Anyone interested in a class B rent before you buy. My wife got caught up in the "gotta have a B" on TH-cam. The quality brands (hint hint) are ok for 1 or 2 people for day trips or long weekends but beyond that your limited. Theres very little room for any additional gear storage which for us was the deal breaker. We rented a Travato from a private renter for 1 week and she realized within a few days that it was too small and very uncomfortable overall.
Thanks for the comments John and I definitely understand your situation. We rent Class A, B and C's which can give someone an opportunity to decide which type fits their personal needs the best. As a company we also really focus on trying to listen to how our customers are going to use an RV and make recommendations from what previous customers have found works best. Best of luck in your RV adventure.
I was thinking of towing a small trailer behind me with extra "stuff" and leaving it behind at camp when I take the RV for a spin. I'd chain it to a tree or whatever for security just in case.
@@mikeallensonntag, we are so RICH to be able to afford to spend that much just to have a tool to get us from point A to point B! I for one wouldn't buy it if I'm not a millionaire but obviously so many others have different idea! Ha, ha, ha
They are selling a Chinese based Van Conversion for $65,000 Australian. Normally our own conversions on different auto bases are on the whole cheaper than the US. Quality is the same or better. There are a lot more players in this segment than in the US
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Yes, He did a great job with this tour. I wonder how many outtakes they did because he seemed to dodge hitting his head like a master. Wonder about the interior height.
A few years ago I almost bought the Travato 59GL (no generator, all lithium batteries) even though I much prefer sliding windows (MUCH stealthier) and a cassette toilet (you can empty them anywhere), but the final blow was when I looked under the van. The battery system was 5" from the ground, I figured that a rock could take out my $20,000 batteries way to easily.
We can honestly say, we have not had any of our lithium model Travato customers take our a battery yet (knock on wood), but that could be a valid concern!
@@MillersRV Interesting. I see other Class B vans bottom out all the time (usually Sprinter vans) just trying to do a simple U turn at White Tank campground (Joshua Tree). And they have much better clearance than the Travato.
I would recommend considering the Winnebago Revel. It is a great vehicle for people looking to get off road. We also have a few other 4X4 models, please reach out to learn more - sales@millersrv.com, or call/text 225-275-2940
We had a customer yesterday that bought from a dealership that sold a standard trailer over MSRP! That is not the type of dealership we are. We are very aggressive on prices and would love to work with you. You can see all of our in stock inventory here - please note that there is a minimum price we are allowed to post by Winnebago but we are often able to do better than that - millersrv.com/inventory/?keyword=travato&quickSearch=true
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Well done, young man. Fantastic presentaion. I have been a trailer/RV/mobile home freak since I was a kid. Love watching all these vids. Thank you for being one of the best. I wish you everything good in life.
Our van doesn't have an awning attached to the side. My wife saw a video a couple years ago that featured an awning that wraps around the van 270º. It's called a batwing. It takes under 5 minutes to set up and take down. My wife has to use a short step ladder due to the high roof, and I use an upside down 5 gallon bucket. That's the only negative, but the ladder and bucket come in handy for a lot of things, so having them is great. Open back doors are fully covered and the side sliding door is 3/4 covered.
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I think the Travatos are the best. Especially the back corner trapezoid bed model. Out of all the class B vans I now think this is my favorite version.
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We hate to hear when customers aren't using their RV's. We recommend using them as often as you can, even going on shorter trips to take advantage of the bathroom.
No it does not. Most of our motorhomes don't come with a spare. They Travato (and other RAM chassis) have a pump that can refill the tire or solution that seals and fills the tire.
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It is lovely. The industry wouldn't listen to rvers for years, so rvers started building their own rv vans. Now the industry tapped in and prices are ridiculous.
Winnebago actually is one of the best manufacturers and not only listening but seeking out input from end users across different demographics. A lot of the features over the last 10 years have been customer driven and Winnebago continues to try and balance exciting new features and taking the time to prove that the construction/technology of those features.
@@MillersRV That good to hear! We have rented a few new Winnebago's c class the past few years. A lot of staples or fabric pulling off from the dinettes. Wish they could use some more durable marine options in all models.
This unit costs more than my 40' 4slide than my Monaco coach. There is no comparison to how little you get for the money in a van. The sticker on my coach when new $236,000, bill of sale shows sales price was $177,000 included washer/dryer, two heat pumps, 8KW On an diesel genset. Maybe someday these vans will sell for what they're worth.
While I do understand what you are saying. Compare that $236,000 to the sticker price on a comparable class A today... Big difference. There are a lot of factors that go in to the pricing of B vans. You have to have similar technology to the big motorhomes, but make it much smaller. The tanks are also smaller so you have to have more efficient appliances. Chassis upgrades/increase in prices also play a huge role in the prices of b vans. And of course the demand does factor in to the price some as well. Just to name a few factors. Thanks for the feedback.
Yes, my friend Purchase one it has the logical lithium battery system and it will not run the air conditioner lol and I have problems with the Electrical system and it has been in the shop the whole time Since he has owned it
The KL and GL models have the lithium and we have had excellent service out of that product. If it will not run the AC on lithium and your dealer cannot solve the problem try reaching out to Winnebago directly. If you are near Louisiana give us a call and we can take a look at it, 225-275-2940
“In the shop” - words that will keep me from buying a Class B. I don’t want to be 1000 miles from home when that baby needs to go in the shop and I’m stuck who knows where. I’d rather buy a pro master and build it out myself.
