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I really appreciated the section on changing beliefs. That we can't all be whatever we want to be with enough discipline/work etc. That many things are baked in. This is such a toxic thing that is promoted by the self help industrial complex. Rich Roll, specifically was a highly motivated swimmer and lawyer before he turned his life around after problems with weight/booze. He's not somehow superior to someone else who struggled and couldn't overcome their challenges. Much of his motivation and discipline was baked in genetically and how he was raised. Or take a guy like Tim Ferriss who went to frickin Princeton, one of the OG ivies. These people are born motivated. They are genetically gifted. They can't not achieve certain things. And it's awesome. This matters because people are suffering from feeling inadequate when comparing themselves to others who have baked in advantages. The mental health crisis we're seeing today is partly fueled by these unrealistic expectations of achievement. I highly recommend everyone listen to Alain de Botton on this. He has a number of remarkable perspectives that push back on the very American notion of perfectability. Specifically S6, Ep2 How to Fail: Alain De Botton howtofail.podbean.com/e/how-to-fail-alain-de-botton/ "The single greatest enemy of contemporary satisfaction may be the belief in human perfectibility." "If you tell someone that they can be anything, and they turn out to be merely ordinary, that's a pretty crushing fate." "The modern world is so harsh on failure because it essentially sees both success and failure as deserved."
loved the podcast, especially the part of "am I an alcoholic? "and how both of you showed vulnerability. I myself have done a year sober in 2024 and I had the same experience of seeing my compulsive/impulsive behaviour and found a new solution (food and dating apps) without me noticing at first. Thanks Mark, all the best with the podcast!
Mark & Rich, This timing is perfect for me. I keep replaying to embed it deeper into my conscious and subconscious. It was not only full of great information and insight, but lots of great belly laughs out loud. I have several questions, but the most important is, will you please provide the link or document, or at least a written summary, that supports the meta analyses of all the therapeutic modalities? This will be very helpful in my work. Let me know if you're willing to answer a few more questions. Thanks you both so much!
The teachings of *Jesus* are profoundly helpful. Even if one does not believe in a God per say. His teachings are practical and proven to better ones life. ✝⬆
I guess the problem is these podcasts are often like just another kind of self help book. Like, if Rich or Mark really cared about saving our time and pushing us to action they could offer a concise cliff notes version of the important points off the top of the pod/video, then if you feel like the conversation sounds interesting you could listen. Rich and Mark are still looking to monetise our time even if they put a good spin on it.
Loved this conversation ...candid and fun with lots of wisdom speinkled in!. Over 66 years, I've learned that I may not eliminate anxiety but I can cultivate a different relationship with it and accept rather than resist it. This shift can reduce the associated suffering. It's still there, but it doesnt carry as much charge.
I totally agree with Mark when he said you can improve yourself but not completely change yourself due to your individual brain chemistry. I've struggled with anxiety and orthorexia my whole life and eat healthy get good sleep and exercise and still find it hard to not be anxious it's nice to hear that instead of always trying to change or improve myself with all the various self help podcasts it's better to accept myself and try to find coping mechanisms there is too much pressure on trying to improve and change ourselves these days
Even when you have a circuit guest on (like Rangan last week) it’s special because of you and the direction you take. There’s so much depth and authenticity during your interviews that make it worthwhile, despite hearing the same guest on other podcasts. As long as you’re not selling out in your mind, we don’t see it that way… Listen to your gut, mate! You’re changing lives with your conviction and values. Love this episode and the truth you both preach!
Fantastic conversation between two titans in the personal development world! I could listen to both Mark and Rich all day, they're evenly matched in insightfulness
This was fantastic. You are two of my favorites and what a great listen to start my year. I could add soo many comments, but I’ll just say it was great and thank you.
This was a great conversation! The best I’ve seen in a long time. What a chemistry. Love how genuine, relatable and down to earth Mark and Rich are ❤👏.
2 really cool people sharing a very cool conversation. The honesty, the unpacking of really important concepts, telling on yourselves, all really powerful reminders we all can benefit from. A GREAT way to begin the new year! Thanks, Rich, for giving an F about your listeners!!
This is one of my favorite episodes so far and I have loved many! Beyond authenticity of the conversation that starts right around 35 minutes is so interesting and thought-provoking. I have a son who is an alcoholic so it strikes a personal note but it's still so interesting and a glimpse into who you guys really are. Love it
This episode was so comfortable and relatable-it felt like a conversation I could sit with for hours. It gave me a fresh perspective on a few things and left me reflecting deeply. Thank you for creating such thought-provoking and honest content.
I appreciate all the "heavy lifting" interviews you have done over the years. Your research and thoughtfulness in asking questions is refreshing to me. I encourage you to not fall prey to click bait and keep on with your style which is more "elite" in my mind. Happy New Year.
