The Reality for Wrexham AFC Next Season...
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 มิ.ย. 2024
- Wrexham have just had back to back promotions but could they be playing championship football after next season….? This week we talk about...
- The increased revenue in league 1 football
- How increased capacity can drive their push for the Premier League
- What financial rules must they abide by
And lots, lots more
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*** Wrexham AFC , I know 😂
Surviving a relegation fight or mid table next season is surely their goal. League 1 is a big step up. It's only gonna get harder, but I do hope they push on and get promotion number three. 2 years from now they could be a new Premier League side. Stranger things have happened. I genuinely wish them success next season. It's a fascinating and wholesome journey and the fans definitely deserve to see Wrexham thriving once again. Good luck 🤞
@@donnyjepp I think promotion is in reach at this point of time, they can afford it and the management certainly is capable to. But its football mate, just saying theyve got the tools.
I'm so happy for Wrexham. That team and town deserve everything they've earned. Rob and Ryan are the owners that teams wished they had.
Absolutely, well said 💪🏼
Earned?????
I live in Costa Rica, Central America, and I have an original Wrexham shirt, the black one. I loved that shirt when I saw it in season 2 of "Welcome to Wrexham".
It turns out that my youngest daughter traveled to London at the beginning of the year, and to Edinburgh, so, as she knows that I am a Wrexham fan, she arranged for a person from Wales to buy my shirt, and had it delivered to Edinburgh.
Obviously, I wore my shirt on the day of promotion to League 1.
I moved up to North Wales 7 years ago and something people don't realise is the divide between North and South Wales. Wrexham are the only team in North Wales and Rugby is far more of a South Wales obsession, North is football mad. All of North Wales will support Wrexham now and go to matches.
All of north wales supports liverpool mate
@@Itswilliams-xt7ti dead club tho
F**King awesome boys
ccfc scfc. wake up
Going to see Wrexham in Vancouver this summer !!! ⚽️⚽️⚽️
That’s awesome! Hoping to get out ourselves
Im a Wrexham bloke. Born in wxm. Still here.
Good pod. Only thing I'd say is the club was sold for £0 but on the condition that 2mill was injected straight away
Another brand I could imagine putting a bid in for the kit manufacturer is Under Armour. They are making a big push into football shirts and something like the Wrexham kit would be perfect for them with all the free advertising it will bring them .
Yea good shout 💪🏼
I think a part that a lot of people are not talking about is the exposure that wrexham get can attract players that they cant afford ideally. But with all the attention there will surely be players willing to take a pay cut to play for wrexham. Especially when they eventually go to the championship. It's a win-win for both parties. More eyes for said player to build their brand and potential big earnings for wrexham in transfers if they overperform.
I liked the first season of Welcome to Wrexham and season 2 was ok, but I'm not really into season 3. What keeps me as a fan is just the quality of play and the potential for the future.
Season 3 is my favourite so far.
Season 3 is popping off tho
They also got one fan from switzerland here🙋🏻♀️
Great pod. subscribed for the LRZ/Draft coverage, but happy to see some wrexham stuff. looking forward to more of that and the NFL👍🏻
My understanding is that the actual profits from the documentary are going into Rob/Ryan's production companies, and not directly to Wrexham. However, Rob and Ryan (via some commercial entity) are continuing to provide substantial loans to Wrexham, with no apparent repayment schedule in place. So the documentary is underwriting Wrexham indirectly.
Meanwhile, the indirect financial benefits of the documentary to Wrexham AFC are - obviously - massive.
Yes that’s sounds about right. There’s some that don’t like that , but the reality is , Wrexham are benefiting indirectly 💪🏼🙌🏼❤️
@@WhatsTheDealWithSports I believe Rob had sold the 1st two seasons of the docu-series before a club had even been directly targeted for purchase so the payments for those episodes going to a production company would make sense since the deals were signed before the club was even acquired directly.
Don’t forget over 10,000 members £30 a person!! And this season it’s going up
Thank you for the break down of their financials. Its estimated that each episode of Welcome To Wrexham generates about $400,000.
Love the Pod…. You both work well together. A lot of great info!!
Thanks so much Louis
Good program, thank you. Best of luck in future.
