Anything with a low wing loading is going to get pushed around and “feel” the wind but the large control surfaces let you stay in control, just need an understanding of very light aircraft. I’ll fly when lots of 172s are not. Once it gets over 20kts then it’s normally time to stop flying and fun some other fun that day. However I’ve managed 20kts in all direction including takeoff tailwind (I wouldn’t try to land with 20kts behind, that would end up a wreck) and crosswind.
It’s an easy and fun aeroplane to fly, ideal for training. At the same time it’s basic simple fun flying for more experienced pilots and very capable STOL in the right hands. I’ve owned fast and aerobatic but I love the go anywhere and land anywhere of the Foxbat. Enjoy your training and remember your most special flight ever is your first Solo.
Jim Quinn Hi, I landed and stayed a couple of days at Ardfert in this Foxbat just over 5 years ago. Great welcome and lovely strip, I’m based near London. The Foxbat is easy to fly and used as a trainer in Aus and I think South Africa. The build quality of the kit is very good and Ray (based in Wales) is the importer for UK and Ireland, he’s a good guy and really know the Foxbat. It would make a good group aircraft and with the bigger wheels is great for Irish Strips. This is the second one I’ve owned and even after having an RV7 I still love the simple easy flying of the Foxbat, it’s much more able than I am at short strips.
@@irishflyer6377 Even though we never met. I remember your visit and seeing the Foxbat. Brendan who owns the strip and is a group member remembers you asking him to fly to London in convoy or something. Keep posting and thank you for the info. Regards Jim.
Jim Quinn - When this crazy COVID is out of the way the invite is still good. Happy to meet in Ireland or Wales, London airspace can look a little silly unless you know it.
@@irishflyer6377 Thats on my bucket list for along time. Officially I'm a cockney but I'm in Kerry since I was a year old.. Lol... I love that idea.. thank you so much for the offer.
I’d love to, I’m based south of London but visit Ireland a few times a year, usually use Kilrush or Birr as a base. Perhaps next time (when this COVID is gone) I’ll come visit you guys.
I want one so badly! just at the top end of my second hand budget Saw one for £44k on afors the other day. Going to end up with a Skyranger (though those are excellent too - possibly new factory built).
The Foxbats have always held their value well but this makes 2nd deals hard to find. New one now can run to 100k when people are finished putting in fancy avionics. I wish you good luck in you search.
Hi, thank you. I’m based in Kent, UK. Most of my flying is in s/e England but over the years I’ve also toured Ireland, France, Belgium, Holland and Germany. Wishing right now I could fly but I’m in isolation and everyone is in lockdown. Where are you? And hopefully everyone around you is safe.
@@markh7288 Most years I use Kilrush as a base for touring Ireland. Ian is always helpful and its the one place I can always get fuel and a Hanger when needed. Before the Foxbat I had an RV7 so have done a little flying with Gerry Humphreys. What do you fly?
Irish Flyer I fly group A in a 182 & 172. I was also part of a Bristell group but it was lost tragically last summer. I have a couple of friends flying RVs but I find them a little small for me. I like the look of the Foxbat I got up in one in Northern Ireland last year and was impressed. I have plenty of hours in microlights too.
@@markh7288 No Aircraft does everything and at times I miss doing aeros over mid Wales just because I'm bored at 6000ft or runs to the south of France at 200Kts. The Foxbat doesn't do Areos or 200kts (at least not more than once) however I enjoy it as a simple look out the windows and fly, its got outstanding vis and great STOL. Its fun to fly while being totally safe handling, you can do 35kts stable and level or 90Kts if you really want. Its not cheap to buy but running costs are low, in 5 years its needed nothing except routine maintenance and burns about 18l p/h. When this madness is ended come over here and I'll take you flying.
I have a few GoPro gen 3 camera, these are normally looking back into the cockpit and forward view from the cockpit. I also have an INSTA 360 ONE under the left wing where the strut attaches, this is slightly lower quality video but because it shoots in 360 I can edit in any direction later, it’s the most flexible camera.
I also run usb cables to each camera and power them from a portable usb power pack in the luggage bay. Power taken from the aircraft will cause some noise on the video and also build in camera batters tend to have a short run time in cold weather.
Maybe, I trained on Gyro before fixed wing. They both have advantages and disadvantages. True the Gyro can't stall but it also can't take negative G, yes it can handle more wind but in still conditions has a longer takeoff run. The Gyro can land on the spot but needs more skill to ground handle. In the end both are great and I think too few people know anything about Gyro.
@@irishflyer6377 I agree from all my research. Nice to hear from someone with experience. Count your blessings. Flying either one would be a dream come true for this old man.
