It's interesting that someone so knowledgeable would not know how to properly pronounce "coriolis", and "muzzle". He clearly says "corliolis" and "muscle". You'd think this dude who probably does tours like this several times a day, would know how pronounce those words properly. Edit: LMAO uhh it's a year later and ya'll keep replying to me, so yeah, I'm gonna keep rresponding back. You TH-cam commentators are the cream-of-the-special-education-crop. Jesus christ you all must have aspergers or ASD or something and teacher left you alone on the class computer to get mad at people who are both smarter and wittier than you. God damn. Well, keep 'em coming, losers. This guy sucks and so do you.
@@robotslug Do you mean _placing_ an order, or _taking_ an order? Because when you _make_ an order, you use your hands, not your voice. If you're gonna try to insult someone based on them insulting someone else which has no effect on you, at least do it right.
That computer was designed by using slide rules. it makes the moon landing deniers look that much more ignorant. NASA engineers basically went to the moon using steampunk technology.
I'm just totally blown away by these computers! They're like having clocks that control clocks that control clocks or something. All of that calculating is done with gears and wheels, which is so so much more impressive than some silicon, though the density of transistors in the latter is amazing. I don't know what integrating is in a mathematical sense, but I believe these analog computers use "ball and disc integrators", which by themselves are very clever devices.
Those guns were so accurate that in the 80s when they modernized the Iowa class battleships they didn't replace the old analog targeting system for the guns.
The best part is that it isn’t even just a case of “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it”. They researched replacing the computers with digital/electronic ones in the 80s, and were told that with the level of redundancy and accuracy required it wouldn’t save any space, power, or money
I had read back in the 90's that there was an attempt to replace the analog with digital. The results led to the decision to leave well enough alone. The analogs performance could not be matched by digital.
Mine had rust in the rifling! I said I wanted them relined and they said it would take 6 months and to just fire a few rounds thru each and that would take care of it...
Usually when you accidentally tap a trigger you send a round down range and get a stern talking to. Worst case you kill somebody. You accidentally tap this trigger, and you're a war criminal.
He's much more enthusiastic than the guide I had, but he didn't mention that the "triggers" are fired through the gyroscopic computer which ensures the gun are at the correct elevation when actually fired. In heavy seas it can take a second or two for the training mechanisms to catch up with the roll of the ship and fire the guns.
@TheEnd not that it is any of your business but no, I'm 19 & quite enjoy being a schmuck an douchebag on the internet. why does my age concern you? what would my age really change, exactly? the internet is about having fun, if picking arguments on the web gives me joy, why does this concern you or anybody else for that matter? what are you, the YT commenter police?
I attend church with a guy who served on the New Jersey at the end of WWII and then Korea. I could sit by the hour listening to his stories. He was boiler tech.
Jesus dude, those guys were in some shit. I went onto the USS Yorktown, saw the boiler rooms and saw old footage. These guys would work in 120 or so degrees, sometimes hotter. You're in a cramped space, with poor ventilation. Granted, I observed air ducts pointed towards the stations. Though I suspect they're more modern implements to keep the tour goers cool. If they suspected a steam leak, they were to grab a broom so they could locate the leak. They would find it when the bristles of the broom instantly vaporized. It wasn't easy work. The things our ancestors had to go through..most adversity today pales in comparison.
I worked on merchant ships in the engine room for most of my working life. I know heat and shit and sweat - but at no time was anyone trying to kill me. A bomb or torpedo in the engine room will kill the entire watch - a near miss could fracture a high pressure steam line or feedwater line and cook everyone in that compartment. In my early days I sailed with men who had been on the Atlantic and Northern Russian convoys and they had very little to tell because their memories were too horrific to recall. I also visited WW2 era Royal Navy ships and witnessed the long dogs on the outside of the watertight compartments to stop anyone getting out of a rapidly flooding space and jeopardising the ship. Join the Navy and see the world.
@@coryaw95 my dad was a BT from 51-55 on a DE and an APD (converted DE). he told me of when they were doing gunnery practice off Vieque Island and the ventilation broke down. over 150o with a 10 minute watch rotation. 10 in the hole, 10 to come up to the deck for air then repeat. and then the time in the North Atlantic escorting the USS Mindoro (escort carrier) in november in a storm where the blowers were bringing in such frigid air they had difficulty breathing. they had to stand with their backs to the boilers.
I love the people commenting about how its not a 50 caliber gun. The title doesn't say 50 caliber it says 16 inch 50 caliber which means the diameter of the gun is 16 inches and the length of the gun is 50 calibers which means it is 50 x the diameter or 50x16 inches
my dad was re-assigned to the USS New Jersey... after shot down from carrier duty... he loved this ship like all of those who served on it... i found out anyone who has served on this great ship and passed away there is a roll call memorial.it took me a month and half to get him on the list which is where he will be forever in history
I heard about that originally when I was stationed on Okinawa in 1973, I was told that New Jersey was taking fire from an old Japanese bunker and shore battery position that the NVA had taken over and mounted guns in. They damaged a couple of cruisers, or so I was told. You have to admit that to a land lubber an Iowa class BB in profile looks a bit like a Baltimore class CA so it's likely the North Vietnamese had no idea what it was they were pissing off. They missed, New Jersey didn't. The story teller said that when New Jersey was dismantling that installation one of her 16" rounds found the gun emplacement magazine. It went up and the island topography was seriously rearranged. Still very impressive.
There's a tremendous difference between for instance a german museum ship and an US one, especially the great NJ: You'll get a REAL tour there, here you'll get a signs, with luck a shallow description from someone, but as everyone can see on the mighty NJ everbody really has an experience. That stucks with him / her. Awesome. Exemplary. Many museums around the world can learn from you guys, in my humble opinion. When I'm back in the states, 2022, I'll visit you with my family. I'm very excited, my wife not so much ("Another military museum? ooh-kaaaay"), but she will understand when she watches this ;) Thank you all for preserving LIVING history, that's so so important!