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It is actually just a shadow. I will try to attach a picture to this reply but have never done that and not sure it will let me. When you open the door the left 8-10 inches is closed off to hold the tv wiring etc.
There are 2 drawers below the microwave. I couldn't add the pictures but if you email me at jeff@millersrv.com I can send the pictures of the overhead cabinet I mentioned above and the kitchen storage.
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The 59K is a traditional setup with a generator. So the standard alternator does charge the house batteries (lead-acid). The 59KL would have the lithium package with the second alternator to charge the lithium system.
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That is certainly an option. There are also some modifications that can be done if you plan on camping at campgrounds regularly and want to have that functionality.
I'm answering this question multiple times. There are many mods but the most popular one is getting a short hose with a 90 degree elbow. Then the end can be installed outside the closed doors. They put the fresh water tank inside to make it more of a 4 season type van for winter use.
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Without modification that is correct. This unit is designed primarily for people who travel and not camp at campgrounds but there are options to allow a hose to be hooked up and the doors closed.
That could work but you will need to tow a small trailer, our Bushwhacker or Bushwhacker Plus would be a good option. Travato tow capacity 2,650 lbs and our 15 ft Bushwhacker Plus weighs right at 2,000 lbs while the smaller Bushwhacker units are even less.
Yea the freshwater tank is inside so you have to fill it by opening the back door. Some complaints about that but of course you can modify it with a short hose going outside. The tank is inside to make it a 4 season van so it won't freeze.
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Do not buy one made in the pandemic years! I've had nothing but problems with my 2021 59G, to include a major wiring problem that left me with no working ceiling fans or A/C on my vacation to the southwest...vacation ruined! Plus ongoing problem with the brakes. In the first year these we things had to be replaced: water pump, chassis battery, 3 recalls on awning, seat belts, stove. Buyer Beware!!!
I own one. The sliding door is real tight and has to be slammed hard to close. We now enter the van though the back for simplicity and being a standard door. I bought a step hitch mount to climb in easily.
@@LCLand The KL is nice, but we chose to buy the non-lithium model as we don't use AC much (or the microwave) as the weather is northern CA doesn't usually require AC. It does come with a 1000-watt pure AC inverter with two AGM batteries that can run anything else. It can be upgraded to lithium in the future with a simple modification. The lithium model does run about 25 K more too.
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Yes, from the factory you would have to leave it open hooked up to city water. The reason why is that the vast majority of the target market aren't using the units at campgrounds. Also it is possible to add a way to hook up and leave the door open if this is the unit you are looking and want to use at campgrounds.
@@MillersRV Thanks for the quick response. If the target market is not for use at campgrounds, then could you please explain what the target market is? Thanks!
@@MillersRV I'm very curious... If "the vast majority of the target market aren't using the units at campgrounds." then how are they using them? Thanks for the insight.
I love the van ,but I hate a lot of vans are making small space to stand shower . The dressser storage are taking too much space for shower restroom . Too much storage ,too much furnitures kitchens will suck too much gas .The bed both sides should be bunk bed or either side . The kitchen table are too big taking too much space . I love more solar on top . Every interiors should build bathroom shower bigger ,more bleeping beds , less windows save electrics, save everything. This is the most main important for interior design .
The do not have the child seat tethers that lock onto new carseats but you can use the forward facing seat with the 3 point seatbelt to secure a carseat.
Stop putting the microwave below, it helps looking I tell them don't show me any w/a microwave below counter, they show me 1 after I just walk away not saying aword
Due to the space of overhead cabinets in a B of this Floorplan it doesn't allow for an overhead microwave. There are some units with a larger kitchen area that have space, but this model it just isn't an option.
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What technology? No lithium but an archaic Onan generator. Pretty much useless for boondocking unless you want to really annoy your neighbors or any wildlife in the area. Fairly cheap interior build. Priced insanely high.
We don't post pricing on TH-cam since our videos stay up longer than we could hold pricing but you can see current 59K units including prices on our website millersrv.com/inventory/?keyword=59k&quickSearch=true MPG has been reported upper teens to 20.
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I live in Colorado and I see vans on the road but not comparative to C and A Tall folks these are not great, I'm 6'2 and felt a bit cloafobic. I agree the prices are too high. Yes you might have more driving flexibility but if you can't move around in it then a class c works better for me and less expensive.
A class C is still a great option. Here at Miller's RV, our focus is NOT on what unit we want to sell, but INSTEAD we focus on what unit fits your individual needs best. For some it will be a C and for others a B, A or towable.
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I haven't seen a B-van with a cab over in 20 years. Airstream used to make one on a ford chassis called the 190 that we called a mushroom top. I don't know of any other B's with a cab over.
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I don't understand why they give the wrong price for the car. $59 thousand even just a dry car, without any RV furniture and options will cost more. Such RVs are priced at $100/110, which is still realistic, but not 59.
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We might've missed showing the holding tanks. Winnebago is working on an EV. It is different than the Travato though. Here is a link to one of their videos on it. th-cam.com/video/p6W1wCmhERE/w-d-xo.html
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I don't know why they put the countertop here, it is the best spot when the door is open ,they should put sofa bed here. it can use the door space as other side sofa extend to be a bed during the night .and kitchen next the shower also better for keep the night up noise from the bathroom .
Interesting. I've never seen anyone set up a unit like that. It seems like one problem would be that you loose the ability to make the 2 twins into the double so two people can sleep together.