I really enjoyed how flowy the conversation was. You brought up some good points about how it's not always necessary to do so much research about each guest and just letting the conversation guide you. Of course its a sign of respect to do some homework on the guests beforehand, but its also respectful to let things naturally take there course while also maintaining that sense of awe and surprise with new information. Thanks to both of you! 👏
What a great yarn! Scheduled social time! I’m feeling you on that at 41 having to not be the party animal anymore and getting clean. Respect the journey you have both endured and appreciate the open, insightful conversation.
Rich is back! Been and listener for about 10 years. You inspired me to do Ironman, go vegan, and most importantly, you helped me navigate our son’s addiction in 2018 to drugs when I had no one else to turn to. Your pod was always at the top of my rotation for years, but a couple years ago, I lost a connection with you, your guests and your style and although you stayed in my rotation, your pod was one I turned to when I didn’t have anything else I really wanted to listen to. I really reconnected with you over the holidays listening to many of your guests on the Best of Series for 2024 that I skipped during the year. I still have about 6 episodes in the cue. This was an amazing “conversation” that I never wanted to end. I would have kept listening if this was 5 hours long. Great job to the both of you. The best “conversation” that I can remember in a long time and I was laughing and smiling the whole time. Thank you and I look forward to many more conversations like this in 2025. This episode will be a tough one to beat! ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Great interview! Thank you Rick & Mark. I especially enjoyed the exchange and insight about whether Mark was/is an "alcoholic" and should attend AA or not. Rich was extremely gracious with his advice and personal experience on the matter My brother is a recovering alcoholic and the exchange hit the heart in the best way possible. Thank you both, gentlemen.
You probably don't understand because you're not an alcoholic... most alcoholics who haven't recovered will do the opposite of whats suggested... so it's really using reverse psychology on someone who has an addiction problem
That was such a good talk! Real, vulnerable and on point in so many subjects! I have to agree on the view of California as a place with a lot of superficial and instagramable self help community. I struggle a lot of find the real deal among all of that!
Hey rich, great episode. I actually love it when you get unhinged and laugh a lot and joke. It's the most entertaining and a joy to witness. Btw, I've been a listener for years and I appreciate your integrity and warm warm heart. ❤love from Atlanta.
I am so grateful for the both of you.. the valuable lessons and insites that I took away from this is very much appreciated Stay light and fluffy !! Nancy G
Just read his book last month, which then lead me to the outstanding (and difficult) "The Denial of Death" by Ernest Becker. Thank you Rich for always having enlightening guest and your excellent conversational skills.
I have gone to a Tony Robbin’s even (for work) and I did not feel happier after and I am a pretty happy person on a normal day. I think the community of affluent goers become happier because they use it as networking. The advice in my opinion was junk. They had an entire segment about drinking water it was life changing🙄. What I think he sells is an image or an idea that if you go to his seminars you will become wealthy and I believe it’s that promise that keeps people going back and spending what money they have to be part of an “elite” group. He is not self help. He is a snake oil salesman. Just to add some positivity to this comment, I truly enjoyed this conversation. Thank you for the authenticity.
i read The Subtle Art twice. I got more out of it the second time. I think because I read Gary John Bishop's books around the same time the first go-round. I just felt his books resonated more with me. The second time, however, I really enjoyed it through and through and took notes, marked pages and wanted to pay more attention to his points. Everybody really needs to apply this whole concept to their lives. Everybody honestly cares too much about everything and the stupid shit that just consumes our brains that creates anxiety. His relaxed attitude is refreshing. 😊 Know what you want to do and not do and stand up for that. 👍
"The subtle art of not giving a f***" was published in 2016 (it was Mark's 2nd book, first was "Models - attracting women through honesty and emotional vulnerability) and has by now sold a hard to believe 20 million copies ! That's downright incredible .
Loved this episode. Read his book. So good! Re Tony Robbins: I’ve been following him on and off since 1990s when my sales manager required we complete one of the tape sets. Did “Get the Edge” and even saw him at a sales rah rah. I agree his brilliance is creating community, but he really focuses on changing your “state” to be as positive as possible to receive information. Community, music, and dancing do that. He then delivers the message to a happy audience. Also, I am one of those who can change desired personalities (or desires to change personalities). I call it willingness to grow and evolve. I’m not the same person my entire life. I love learning about how we humans are programmed. It’s work to take the best and leave the rest. But fun work!