Thanks very much , really appreciate the comment
Brilliant watch lads 👏🏻
Thanks so much Liam 💪🏼really appreciate it mate
I think the Welcome to Wrexham contract is with Ryan and Rob, not with Wrexham AFC themselves.
That means that when they say how much money they are putting into the club, they aren't mentioning how much of that is Disney money.
But also: the Disney money can't last forever. No-one's going to watch Season 15 about a mid-table Championship team. They need to build something that is sustainable without Disney's help. And, while Rob and Ryan are rich, they're not rich in the way the Qatari royals are at Paris Saint-Germain to bankroll a top-level club entirely out of pocket indefinitely.
So: perhaps they can make the money back that they are putting into the club from Disney, rather than needing to take money out of the club at some point to repay what they put in. But once there's a 30K stadium and a Championship team, then it needs to pay for itself.
Nicely put Richard, thanks so much for the input
Funny how people keep calling it a Disney show when in reality Disney is a secondary distributor. It's a FX show
They can increase GA ticket price just have a local (must be wrexham resident) raffle ticket set sold for a discount
Season tickets thankfully haven’t gone up if you renewed by a certain date. Think they went up around £20 if you missed the deadline. Enjoyed the pod really good info in there.
Thanks Andrew
New song entering the charts - Super Paul Mullin (Taylors version)
😂😂😂💪🏼
The stadium aspirations spoken about on this show and by Rob may be realistic for the ownership in their minds, but in reality not doable. In America, The NFL stadium in Green Bay, Wisconsin (Lambeau Field) was built up at the original site from a 32,000 seat bowl to eventually, over decades, seat more than 80,000. Knowing the nightmare of getting building permits in the UK, it doesn't seem possible to replicate that knowing how much easier it is to get those permits in the states.
We love the ambition, and in time who knows.
Out of respect to Rob you're going to have to replace those Cowboys footballs with Eagles ones and the Jersey Devils Jersey with a Flyers one.
😂😂😂we’ve got an eagles jersey tbf
With the new Sky contract, I'm interested to see if that's gonna help
The 2022-2023 rest of the world streaming was only available from December on in the National League.
Glad to see you are a fan of the Great State of Texas. Go Cowboys!! Go Rangers!!
Would LOVE to get to Texas some time soon .
That’s 🤣… let’s see if he does it again.
Not sure why lots of football fans slate Wrexham and their owners, I mean Ryan & Rob literally showed you their business model. How are you going to be mad at them for making money & investing in their club? It’s genuinely so funny watching these fans use their brains sometimes.
They’re doing great things with Wrexham. The club is in a great position and it’s clearly having a positive effect on the town and surrounding area. Long may it continue
@@WhatsTheDealWithSports other football owners could learn a thing or two about making money & reinvesting back into the club
Ifoloow is not even close to being a small fee considering you can only watch that specific club games and not the all league, and not even all the games.
that being said, as much as I understood, ESPN is going to start some kind of deal for the next season for broadcasting rights for efl...
as much as the IFollow broadcasters are the best when it comes to Wrexham, Espn as much better quality video and it's not 30 seconds behind live.
ESPN will have games , you’re right. But it’ll only be a selected games. If you want to watch all of them , it’s I follow you need - unless the games are picked for broadcast on ESPN- which a lot of Wrexham’s will be - in that case , you need both 🫣😂
@@WhatsTheDealWithSports whenever the gamme run on both, I would watch it on mute on ESPN while having the sound broadcast of ifoolow on.
that being said, I'm aware on how it was last season, but I read somewhere that they might change the rights so ESPN be able to stream all the games of efl and with that I don't see than giving up on any wrexham games.
also at the same time, ESPN is needed anyway for the cup and thropy games, since they not on ifollow.
one last thing, I think apple tv is also getting some kind of deal for broadcasting like they have with the mls, not sure if the rumer is true or not. either way, we would need to wait and see prob around july we would know for sure
the iFollow subscription fee for outside the UK isn't exactly small. It's about $32 US per month. In contrast that's double the price of MLS, which is $15 per month on Apple TV. Although if you're a season ticket holder for any MLS team you get MLS Apple pass for free. I would also add that Wrexham team merch is a bargain in the USA, where a primary team jersey costs about $48. Compare that to an MLS team jersey at $194. Or an official Tottenham jersey in the USA for $95. Do Americans really pay nearly $200 (£153) for MLS gear? Yes they do, because they're bonkers. Wrexham could likely increase the cost of their merchandise outside the UK and make substantially more money.