This sort of thing appeals to me, but I just wonder though if they are seeing the same rampant quality problems with these that has plagued entire RV industry in recent years. USB plugs are great, but I have the feeling that they will become obsolete before too long. The industry loves to change the plugs on us. lol, just saying. Good video.
Don't know of any options other than going to a B+ (which is technically a Class C without the overhead cab). For example the Regency Ultra Brougham millersrv.com/inventory/?keyword=regency+ultra+brougham&quickSearch=true
I want to see you sit (with clothes on please) on the toilet to show how much room you have in the bathroom. I’m somewhat disabled and can’t stand straight up, kind of need to move forward and up.
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@@MillersRV it does but sadly the joke was on me. I had a similar class B with the rear bath. The back up light blew out in the 4 th week. The rv dealer told us to bring it to Ram and the Ram dealer told us to bring it to the RV. Sadly the had to remove half the rear bath in order to change the bulb. No access to the bulb from the outside. Good luck
Yes. You would need some special equipment - heated water hose for example. I would also consider air skirts if you are going to be stationary. For heat I would consider 2 things. First would be the addition of an electric fan with a heater if you are staying at campgrounds. This would cut down on the LP gas usage. The second would be to add an "extend a stay" which allows you to hook up an exterior LP tank to give you increased capacity for your heater and other LP appliances.
@@MillersRV How about not using a rv park but just parking in various Quiet locations. What types of issues can i exspect to run into! I admit being a NEWBIE to Rv Life but i just can see paying apt rent anymore as it continually goes up!!!!
The "59K" floorplan designation confuses a lot of people, I guess they never considered people reading it as a price. We don't list prices on our videos because they stay current much longer than we can guarantee a price, but all our pricing is listed on our website millersrv.com/inventory/?keyword=travato&quickSearch=true
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Hi Nikki, our videos stay up way longer than we can guarantee a price. Our current prices for this model can be seen on our website millersrv.com/inventory/?keyword=59k&quickSearch=true
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Sure, 280-hp, 3.6L V6 gas engine, 9-speed automatic transmission. It has a really nice drive with sufficient power for this size unit. We'd love to set up a time for you to come drive for yourself.
I have a 2021 and lots of problems. Took it to the factory to get fixed and left with more problems from untrained technicians and a big bill. Would never buy another Winnebago ever again. 80 percent of the people in the waiting area having work done when I was there for 5 days had same story same results. Very bad factory service 👎
I am so sorry to hear this. That is definitely not the normal experience my customers have had over the last 30 years with Winnebago products. I don't have a lot of experience with the factory service, we normally take care of all customer issues at our dealership, but the few times I have had a customer go there it was a good experience. I hope you can get the issues resolved and enjoy your unit.
We'd really like to talk with you and see what how you are planning to use your RV before we make recommendations. If you have a few minutes, reach out to us call/text 225-275-2940 or email sales@millersrv.com. That being said, there are definite differences but both are on the same chassis so same drive/handling. The Travato has way more features, is available with full electric lithium package or generator and certainly costs more. The Solis gives a price point we haven't seen in a while and is also available in an even more scaled down unit without a shower. Floorplans are different and often that is the most important thing to a customer. Hope this helps a little.
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If the rest of the unit is right for you, there are some options we can offer for the water connection. Please let us know if you want to take the next step.
@@MillersRV @joechism4424 0 seconds ago Im actually looking for similar model just trying to figure out who has the best price. As we know they are all overpriced.
Sorry Ray, 59K is the Floorplan designation, not the price. You can view our current prices on our website, millersrv.com/inventory/?keyword=59k&quickSearch=true
I thought the same thing. These things cost more than a house now. Who the hell can afford them? Only rich people. Once again, the middle class are left out of living the good life.
@@Hard_Car_Life You can put together a much less expensive version of this. Just like most any product, there are going to be flashier versions but a less expensive version can get you most of the way there. I have a van that I camp in that is 1/4 - 1/3 the cost of this. Can still live the good life without being so called rich.
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Unfortunate it's called the 59k haha... I already know the confusion and anyone knowledgeable of the prices would assume it's probably at least double that
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I like the rv, but I did see some other camper that had the fold out bed up front and the dining across from it, with big tv over driver seat for viewing, and cooking and bath closer to back of rv, and I found that set up to be more attractive. But otherwise, I like this, not sure if I like diesel tho, bc too expensive.
I can only laught at what they give you for the price of a house. 193k retail price and you get this? 215W solar? Did they forget a zero? And a TV as thick as 20 years ago? But hey, they put a big soundbar, that probably alone has a markup of 5k. I can imagine: TV cinema package $11,999. Im sorry, ill have to move to america if you can sell a van like that for 200k. Sure its not bad carftmanship, but for that price you could buy a house.
It's got a fairly deceiving name for something that's over twice that price. I guess it's smart marketing by Winnebago, but it's underhanded and sneaky and not something I would've expected from them in the past.
It is strictly a model and floorplan number - 59 is the model, K, KL, G and GL are the 2 different floorpans with or without Lithium system. It is like a Lexus 350RX or a BMW 3 series - just designating what unit it is. I don't think it ever occurred to Winnebago that people would mistake the model number for a price. The first time someone asked me if it was $59,000 I was really confused where they had gotten that number.
I completely understand. The reason we don't put a price on our videos is that videos stay relevant for much longer than we can honor a price. Our website will always have current pricing. I will mention to the team to start putting links in the descriptions with our current inventory which includes pricing. Thanks for the feedback.