There is a Tommy Tiernan show in Ireland , you should look it up -He welcomes mystery guests every week picked by his team and has to interview them with no preparation-sometimes he knows them and sometimes he doesn’t but it always makes me great viewing 😊
When I’m at a point where my mind goes.. yeah you’re a bit boring now.. (meaning I’m bored) it’s time to push and keep going 🤣🤣.. I’m not used to the stability, I’ve been chaotic! Neurotic (ADHD) and honestly the boring stuff makes me want to cry, feels like I’m dying (so dramatic 😂😮💨) working on it 😅 xxxx
This episode was a lot of drivel, especially the first half with Mark bashing the self-help world that is his and Rich's bread and butter with Rich eagerly agreeing with Mark's overly broad critiques. It's both easy and pointless to make such generalized attacks. For a bit it sounded like Mark had Rich's wife Julie/SriMati (her type, not her specifically) as one of the many types of gurus he can't stand. That made Rich's concurrence even more cringe worthy. They did zone in on critiquing Tony Robbins at one point--which was at least specific. In the second half or so Mark got more real about his own life and came across as a human with all of the same issues as the rest of us (which of course is true). I listened while driving. I suspect (and hope) that Mark isn't as shallow as he came across in this conversation. This was not the best of Rich Roll.
Bit contradictory… half way in “anxious people are just anxious people, accept who you are and move on”…. End of interview, “people with Identity Flexibility can change and improve the most”. Which is it?
😂 everyone has an opinion on Tony Robbins especially those who have never attended an event. I’ve been to many Tony Robbins events. And yes we danced and it was sooooo much fun. But the dancing and socializing isn’t the magic. Tony has the ability to teach YOU to believe YOU can be better. The movement helps the inspiration become muscle memory. Thanks for the reminder while I was writing this.
The first self help book that I read was Unlimited Power in 2013 when I was 24 and lost. I remember seeing the book at a local thrift store, not knowing who Tony Robbins is. The simplicity of the cover, a black cover with bold red and white font that reads Unlimited Power got my immediate attention. Words cannot describe the value I got from this book. I became so fascinated by self help that I read many self help books. Majority of them did not provide anywhere near as much helpful content as Unlimited Power. The only exception is Dale Carnegie’s two main books. I also followed Tony’s Personal Power 2 audio program which had so much value. Robbins is filled with energy, he reaches people from the most positive approach and the most caring approach. You get a sense that he cares about you, even if you never once met him. He communicates in a way that triggers motivation and inspiration unlike anyone else. That is the reason he is as successful as he is and I recommend anyone and everyone to indulge into his content if you are looking to take a nose dive into personal development.
He's still the one getting richer, not the attendees... Agree that these "helpers" often help you have a good time, replacing a moment with a good friend.
literally tony doesnt try to take credit and he straight up tells you that by moving your body, dancing, shouting etc gets you into another state. he aint trying to pull the wool over anyones eyes. sounds like they watched 3 tik toks on the guy...
As someone who used to be anxious, who is no longer that anxious thanks to somatic therapy, I disagree with some of Mark’s definitive statements. Sure there’s parts of my personality that may never change, but you can rewire your nervous system to be rooted in the ventral vagal more often and feel less anxious.
Halfway through this interview, I think I’ve heard enough…. Here’s a guy who has a podcast all about the things that people are doing that aren’t helping them and he’s monetizing criticizing how other people are living their lives… I say “get your own life.” I can’t count how many times he has said I’m not really putting them down while he’s putting them down. You’re making money off of it dude,don’t complain.
Exactly. In the second half he stopped putting down his very own industry and got more real about his own life. Still, I was underwhelmed. I mean at times it was interesting listening to the two of them bro out. At the very end Mark mentioned his deep immersion in Buddhism when he was a younger man, that piqued my interest, but it was more of an aside. A lot of frothy-ness in this episode.
Brain synaps docking difficulties causes the pursuit of dopamine HITS ,just like Alcohol, Herion , Weed and $$$$. Good luck to both you gentlemen with YOUR addictions ❤. Don't die chasing ❤😂 !
Absolutely brilliant podcast...totally "real" and "authentic". I can honestly say, one of my all time favorites. I didn't want this to end. Hope to see you both back together soon. This was amazing, thank YOU both 😘😘
Isn't just "doing the shit that works" also a form of helping yourself? Therefore it can be defined as self help, right? Anything that helps yourself can be called self help, and this type of over analytical and judgemental conversation of how different folks go about helping others and helping themselves I find to be condescending and insulting, what's the use in judging and condemning others who go about helping themselves in a way that you personally don't agree with? Just be and let be.
Not all “self help” producers create value. It could be argued that there are many. This is the point. If you don’t analyze what you internalize you let false beliefs materialize.
@@djo6198 Isn't it up to the individual themselves to determine what value they find and what helps and what doesn't help them? What might be a false belief to you might not be a false belief to another. To each their own, and if something helps someone then I am all for it, regardless if another thinks it's a false belief or not.
perhaps the question to ask yourself is, do you believe all the people in this space are actually trying to help you? If you do, I’d encourage you to do some honest research and see for yourself. Some individuals are easy prey for some of the so called self help “gurus”. For those people, info like this is a PSA. Beware, not all these people have your best interest in mind and it’s for this reason that I agree with what they are saying. I consider this warning to very helpful and a reminder of the reality that some of these people are taking advantage of other people. To me, that doesn’t fall into the just let them be category. If you choose to believe that a sticker of Mickey Mouse will cure your cancer… you have a right to choose that. As a friend I’d say, you may want to reconsider based on this data. If you tell desperate people that they should pay you $1000 for your Mickey Mouse sticker because you believe it cures cancer then you are - hurting- people by taking their money that should be appropriated to more proven healing methodologies and legal action should be taken against you or you should be corrected in some form. This is the point of their conversation. If you’re offended by it, that’s totally fine. You may want to ask yourself… why.
