Any other electric fire: "don't use water!". An EV has a damaged battery: "let's use ten thousand gallons water, news aren't interested if we use the proper equipment". Some arsonists in Germany burned a bunch of Teslas and the picture shows they are covered in foam, there was no mention of any troubles whatsoever.
The LFP battery is a must for me in a EV - LFP or safer technology. No need to risk your life for some extra performance batteries - the EVs are rapid cars anyway.
Yes, I would definitely want LFP batteries. In my fantasy, I would do home charging in my nice attached garage. I don’t want to worry about my home burning down.
but there was another one texas that hit a tree and burned to the ground... a lot of people said they were using fsd... never found out what happened... there have been random fires with a lot of manufacturers and the manufacturers dont want to give details because they think it will only make them look bad
It's extraordinarily rare for any EV to catch fire, even after a serious accident. The problem though is that a battery fire is a nightmare to extinguish. The LFP and other coming chemistries are getting even better at this.
I saw two Fords and three Chevys have wrecks today and two of them caught on fire. There is no recall for that type of automobile to not have those problems. One of the cars were stolen.
That’s not true we just had accident in Atlanta a father and a daughter died when their Tesla crashed and their died from fire. First responders couldn’t pull them out due to how hot it got and couldn’t put out the fire for hrs..
Battery fires are same as oil/metal fires. Should be fought with dry powder, CO2 and,/or foam. Water is not a good choice but if that is all that is available use a wide spray nozzle to help dissipate heat.
I like your understatement. “EV fires can be difficult to put out”. I can agree that maybe EV fires are very common, when they do they are horrible. Better to have stated “ EV fires are virtually impossible to put out and best way is to let them just burn out by themselves”.
Actually, partially because I commute, I've seen a number of ICE vehicles on fire. Only 1 happened close to my home which I saw just start on fire, which later burnt down the house. My dad's Mustang had a fire under the hood but luckily, it happened at work in the parking lot extremely close to a fire extinguisher so damage was pretty much nothing. So yeah, ICE vehicles are not immune to this, I know first hand!
For now at the least, many of the LFP batteries are actually equipped in the base models, nevertheless 🎉 But yeah the future versions will be even much better.
Sam. Two years ago, a mentally unstable doctor drove off a huge cliff near San Francisco with his wife and kid. The Cliff was 600’ or more high, not vertical but very steep. Everyone miraculously survived, and there was no fire.
It was a Tesla Model Y that you're referring to, and yes, the entire passenger cage was intact. There were some injuries but no major injuries, and everybody survived. Testimony to how safe a Model Y
They make plastic barriers that are like a chain link moat. You set it up around the burning car and fill it with water like a wading pool. Puts the fire out and keeps it out. Uses 20% as much water as continually spraying the car. Also the liquid electrolyte diffuses into the water bath, lowering the concentration to a level where it is no longer flammable. As EV’s become more common, this will become a tool that every fire department has.
Nope. Numerous fire departments in Europe after extinguishing ev firess put them into waterproof dumpsters that were filled with water for two weeks. They were then removed. After a few days a few of them started burning again.
It won’t take much of a side impact. Alternatively, the undercarriage may be impacted as well. Ex battery designer here. Note that a gas car might be even more likely to burst into flames due to reservoir or gas lines ruptured.
I specifically wanted a LFP battery and made it a point to buy my Tesla Model 3 RWD last year before it became ineligible for the $7500 US federal tax credit. I'm very happy with that decision.
The higher end EVs tend to have the batteries that can catch fire. These is because these batteries have better performance. So what's a little fire risk when you can go further and faster.
It sounds very anecdotal to me. I would like to see some real data on this. Probability for EVs catching fire might be so low, that chemistry isn't that important, when only considering fire hazard. I would say the main criteria choosing between curently avialable LFP and NMC batteries would be cost efficiency (price and durability) vs. performance (energy density and maximum effect).