This is ChatGPT's definition... pretty accurate! A Class B RV, also known as a camper van, is a compact, versatile motorhome built on a van chassis. Unlike larger RVs, Class B models are easier to drive and park, making them ideal for both urban and rural travel. Despite their smaller size, they often come equipped with essential amenities such as a kitchenette, a small bathroom, and a sleeping area. Class B RVs are popular among solo travelers or couples who value mobility and efficiency without sacrificing comfort.
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Something not right here. This rep. was hunch over the entire van. I suppose the required height for this van was not stated at the beginning of this presentation.
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Having used RVs with cassette toilets and holding tanks, I prefer the cassette system. Yes, you have to service it more often, but you can empty it anywhere and for free.
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When I saw "59K", I thought this RV costs 59K. Well, I was dreaming
LOL, Me too. I was thinking this thing is going to have nothing in it.
LOL, we've heard that before and passed it along to Winnebago.
I'd have one if they were 59K. Heck, I might even buy a second one for my wife if they were 59K.
@@digitaldan8223 Ha HA!
Very manipulative marketing trick
Anyone interested in a class B rent before you buy. My wife got caught up in the "gotta have a B" on TH-cam. The quality brands (hint hint) are ok for 1 or 2 people for day trips or long weekends but beyond that your limited. Theres very little room for any additional gear storage which for us was the deal breaker. We rented a Travato from a private renter for 1 week and she realized within a few days that it was too small and very uncomfortable overall.
Thanks for the comments John and I definitely understand your situation. We rent Class A, B and C's which can give someone an opportunity to decide which type fits their personal needs the best.
As a company we also really focus on trying to listen to how our customers are going to use an RV and make recommendations from what previous customers have found works best. Best of luck in your RV adventure.
I was thinking of towing a small trailer behind me with extra "stuff" and leaving it behind at camp when I take the RV for a spin. I'd chain it to a tree or whatever for security just in case.
If it cost 59k it would be worth it!
Here's what I found at Google's............MSRP on this coach is $162529.00!!!!! :-)
The 59k and 59g are honestly priced in the entry mid range. B vans go all way into the 250k range.
@@mikeallensonntag, we are so RICH to be able to afford to spend that much just to have a tool to get us from point A to point B! I for one wouldn't buy it if I'm not a millionaire but obviously so many others have different idea! Ha, ha, ha
I wish we could sell them at that price!
@@mikeallensonntag 320K range -- Airstream Atlas' gets up there...
Man the prices of these vans have gone thru the roof. Just a few years ago you could’ve picked one up for less than a 100k.
We have definitely seen some large chassis price increases. There are some new features but much of it is chassis.
They are selling a Chinese based Van Conversion for $65,000 Australian. Normally our own conversions on different auto bases are on the whole cheaper than the US. Quality is the same or better. There are a lot more players in this segment than in the US
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Why do they call it a 59k if the thing costs 150k?
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give that boy a raise, he did an amazing job of selling that RV, if am ever in the market would like him to be the salesman
We think he is pretty great too!
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I've met him in person and he's just as nice IRL as in his video's. I've done two deals with Millers RV and they are wonderful to work with.
Yes, He did a great job with this tour. I wonder how many outtakes they did because he seemed to dodge hitting his head like a master. Wonder about the interior height.
A few years ago I almost bought the Travato 59GL (no generator, all lithium batteries) even though I much prefer sliding windows (MUCH stealthier) and a cassette toilet (you can empty them anywhere), but the final blow was when I looked under the van. The battery system was 5" from the ground, I figured that a rock could take out my $20,000 batteries way to easily.
We can honestly say, we have not had any of our lithium model Travato customers take our a battery yet (knock on wood), but that could be a valid concern!
@@MillersRV Interesting. I see other Class B vans bottom out all the time (usually Sprinter vans) just trying to do a simple U turn at White Tank campground (Joshua Tree). And they have much better clearance than the Travato.
I like cold weather, and love getting AWAY from crowds. The ProMaster not having 4x4 drive is a deal breaker. Nice van otherwise! ❤
I would recommend considering the Winnebago Revel. It is a great vehicle for people looking to get off road. We also have a few other 4X4 models, please reach out to learn more - sales@millersrv.com, or call/text 225-275-2940
I hope one of these days supply catches up with demand and dealers wont be able to gouge everyone and make a 50k markup on every sale
We had a customer yesterday that bought from a dealership that sold a standard trailer over MSRP! That is not the type of dealership we are. We are very aggressive on prices and would love to work with you. You can see all of our in stock inventory here - please note that there is a minimum price we are allowed to post by Winnebago but we are often able to do better than that - millersrv.com/inventory/?keyword=travato&quickSearch=true
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Happening presently.
Well done, young man. Fantastic presentaion. I have been a trailer/RV/mobile home freak since I was a kid. Love watching all these vids. Thank you for being one of the best. I wish you everything good in life.
Thank you very much. Same to you!
I could just imagine having an awning extending over the back doors would be an ideal addition. Maybe in future models.
Nice idea!
Our van doesn't have an awning attached to the side. My wife saw a video a couple years ago that featured an awning that wraps around the van 270º. It's called a batwing. It takes under 5 minutes to set up and take down. My wife has to use a short step ladder due to the high roof, and I use an upside down 5 gallon bucket. That's the only negative, but the ladder and bucket come in handy for a lot of things, so having them is great. Open back doors are fully covered and the side sliding door is 3/4 covered.
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I think the Travatos are the best. Especially the back corner trapezoid bed model. Out of all the class B vans I now think this is my favorite version.