Suasidel msn off in the distance KNOWS the pieces fit ❤ ! Opened his heart to reveal ALL ❤ ! Many miles away will walk again and decto STAY ❤ ! DON'T DIE ❤ ! Its AMAZING ! Once you see❤ !
interesting....intelligent person, questioning culture of self help (rightly in a way...) but also perhaps a symptom there is something in need of healing but too painful to admit. self help, church is silly but seeing it in reverse: the thing that he fears the most and 'intelligently' attacking it so he doesnt have to go there. church, self help are just tools to guide us through heartache when we are willing to begin that process. yes it all can appear silly when taken to extreme like anything else. just a tool kit tho---for which i am most grateful when the heartache is really intense. the tools a hand hold to get to the other side.
Tony Robbins may be an alien but he's said/written some good things over the years. And I say that having never been to one of his seminars. Just remember to listen to a little Alan Watts after each TR session.
Been listening for 1.5 hours… not getting a lot of value from this one. Would love to hear more tips/tools applicable to my life… this seemed more like these two guys giving eachother pats on the back the whole time. His life is very specific, so it doesn’t translate to what most of us are doing lol
I love disclaimers saying 99% of people will never make it, dont know, are this ignorant or that ignorant, but YOU could be of of the 1%. Awesome! The funny truth is one of the hidden not so hidden goals in life is be better than other people. And one way to be better as other people is having people that listen to you, that you can indluence. And that is way so many podcaster claim they have found their purpose (and you as the listener kind of have not). well if the pupose is that people listen to you and you can influence them and make them believe you have a better life than them , then congrats:)
Crazytown can be a very fun place to visit! Just be cognizant of what street you choose to walk down and limit the amount of time you spend there. Also, keep in mind that Crazytown, for the tin hat club, is a US political convention. LOL. =)
Didn't some university research Tony Robbins' work and found it more successful than any other anti-depression intervention? I find him inauthentic too and wouldn't go to his seminars. But I think his actual work might be effective for those interested.
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Thanks for having me on Rich! Was a blast!
I really appreciated the section on changing beliefs. That we can't all be whatever we want to be with enough discipline/work etc. That many things are baked in. This is such a toxic thing that is promoted by the self help industrial complex. Rich Roll, specifically was a highly motivated swimmer and lawyer before he turned his life around after problems with weight/booze. He's not somehow superior to someone else who struggled and couldn't overcome their challenges. Much of his motivation and discipline was baked in genetically and how he was raised. Or take a guy like Tim Ferriss who went to frickin Princeton, one of the OG ivies. These people are born motivated. They are genetically gifted. They can't not achieve certain things. And it's awesome.
This matters because people are suffering from feeling inadequate when comparing themselves to others who have baked in advantages. The mental health crisis we're seeing today is partly fueled by these unrealistic expectations of achievement.
I highly recommend everyone listen to Alain de Botton on this. He has a number of remarkable perspectives that push back on the very American notion of perfectability. Specifically S6, Ep2 How to Fail: Alain De Botton howtofail.podbean.com/e/how-to-fail-alain-de-botton/ "The single greatest enemy of contemporary satisfaction may be the belief in human perfectibility." "If you tell someone that they can be anything, and they turn out to be merely ordinary, that's a pretty crushing fate." "The modern world is so harsh on failure because it essentially sees both success and failure as deserved."
loved the podcast, especially the part of "am I an alcoholic? "and how both of you showed vulnerability. I myself have done a year sober in 2024 and I had the same experience of seeing my compulsive/impulsive behaviour and found a new solution (food and dating apps) without me noticing at first. Thanks Mark, all the best with the podcast!
You're a really fun guest. Thank you for coming on brother 💯
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Mark & Rich, This timing is perfect for me. I keep replaying to embed it deeper into my conscious and subconscious. It was not only full of great information and insight, but lots of great belly laughs out loud. I have several questions, but the most important is, will you please provide the link or document, or at least a written summary, that supports the meta analyses of all the therapeutic modalities? This will be very helpful in my work. Let me know if you're willing to answer a few more questions. Thanks you both so much!
For me, the best self help advice of all times is to put on your shoes and go for a run.
Boring
I’ve read every self help book… and I feel almost ready to get started
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Almost ❤😂? ! Doesn't cut it !
The teachings of *Jesus* are profoundly helpful.