The BIG reason LFP batteries are often NOT chosen vs NCM batteries, despite their many advantages, is the C rate. The C rate is the measure of the amount of power the battery pack can accept or deliver at a given time. You cannot build a high performance car using LFP. My Tesla Model 3 does 0-60 in 5.8 seconds (it has an LFP pack). The limiting factor there is the battery pack's max power output. In all the higher end models, they're faster, and that is only achievable by using NCM.
For cold regions like Norway or Sweden LFP batteries are not suitable…already under 15 grad Celsius cell temperatur you have a significant performance decrease..its rediculous..and every OEM has the same Problem because 90% of LFP Cells are supplied by BYD/FDB
@@wedmunds While that is true, on a cell per cell basis the C rate of LFP is lower. This means connect a 1000 LFP cells and 1000 NMC cells and the NMC can be charged and discharged faster.
@@hieyeque1 Yes, but you said that high performance is only possible with NMC, which isn't true because it can be compensated by connecting more cells in parallel.
I don't like NMC but that is what Tesla is putting in their long range model Y and it is only 4K or 5K more than the LFP so I bet a lot are going to get it, and the Viking recommended it over standard range. And then when they catch on fire, it hurts the EV industry.
How come EV posters never seem to know anything about anything. It's like they sprang into existence recently as fully grown adults and their whole world consists of a laptop, a youtube account and EV news feeds.
Have you not heard of all the recalls regarding new ICE vehicles catching fire or having an actual likelihood of doing so. When one has gasoline and oxygen(air), you only need the third leg of the fire triad, a spark to have a fire. There are so many electronic sensors in the fuel supply system that any glitch can cause a fire.
For your own safety, please avoid the NCM 811 battery. It is relatively safe to have an NCM 622 battery with an effective BMS. But still, LFP batteries have shorter mileage in the winter (if you're in a country like Australia, it's not much of a bother), and they are heavier than NCM, which limits the handling of high-performance EV models.
@@dogsbodyish8403 I have seen the relevant tests. The charging and performance of Shenxing battery at around -10C are good indeed, but its range is still not as good as NCM.
The most important drawback of an LFP battery isn’t supercharging speeds. It’s their inability to power AWD and Performance versions. Not everyone is a famous youtube sensation that travels and is in a hurry to go places and always on the road. Funny how these car companies are stuck trying to impress reviewers and celebrities, which don’t actually represent the public.
There are millions of cars on recall right now for fire risk some can catch fire just siting turned off so the recall advises to park outside the garage until it's done. Almost all of those are not EVs.
It's annoying to watch the fire services putting out a fire on an EV using water . This is wrong and the correct method is to use foam , this should be standard practice as it is well known .
I'm not sure where you're getting that information from, foam is not the way you put out an EV battery fire. It's not an electrical fire. It's a chemical fire. Foam works by starving the fire of oxygen. An EV battery fire has it's own supply of oxygen in each cell. Once a cell is burning you cannot put it out. The only thing you can do is try and cool the fire so the cells next to the burning cells don't in turn start burning, which is what the fire services are trying to do with the water.
FOAM does NOT cool the battery Down, WATER Completely Extinguishes the BEV fire in 2 - 3 minutes , it also Cools the battery, many Countries are now using DUNK tanks to keep Battery Extinguished.
We desperately need solid-state batteries for EV’s, asap! LFP are great for stationary storage but have far too low energy density for EV’s, and are too heavy.
If the Hyundai Ioniq 5 had an LFP battery I would most likely buy an EV. I just don't trust that if I put it in my garage it would not burn my house down.
According to China Observer channel a lot of reports of Chinese netizens complaining about BYD car fires are scrubbed from the internet in China. Makes it harder to see what's really going on.
1) China observer kinda seems to me like anti China propaganda channel 2) A lot if those ehen you look into it seem like few years old hybrid models eith god kniws what batteries but 3) It might be an issue, sure
@@lkrnpk Sure the channel has a negative bias towards China but it does back up everything it reports with a wall of facts that on the whole seem believable. People considering to buy a BYD vehicle you really check out this channel and make up their own minds whether they want to be so invested in a product form an anything goes culture.