Did you get the heated trigger grips option with yours? I went & head n’ splurged on myself a little cuz not only did I get em’ heated but also cooled. Fuel mileage is piss poor on her though but whatev…
In case it hasn't been mentioned, the US built nuclear shells for the Iowa-class battleships main guns. They were the W23 warhead. Yield was 15-20 kilotons, a total of 50 units being produced. Production of the W23 began in 1956 and they were in service until 1962.
that fire control computer is truly a thing of beauty. all mechanical analog computing that's robust and reliable, I hope the knowledge to make such devices isn't lost.
Yeah I rolled my eyes at that question, too. That has nothing to do with Coriolis effect. (It's not even true that draining water circulates one way in the Northern hemisphere and the other way in the Southern)
I don't think anyone recognizes how good of a tour guide this man is. He clearly picked out a couple of people there that might not have been paying attention, and got them involved and engaged in what was happening. Not everyone is good with books. My wife can't remember anything she learned from a history class, but she still remembers things she learned when we toured HMCS Haida because it was something she got to see, touch, experience. That can make a difference. Good news, I'm planning to come visit New Jersey and a bunch of other ships from western Canada probably next year or the year after. Can't wait
Fascinating to hear such a detailed description of the process used in firing the New Jersey’s big 16 inch guns and the technology of long ago which was apparently very sophisticated for that era.
Good enough that they didnt replace it during the 80's modernization for the simple fact that no electronic fire control system we had in the 80's was as reliable and accurate as this engineering marvel in and of itself invented some 50 years prior.
I heard a computer science gut was tasked during the modernization of these ships to come up with a better fire control system. After extensive research he wrote back and said 'Forget about it"!
It was incredibly sophisticated. All done mechanically with very precisely-machined gears and gyros. And it still worked perfectly fifty years later to the point where they didn't bother to retrofit a fancier digital computer system onto the guns. I do wonder how many spare parts they had available though in the 1980s-90s for the recommissioning.
All these people commenting about how it’s says 50 cal and how is wrong lmao no it is correct. The cal doesn’t only stand for diameter of but in this case the length of the gun in relation to diameter. So since it is a 16 inch gun (406mm) and the cal is 50, that means the gun is 50 times as long as it is wide. 16x50 is 800. The gun is 800 inches long.
On DDGs We had a room packed full of analog computing equipment like this, synchros, servos, integrators and the like, after the upgrade there was a small digital computer inside this cavernous empty room.
neat piece of history and remarkable for its time,by the way the fancy shmansy new ships have the modern version of the hamster in a wheel crewman its called a ups but i can see how this looked good on the tour
Yeah, if power backup was important then, it's important now. I imagine they have independent battery backup that they use before hand-cranking as a third option -- but that's just a guess.
@@WilliamPitcher Emergency generators as 2 line and backup batteries as third line. But anyways. What he didn't mentioned, if there happens to be a total blackout on the New Jersey (including emergency generators etc.), good luck turning that 2100 tons turret by hand, let alone rising the 121 tons barrel up. That may work with the secondary, but not with the main artillery.
At the Second Naval Battle of Guadalcanal USS South Dakota suffered a power failure just as she was engaging the Japanese formation at night and it shut her down hard, except for propulsion. No way to load, aim and fire the guns, even with a guy turning a hand crank or whatever. The Kirishima and other Japanese ships tried to shoot her up while she struggled, but USS Washington was with her, got a quick radar solution, and turned Kirishima into swiss chees in short order, saving the bacon and winning the battle.
@@judgeomega Legit didn't get notifications for this until I had the video recommended to me again LMAO. But yeah I get you, but the man clearly said "flush your toilets".
It wasn't really accurate tho. He's quite exaggerating it. There's a large margin of error. There's a reason why battleships got obsolete because missiles were more accurate and have a longer range.
@@GriseWeisshark By the standards of the day the MK-8 Rangekeeper was deadly quite accurate. The USS West Virginia fired on the Japanese Battleship Yamashiro at 13 miles and hit her on the FIRST salvo and hit Yamashiro on 6 of the next 7 salvos.
@@CRAZYHORSE19682003 plus dude above failed to notice the mechanical FCS wasn’t even replaced through out its life and 91 when it was retired and electric FCS had been around
World war 2 naval gunnery was a highly intricate and delicate business. Took tremendous efforts for guns to be laid on target and even greater efforts to enable them to hit the enemy. And so easy to breakdown from mechanical failures or battle damage. No wonder it was quickly replaced mid war by carrier airstrike, which was 100 times simpler!
The technology is actually very interesting (especially the simple salvo alarm, I always wondered about that). It's strange to think how minerals mined from the earth end up becoming these carefully thought up ships, some of which carry planes, all in the purpose of warfare and domination. Somehow these specific designs became the world standard for a while. It's all a continuation from the spear and the shield. The constant audience reactions and comments are something that would be more rare in Finland, just a cultural difference :D
Never got to shoot a gun from a battle ship, but i can say i got to turn the key and launch a nuclear missile at the Titan museum. The tour guides are allways informative and have a great sense of hummor.
I served on New Jersey BB62 from 1985 to 1987. Got to fire the 16" guns locally. It was a rush to day the least. And you just cannot imagine the firepower until you actually see and feel the main battery go off.
Okay, so all the people commenting about the difference between a 16" gun and a 50 Cal, there is none. He was right in his explanation, those are the Mk 7 50 caliber guns. It is 16" wide, and 50 calibers long (406mm guns).
...basic math time...50 x 16 inches does not equal 406 mm. 50x16=800...inches. not mm. 800 inches=66.7 feet ...the length of the gun barrel. 406 mm is less than half a meter in length. Picture, if you will, the 16 inch guns of this battleship, with a length of less than 18 inches. Heck of a mortar though...