Glad to hear.
Very good presentation, kudos to this young man.
We think he's pretty great!
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Best walk-through video I've seen to date...great job. Thank you
Wow, thanks!
Cam, Is it as hard to get a RAM dealer to service this chassis under warranty as it is to get a Ford dealer to service their Transit chassis?
We have had more success getting Ram's serviced than Ford's but not sure this is true in every market.
My friend has one, 2017 and used only 3x (12k miles). So much money for a little of pleasure.
We hate to hear when customers aren't using their RV's. We recommend using them as often as you can, even going on shorter trips to take advantage of the bathroom.
Is there a spare tire? I would consider leaving the music out. Great video.
No spare tire. Only comes with a pump. You'll have to pay for that separately with an expensive mounting system too.
No it does not. Most of our motorhomes don't come with a spare. They Travato (and other RAM chassis) have a pump that can refill the tire or solution that seals and fills the tire.
@@MillersRV we just had a blowout from a pothole. I wouldn’t want to travel without a spare. Is there no space for one?
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These lil coaches have some pep! Quick little succas!
They do! Perfect to carry around all the little Boudreaux's!!!
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It is lovely.
The industry wouldn't listen to rvers for years, so rvers started building their own rv vans. Now the industry tapped in and prices are ridiculous.
Winnebago actually is one of the best manufacturers and not only listening but seeking out input from end users across different demographics. A lot of the features over the last 10 years have been customer driven and Winnebago continues to try and balance exciting new features and taking the time to prove that the construction/technology of those features.
@@MillersRV That good to hear!
We have rented a few new Winnebago's c class the past few years. A lot of staples or fabric pulling off from the dinettes. Wish they could use some more durable marine options in all models.
This unit costs more than my 40' 4slide than my Monaco coach. There is no comparison to how little you get for the money in a van. The sticker on my coach when new $236,000, bill of sale shows sales price was $177,000 included washer/dryer, two heat pumps, 8KW On an diesel genset. Maybe someday these vans will sell for what they're worth.
While I do understand what you are saying. Compare that $236,000 to the sticker price on a comparable class A today... Big difference. There are a lot of factors that go in to the pricing of B vans. You have to have similar technology to the big motorhomes, but make it much smaller. The tanks are also smaller so you have to have more efficient appliances. Chassis upgrades/increase in prices also play a huge role in the prices of b vans. And of course the demand does factor in to the price some as well. Just to name a few factors. Thanks for the feedback.
Yes, my friend Purchase one it has the logical lithium battery system and it will not run the air conditioner lol and I have problems with the Electrical system and it has been in the shop the whole time Since he has owned it
The KL and GL models have the lithium and we have had excellent service out of that product. If it will not run the AC on lithium and your dealer cannot solve the problem try reaching out to Winnebago directly. If you are near Louisiana give us a call and we can take a look at it, 225-275-2940
“In the shop” - words that will keep me from buying a Class B. I don’t want to be 1000 miles from home when that baby needs to go in the shop and I’m stuck who knows where. I’d rather buy a pro master and build it out myself.
You didn't mention the toilet at all - what kind is it, cassette, blank tank, what?
It has a black tank in the Travato.
Great job Cam! Cheers from Houston!
Thanks!
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Great sales presentation, I want one…
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Thanks and come get one!
Why is there a gap in the first storage area above the tv? And what is storage like below the kitchen area?
It is actually just a shadow. I will try to attach a picture to this reply but have never done that and not sure it will let me. When you open the door the left 8-10 inches is closed off to hold the tv wiring etc.
There are 2 drawers below the microwave. I couldn't add the pictures but if you email me at jeff@millersrv.com I can send the pictures of the overhead cabinet I mentioned above and the kitchen storage.
No back up camera . The rest just fine. Vince Long Island n.y bring it to ny❤
Sorry if he didn't show it, there IS A BACKUP CAMERA! When do you want it delivered???
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Like the rear bath.
Thanks!
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Does this model have a rear camera?
Yes it does!
wonder if it has an extra alternator to charge the batteries and what kind o batteries and how many?
The 59K is a traditional setup with a generator. So the standard alternator does charge the house batteries (lead-acid).
The 59KL would have the lithium package with the second alternator to charge the lithium system.
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I wonder if you can run your city water hose out of the back window. Leaving the doors open is not ideal.
That is certainly an option. There are also some modifications that can be done if you plan on camping at campgrounds regularly and want to have that functionality.
I'm answering this question multiple times. There are many mods but the most popular one is getting a short hose with a 90 degree elbow. Then the end can be installed outside the closed doors. They put the fresh water tank inside to make it more of a 4 season type van for winter use.
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@@philc.9280 Thanks, but how do you get the short hose outside of the van body if the door is closed?
From the thumbnail image I thought you were Alice from "The Brady Bunch."
Funny, I can actually see that. Can't wait to change his name under his picture on our team wall.
So if I hook to city water I can’t close and lock up?
Without modification that is correct. This unit is designed primarily for people who travel and not camp at campgrounds but there are options to allow a hose to be hooked up and the doors closed.
I need this to live in live in pull one
That could work but you will need to tow a small trailer, our Bushwhacker or Bushwhacker Plus would be a good option. Travato tow capacity 2,650 lbs and our 15 ft Bushwhacker Plus weighs right at 2,000 lbs while the smaller Bushwhacker units are even less.
There was a Vinnie Travato in the old neighborhood....collector for the mob, used to break kneecaps.