@@cyb5761 In the end most GA accidents are more to do with planning and understanding limitations of the pilot and the aircraft than the abilities of different aircraft. All types can be operated with a very high level of safety and just as easily they can all be operated in a dangerous manner. I think the Gyro needs a little more understanding because it has a spinning wing that some people find more difficult to understand. If you want to experience GA then find some local pilots, over the years I've taken many people for their first GA flight and I know lots of Pilots who are only too happy to share this experience with others. Life is too short for unfulfilled dreams.
Nice little demonstration of the Foxbats capability. I have G-EOID and just love the performance. What numbers you are using for short final and threshold? Do you use second stage of flap?
I use both stages of flap and set it up at 40mph on approach ( add 5 mph if near max weight or if windy) close the throttle over the hedge and drop the nose a little until the flare. I find that setting up a slow stable approach early is much easier that trying to approach at 60 and then slow down. Sometimes a small burst of power in the flare will stabilise when gusty. This is my way but PLEASE don’t try short field without proper training, just because I do it doesn’t mean it’s safe.
@@irishflyer6377 I take your warning, good call but I use 40kts on short final with 1st stage. Strictly, my type (475kg variation SEP) is limited (by the LAA) to 1st stage because flap 2 produces a huge nose down trim that cannot be trimmed out and requires a large amount of back pressure to be maintained. The last time I did the permit test, I played with the bottom end of the flight envelope and discovered how remarkable the Foxbat is. At 28 kts indicated, on the verge of the stall, I could still steer with ailerons. It gives you confidence to approach at 45kts without fear of inadvertently dropping a wing. Gotta keep a keen hand on that throttle though !
Super Reality Kid So on final you really need to stay above 35Kts until the flare giving you about 1.25 of stall, a fraction below the recommended 1.3 minimum. My 600KG has a greater weight envelope (from about 420 KG with me and a small about of fuel to 600KG max) so i do need to consider load when setting minimum approach speed. The thing is the Foxbat is so controllable and forgiving right down to the stall and if you ease the back pressure and add power it will fly away with almost zero height loss. I also love the cross wind ability, I can fly when many 172s are staying in the hanger.
About 85kts normally and up to 95kts if I really push it. It’s got great low-speed handling and a very powerful elevator so in fact you can fly a little bit like a Taildragger. The nose wheel can be kept off and anything above walking pace, In fact it does have a small tail because it’s so easy to touch the head on the ground.
@@irishflyer6377 Quite good numbers considering the drag penalty. I know they're fun little almost go anywhere machines. And those virtues are not so common with new and slick ULs. In fact where I live, prakt's robustness makes it so popular that secondhand ones are usually sold among hangar buddies. Only problem for me is that although cockpit is wide, being tall i miss the legroom.
przemo 1000 there is not much you can do about getting extra legroom because of the frame behind the seat, at 5’11” I’m fine. If you have the centre stick version you could build a new binnacle and panel that will give more knee room. I like the overall quality and how easy it is to fly, okay I miss Taildragger and aerobatics from other aircraft I’ve owned but it’s still nice to just look out the window and enjoy easy handling. What part of the world do you fly in?
@@irishflyer6377 I'm from Poland, I also did some flying in neighboring countries but now due to reasons that we all face, mostly around the chimney. I'm 1,88 or 6'2" in your numbers so you see my point. I was told that new A32 is much better in that respect (no bulkhead behind the seats). I haven't seen it yet but even if so, it's totally out of the budget. From the technical point of view I like a-22 for simple but clever design and no pop rivets in important places, also my friends say that it handles crosswind and rough weather easier than most Uls. Anyway, happy flying, if you ever decide to take your plane for a longer hop and reach my side of Europe, let me know I'll give you some aerial sightseeing ;)
@@przemo1000x hi there! Just saw your post on the Irish flyer video etc. I have a Foxbat & I’m 6’4”😀👍! No problems with legroom or headroom etc. Just a delight to fly! All the best and happy & safe flying!
They're great for STOL. Fun to fly but they do get pushed around a bit in more windy conditions.
Anything with a low wing loading is going to get pushed around and “feel” the wind but the large control surfaces let you stay in control, just need an understanding of very light aircraft. I’ll fly when lots of 172s are not. Once it gets over 20kts then it’s normally time to stop flying and fun some other fun that day. However I’ve managed 20kts in all direction including takeoff tailwind (I wouldn’t try to land with 20kts behind, that would end up a wreck) and crosswind.
Training in NZ on a Foxbat…love it!!!
It’s an easy and fun aeroplane to fly, ideal for training. At the same time it’s basic simple fun flying for more experienced pilots and very capable STOL in the right hands. I’ve owned fast and aerobatic but I love the go anywhere and land anywhere of the Foxbat. Enjoy your training and remember your most special flight ever is your first Solo.
Great landing!
I appreciate the complement coming from you guys. Someday I’ll might by able to fly a Foxbat to its limits, its a great fun plane.