@@eaterofclams these are accual guns. what most people call guns are rifles and pistols. rifle and pistol caliber is just that. rifle and pistol, not guns. shot used to be weighed, not measured in a caliber, or tenths of inches. by that scale this would be a 3600 pounder? honestly I think sailors do this because they can. they spend so much time out at sea they get bored and make this stuff up and its always blindingly hot so none of it makes much sense. but damn if they are going to admit anything like that to a stinkin' land lubber.....
Caliber in this naval usage is one bore diameter. And the gun is designated as the 16/50 caliber mark 7. It is 50 calibers(of bore diameter or 50x 16 inches) long. .50 caliber is .5 inches. So 1" is equal to a caliber defined in most Imperial countries before the metric system was widely used.
It's amazing how something built so long ago still could be used in a battle to this day and matter of fact was used in the Persian gulf during the gulf war
Look up caliber definition. It says that in fire arms it refers to to the internal diameter of the firearm. With artillery caliber is multiplied by the diameter and is the length of the bore.
I visited Mt. Pleasant South Carolina and there is a military museum there. Long story short they have a cruiser and even though at the time they had half of that ship blocked off the entire front half of the ship was open for tour. The front turret had a guided tour and it was somewhat like this, you actually got to go inside the turret structure, see the inside of it and the inner workings of it. The amazing part of it was there was a screen like the tv in this video and the entire time you were standing on a platform and when the "fire" order was given the platform shuttered in an example of how it felt when the turrets would shoot.
While he's waiting for the projectiles to fly through the air the enemy is watching them coming in and pissing in their pants knowing there's nothing they can do but brace for impact.
@@sideswipe147 Yes, it dows (e.g. in the bathing tube), but not in the toilet (maybe it does in these strange, water-filled US-toilets). In a "normal" toilet, the water flushing down into the bowl will be affected by gravity and the design of the toilet itself way more than by the Coreolis effect, therefore leaving it negligible. If I am wrong about that, correct me. I am always ready to learn new things.
I love history watching all these videos about world war 1 an 2 then learning about moments that no one knew about 👍 I used to tell all my friends in school about what I learned watching old real war movies lol I really got them interested so they would listen every time lol
Target motion analysis and obtaining a firing solution. Forty years ago I had to study the formula that the mechanical computer works out. For a promotion exam.
Hurricanes do. It's just that the Coriolis effect is maybe a ten millionth of gravity. So, it shows up in large weather systems. Toilets rotate the way the water is jetted into it. If you had a perfect basin and perfectly still water, it would rotate the same as hurricanes. The effect, though, is minimal for a few pounds of water. The showman in Kenya who step back and forth over the equator and have the water switch rotation direction are fakes and manipulate the angle the water is introduced into the bowl.
There is a crazy amount of data that is taken into account when firing long range artillery. Propellant temperature, weight of the projectile, air pressure at multiple elevations, firing unit's location, the target's location, condition of the inside of the gun tube, even the curvature of the Earth for very long range shots. When I was at the Artillery School at Ft Sill we learned to calculate it with slide rules, protractors, and firing tables on pen and paper before we got to use a firing computer.
the Coriolis affecting toilet water flushing is a total myth. it does affect projectile paths, but the direction a toilet flushes is a function of design, not spin direction.
@@CousinBowling my complaint is that he is perpetuating the spread of misinformation so that they can 'get it'. and incidentally by causation when they do get it they get the wrong 'it'. this is the thing that drives me nuts about the public education system. most of the crap kids learn in school isn't even close to accurate. they teach to approximations and memorizations. stupidity isn't something you're born with it is something that is taught... I'm saying we need to stop teaching stupidity.
@@Unmannedair They're learning about a ww2 firing computer, not toilets. If he were teaching about how toilets worked to UT's or whatnot, that information would be misleading as hell. But the use of it as an example here is so he doesn't go into a full blown lecture on the Coriolis effect, which in essence would end up wasting time and potentially end up with none of them understanding.
@@Unmannedair uh how did you get a simple example a lot of people may know which is half the definition of a myth and put it with the public education system? Myths are myths and will spread
Most people don't understand that toilet manufacturers determine the way water flows in a toilet by the way they place the "jet" let alone the Coriolis effect.
That is the MK-1 or 1A fire control computer used directing the guns on US naval vessels. I worked for NAVSUP when the battleships were being restored and had to procure spare/repair parts for that computer. I can assure you they do not make them like that any more. It was very difficult and had to salvage many parts from old mothballed ship and museum pieces, have them refurbished and tested.
I did a detailed tour of the USS Lexington (CV16) and it was awesome. I got to see the boilers, more of the engine room, secondary conn, pilots briefing room, etc. Im am going to be touring USS Iowa this summer and am bummed I dont have enough time to do the turret crawl.
In 1986, the US Coast Guard cutter Ingham (WWII vintage) was participating in REFTRA (Refresher Training) gunnery exercises along side some modern navy vessels. There was a simulated power outage and on the INGHAM we were still able to fire our 5"/38 guns when the Navy vessels could not. When all was said and done, we eeked-out a slightly higher score than the modern naval vessels!
I went round and round with a civilian editor about the designation of naval guns. She argued that a particular gun could be either 5" or 30 caliber, but couldn't be both. Took me forever to make this well-educated idiot understand that 5" was the bore and 30 calibers was the length of the barrel. Only reason this old doggie knew was my half-brother was a Chief Gunner's Mate (Guns)
I'm not a big Navy buff ..I love WW2 planes But to understand Airpower you have to understand sea power as many battles were from flight decks. Watching .. I fell in love with The Big "E" And the Cleveland class ships along with the New Jersey and the Japanese BB/CV. ISE I been to the Philppines seen Leyte Gulf The guns of Manila @ intramoros and Rizal park where the famous last stand of the Japanese took in a dug out on a baseball field My next History trip will take me to Buffalo N.Y. to see the USS Little Rock The last Cleveland class cruiser afloat She never seen WW2 and sadly the only ship she ever hit was the USS Missouri with a misfired 5 inch star shell killing a crew member
It’s intoxicating listening to someone who is not only knowledgable but
who also loves what he’s doing.