I LOL'd on that one. I'll ask Guido at the factory where they came up with the name.
Great video and information. Great RV Van...😊
Thank, we love the Travato!
I wondered what he meant when he said you had to keep the door open to hook up to city water? Are you supposed to unhook just to close the door?
Great!
Yea the freshwater tank is inside so you have to fill it by opening the back door. Some complaints about that but of course you can modify it with a short hose going outside. The tank is inside to make it a 4 season van so it won't freeze.
@@philc.9280 Thank you, it doesn’t sound so bad with that modification.
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Do not buy one made in the pandemic years! I've had nothing but problems with my 2021 59G, to include a major wiring problem that left me with no working ceiling fans or A/C on my vacation to the southwest...vacation ruined! Plus ongoing problem with the brakes. In the first year these we things had to be replaced: water pump, chassis battery, 3 recalls on awning, seat belts, stove. Buyer Beware!!!
SO sorry to hear of your troubles with the Travato and hope you have better luck in the future.
wish it came with a standard rv door vs sliding door.
Unfortunately not something the body manufacturers (Ram in this case) will allow to be changed by the RV up fitter (Winnebago).
I own one. The sliding door is real tight and has to be slammed hard to close. We now enter the van though the back for simplicity and being a standard door. I bought a step hitch mount to climb in easily.
@@philc.9280 great idea. Looking to buy one to travel to work and stay 2 nights each week. I want the kL for boondocking
@@LCLand The KL is nice, but we chose to buy the non-lithium model as we don't use AC much (or the microwave) as the weather is northern CA doesn't usually require AC. It does come with a 1000-watt pure AC inverter with two AGM batteries that can run anything else. It can be upgraded to lithium in the future with a simple modification. The lithium model does run about 25 K more too.
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Do you need to keep the back door open when hooked up to city water? If so, what do you do when it rains? Thanks.
Yes, from the factory you would have to leave it open hooked up to city water. The reason why is that the vast majority of the target market aren't using the units at campgrounds.
Also it is possible to add a way to hook up and leave the door open if this is the unit you are looking and want to use at campgrounds.
@@MillersRV Thanks for the quick response. If the target market is not for use at campgrounds, then could you please explain what the target market is? Thanks!
@@MillersRV I'm very curious... If "the vast majority of the target market aren't using the units at campgrounds." then how are they using them? Thanks for the insight.
I love the van ,but I hate a lot of vans are making small space to stand shower . The dressser storage are taking too much space for shower restroom . Too much storage ,too much furnitures kitchens will suck too much gas .The bed both sides should be bunk bed or either side . The kitchen table are too big taking too much space . I love more solar on top . Every interiors should build bathroom shower bigger ,more bleeping beds , less windows save electrics, save everything. This is the most main important for interior design .
Thanks for the feedback.
Do the vans have seatbelts for carseats
The do not have the child seat tethers that lock onto new carseats but you can use the forward facing seat with the 3 point seatbelt to secure a carseat.
Stop putting the microwave below, it helps looking I tell them don't show me any w/a microwave below counter, they show me 1 after I just walk away not saying aword
That's what they call a deal breaker!
Ppl have hurt themselves while grabbing something piping hot overhead...
Due to the space of overhead cabinets in a B of this Floorplan it doesn't allow for an overhead microwave. There are some units with a larger kitchen area that have space, but this model it just isn't an option.
Putting the microwave up high and making the van More top-heavy ? No
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I love you used the word plethora ❤
Haha! I think it was the only appropriate word to use
What technology? No lithium but an archaic Onan generator. Pretty much useless for boondocking unless you want to really annoy your neighbors or any wildlife in the area. Fairly cheap interior build. Priced insanely high.
It's available with or without the lithium package. The lithium will have an "L" after the model (ie 59KL or 59GL).
How much? MPG?
We don't post pricing on TH-cam since our videos stay up longer than we could hold pricing but you can see current 59K units including prices on our website millersrv.com/inventory/?keyword=59k&quickSearch=true
MPG has been reported upper teens to 20.
do people watch tv while camping?
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Some definitely do and we try to offer the best options for those who want that luxury.
Did you mention MPG, WHY NOT ?
This is a big range but 18-22 is posted. I've personally seen more 16-18 range. I'm sure it has nothing to do with the way I drive!
I live in Colorado and I see vans on the road but not comparative to C and A
Tall folks these are not great, I'm 6'2 and felt a bit cloafobic. I agree the prices are too high. Yes you might have more driving flexibility but if you can't move around in it then a class c works better for me and less expensive.
A class C is still a great option. Here at Miller's RV, our focus is NOT on what unit we want to sell, but INSTEAD we focus on what unit fits your individual needs best. For some it will be a C and for others a B, A or towable.
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That music is so annoying
Yes
Sorry about that, it is louder than it should be and I've shared this with our production team.
Do they make a class b with cab over
I haven't seen a B-van with a cab over in 20 years. Airstream used to make one on a ford chassis called the 190 that we called a mushroom top. I don't know of any other B's with a cab over.
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That would be a class c
I don't understand why they give the wrong price for the car. $59 thousand even just a dry car, without any RV furniture and options will cost more. Such RVs are priced at $100/110, which is still realistic, but not 59.
It is the floorplan or model designation. Winnebago makes a 59G and a 59K but it doesn't have anything to do with price.
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Ohh.Ok
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Did I miss you showing the different tanks?
Is an EV version planned?