Maybe what caught fire was an old BYD EV that still uses NMC or lithium ion batteries considering that LFP batteries have only been used in the past few years.
@@agusedyanto3324 LFP has been around for a long time and since it's the cheapest chemistry you can be sure it's in most Chinese electric cars, most of which have been produced in the last few years anyway.
@@tellyboy17 China Observer clearly has a specific target to bring down the Chinese industry in any case, the channel's source speaks without being heard in his original voice and is immediately replaced by the English translation of the narrator himself, his credibility is questionable
@@davidbangsdemocracy5455 unfortunately most of the companies using NMC batteries from them have recalls. Tesla has sold millions of EVs with NMC batteries without any issues. If you look into it this is because Tesla is extremely strict with its suppliers and has the highest rate of refusal of slightly not perfect cells.
@@davidbangsdemocracy5455 this Lucid uses LG battery. GM had to recall its EVs. A California city stopped all electric buses except the ones made by BYD due to “fire hazard”.
Not can be difficult to put out. They ARE impossible to put out. Fire crews are advised to let them burn out, just contain the pollution and fire spread. All that runoff went straight into the storm drains and from there who knows where. One day Sam you will stop spinning the facts to keep the fanboys happy.
Are you sure you really believe LFP is safer than NCM? Yes it can be when you only see the materials, it's like Gasoline and Diesel. Gasoline is easier to catch fire than diesel, but it's enough to be safe in our daily life. I don't think you only want to drive trucks because gasoline is more dangerous.
This video from John Cadogan's Auto Expert channel shows how chilled brines can be used to quickly supress an EV battery fire. It disturbs me that all fire services are not testing this method themselves... th-cam.com/video/ODirK7ZuYW4/w-d-xo.htmlsi=a218-VjDekT4DOig
You kinda annoy me when you say how likely it is for a ICE powered vehicle to catch fire it's actually quite hard it needs an electrical short or a fuel leak on to the exhaust as fuel without a heat source will not burn and it also needs the correct amount of oxygen diesel is even less likely to burn as it's vapour point is much higher you could literally put out a match with a bucket of diesel. Most ICE fires are arsen, an electrical fault or poor maintenance/workmanship
LFP batteries are not new and have their problems. If they had such miraculous properties they would be used everywhere, but they don't. Their place is mainly in energy storage and low end chinese cars.
Batteries - batteries - batteries. Blue ones are better than red ones, etc, etc, ad infinitum. I think batteries are always going to be the weak point with EVs. They’re going to be big and heavy for a long time to come. An electric drivetrain in a car makes perfect sense, great idea, but this whole battery business is out of control. Produce an electric car with the electricity provided by something other than a huge toxic battery and that has a decent range and “refuelling” time and I’ll gladly buy one.
LFP is inferior though and NmC isn’t good enough either. So it’s basically a downgrade on a technology that is basically full of compromises already. That’s why sales are falling and used values tanking
ICE cars are only more likely to burn, because there are more of them. As a percentage, more electric cars burn. The Chinese company BYD is rightly known as Burning on Your Driveway. R
People who drive ICE cars forget they are sitting on ~15gals of highly explosive material. If you burn a lot and your gas/petrol tank is low, you are sitting on explosive gas. ICE is not so nice.
They don't just count how many car fires their are, they count them per 100,000 cars sold in each vehicle type so its a like for like comparison. The people who do these studies are not stupid.
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As a former firefighter I will say many types of fires will rekindle if all material is not cooled to its core. No big deal in my opinion.
Any other electric fire: "don't use water!".
An EV has a damaged battery: "let's use ten thousand gallons water, news aren't interested if we use the proper equipment".
Some arsonists in Germany burned a bunch of Teslas and the picture shows they are covered in foam, there was no mention of any troubles whatsoever.
Really? You find ICE cars reignite themselves on a regular basis?
@@mariusvancyep. statistics show it happens much more frequently, however you don’t see it reported because it’s not news worthy.
The LFP battery is a must for me in a EV - LFP or safer technology.