Even if one does not believe in a God per say.
His teachings are practical and proven to better ones life. ✝⬆
I guess the problem is these podcasts are often like just another kind of self help book. Like, if Rich or Mark really cared about saving our time and pushing us to action they could offer a concise cliff notes version of the important points off the top of the pod/video, then if you feel like the conversation sounds interesting you could listen. Rich and Mark are still looking to monetise our time even if they put a good spin on it.
💯🤌
Loved this conversation ...candid and fun with lots of wisdom speinkled in!. Over 66 years, I've learned that I may not eliminate anxiety but I can cultivate a different relationship with it and accept rather than resist it. This shift can reduce the associated suffering. It's still there, but it doesnt carry as much charge.
I totally agree with Mark when he said you can improve yourself but not completely change yourself due to your individual brain chemistry. I've struggled with anxiety and orthorexia my whole life and eat healthy get good sleep and exercise and still find it hard to not be anxious it's nice to hear that instead of always trying to change or improve myself with all the various self help podcasts it's better to accept myself and try to find coping mechanisms there is too much pressure on trying to improve and change ourselves these days
Needed that 10 years sober. It was good to hear and listen. Very enlightening. Thanks, guys.
Even when you have a circuit guest on (like Rangan last week) it’s special because of you and the direction you take. There’s so much depth and authenticity during your interviews that make it worthwhile, despite hearing the same guest on other podcasts. As long as you’re not selling out in your mind, we don’t see it that way…
Listen to your gut, mate! You’re changing lives with your conviction and values.
Love this episode and the truth you both preach!
Agree 💯
That exchange about forcing eachother to hangout was the only time I’ve laughed at a podcast. Relatable and hilarious.
Amazing episode ❤
Fantastic conversation between two titans in the personal development world! I could listen to both Mark and Rich all day, they're evenly matched in insightfulness
This was fantastic. You are two of my favorites and what a great listen to start my year. I could add soo many comments, but I’ll just say it was great and thank you.
This was a great conversation! The best I’ve seen in a long time. What a chemistry. Love how genuine, relatable and down to earth Mark and Rich are ❤👏.
2 really cool people sharing a very cool conversation. The honesty, the unpacking of really important concepts, telling on yourselves, all really powerful reminders we all can benefit from. A GREAT way to begin the new year! Thanks, Rich, for giving an F about your listeners!!
Wasn't expecting such a good & grounded pod, thanks. Great listen
Best conversation and perspective that I've heard in a while
This was such a great conversation.!! The voices are so nice to the ears, and it was entertaining. I liked it.
Rich, you are amazing. be bold , change it up. We will still be here! ❤️❤️
This was refreshing and down to earth. THANK YOU Rich for giving us the little mental break from all that "growth" chatter which is all over youtube.
This talk was so enlightening. It wasn’t the usual garb. This helped out a lot. Eye opening for sure 👍🏻
This is one of my favorite episodes so far and I have loved many! Beyond authenticity of the conversation that starts right around 35 minutes is so interesting and thought-provoking. I have a son who is an alcoholic so it strikes a personal note but it's still so interesting and a glimpse into who you guys really are. Love it
Thanks for letting us sit in on your scheduled play date, really needed this sort of conversation today.
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A really enjoyable interview with some solid life advice 🙏
Thank you so much Rich & Mark ☺️
This episode was so comfortable and relatable-it felt like a conversation I could sit with for hours. It gave me a fresh perspective on a few things and left me reflecting deeply. Thank you for creating such thought-provoking and honest content.
I appreciate all the "heavy lifting" interviews you have done over the years. Your research and thoughtfulness in asking questions is refreshing to me. I encourage you to not fall prey to click bait and keep on with your style which is more "elite" in my mind. Happy New Year.
Hope you're far from those fires and staying safe.
Another great episode.
Thank you!
I really enjoyed how flowy the conversation was. You brought up some good points about how it's not always necessary to do so much research about each guest and just letting the conversation guide you. Of course its a sign of respect to do some homework on the guests beforehand, but its also respectful to let things naturally take there course while also maintaining that sense of awe and surprise with new information. Thanks to both of you! 👏
What a great yarn! Scheduled social time! I’m feeling you on that at 41 having to not be the party animal anymore and getting clean.
Respect the journey you have both endured and appreciate the open, insightful conversation.