We might've missed showing the holding tanks. Winnebago is working on an EV. It is different than the Travato though. Here is a link to one of their videos on it. th-cam.com/video/p6W1wCmhERE/w-d-xo.html
@@MillersRV Thanks
What is the price on the red rv van conv ?
I am interested in one.
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Lose the background music…PLEASE!!!
Thanks for the feedback, I listened and it is definitely too loud. I will pass it along to our production team.
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@@MillersRV thanks! Otherwise, really great info! 👍
I don't know why they put the countertop here, it is the best spot when the door is open ,they should put sofa bed here. it can use the door space as other side sofa extend to be a bed during the night .and kitchen next the shower also better for keep the night up noise from the bathroom .
Interesting. I've never seen anyone set up a unit like that. It seems like one problem would be that you loose the ability to make the 2 twins into the double so two people can sleep together.
This sort of thing appeals to me, but I just wonder though if they are seeing the same rampant quality problems with these that has plagued entire RV industry in recent years.
USB plugs are great, but I have the feeling that they will become obsolete before too long. The industry loves to change the plugs on us. lol, just saying. Good video.
Thanks for the feedback. Winnebago has a stellar reputation for quality and customer service especially when compared to competitors.
I wish that we could see more that don't have the big sliding door
Don't know of any options other than going to a B+ (which is technically a Class C without the overhead cab). For example the Regency Ultra Brougham millersrv.com/inventory/?keyword=regency+ultra+brougham&quickSearch=true
I want to see you sit (with clothes on please) on the toilet to show how much room you have in the bathroom. I’m somewhat disabled and can’t stand straight up, kind of need to move forward and up.
I'm not able to add a picture to this comment, but if you call our mainline and ask for Cam I will have him send you a picture. 225-275-2940.
I want it❤❤❤❤❤❤
We can make that happen!
Lol that you keep showing photos of completely different vans during your video. Good tour though of the Travato K.
Sorry about that. We have 2 K models in stock and the tag shot is of the other unit.
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North Carolina isnt a true test of being in the cold. take one out in -40 degrees with 60 mph winds and 3 feet of snow and see how it holds up.
That's cold! Truthfully I have never tried camping in anywhere near that temp - I can ask our dealer who sells them in Canada his thoughts.
I always look past the dollars to look at technologies, unfortunately the dollars always remind me the technology is to expensive.
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Definitely some truth there.
Is "Plethora" an upgrade?
It SHOULD be!!!
59k!? That got my attention until I found out it wasn’t the price.
I don't think it ever crossed their mind but it sure has our customers.
The sofas in rv’s look like they’re cement hard. No detail. How about tufting to add interest and comfort?
That's a pretty broad statement. Some are very comfortable, some are less comfortable.
How do you change a
Tail light bulb
This sounds like the beginning of a joke...
@@MillersRV it does but sadly the joke was on me. I had a similar class B with the rear bath. The back up light blew out in the 4 th week. The rv dealer told us to bring it to Ram and the Ram dealer told us to bring it to the RV. Sadly the had to remove half the rear bath in order to change the bulb. No access to the bulb from the outside. Good luck
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Million dollar question? Single older guy who wants to LIVE IN this! In michigan with cold winters, is this Possible??
Yes. You would need some special equipment - heated water hose for example. I would also consider air skirts if you are going to be stationary. For heat I would consider 2 things. First would be the addition of an electric fan with a heater if you are staying at campgrounds. This would cut down on the LP gas usage. The second would be to add an "extend a stay" which allows you to hook up an exterior LP tank to give you increased capacity for your heater and other LP appliances.
@@MillersRV How about not using a rv park but just parking in various Quiet locations. What types of issues can i exspect to run into! I admit being a NEWBIE to Rv Life but i just can see paying apt rent anymore as it continually goes up!!!!
I'm not looking past the $$$$ sign.
The "59K" floorplan designation confuses a lot of people, I guess they never considered people reading it as a price. We don't list prices on our videos because they stay current much longer than we can guarantee a price, but all our pricing is listed on our website millersrv.com/inventory/?keyword=travato&quickSearch=true
Do you have a sales office in Riverside CA.?
We do not, just Louisiana - but the food is worth the drive!!!
What's the meaning of the "59K" name?
Just a floorplan/model designation.
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Hello young man, how tall are you if you don't mind me asking.
5'11"
@@MillersRV cut or uncut young man?
Why don’t give the price
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I really liked it until you said the door has to be open for the city water hookup. No way.
Tell me about the engine
Sure, 280-hp, 3.6L V6 gas engine, 9-speed automatic transmission. It has a really nice drive with sufficient power for this size unit. We'd love to set up a time for you to come drive for yourself.
I have a 2021 and lots of problems. Took it to the factory to get fixed and left with more problems from untrained technicians and a big bill. Would never buy another Winnebago ever again. 80 percent of the people in the waiting area having work done when I was there for 5 days had same story same results. Very bad factory service 👎
I am so sorry to hear this. That is definitely not the normal experience my customers have had over the last 30 years with Winnebago products. I don't have a lot of experience with the factory service, we normally take care of all customer issues at our dealership, but the few times I have had a customer go there it was a good experience. I hope you can get the issues resolved and enjoy your unit.
Does it have baby car seat anchors
Sorry I missed replying to this email. They do not have child seat tethers on the Travato.
Excellent review, Impressive van
Thanks, we love the Winnebago B-vans!
You can buy a modest 5th wheel and pickup to pull it for that amount of money.
Thanks for the feedback.
Travado vs solis ? And why ?