It's interesting that someone so knowledgeable would not know how to properly pronounce "coriolis", and "muzzle". He clearly says "corliolis" and "muscle". You'd think this dude who probably does tours like this several times a day, would know how pronounce those words properly.
Edit: LMAO uhh it's a year later and ya'll keep replying to me, so yeah, I'm gonna keep rresponding back. You TH-cam commentators are the cream-of-the-special-education-crop. Jesus christ you all must have aspergers or ASD or something and teacher left you alone on the class computer to get mad at people who are both smarter and wittier than you. God damn. Well, keep 'em coming, losers. This guy sucks and so do you.
@@kind2311 I bet you stutter when making an order at Wendys.
@@robotslug Do you mean _placing_ an order, or _taking_ an order? Because when you _make_ an order, you use your hands, not your voice.
If you're gonna try to insult someone based on them insulting someone else which has no effect on you, at least do it right.
@@kind2311 P-P-Pickles?!
@@kind2311 shut up
The fact that the computer calculated that all in 1938 is amazing
There are some really good videos on YT about fire control and analog computers.. makes you think about computers in a different way.
That computer was designed by using slide rules.
it makes the moon landing deniers look that much more ignorant.
NASA engineers basically went to the moon using steampunk technology.
It's also sad that for we humans, we are at our most creative when figuring out how to kill each other
@@Belioyt Getting rounds on target before your opponent does is a powerful impetus for technological improvement
I'm just totally blown away by these computers! They're like having clocks that control clocks that control clocks or something. All of that calculating is done with gears and wheels, which is so so much more impressive than some silicon, though the density of transistors in the latter is amazing.
I don't know what integrating is in a mathematical sense, but I believe these analog computers use "ball and disc integrators", which by themselves are very clever devices.
Those guns were so accurate that in the 80s when they modernized the Iowa class battleships they didn't replace the old analog targeting system for the guns.
Why replace something that is so accurate and can takes a lot bother
And they used rc planes to make sure the shells were falling on target and it make even better adjustments
The best part is that it isn’t even just a case of “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it”. They researched replacing the computers with digital/electronic ones in the 80s, and were told that with the level of redundancy and accuracy required it wouldn’t save any space, power, or money
They had them dialed in, plus those munitions are so large a little circular error probability isn't much of a problem because of the blast radius.
I had read back in the 90's that there was an attempt to replace the analog with digital. The results led to the decision to leave well enough alone. The analogs performance could not be matched by digital.
Just picked up my battleship! Good to know! they didnt show this at the dealership
if it helps i have the M113 Ops manual which has the manual included for the .50cal LOL
you can't get armed battleships in canada :(
Did you opt for the ClearCoat? I didn't. I think they rip you off on the ClearCoat.
Mine had rust in the rifling! I said I wanted them relined and they said it would take 6 months and to just fire a few rounds thru each and that would take care of it...
Did you actually like for real buy a battle ship?
2:14 Trigger Discipline. 👍🏻
*cough cough buzzfeed libtards*
@@charliemannion2718 whaaat?? Hahahaha.
Friend Chicken watch this: th-cam.com/video/-t6HDWZIz5A/w-d-xo.html
More specifically the 2:58 mark
Usually when you accidentally tap a trigger you send a round down range and get a stern talking to. Worst case you kill somebody. You accidentally tap this trigger, and you're a war criminal.
3:06 anyone notice the guy saying “I have the strangest erection right now”
fcken sent it
LOL :D
Yup
Lmao.
Me and him have something in common.... oh wait not anymore I just finished.
He's much more enthusiastic than the guide I had, but he didn't mention that the "triggers" are fired through the gyroscopic computer which ensures the gun are at the correct elevation when actually fired. In heavy seas it can take a second or two for the training mechanisms to catch up with the roll of the ship and fire the guns.
jth877 that's pretty cool shit.
The gentleman in this video was the former curator of the ship.
He did 4:10
He mentioned it was roll compensation
I don't remember my guide being very enthusiastic about it. We did go through all of the demos allthough it wasn't in this much detail.
i love how this guy engages the crowd and is enthusiastic with his presentation.
thats what presenters do for a living. literally everyone that works with crowds does this, if no they will not have that job for very long.
@@unfortunately_fortunate2000 little late on the explanation, eh bud?
@@unfortunately_fortunate2000 Hahaha! I love it!! Stay cool, ya fuckin' hoser
Lmao
@TheEnd not that it is any of your business but no, I'm 19 & quite enjoy being a schmuck an douchebag on the internet. why does my age concern you? what would my age really change, exactly? the internet is about having fun, if picking arguments on the web gives me joy, why does this concern you or anybody else for that matter? what are you, the YT commenter police?
:slaps the fire control system
“ you can sink so many islands with this bad boy”
I attend church with a guy who served on the New Jersey at the end of WWII and then Korea. I could sit by the hour listening to his stories. He was boiler tech.
Jesus dude, those guys were in some shit. I went onto the USS Yorktown, saw the boiler rooms and saw old footage. These guys would work in 120 or so degrees, sometimes hotter. You're in a cramped space, with poor ventilation. Granted, I observed air ducts pointed towards the stations. Though I suspect they're more modern implements to keep the tour goers cool.
If they suspected a steam leak, they were to grab a broom so they could locate the leak. They would find it when the bristles of the broom instantly vaporized.