That’s crazy the cost of Wrexham jerseys stateside 🤪
I fear they may get battered next season from the big teams such as Birmingham / Hudds
Not sure what amounts to a "small fee" in the UK but my sub to iFollow was $188. And you are only allowed to watch Wrexham.
Closest thing to that price here in the states is the NFL package at +$200 and you get a lot more content for that price.
I don't know what iFollow plans to do this year but, too rich for my blood. I'll support Wrexham in other ways. 👀🤣
If you can watch most Wrexham games for $188 then that’s v good value from a UK point of view
@@WhatsTheDealWithSports Oi. Well then ... I don't know what else to say. lol 😳
30000k stadium for me
I could see 25-35K seating, but 50+ seems overly ambitious especially since Humphrey has stated that there are issues with building the new stand because of what they found tearing down the old one. Stuff not on the plans, etc.
everything is doable with enough money. They should slowly increase capacity to 30k to compete in the championship then try and increase it to 50k for the prem if and when they get there.
The population of Wrexham probably isn't 50,000. There's no way they'd be able to come to close to filling something that big.
@@davidjones272 You realize that fans are allowed to travel to each game from outside Wrexham right?
@@davidjones272 A quick Google search would tell you that it's over that. It's almost triple that amount. But you're right that they would not be able to fill that many seats....at the moment at least. But I do see them gaining more fans outside of Wrexham as they keep getting promoted. If they make it to the prem then they will have no problem filling those seats in my opinion.
Wrexham maybe small but the population of north Wales is over 700,000
Wrexham AFC get £0 directly for WtW. I've heard that a couple of times, no direct payment.
Yes it seems so
All great except for all the Dallas Cowboys swag. You need a real team like Rob’s Philadelphia Eagles represented there!😀🦅
Not the first comment saying this! We got you, Eagles swag incoming
AFC Wrexham? 👀
I know, I know… sometimes things come out wrong 😂
You lucky team, you’ll be playing Posh next season. Quality coming to The Racecourse Ground 🏴
Had some good visits to Peterborough. A dear departed friend of mine was friends with a couple of posh fans and we used to meet up on match days. I did get lost once when I drove looking for the oundle turn off 😂
@@Ricardo-jl6qd Hope you make it OK next time. Oundle a nice place to get lost. Should be interesting to see how your team fares in League One.
Who’s the ghostbusters fan
That’ll be Dave 🙌🏼🔥
Wrexhams’ biggest-ever crowd, in the days when it was mostly standing, was 34,445 against Manchester United in the 1957 FA Cup. I can’t really see how a 50,000 stadium would work, 25-30K maybe. Even raising the capacity to 16500 is slightly problematical for environmental reasons - authorised capacity is, I think, about 600 less than what they’re planning to build, because the towns’ sewerage system isn’t thought to have the capacity to handle the toilets!
50,000 stadiums will work as long as they keep having success. The higher the league, the more people want to see it. This is true based on how much the championship teams get paid compared to League 1 teams. It's not just a small jump in revenue like it is for League 2 going to League 1. They currently have 12,500 seats and are still having massive issues with people not being able to get tickets. They're getting hundreds of ticket sales for people that are overseas. Unfortunately for the team, they will need to increase the seating significantly if they want to compete with the top championship teams. What sucks about that is they will run into issues like you said with the sewerage system that will slow them down.
Very good point. They could offset some of that with grey water cisterns that filter the water for use on the field or recycle back into toilets. Waterless urinals can also drastically reduce water/sewage needs as well. Sill don’t think that would be enough to sustain a stadium bigger than 20K.
Those sewage limitations you refer to have now been lifted and the full capacity has been given the green light. So it will be up to 16,500 WHEN/IF it actually gets started....which no-one seems to know the answer to (outside of the club of course)!