We'd really like to talk with you and see what how you are planning to use your RV before we make recommendations. If you have a few minutes, reach out to us call/text 225-275-2940 or email sales@millersrv.com.
That being said, there are definite differences but both are on the same chassis so same drive/handling. The Travato has way more features, is available with full electric lithium package or generator and certainly costs more. The Solis gives a price point we haven't seen in a while and is also available in an even more scaled down unit without a shower. Floorplans are different and often that is the most important thing to a customer.
Hope this helps a little.
Cost?
Thanks for asking, our current prices are available on our website, millersrv.com/inventory/?keyword=59k&quickSearch=true.
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I need one caravan . In that caravan 4 or 5 members should stay and fully electric
Not sure what you mean by this comment.
That water connection is stupid. Need to make an access panel in the door with proper drainage.
If the rest of the unit is right for you, there are some options we can offer for the water connection. Please let us know if you want to take the next step.
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Im actually looking for similar model just trying to figure out who has the best price. As we know they are all overpriced.
I like the rear bath with dual bed/couch just looking for low milage used or best price new@@MillersRV
So I’ve read the comments but I’m still confused is this van 59,000 or is it not?
Sorry Ray, 59K is the Floorplan designation, not the price. You can view our current prices on our website, millersrv.com/inventory/?keyword=59k&quickSearch=true
I know.. that’s what I thought and it’s totally misleading
I thought the same thing. These things cost more than a house now. Who the hell can afford them? Only rich people. Once again, the middle class are left out of living the good life.
@@Hard_Car_Life You can put together a much less expensive version of this. Just like most any product, there are going to be flashier versions but a less expensive version can get you most of the way there. I have a van that I camp in that is 1/4 - 1/3 the cost of this. Can still live the good life without being so called rich.
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Whats the price?
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at 3:10 view of inside
gotcha!
Unfortunate it's called the 59k haha... I already know the confusion and anyone knowledgeable of the prices would assume it's probably at least double that
That model designation has definitely raised some questions!
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I like the rv, but I did see some other camper that had the fold out bed up front and the dining across from it, with big tv over driver seat for viewing, and cooking and bath closer to back of rv, and I found that set up to be more attractive. But otherwise, I like this, not sure if I like diesel tho, bc too expensive.
There are definitely some great floorplans out there - with Winnebago you get great floorplans and excellent design and engineering!
I can only laught at what they give you for the price of a house. 193k retail price and you get this? 215W solar? Did they forget a zero? And a TV as thick as 20 years ago? But hey, they put a big soundbar, that probably alone has a markup of 5k. I can imagine: TV cinema package $11,999. Im sorry, ill have to move to america if you can sell a van like that for 200k.
Sure its not bad carftmanship, but for that price you could buy a house.
It's got a fairly deceiving name for something that's over twice that price. I guess it's smart marketing by Winnebago, but it's underhanded and sneaky and not something I would've expected from them in the past.
It is strictly a model and floorplan number - 59 is the model, K, KL, G and GL are the 2 different floorpans with or without Lithium system. It is like a Lexus 350RX or a BMW 3 series - just designating what unit it is.
I don't think it ever occurred to Winnebago that people would mistake the model number for a price. The first time someone asked me if it was $59,000 I was really confused where they had gotten that number.
Just like Motel 6.
All these RV videos, but never give idea on the purchase price$$$, that turns off potential buyers. What ever happen to truth in selling??😮
I completely understand. The reason we don't put a price on our videos is that videos stay relevant for much longer than we can honor a price. Our website will always have current pricing.
I will mention to the team to start putting links in the descriptions with our current inventory which includes pricing. Thanks for the feedback.
Too bad it is scaring the hell out of $ 200,000.00, that is a chunk of change.
What is class B RV?
This is ChatGPT's definition... pretty accurate!
A Class B RV, also known as a camper van, is a compact, versatile motorhome built on a van chassis. Unlike larger RVs, Class B models are easier to drive and park, making them ideal for both urban and rural travel. Despite their smaller size, they often come equipped with essential amenities such as a kitchenette, a small bathroom, and a sleeping area. Class B RVs are popular among solo travelers or couples who value mobility and efficiency without sacrificing comfort.
The music needs to be louder.
What, I can't hear you over the music?
Ohhh - message received.
No Ram chassis for me
We have several options on the Sprinter chassis if you prefer Mercedes. Please let us know how we can help.
Why not?
@@LCLand there’s discussion about the capacity to handle steep inclines and such
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The manufacturer knew damn well people would mistake 59K for being the price. I hate manipulative behavior like that
We can't say whether they did or not, but we wish we could change it!
Background music very distracting from what was otherwise a great video.
Thanks for the feedback, I listened and it is definitely too loud. I will pass it along to our production team.
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Just deliver one to my house please 😀
Sounds great, I'll send a few papers over to be signed!!!
Something not right here. This rep. was hunch over the entire van. I suppose the required height for this van was not stated at the beginning of this presentation.
Not sure why it appeared that way. The interior height is 6'3"
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What are you looking at?
This kid gets more screen time than Sinatra.
LOL, that's one I haven't heard before!
If you need a generator, your solar doesn’t work properly!
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Solar is great for much of your functionality, but in the south a generator is still needed by many who want to be able to run the AC off grid.
Having used RVs with cassette toilets and holding tanks, I prefer the cassette system. Yes, you have to service it more often, but you can empty it anywhere and for free.
The cassette toilet is a really nice feature on some vans. Have you seen the Winnebago Solis product? It has the cassette system.