It wasn't easy work. The things our ancestors had to go through..most adversity today pales in comparison.
I worked on merchant ships in the engine room for most of my working life. I know heat and shit and sweat - but at no time was anyone trying to kill me. A bomb or torpedo in the engine room will kill the entire watch - a near miss could fracture a high pressure steam line or feedwater line and cook everyone in that compartment. In my early days I sailed with men who had been on the Atlantic and Northern Russian convoys and they had very little to tell because their memories were too horrific to recall. I also visited WW2 era Royal Navy ships and witnessed the long dogs on the outside of the watertight compartments to stop anyone getting out of a rapidly flooding space and jeopardising the ship. Join the Navy and see the world.
@@coryaw95 Superheated steam can't be seen, unlike saturated steam. How do I know this, used to help operate a side wheel paddle steamer.
@@coryaw95 my dad was a BT from 51-55 on a DE and an APD (converted DE). he told me of when they were doing gunnery practice off Vieque Island and the ventilation broke down. over 150o with a 10 minute watch rotation. 10 in the hole, 10 to come up to the deck for air then repeat. and then the time in the North Atlantic escorting the USS Mindoro (escort carrier) in november in a storm where the blowers were bringing in such frigid air they had difficulty breathing. they had to stand with their backs to the boilers.
Neighbor was a boiler operator on the CV-12 in Vietnam, those guys always have some cool tales!
The guy holding the firing triggers is where my Father stood during WWII. He's the guy that made the Big Guns go BOOM on the Iowa!!
i'd probably say RIP everytime i fired those guns
YEAH WELL MY MOM WORKS AT TAMPA BAY HOOTERS
Damn that's sick
@@caballopalido hell yeah buddy
So your father could have killed thousands of people, impressive.
I love the people commenting about how its not a 50 caliber gun. The title doesn't say 50 caliber it says 16 inch 50 caliber which means the diameter of the gun is 16 inches and the length of the gun is 50 calibers which means it is 50 x the diameter or 50x16 inches
bingo
@Eric explain why he's wrong
Caliber = the internal diameter or bore of a gun barrel. which is 16" in this case.
50 caliber is 1/2" so are you saying its 16" in diameter and its only 1/2" long?
MIKEDUZZI en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/16%22/50_caliber_Mark_7_gun Read the Wikipedia description. It explains it. :)
my dad was re-assigned to the USS New Jersey... after shot down from carrier duty...
he loved this ship like all of those who served on it...
i found out anyone who has served on this great ship and passed away there is a roll call memorial.it took me a month and half to get him on the list which is where he will be forever in history
Forever, or at least, how long the servers will exist.
Respect 🙏
Or as long as humans are
I was on her for the Vietnam tour. 9/5/68 to 5/5/69. I remember when we took out Tiger Island. 🇺🇸🇺🇸
I heard about that originally when I was stationed on Okinawa in 1973, I was told that New Jersey was taking fire from an old Japanese bunker and shore battery position that the NVA had taken over and mounted guns in. They damaged a couple of cruisers, or so I was told. You have to admit that to a land lubber an Iowa class BB in profile looks a bit like a Baltimore class CA so it's likely the North Vietnamese had no idea what it was they were pissing off. They missed, New Jersey didn't.
The story teller said that when New Jersey was dismantling that installation one of her 16" rounds found the gun emplacement magazine. It went up and the island topography was seriously rearranged. Still very impressive.
Robert F Okinawa ... my first tour before the Jersey, I was with 2/3. They were out of Okinawa. Semper Fi
I was there also, news said the shore line changed. It did look like a different island.
@@randyghilarducci9509 were you on the New Jersey ? I was in 4th division
Jason Hall. BB-62 Curator. RIP you shall be missed.
What? He died? How old? What a shame.
Dan Hillman
He passed away this past summer, he was 43 I believe.
Lost a battle with a brain tumor.
@@illbuyourniknakto bad. so young.
RIP. Those brave battleship sailors will take good care of him up there.
@@illbuyourniknak Damn.
A day later in the news:
"Canada got randomly exploded"
Lol
Canada has the best ground troops in the world my friend =) but yall got the navy on lock
@@kikoredog 2 rite my (possibly) fellow canadian
kikoredog Notice how he made a joke. And didn’t insult Canada? So why did you get butthurt?
kikoredog America beats every other country
There's a tremendous difference between for instance a german museum ship and an US one, especially the great NJ: You'll get a REAL tour there, here you'll get a signs, with luck a shallow description from someone, but as everyone can see on the mighty NJ everbody really has an experience. That stucks with him / her. Awesome. Exemplary. Many museums around the world can learn from you guys, in my humble opinion. When I'm back in the states, 2022, I'll visit you with my family. I'm very excited, my wife not so much ("Another military museum? ooh-kaaaay"), but she will understand when she watches this ;) Thank you all for preserving LIVING history, that's so so important!
Thanks I’ve had my battleship for about 9 months now just now figuring it out, finally got to the guns and needed to look up a tutorial thanks!
Did you get the heated trigger grips option with yours? I went & head n’ splurged on myself a little cuz not only did I get em’ heated but also cooled. Fuel mileage is piss poor on her though but whatev…
In case it hasn't been mentioned, the US built nuclear shells for the Iowa-class battleships main guns.
They were the W23 warhead. Yield was 15-20 kilotons, a total of 50 units being produced.
Production of the W23 began in 1956 and they were in service until 1962.
Bro 15kt is the equivalent to the bombs at Hiroshima and Nagasaki wtf
Some days you just didn’t really feel like expending more than 3 shells to take out an enemy ship.
Jason Hall. RIP. True historian. God Speed.
He died?