You don't have one going cheap do you... Pretty Please! 🤣
Lovely video. As a group we are considering a Foxbat. Greetings from Ardfert.
Jim Quinn Hi, I landed and stayed a couple of days at Ardfert in this Foxbat just over 5 years ago. Great welcome and lovely strip, I’m based near London. The Foxbat is easy to fly and used as a trainer in Aus and I think South Africa. The build quality of the kit is very good and Ray (based in Wales) is the importer for UK and Ireland, he’s a good guy and really know the Foxbat. It would make a good group aircraft and with the bigger wheels is great for Irish Strips. This is the second one I’ve owned and even after having an RV7 I still love the simple easy flying of the Foxbat, it’s much more able than I am at short strips.
@@irishflyer6377 Even though we never met. I remember your visit and seeing the Foxbat. Brendan who owns the strip and is a group member remembers you asking him to fly to London in convoy or something. Keep posting and thank you for the info. Regards Jim.
Jim Quinn - When this crazy COVID is out of the way the invite is still good. Happy to meet in Ireland or Wales, London airspace can look a little silly unless you know it.
@@irishflyer6377 Thats on my bucket list for along time. Officially I'm a cockney but I'm in Kerry since I was a year old.. Lol... I love that idea.. thank you so much for the offer.
Beautiful flying there!!
Thank you, I wish I was good enough to fly the Foxbat to it limits. It’s way more capable than I am.
I see your into faster spin all around stuff. Great vides. My buddy flys an Extra, search Aces High.
Nicely done!
Thank you, the Foxbat is fun to fly and I’m trying to learn to make videos that show this.
Hopefully you come up to Kernan aviation sometime soon.
I’d love to, I’m based south of London but visit Ireland a few times a year, usually use Kilrush or Birr as a base. Perhaps next time (when this COVID is gone) I’ll come visit you guys.
That grass sure looked bumpy.
It wasn't bad, it is a backcountry aircraft designed to use rough fields. Thank you for watching
I want one so badly! just at the top end of my second hand budget Saw one for £44k on afors the other day. Going to end up with a Skyranger (though those are excellent too - possibly new factory built).
The Foxbats have always held their value well but this makes 2nd deals hard to find. New one now can run to 100k when people are finished putting in fancy avionics. I wish you good luck in you search.
Lovely aeroplane, enjoy.
Thank you, this wasn’t much of a year for flying. Hopefully I can tour again next year. Have a good Christmas
All the armchair pilots out there and not one dislike... great video 👍
The world is full of experts who know better but live and let live. I enjoy motorbikes and flying and have a lot still to learn about both.
Þú lætur ekki deigan síga, ótrúlegur. Kv.pabbi.
Thank you, I think.
I’d love to fly in Iceland sometime
Unfortunately, most of this video was blurry (out of focus), at least on my laptop's screen. What a shame.
Great video, I love the way you narrate exactly what’s happening. Where are you based?
Hi, thank you. I’m based in Kent, UK. Most of my flying is in s/e England but over the years I’ve also toured Ireland, France, Belgium, Holland and Germany. Wishing right now I could fly but I’m in isolation and everyone is in lockdown. Where are you? And hopefully everyone around you is safe.
Irish Flyer like you we’re keeping our heads down. I fly out of Weston outside Dublin, I also fly at the lighter end from Limetree and Kilrush.
@@markh7288 Most years I use Kilrush as a base for touring Ireland. Ian is always helpful and its the one place I can always get fuel and a Hanger when needed. Before the Foxbat I had an RV7 so have done a little flying with Gerry Humphreys. What do you fly?
Irish Flyer I fly group A in a 182 & 172. I was also part of a Bristell group but it was lost tragically last summer. I have a couple of friends flying RVs but I find them a little small for me. I like the look of the Foxbat I got up in one in Northern Ireland last year and was impressed. I have plenty of hours in microlights too.
@@markh7288 No Aircraft does everything and at times I miss doing aeros over mid Wales just because I'm bored at 6000ft or runs to the south of France at 200Kts. The Foxbat doesn't do Areos or 200kts (at least not more than once) however I enjoy it as a simple look out the windows and fly, its got outstanding vis and great STOL. Its fun to fly while being totally safe handling, you can do 35kts stable and level or 90Kts if you really want. Its not cheap to buy but running costs are low, in 5 years its needed nothing except routine maintenance and burns about 18l p/h. When this madness is ended come over here and I'll take you flying.
What's the wing camera you're using?
I have a few GoPro gen 3 camera, these are normally looking back into the cockpit and forward view from the cockpit. I also have an INSTA 360 ONE under the left wing where the strut attaches, this is slightly lower quality video but because it shoots in 360 I can edit in any direction later, it’s the most flexible camera.