Rich is back! Been and listener for about 10 years. You inspired me to do Ironman, go vegan, and most importantly, you helped me navigate our son’s addiction in 2018 to drugs when I had no one else to turn to. Your pod was always at the top of my rotation for years, but a couple years ago, I lost a connection with you, your guests and your style and although you stayed in my rotation, your pod was one I turned to when I didn’t have anything else I really wanted to listen to. I really reconnected with you over the holidays listening to many of your guests on the Best of Series for 2024 that I skipped during the year. I still have about 6 episodes in the cue. This was an amazing “conversation” that I never wanted to end. I would have kept listening if this was 5 hours long. Great job to the both of you. The best “conversation” that I can remember in a long time and I was laughing and smiling the whole time. Thank you and I look forward to many more conversations like this in 2025. This episode will be a tough one to beat! ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Great interview! Thank you Rick & Mark. I especially enjoyed the exchange and insight about whether Mark was/is an "alcoholic" and should attend AA or not. Rich was extremely gracious with his advice and personal experience on the matter My brother is a recovering alcoholic and the exchange hit the heart in the best way possible. Thank you both, gentlemen.
Bro was like “you think you might be an alcoholic…go find out for sure” lol
Can’t believe he suggested that. Questions should have been how hard was it to quit drinking ? Why did you quit ? Many others.
You probably don't understand because you're not an alcoholic... most alcoholics who haven't recovered will do the opposite of whats suggested... so it's really using reverse psychology on someone who has an addiction problem
That was such a good talk! Real, vulnerable and on point in so many subjects! I have to agree on the view of California as a place with a lot of superficial and instagramable self help community. I struggle a lot of find the real deal among all of that!
Hey rich, great episode. I actually love it when you get unhinged and laugh a lot and joke. It's the most entertaining and a joy to witness. Btw, I've been a listener for years and I appreciate your integrity and warm warm heart. ❤love from Atlanta.
That was just fun and chill. Great convo!
I am so grateful for the both of you.. the valuable lessons and insites that I took away from this is very much appreciated
Stay light and fluffy !!
Nancy G
Just read his book last month, which then lead me to the outstanding (and difficult) "The Denial of Death" by Ernest Becker.
Thank you Rich for always having enlightening guest and your excellent conversational skills.
This episode was amazing!! Need a podcast of just you twoo talking lol such a fun conversation 🎉
Love you guys and what a great conversation.
I have gone to a Tony Robbin’s even (for work) and I did not feel happier after and I am a pretty happy person on a normal day. I think the community of affluent goers become happier because they use it as networking. The advice in my opinion was junk. They had an entire segment about drinking water it was life changing🙄. What I think he sells is an image or an idea that if you go to his seminars you will become wealthy and I believe it’s that promise that keeps people going back and spending what money they have to be part of an “elite” group. He is not self help. He is a snake oil salesman. Just to add some positivity to this comment, I truly enjoyed this conversation. Thank you for the authenticity.
Not about helping self...it's about helping others. That's how we heal/change from the inside out
Good stuff! I've been enjoying Mark's podcast - nice to see him on RRP.
Two dream guests for my podcast. Excited to dive into this one
Loved it so much! “Willingness is like a gift from God”, yes, it is! So much to reflect on after this episode
rich, thank you for a great interview
Great episode. Loved the casual conversation and non-regurgitated assemblage of stories. Ty
Really enjoyed this conversation, thank you both 🌻
i read The Subtle Art twice. I got more out of it the second time. I think because I read Gary John Bishop's books around the same time the first go-round. I just felt his books resonated more with me. The second time, however, I really enjoyed it through and through and took notes, marked pages and wanted to pay more attention to his points. Everybody really needs to apply this whole concept to their lives. Everybody honestly cares too much about everything and the stupid shit that just consumes our brains that creates anxiety. His relaxed attitude is refreshing. 😊 Know what you want to do and not do and stand up for that. 👍
Great convo on community, identity and self-awareness. Thanks guys.
Every self-help "guru" is now saying F self-help because it lost its gravity. Come on grifters
I found you in the self-help section. Thank you for your blog ten years ago. I loved it.
I LOVED this episode, so much resonated and it was fun... you guys should do more together
This conversation is so refreshing 🤩
I really enjoyed this thank you for this!
Great interview gents. Listening in from Australia 🇦🇺🦘
"The subtle art of not giving a f***" was published in 2016 (it was Mark's 2nd book, first was "Models - attracting women through honesty and emotional vulnerability) and has by now sold a hard to believe 20 million copies ! That's downright incredible .
this instead of news, yippee happy monday
Loved this episode.
Read his book. So good!
Re Tony Robbins: I’ve been following him on and off since 1990s when my sales manager required we complete one of the tape sets. Did “Get the Edge” and even saw him at a sales rah rah. I agree his brilliance is creating community, but he really focuses on changing your “state” to be as positive as possible to receive information. Community, music, and dancing do that. He then delivers the message to a happy audience.
Also, I am one of those who can change desired personalities (or desires to change personalities). I call it willingness to grow and evolve. I’m not the same person my entire life. I love learning about how we humans are programmed. It’s work to take the best and leave the rest. But fun work!
Real fun 🤩 enjoyed it
Is this just a commercial for Mark Manson's new podcast? This feels like an infomercial
I’m going to guess you didn’t listen to the whole thing.
He reminds me of me five years and a few months ago.