@@HotGlahbi Summer 2018
That was really sad 😔 too here that
My, my, my. The gear on the New Jersey is incredible for the 1940’s and still in excellent condition. Good for the USA for saving these beautiful BB’s
Truly state of the art in 38.. used until the 90s shows that the system worked and need no upgraded
Old school analog technology I love it!
This guide is awesome. Love the story about the Navy sinking the island.
that fire control computer is truly a thing of beauty.
all mechanical analog computing that's robust and reliable, I hope the knowledge to make such devices isn't lost.
“When you flush your toilet which direction does the water go?”
Down.
So what happens if you are traveling directly over the equator - hmmmm? chaos!
Yeah I rolled my eyes at that question, too. That has nothing to do with Coriolis effect. (It's not even true that draining water circulates one way in the Northern hemisphere and the other way in the Southern)
@@seanbreheny9777 it is only true if your toilet is various kms in diameter.
What did the guy in the video reply after which everyone started laughing?
I heard "Red Bull light" but that doesn't make sense
You mean the captain doesn't just go "Mr Worf, quantum torpedoes, fire!"?
he probably could
Well he’s the captain they probably have to
Well he hasn't been born yet
Ah a fellow trekkie
I think you meant photon torpedoes.
Outstanding vid. Terrific explanation of how the big guns are managed
I don't think anyone recognizes how good of a tour guide this man is. He clearly picked out a couple of people there that might not have been paying attention, and got them involved and engaged in what was happening. Not everyone is good with books. My wife can't remember anything she learned from a history class, but she still remembers things she learned when we toured HMCS Haida because it was something she got to see, touch, experience. That can make a difference.
Good news, I'm planning to come visit New Jersey and a bunch of other ships from western Canada probably next year or the year after. Can't wait
During the tour of the USS Iowa the guide indicated that the bow and stern could be blown off but the center fire control would still be operational
Fascinating to hear such a detailed description of the process used in firing the New Jersey’s big 16 inch guns and the technology of long ago which was apparently very sophisticated for that era.
And they still work...
Good enough that they didnt replace it during the 80's modernization for the simple fact that no electronic fire control system we had in the 80's was as reliable and accurate as this engineering marvel in and of itself invented some 50 years prior.
I heard a computer science gut was tasked during the modernization of these ships to come up with a better fire control system. After extensive research he wrote back and said 'Forget about it"!
It was incredibly sophisticated. All done mechanically with very precisely-machined gears and gyros. And it still worked perfectly fifty years later to the point where they didn't bother to retrofit a fancier digital computer system onto the guns. I do wonder how many spare parts they had available though in the 1980s-90s for the recommissioning.
3:26........ youre welcome...
u here?
0:00........... you’re welcome...
are you talking about the girl on the left? Looks like my ex.
@@stingfing412 Right, this guy talking has a lot of character.
What am I looking at?
All these people commenting about how it’s says 50 cal and how is wrong lmao no it is correct. The cal doesn’t only stand for diameter of but in this case the length of the gun in relation to diameter. So since it is a 16 inch gun (406mm) and the cal is 50, that means the gun is 50 times as long as it is wide. 16x50 is 800. The gun is 800 inches long.
After 100 comments, i haven't seen anyone call it .50 cal. I'm not going through all of them. Did you?
@@dalea1691 Well it is in the title (Firing the 16" 50 caliber guns on the Battleship New Jersey)
Protip - ctrl+f for finding text.
Love his attitude so humble and friendly.
The thing about toilet flushing and the Coriolis effect is a modern myth.
On DDGs We had a room packed full of analog computing equipment like this, synchros, servos, integrators and the like, after the upgrade there was a small digital computer inside this cavernous empty room.
neat piece of history and remarkable for its time,by the way the fancy shmansy new ships have the modern version of the hamster in a wheel crewman its called a ups but i can see how this looked good on the tour
Yeah, if power backup was important then, it's important now. I imagine they have independent battery backup that they use before hand-cranking as a third option -- but that's just a guess.
@@WilliamPitcher Emergency generators as 2 line and backup batteries as third line. But anyways. What he didn't mentioned, if there happens to be a total blackout on the New Jersey (including emergency generators etc.), good luck turning that 2100 tons turret by hand, let alone rising the 121 tons barrel up. That may work with the secondary, but not with the main artillery.
At the Second Naval Battle of Guadalcanal USS South Dakota suffered a power failure just as she was engaging the Japanese formation at night and it shut her down hard, except for propulsion. No way to load, aim and fire the guns, even with a guy turning a hand crank or whatever. The Kirishima and other Japanese ships tried to shoot her up while she struggled, but USS Washington was with her, got a quick radar solution, and turned Kirishima into swiss chees in short order, saving the bacon and winning the battle.
I love tour guides like this guy.
This tour guide is excellent at his job. Give him a raise!!
Agree, he is so good and enthusiastic
I love how when people are showing you how things work they like to have fun with it while still teaching you how it works
0:04 BTW this a myth guys, your toilet flushes the other way depending on where the water jets out. It's dependant on the actual toilet.
i think he meant the natural flow of draining water, not a toilet.
What the man said is true . Research and learn .
@@judgeomega Legit didn't get notifications for this until I had the video recommended to me again LMAO. But yeah I get you, but the man clearly said "flush your toilets".
"take a 2700lb object and hit a moving target 22miles away" OUTSTANDING
It wasn't really accurate tho. He's quite exaggerating it. There's a large margin of error. There's a reason why battleships got obsolete because missiles were more accurate and have a longer range.
@@GriseWeisshark By the standards of the day the MK-8 Rangekeeper was deadly quite accurate. The USS West Virginia fired on the Japanese Battleship Yamashiro at 13 miles and hit her on the FIRST salvo and hit Yamashiro on 6 of the next 7 salvos.
@@CRAZYHORSE19682003 plus dude above failed to notice the mechanical FCS wasn’t even replaced through out its life and 91 when it was retired and electric FCS had been around
I watched the New Jersey fire those rounds over us in Nam. The ship was just offshore from us. Amazing.