No need to risk your life for some extra performance batteries - the EVs are rapid cars anyway.
Yes, I would definitely want LFP batteries. In my fantasy, I would do home charging in my nice attached garage. I don’t want to worry about my home burning down.
I saw a Tesla hit a car and run into a light post, knocking it down. Everyone got out alive(3 people), no fire at all. The Tesla was totaled.
but there was another one texas that hit a tree and burned to the ground... a lot of people said they were using fsd... never found out what happened... there have been random fires with a lot of manufacturers and the manufacturers dont want to give details because they think it will only make them look bad
It's extraordinarily rare for any EV to catch fire, even after a serious accident. The problem though is that a battery fire is a nightmare to extinguish. The LFP and other coming chemistries are getting even better at this.
I saw two Fords and three Chevys have wrecks today and two of them caught on fire. There is no recall for that type of automobile to not have those problems. One of the cars were stolen.
@@ZeusBullyMax shhhh... only EV fires are allowed to be made public..
That’s not true we just had accident in Atlanta a father and a daughter died when their Tesla crashed and their died from fire. First responders couldn’t pull them out due to how hot it got and couldn’t put out the fire for hrs..
100%! I personally will only buy an EV with LFP battery chemistry.
AS AN HARD - CORE EV ENTHUSIAST, I WOULD ALSO SUPPORT LFP. ALUMINIUM - AIR BATT'S R ALSO AS SAFE AS LFP'S.
There will be sodium batteries and others, that are very safe too.
Lfp is great and it's the safest..... But... Its energy density is not as high as others. I have a lfp battery for the trolling motor on boat
Battery fires are same as oil/metal fires. Should be fought with dry powder, CO2 and,/or foam.
Water is not a good choice but if that is all that is available use a wide spray nozzle to help dissipate heat.
I like your understatement. “EV fires can be difficult to put out”. I can agree that maybe EV fires are very common, when they do they are horrible. Better to have stated “ EV fires are virtually impossible to put out and best way is to let them just burn out by themselves”.
Actually, partially because I commute, I've seen a number of ICE vehicles on fire. Only 1 happened close to my home which I saw just start on fire, which later burnt down the house. My dad's Mustang had a fire under the hood but luckily, it happened at work in the parking lot extremely close to a fire extinguisher so damage was pretty much nothing. So yeah, ICE vehicles are not immune to this, I know first hand!
Tesla uses eith NCA or NMC batteries in the long range and performance models. LFP is only used in the SR models.
first..... I would not hesitate in buying LFP over NCM Lithium battery , even at the same price.
For now at the least, many of the LFP batteries are actually equipped in the base models, nevertheless 🎉
But yeah the future versions will be even much better.
Pass. I get 550 miles with my '95 7.3 powerstroke. 300 for the front tank and 250 with the rear one.
Yep, why I bought the Tesla MY RWD. Would never consider a non LFP option.
Sam. Two years ago, a mentally unstable doctor drove off a huge cliff near San Francisco with his wife and kid. The Cliff was 600’ or more high, not vertical but very steep. Everyone miraculously survived, and there was no fire.
In a Tesla !
Dan, thanks for fixing my post! Yeah, in a very well engineered Tesla!
He already covered that story.
It was a Tesla Model Y that you're referring to, and yes, the entire passenger cage was intact. There were some injuries but no major injuries, and everybody survived. Testimony to how safe a Model Y
@@danharold3087a white Tesla Model Y Performance to be exact
Poland 🇵🇱 wow Lucid. I see only few of those in USA
Yeah non fire catching batteries will be a game changer for EVs.
They make plastic barriers that are like a chain link moat. You set it up around the burning car and fill it with water like a wading pool. Puts the fire out and keeps it out. Uses 20% as much water as continually spraying the car. Also the liquid electrolyte diffuses into the water bath, lowering the concentration to a level where it is no longer flammable. As EV’s become more common, this will become a tool that every fire department has.