…intelligence turns on itself…the smart person is a tough customer… all of these things…make intelligence the enemy of the growth that you seek…
im in love with both of them awwww
One of the reasons why conscious folks in LA are obsessed with self-help is because it’s so difficult to live there.
There is a Tommy Tiernan show in Ireland , you should look it up -He welcomes mystery guests every week picked by his team and has to interview them with no preparation-sometimes he knows them and sometimes he doesn’t but it always makes me great viewing 😊
When I’m at a point where my mind goes.. yeah you’re a bit boring now.. (meaning I’m bored) it’s time to push and keep going 🤣🤣.. I’m not used to the stability, I’ve been chaotic! Neurotic (ADHD) and honestly the boring stuff makes me want to cry, feels like I’m dying (so dramatic 😂😮💨) working on it 😅 xxxx
This episode was a lot of drivel, especially the first half with Mark bashing the self-help world that is his and Rich's bread and butter with Rich eagerly agreeing with Mark's overly broad critiques. It's both easy and pointless to make such generalized attacks. For a bit it sounded like Mark had Rich's wife Julie/SriMati (her type, not her specifically) as one of the many types of gurus he can't stand. That made Rich's concurrence even more cringe worthy. They did zone in on critiquing Tony Robbins at one point--which was at least specific. In the second half or so Mark got more real about his own life and came across as a human with all of the same issues as the rest of us (which of course is true). I listened while driving. I suspect (and hope) that Mark isn't as shallow as he came across in this conversation. This was not the best of Rich Roll.
Cool interview (hangout) I'm definitely checking out the book.
2 Great youtuber/writer in the same frame
This was real, thanks.
What a thought provoking question. Does the impulsiveness get solved or redirected 😅!
Manson looks like a Greek statue now in a good way looks great
Rich, you're not too serious. Just stay who and what you are.
Bit contradictory… half way in “anxious people are just anxious people, accept who you are and move on”…. End of interview, “people with Identity Flexibility can change and improve the most”. Which is it?
Maybe anxious people don’t have identity flexibility.
TH-cam is super! The information on it is priceless. Sad that so many people have not discovered its value yet.
True. And sad there isn't more diversity in the space too. That would help up the game of conversations between folks who are different.
😂 everyone has an opinion on Tony Robbins especially those who have never attended an event.
I’ve been to many Tony Robbins events. And yes we danced and it was sooooo much fun. But the dancing and socializing isn’t the magic. Tony has the ability to teach YOU to believe YOU can be better. The movement helps the inspiration become muscle memory. Thanks for the reminder while I was writing this.
The first self help book that I read was Unlimited Power in 2013 when I was 24 and lost. I remember seeing the book at a local thrift store, not knowing who Tony Robbins is. The simplicity of the cover, a black cover with bold red and white font that reads Unlimited Power got my immediate attention. Words cannot describe the value I got from this book. I became so fascinated by self help that I read many self help books. Majority of them did not provide anywhere near as much helpful content as Unlimited Power. The only exception is Dale Carnegie’s two main books. I also followed Tony’s Personal Power 2 audio program which had so much value. Robbins is filled with energy, he reaches people from the most positive approach and the most caring approach. You get a sense that he cares about you, even if you never once met him. He communicates in a way that triggers motivation and inspiration unlike anyone else. That is the reason he is as successful as he is and I recommend anyone and everyone to indulge into his content if you are looking to take a nose dive into personal development.
He's still the one getting richer, not the attendees...
Agree that these "helpers" often help you have a good time, replacing a moment with a good friend.
literally tony doesnt try to take credit and he straight up tells you that by moving your body, dancing, shouting etc gets you into another state. he aint trying to pull the wool over anyones eyes. sounds like they watched 3 tik toks on the guy...
thanks, ive seen this coming but it helps me to process when someone articulates and i have visual cues
you guys give me hope that america will one day be sane again
As someone who used to be anxious, who is no longer that anxious thanks to somatic therapy, I disagree with some of Mark’s definitive statements. Sure there’s parts of my personality that may never change, but you can rewire your nervous system to be rooted in the ventral vagal more often and feel less anxious.
Halfway through this interview, I think I’ve heard enough…. Here’s a guy who has a podcast all about the things that people are doing that aren’t helping them and he’s monetizing criticizing how other people are living their lives… I say “get your own life.” I can’t count how many times he has said I’m not really putting them down while he’s putting them down. You’re making money off of it dude,don’t complain.
Exactly. In the second half he stopped putting down his very own industry and got more real about his own life. Still, I was underwhelmed. I mean at times it was interesting listening to the two of them bro out. At the very end Mark mentioned his deep immersion in Buddhism when he was a younger man, that piqued my interest, but it was more of an aside. A lot of frothy-ness in this episode.