World war 2 naval gunnery was a highly intricate and delicate business. Took tremendous efforts for guns to be laid on target and even greater efforts to enable them to hit the enemy. And so easy to breakdown from mechanical failures or battle damage. No wonder it was quickly replaced mid war by carrier airstrike, which was 100 times simpler!
The technology is actually very interesting (especially the simple salvo alarm, I always wondered about that). It's strange to think how minerals mined from the earth end up becoming these carefully thought up ships, some of which carry planes, all in the purpose of warfare and domination. Somehow these specific designs became the world standard for a while. It's all a continuation from the spear and the shield.
The constant audience reactions and comments are something that would be more rare in Finland, just a cultural difference :D
Personally, I like the RN firing gongs. Bing Bing.....BOOM!
This man was a absolute legend of a tour guide
What a great teacher/tour guide. Very cool!
Never got to shoot a gun from a battle ship, but i can say i got to turn the key and launch a nuclear missile at the Titan museum. The tour guides are allways informative and have a great sense of hummor.
Love that crank here in case of power loss. Genius for the day and probably this day and age. KISS
"I have the Strangest erection right now"
What a legend
boss* you mean?
Although it's not strange, cause I do.
Buy the 2012 movie "Battleship". If the guns don't do it for you, and the soundtrack doesn't do it for you, both Rhianna and Brooklyn will.
I served on New Jersey BB62 from 1985 to 1987. Got to fire the 16" guns locally. It was a rush to day the least. And you just cannot imagine the firepower until you actually see and feel the main battery go off.
Okay, so all the people commenting about the difference between a 16" gun and a 50 Cal, there is none. He was right in his explanation, those are the Mk 7 50 caliber guns. It is 16" wide, and 50 calibers long (406mm guns).
...basic math time...50 x 16 inches does not equal 406 mm. 50x16=800...inches. not mm. 800 inches=66.7 feet ...the length of the gun barrel. 406 mm is less than half a meter in length. Picture, if you will, the 16 inch guns of this battleship, with a length of less than 18 inches. Heck of a mortar though...
@@eaterofclams I'm not sure if you're trolling or not but 406 mm comes out to... 16 inches. They're 406 mm wide, not long.
THANK YOU
@@eaterofclams these are accual guns. what most people call guns are rifles and pistols. rifle and pistol caliber is just that. rifle and pistol, not guns. shot used to be weighed, not measured in a caliber, or tenths of inches. by that scale this would be a 3600 pounder?
honestly I think sailors do this because they can. they spend so much time out at sea they get bored and make this stuff up and its always blindingly hot so none of it makes much sense. but damn if they are going to admit anything like that to a stinkin' land lubber.....
@@eaterofclams you're absolutely wrong. Delete this comment.
Water in the toilet goes whichever way the toilet was designed. Coriolis effect has nothing to do with how your toilet flushes
Random information matters people
Yes, we physicists know that. But he's trying to explain the plotting rooms account of the coriolis effect quickly, to slightly more simple people :p
th-cam.com/video/4IIVfoDuVIw/w-d-xo.html This is a perfect demonstration that coriolis does have an effect. Or is the earth flat?
@@mercurysmodels6721 those are tourist scams
Old toilets don't do that.
Caliber in this naval usage is one bore diameter. And the gun is designated as the 16/50 caliber mark 7. It is 50 calibers(of bore diameter or 50x 16 inches) long.
.50 caliber is .5 inches. So 1" is equal to a caliber defined in most Imperial countries before the metric system was widely used.
It's amazing how something built so long ago still could be used in a battle to this day and matter of fact was used in the Persian gulf during the gulf war
Brilliant, just a very good informative show.
Look up caliber definition. It says that in fire arms it refers to to the internal diameter of the firearm. With artillery caliber is multiplied by the diameter and is the length of the bore.
Reminds me of the tour guide in the minute man missile silo
Thanks for an amazing explanation !!
I visited Mt. Pleasant South Carolina and there is a military museum there. Long story short they have a cruiser and even though at the time they had half of that ship blocked off the entire front half of the ship was open for tour. The front turret had a guided tour and it was somewhat like this, you actually got to go inside the turret structure, see the inside of it and the inner workings of it. The amazing part of it was there was a screen like the tv in this video and the entire time you were standing on a platform and when the "fire" order was given the platform shuttered in an example of how it felt when the turrets would shoot.
While he's waiting for the projectiles to fly through the air the enemy is watching them coming in and pissing in their pants knowing there's nothing they can do but brace for impact.
Nerd here. The Coriolis Effect is important on big scales like firing from a ship, but it is too weak to affect your toilet water.
Efemral its basically the rotation of the earth which is what effects toilet water.
@@sideswipe147Theoretically, as the Coriolis force is caused by that very rotation of the Earth. Only if Egemral wouldn't be right.
Buffer Buffer ah but it does effect the waters drain rotation. facts are such pesky little things.
@@sideswipe147 Yes, it dows (e.g. in the bathing tube), but not in the toilet (maybe it does in these strange, water-filled US-toilets). In a "normal" toilet, the water flushing down into the bowl will be affected by gravity and the design of the toilet itself way more than by the Coreolis effect, therefore leaving it negligible.
If I am wrong about that, correct me. I am always ready to learn new things.
@@bufferbuffer7320 smartereveryday has a video demonstrating the effect and how finicky it is.
This was an amazing demonstration
I love history watching all these videos about world war 1 an 2 then learning about moments that no one knew about 👍 I used to tell all my friends in school about what I learned watching old real war movies lol I really got them interested so they would listen every time lol
RIP Jason.
Target motion analysis and obtaining a firing solution. Forty years ago I had to study the formula that the mechanical computer works out. For a promotion exam.