Nope. Numerous fire departments in Europe after extinguishing ev firess put them into waterproof dumpsters that were filled with water for two weeks. They were then removed. After a few days a few of them started burning again.
how fast do you need to be going in the city to crash such a big car hard enough to damage the battery?
how much force do you need to puncture a pack that's inches from the floor?
How irresponsible is the driver in this case!?
Yes.
@@kabysummit5801 very irresponsible, I never avoid accidents if it's not going to be my fault. It's a safer approach, if I crash alone it's my loss
The speed limit. 60km/h into a solid object will destroy any car!
It won’t take much of a side impact.
Alternatively, the undercarriage may be impacted as well. Ex battery designer here.
Note that a gas car might be even more likely to burst into flames due to reservoir or gas lines ruptured.
I specifically wanted a LFP battery and made it a point to buy my Tesla Model 3 RWD last year before it became ineligible for the $7500 US federal tax credit. I'm very happy with that decision.
The higher end EVs tend to have the batteries that can catch fire. These is because these batteries have better performance. So what's a little fire risk when you can go further and faster.
It sounds very anecdotal to me. I would like to see some real data on this. Probability for EVs catching fire might be so low, that chemistry isn't that important, when only considering fire hazard. I would say the main criteria choosing between curently avialable LFP and NMC batteries would be cost efficiency (price and durability) vs. performance (energy density and maximum effect).
Sam was a big fan of the original NCM ternary batteries when they first came out.
BTW, -10C is not cold, -30 C is cold.
Is that the same -30C that causes diesel to turn into wax?
The BIG reason LFP batteries are often NOT chosen vs NCM batteries, despite their many advantages, is the C rate.
The C rate is the measure of the amount of power the battery pack can accept or deliver at a given time.
You cannot build a high performance car using LFP. My Tesla Model 3 does 0-60 in 5.8 seconds (it has an LFP pack).
The limiting factor there is the battery pack's max power output.
In all the higher end models, they're faster, and that is only achievable by using NCM.
For cold regions like Norway or Sweden LFP batteries are not suitable…already under 15 grad Celsius cell temperatur you have a significant performance decrease..its rediculous..and every OEM has the same Problem because 90% of LFP Cells are supplied by BYD/FDB
@@visionmodernclassics3062 This is true. LFP hates cold.
That's not true. The power limit is set by how many cells you connect in parallel. More cells in parallel = more power output but lower voltage.
@@wedmunds While that is true, on a cell per cell basis the C rate of LFP is lower. This means connect a 1000 LFP cells and 1000 NMC cells and the NMC can be charged and discharged faster.
@@hieyeque1 Yes, but you said that high performance is only possible with NMC, which isn't true because it can be compensated by connecting more cells in parallel.
Yep… media won’t run with this one. If it were a Tesla it sure as F would.
I don't like NMC but that is what Tesla is putting in their long range model Y and it is only 4K or 5K more than the LFP so I bet a lot are going to get it, and the Viking recommended it over standard range. And then when they catch on fire, it hurts the EV industry.
TESLA fires are very RARE.
There was almost nothing left of the electric car after that fire. That fire looked very serious.
I am not sure if Lucid is selling cars in Poland. It could as well have been purchased in Germany or France - this is EU common market for you.
This Lucid had an accident in Poland, is all.
How come EV posters never seem to know anything about anything. It's like they sprang into existence recently as fully grown adults and their whole world consists of a laptop, a youtube account and EV news feeds.
Those fire prone batteries should be banned.
Made illegal
Gasaholeline should be made illegal.
You must consider that these are virtually new cars catching fire whereas with ICE it is older cars often not properly maintained
Have you not heard of all the recalls regarding new ICE vehicles catching fire or having an actual likelihood of doing so. When one has gasoline and oxygen(air), you only need the third leg of the fire triad, a spark to have a fire. There are so many electronic sensors in the fuel supply system that any glitch can cause a fire.
Byd blade batterys safe right?
Yep these are LFPs
Yes, bing chillingly safe
yeah really safe... th-cam.com/video/7aUPuXV9FMw/w-d-xo.html
For your own safety, please avoid the NCM 811 battery.