Our self-help dream team. 😉❤
Good one 👍
Brain synaps docking difficulties causes the pursuit of dopamine HITS ,just like Alcohol, Herion , Weed and $$$$. Good luck to both you gentlemen with YOUR addictions ❤. Don't die chasing ❤😂 !
Absolutely brilliant podcast...totally "real" and "authentic". I can honestly say, one of my all time favorites. I didn't want this to end. Hope to see you both back together soon. This was amazing, thank YOU both 😘😘
This seems to be a great conversation I was able take very little
The efficacy of tracking is certainly real for me.
Yayyyy! Go Mark!!!! 🎉🎉🎉🎉
Isn't just "doing the shit that works" also a form of helping yourself? Therefore it can be defined as self help, right? Anything that helps yourself can be called self help, and this type of over analytical and judgemental conversation of how different folks go about helping others and helping themselves I find to be condescending and insulting, what's the use in judging and condemning others who go about helping themselves in a way that you personally don't agree with? Just be and let be.
@jamesm28 It's dripping with with that LA high earner status vibe. Feel sorry for the Mark dude who grew up differently. Rich idk
@@crbradbury8282 yeah, he's like "So when you decide to get fit, a lot of it is about your personal trainer and your relationship with them." OK . . .
Not all “self help” producers create value. It could be argued that there are many. This is the point. If you don’t analyze what you internalize you let false beliefs materialize.
@@djo6198 Isn't it up to the individual themselves to determine what value they find and what helps and what doesn't help them? What might be a false belief to you might not be a false belief to another. To each their own, and if something helps someone then I am all for it, regardless if another thinks it's a false belief or not.
perhaps the question to ask yourself is, do you believe all the people in this space are actually trying to help you? If you do, I’d encourage you to do some honest research and see for yourself. Some individuals are easy prey for some of the so called self help “gurus”. For those people, info like this is a PSA. Beware, not all these people have your best interest in mind and it’s for this reason that I agree with what they are saying. I consider this warning to very helpful and a reminder of the reality that some of these people are taking advantage of other people. To me, that doesn’t fall into the just let them be category. If you choose to believe that a sticker of Mickey Mouse will cure your cancer… you have a right to choose that. As a friend I’d say, you may want to reconsider based on this data. If you tell desperate people that they should pay you $1000 for your Mickey Mouse sticker because you believe it cures cancer then you are - hurting- people by taking their money that should be appropriated to more proven healing methodologies and legal action should be taken against you or you should be corrected in some form. This is the point of their conversation. If you’re offended by it, that’s totally fine. You may want to ask yourself… why.
Best duo! ❤
Suasidel msn off in the distance KNOWS the pieces fit ❤ ! Opened his heart to reveal ALL ❤ ! Many miles away will walk again and decto STAY ❤ ! DON'T DIE ❤ ! Its AMAZING ! Once you see❤ !
interesting....intelligent person, questioning culture of self help (rightly in a way...) but also perhaps a symptom there is something in need of healing but too painful to admit. self help, church is silly but seeing it in reverse: the thing that he fears the most and 'intelligently' attacking it so he doesnt have to go there. church, self help are just tools to guide us through heartache when we are willing to begin that process. yes it all can appear silly when taken to extreme like anything else. just a tool kit tho---for which i am most grateful when the heartache is really intense. the tools a hand hold to get to the other side.
Tony Robbins may be an alien but he's said/written some good things over the years. And I say that having never been to one of his seminars. Just remember to listen to a little Alan Watts after each TR session.
Nice slippers Rich🎉
Been listening for 1.5 hours… not getting a lot of value from this one. Would love to hear more tips/tools applicable to my life… this seemed more like these two guys giving eachother pats on the back the whole time. His life is very specific, so it doesn’t translate to what most of us are doing lol
I love disclaimers saying 99% of people will never make it, dont know, are this ignorant or that ignorant, but YOU could be of of the 1%. Awesome! The funny truth is one of the hidden not so hidden goals in life is be better than other people. And one way to be better as other people is having people that listen to you, that you can indluence. And that is way so many podcaster claim they have found their purpose (and you as the listener kind of have not). well if the pupose is that people listen to you and you can influence them and make them believe you have a better life than them , then congrats:)
The podcasting indrustry is NOW , the new FUCKING MATRIX 😢❤! Good Luck . ❤❤Decentralization ❤Don't die ❤!
BREAKING NEWS 22:26 : Texan hates on California!
Crazytown can be a very fun place to visit! Just be cognizant of what street you choose to walk down and limit the amount of time you spend there.
Also, keep in mind that Crazytown, for the tin hat club, is a US political convention. LOL. =)
Rich Roll Your the best!!
individuality is common
Didn't some university research Tony Robbins' work and found it more successful than any other anti-depression intervention? I find him inauthentic too and wouldn't go to his seminars. But I think his actual work might be effective for those interested.
One Day Time 🌅💙👣
This is the way. ✝⬆🌅