Your solutions to inherently slightly sloppy FDM parts is very smart! Somebody get this guy a SLS printer ;)

    • @harrisonlow
      @harrisonlow  ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh man I've been dreaming of having some better tools; SLS printer being pretty darn high on that list 🤤

  • @JOSELOPEZ-bq3us
    @JOSELOPEZ-bq3us 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    HarrisonLow, this is amazing education!!! Love it. Wish you were in the USA, so we can do an STARTUP... Wish you the best!!!

  • @threepotgtti
    @threepotgtti ปีที่แล้ว

    Mountain Bike gear change cable outers would be perfect to replace your string guide pipe. Brake cables are just wound steel outer, but the gear change cables are not spiral bound and have a teflon/ptfe liner - they are designed for both push and pull actions with low friction.

  • @jwinfieldfrank
    @jwinfieldfrank ปีที่แล้ว

    I like the coil spring idea. You can integrate it into the bearing assembly.

  • @randallblake1213
    @randallblake1213 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Impressive. I need linear actuators that are both fast and strong. That means very expensive. 😢 I think I’ll try yours! 😊

  • @xXValdiXx
    @xXValdiXx 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As for cable transmission look inspiration in bike handle breaks, or in cars I think gas pedal have same cable and tubing system
    Hope I helped

  • @Personnenenparle
    @Personnenenparle ปีที่แล้ว

    You should consider a capstan style of transmission to the rope.
    Also, if you want to ba able to desassemble the tubes from the plastic, you can make a full cylinder, drill it in the center and screw in a slightly oversized screw to make it press fit

  • @tomdgr9767
    @tomdgr9767 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are a genious !

  • @JustPlainRob
    @JustPlainRob ปีที่แล้ว

    For a cable system, just look for something like a bicycle brake cable or derailleur shift cable. They're usually braided steel cables with a solid shield tube and some kind of plastic (probably PTFE) lining. It's easy to cut with hand tools, and is intended for durability and longevity in some nasty environments.
    Have you tried using one of those constant-force springs inside the cable spool to take up backlash?

  • @leelipinski4667
    @leelipinski4667 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ive just just read every suggestion and thought of the most mentioned one's. String in support legs, use of bike cable sheathing, different shaped bearings. But didn't see any suggestion of just running a rubber pully wheel at the top of the 3 CF legs that snugs up against the CF tube with a tension adjuster.
    So your motor would spin the rubber wheel instead
    Would save string going to top and bottom of main CF leg.
    Obviously there could be slippage, just a thought.
    Great idea thou.
    Im subscribing.............
    Now.
    Thanks for sharing 👍

  • @hightech7744
    @hightech7744 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Impressive. I didn't get a full view of the whole thing. I have subbed and liked waiting for the next video.