I also run usb cables to each camera and power them from a portable usb power pack in the luggage bay. Power taken from the aircraft will cause some noise on the video and also build in camera batters tend to have a short run time in cold weather.
Nice aircraft but gyrocopters are safer.
Maybe, I trained on Gyro before fixed wing. They both have advantages and disadvantages. True the Gyro can't stall but it also can't take negative G, yes it can handle more wind but in still conditions has a longer takeoff run. The Gyro can land on the spot but needs more skill to ground handle. In the end both are great and I think too few people know anything about Gyro.
@@irishflyer6377 I agree from all my research. Nice to hear from someone with experience. Count your blessings. Flying either one would be a dream come true for this old man.
@@cyb5761 In the end most GA accidents are more to do with planning and understanding limitations of the pilot and the aircraft than the abilities of different aircraft. All types can be operated with a very high level of safety and just as easily they can all be operated in a dangerous manner. I think the Gyro needs a little more understanding because it has a spinning wing that some people find more difficult to understand. If you want to experience GA then find some local pilots, over the years I've taken many people for their first GA flight and I know lots of Pilots who are only too happy to share this experience with others. Life is too short for unfulfilled dreams.
Nice little demonstration of the Foxbats capability. I have G-EOID and just love the performance. What numbers you are using for short final and threshold? Do you use second stage of flap?
I use both stages of flap and set it up at 40mph on approach ( add 5 mph if near max weight or if windy) close the throttle over the hedge and drop the nose a little until the flare. I find that setting up a slow stable approach early is much easier that trying to approach at 60 and then slow down. Sometimes a small burst of power in the flare will stabilise when gusty. This is my way but PLEASE don’t try short field without proper training, just because I do it doesn’t mean it’s safe.
@@irishflyer6377 I take your warning, good call but I use 40kts on short final with 1st stage. Strictly, my type (475kg variation SEP) is limited (by the LAA) to 1st stage because flap 2 produces a huge nose down trim that cannot be trimmed out and requires a large amount of back pressure to be maintained. The last time I did the permit test, I played with the bottom end of the flight envelope and discovered how remarkable the Foxbat is. At 28 kts indicated, on the verge of the stall, I could still steer with ailerons. It gives you confidence to approach at 45kts without fear of inadvertently dropping a wing. Gotta keep a keen hand on that throttle though !
Super Reality Kid So on final you really need to stay above 35Kts until the flare giving you about 1.25 of stall, a fraction below the recommended 1.3 minimum. My 600KG has a greater weight envelope (from about 420 KG with me and a small about of fuel to 600KG max) so i do need to consider load when setting minimum approach speed. The thing is the Foxbat is so controllable and forgiving right down to the stall and if you ease the back pressure and add power it will fly away with almost zero height loss. I also love the cross wind ability, I can fly when many 172s are staying in the hanger.
My favorite type of flying, used to do that in a taildragger I've owned for some time ;) What cruise speed do you get with 8x6 tires ?
About 85kts normally and up to 95kts if I really push it. It’s got great low-speed handling and a very powerful elevator so in fact you can fly a little bit like a Taildragger. The nose wheel can be kept off and anything above walking pace, In fact it does have a small tail because it’s so easy to touch the head on the ground.
@@irishflyer6377 Quite good numbers considering the drag penalty. I know they're fun little almost go anywhere machines. And those virtues are not so common with new and slick ULs. In fact where I live, prakt's robustness makes it so popular that secondhand ones are usually sold among hangar buddies. Only problem for me is that although cockpit is wide, being tall i miss the legroom.
przemo 1000 there is not much you can do about getting extra legroom because of the frame behind the seat, at 5’11” I’m fine. If you have the centre stick version you could build a new binnacle and panel that will give more knee room. I like the overall quality and how easy it is to fly, okay I miss Taildragger and aerobatics from other aircraft I’ve owned but it’s still nice to just look out the window and enjoy easy handling. What part of the world do you fly in?
@@irishflyer6377 I'm from Poland, I also did some flying in neighboring countries but now due to reasons that we all face, mostly around the chimney. I'm 1,88 or 6'2" in your numbers so you see my point. I was told that new A32 is much better in that respect (no bulkhead behind the seats). I haven't seen it yet but even if so, it's totally out of the budget. From the technical point of view I like a-22 for simple but clever design and no pop rivets in important places, also my friends say that it handles crosswind and rough weather easier than most Uls. Anyway, happy flying, if you ever decide to take your plane for a longer hop and reach my side of Europe, let me know I'll give you some aerial sightseeing ;)
@@przemo1000x hi there! Just saw your post on the Irish flyer video etc. I have a Foxbat & I’m 6’4”😀👍! No problems with legroom or headroom etc. Just a delight to fly! All the best and happy & safe flying!
Made in Ukraine!☝️👍👍👍
your video editing is extremely annoying - I had to get out of the video