@Travis Thacker very cool
What is it actually computing? Something involving trigonometry and possibly calculus (integration/differentiation)?
I already like this guy and his humour.
Thanks. I wondered about firing the big guns for many years.
I didn’t know Tom Segura was doing tours on navy ships now 😂😂
Looks a bit like Jack Patillo from Achievement Hunter.
Ah, the myth of your water going (counter)clockwise in northern and Southern Hemispheres.
Hurricanes do. It's just that the Coriolis effect is maybe a ten millionth of gravity. So, it shows up in large weather systems. Toilets rotate the way the water is jetted into it. If you had a perfect basin and perfectly still water, it would rotate the same as hurricanes. The effect, though, is minimal for a few pounds of water. The showman in Kenya who step back and forth over the equator and have the water switch rotation direction are fakes and manipulate the angle the water is introduced into the bowl.
This battleship is art. I love it so much
There is a crazy amount of data that is taken into account when firing long range artillery. Propellant temperature, weight of the projectile, air pressure at multiple elevations, firing unit's location, the target's location, condition of the inside of the gun tube, even the curvature of the Earth for very long range shots. When I was at the Artillery School at Ft Sill we learned to calculate it with slide rules, protractors, and firing tables on pen and paper before we got to use a firing computer.
I thought it be some dude with a keyboard and mouse staring at a lcd screaming "get rekt 360 no scope!" Like in bf1
Omfg lol your amazing. That was funny as well
The old technology was sometimes far better, in war the simpler the solution the better
@Mike Schnobrich it's very simple almost child like in comparison to today's equipment
A Battleship is an awesome naval vessel I was awe struck with the one I toured in Alabama
Wow! Human ingenuity and engineering! Beautiful!
the Coriolis affecting toilet water flushing is a total myth. it does affect projectile paths, but the direction a toilet flushes is a function of design, not spin direction.
I think he knows that but that's the example he used so the crowd would get it.
@@CousinBowling my complaint is that he is perpetuating the spread of misinformation so that they can 'get it'. and incidentally by causation when they do get it they get the wrong 'it'. this is the thing that drives me nuts about the public education system. most of the crap kids learn in school isn't even close to accurate. they teach to approximations and memorizations. stupidity isn't something you're born with it is something that is taught... I'm saying we need to stop teaching stupidity.
@@Unmannedair fair point
@@Unmannedair They're learning about a ww2 firing computer, not toilets. If he were teaching about how toilets worked to UT's or whatnot, that information would be misleading as hell. But the use of it as an example here is so he doesn't go into a full blown lecture on the Coriolis effect, which in essence would end up wasting time and potentially end up with none of them understanding.
@@Unmannedair uh how did you get a simple example a lot of people may know which is half the definition of a myth and put it with the public education system? Myths are myths and will spread
Screen shot had me thinking this was a turntable tutorial.
Thumbnail*?
This guy is an amazing teacher
Dang that analogue is beautiful
Ah, the old "toilet water" myth. Will that thing never die?
No
Most people don't understand that toilet manufacturers determine the way water flows in a toilet by the way they place the "jet" let alone the Coriolis effect.
"They count to 10"... that's ah... not very dry sense of humor... Good video though.
That is the MK-1 or 1A fire control computer used directing the guns on US naval vessels.
I worked for NAVSUP when the battleships were being restored and had to procure spare/repair parts for that computer.
I can assure you they do not make them like that any more. It was very difficult and had to salvage many parts from old mothballed ship and museum pieces, have them refurbished and tested.
I did a detailed tour of the USS Lexington (CV16) and it was awesome. I got to see the boilers, more of the engine room, secondary conn, pilots briefing room, etc. Im am going to be touring USS Iowa this summer and am bummed I dont have enough time to do the turret crawl.
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16x50=800,divides by 12=66.6’ long,The guns are that long.
My father was a Royal Navy gunnery officer WWll.Now I know what he did,thank you!
In 1986, the US Coast Guard cutter Ingham (WWII vintage) was participating in REFTRA (Refresher Training) gunnery exercises along side some modern navy vessels. There was a simulated power outage and on the INGHAM we were still able to fire our 5"/38 guns when the Navy vessels could not. When all was said and done, we eeked-out a slightly higher score than the modern naval vessels!
I went round and round with a civilian editor about the designation of naval guns. She argued that a particular gun could be either 5" or 30 caliber, but couldn't be both. Took me forever to make this well-educated idiot understand that 5" was the bore and 30 calibers was the length of the barrel. Only reason this old doggie knew was my half-brother was a Chief Gunner's Mate (Guns)
"Mam...get off your phone and work these gun controls..."
That was really interesting. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you for video. Fun facts !!
I'm not a big Navy buff ..I love WW2 planes But to understand Airpower you have to understand sea power as many battles were from flight decks. Watching .. I fell in love with The Big "E" And the Cleveland class ships along with the New Jersey and the Japanese BB/CV. ISE I been to the Philppines seen Leyte Gulf The guns of Manila @ intramoros and Rizal park where the famous last stand of the Japanese took in a dug out on a baseball field My next History trip will take me to Buffalo N.Y. to see the USS Little Rock The last Cleveland class cruiser afloat She never seen WW2 and sadly the only ship she ever hit was the USS Missouri with a misfired 5 inch star shell killing a crew member
So does this station control all main guns and turrets? Or just one?
That station operates the 16" guns.
To expand on that, the 16" guns are the main ones. It also had secondary batteries which were smaller.
This station controls the 2 forward 16" gun turrets. AKA 6 guns.
Great Explanation! Thumbs up!
Super interesting. Thanks!
5:36 is my favorite part.. Hands down
No that toilet shit is a lie,they are just molded differently with the water opening on the other side
lol
What a great tour guide!.
Thank you for the Great video