It is relatively safe to have an NCM 622 battery with an effective BMS.
But still, LFP batteries have shorter mileage in the winter (if you're in a country like Australia, it's not much of a bother), and they are heavier than NCM, which limits the handling of high-performance EV models.
Sam mentioned the newest LFPs good for -10C.
I'd get the LFP models any day
@@dogsbodyish8403 I have seen the relevant tests. The charging and performance of Shenxing battery at around -10C are good indeed, but its range is still not as good as NCM.
@@thedarksideofevan4690 True, but they can be regularly charged to 100% and they have a longer lifespan - well beyond the life of the car it's in.
The most important drawback of an LFP battery isn’t supercharging speeds. It’s their inability to power AWD and Performance versions. Not everyone is a famous youtube sensation that travels and is in a hurry to go places and always on the road.
Funny how these car companies are stuck trying to impress reviewers and celebrities, which don’t actually represent the public.
There is a lot more left there than a model S and Model X when they burn.
Morning mate
There are millions of cars on recall right now for fire risk some can catch fire just siting turned off so the recall advises to park outside the garage until it's done. Almost all of those are not EVs.
Everything should be LFP as cheap as they are. You're looking Amazon they're the same price as lead now.
Do some research about LTO batteries
It's annoying to watch the fire services putting out a fire on an EV using water .
This is wrong and the correct method is to use foam , this should be standard practice as it is well known .
I'm not sure where you're getting that information from, foam is not the way you put out an EV battery fire. It's not an electrical fire. It's a chemical fire. Foam works by starving the fire of oxygen. An EV battery fire has it's own supply of oxygen in each cell. Once a cell is burning you cannot put it out. The only thing you can do is try and cool the fire so the cells next to the burning cells don't in turn start burning, which is what the fire services are trying to do with the water.
FOAM does NOT cool the battery Down, WATER Completely Extinguishes the BEV fire in 2 - 3 minutes , it also Cools the battery, many Countries are now using DUNK tanks to keep Battery Extinguished.
We desperately need solid-state batteries for EV’s, asap! LFP are great for stationary storage but have far too low energy density for EV’s, and are too heavy.
No EV is desparately needed.
If the Hyundai Ioniq 5 had an LFP battery I would most likely buy an EV. I just don't trust that if I put it in my garage it would not burn my house down.
The short range is has been using LFP battery for years. Its only long range uses NCMA
Less likely yes. But when it happens the effects are much much more devastating
Why take any risk at all?? ICE cars live!!
Electric Viking - thats BS, bev fires are EZ to put out.
the UK and EU use dunk tanks to permanently extinguish BEV fires.
Fire blanket
According to China Observer channel a lot of reports of Chinese netizens complaining about BYD car fires are scrubbed from the internet in China. Makes it harder to see what's really going on.
1) China observer kinda seems to me like anti China propaganda channel
2) A lot if those ehen you look into it seem like few years old hybrid models eith god kniws what batteries but
3) It might be an issue, sure
@@lkrnpk Sure the channel has a negative bias towards China but it does back up everything it reports with a wall of facts that on the whole seem believable. People considering to buy a BYD vehicle you really check out this channel and make up their own minds whether they want to be so invested in a product form an anything goes culture.
Maybe what caught fire was an old BYD EV that still uses NMC or lithium ion batteries considering that LFP batteries have only been used in the past few years.
@@agusedyanto3324 LFP has been around for a long time and since it's the cheapest chemistry you can be sure it's in most Chinese electric cars, most of which have been produced in the last few years anyway.
@@tellyboy17
China Observer clearly has a specific target to bring down the Chinese industry in any case, the channel's source speaks without being heard in his original voice and is immediately replaced by the English translation of the narrator himself, his credibility is questionable
Buy 12 volt lead acid hooked to a gas car.
Actually, don’t buy any EV with LG batteries
Do you have data about LG branding causing fires? Or perhaps, as Sam says, battery chemistry is more related to flammability.
@@davidbangsdemocracy5455 unfortunately most of the companies using NMC batteries from them have recalls. Tesla has sold millions of EVs with NMC batteries without any issues. If you look into it this is because Tesla is extremely strict with its suppliers and has the highest rate of refusal of slightly not perfect cells.
$60 thousand to replace the battery after snowball hit in Canada... Twice now so battery price is confirmed insane with Hyundai
@@davidbangsdemocracy5455 this Lucid uses LG battery. GM had to recall its EVs. A California city stopped all electric buses except the ones made by BYD due to “fire hazard”.
LG is pretty much doing recall after recall nonstop. It is really giving EVs and home batteries a really bad name.
Not can be difficult to put out. They ARE impossible to put out. Fire crews are advised to let them burn out, just contain the pollution and fire spread. All that runoff went straight into the storm drains and from there who knows where.
One day Sam you will stop spinning the facts to keep the fanboys happy.
Are you sure you really believe LFP is safer than NCM? Yes it can be when you only see the materials, it's like Gasoline and Diesel.
Gasoline is easier to catch fire than diesel, but it's enough to be safe in our daily life. I don't think you only want to drive trucks because gasoline is more dangerous.
This is issue with evs in general bad wrap
This is my point. EV standards around batteries are too low, which is why I wont buy an EV near term.
It's easy: ifvthe BEV doesn't have an LFP or Sodium-Ion battery...it is shovelware.
This video from John Cadogan's Auto Expert channel shows how chilled brines can be used to quickly supress an EV battery fire.
It disturbs me that all fire services are not testing this method themselves...
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Im not buying a EV until solid state batteries are in them these fires are insane
"ev fires are extremely rare" about 7 cars catch fire a day.
You kinda annoy me when you say how likely it is for a ICE powered vehicle to catch fire it's actually quite hard it needs an electrical short or a fuel leak on to the exhaust as fuel without a heat source will not burn and it also needs the correct amount of oxygen diesel is even less likely to burn as it's vapour point is much higher you could literally put out a match with a bucket of diesel. Most ICE fires are arsen, an electrical fault or poor maintenance/workmanship
EV on fire. Now there's a surprise!!
LFP batteries are not new and have their problems. If they had such miraculous properties they would be used everywhere, but they don't. Their place is mainly in energy storage and low end chinese cars.
for the green woke that is not green smoke more worst than 10 ice cars.
LFP > NCM
EV’s will be old technology soon…Massive Chinese purchasing of anything means nothing
Your not a real ev company unless you’ve lost cars to incineration I think lucid is hot garbage but welcome to the club from NIO
Maybe it was totaled in the US fixed in the Ukraine and sold in Poland.
EV's are not worth fixing: th-cam.com/video/iE8AmkQRhlg/w-d-xo.html
Batteries - batteries - batteries. Blue ones are better than red ones, etc, etc, ad infinitum. I think batteries are always going to be the weak point with EVs. They’re going to be big and heavy for a long time to come. An electric drivetrain in a car makes perfect sense, great idea, but this whole battery business is out of control. Produce an electric car with the electricity provided by something other than a huge toxic battery and that has a decent range and “refuelling” time and I’ll gladly buy one.
LFP is inferior though and NmC isn’t good enough either. So it’s basically a downgrade on a technology that is basically full of compromises already. That’s why sales are falling and used values tanking
Technology is still developing and LFP storage capacity is also continuing to increase
ICE cars are only more likely to burn, because there are more of them.
As a percentage, more electric cars burn.
The Chinese company BYD is rightly known as Burning on Your Driveway.
R
People who drive ICE cars forget they are sitting on ~15gals of highly explosive material. If you burn a lot and your gas/petrol tank is low, you are sitting on explosive gas.
ICE is not so nice.
They don't just count how many car fires their are, they count them per 100,000 cars sold in each vehicle type so its a like for like comparison. The people who do these studies are not stupid.
Stupid like this comment saying gascars burn less
And: Burn Your Dollars...(depreciation is extreme)
@@stefan2796 Teslas have often sold for more than new. The " no sell clause" is not new for Tesla. Cybertrucks now selling for 1/4 million.