Been seeing all types of disrespect towards def rebel on Twitter (fuck "X" lol), so decided to do this video just to compare Jim Johnston, CFO$ and def rebel. Still got a new vs old theme songs video in the works, a guess the theme and a songs that were inspired or sampled video so stay tuned (those will eventually come out, don't know when but they will)
@@freakerfaker3711 I refuse to believe people actually hated that theme 🤣 I like it, but it’s not a good theme for Corbin. It would be better for someone else.
There are few songs that Def Rebel does get right though. Roman Reigns' theme is probably the best of the lot, especially when you hear it live at an arena or stadium.
Jim Johnston brought soul to his themes to the point that even the mid carders had dope music. CFO$ had more hits than misses in their tenure. Def Rebel has this habit of us getting at least two or three good themes…but we have to sit through seven or eight mid/lame ones.
Bullshit, most mid card songs Jim Johnston released were boring instrumentals, CFO is heavy revisionism because I remember most of the sentiment surrounding them when they were the main music people was the same as you've listed for Def Rebel.
I like Jim Johnston but knock it off saying he never made a bad theme especially since he actually just copied and sampled a lot of other popular songs. I’m surprised WWE was never sued over it
People shit on CFO$, but they really tend to forger that they're the same artists that's brought us "Demon" Finn Balor theme, Bobby Roode theme, Shinsuke Nakamura theme, AJ Styles theme, Uso's theme etc 🔥👌🏾 However I do agree that the loop were annoying since the beginning of the songs were often bangers looped for 5 min
@@reaperztm3585It would be as short as It is now but instead of You hearing the same 4 times in a row It'll be single or make It 3 minutes so It repeats 2 times at max. The song release plan was just horrible on CFO, like AJ theme It's a 2-ish minute theme and good, released as I think 6-7 minute song...
Other good CFO$ themes: Jhonny Gargano "Rebel heart" Tommaso ciampa "no one Will survive" D.I.Y "Chrome hearts" Alister black "Roots of all evil" Ricochet "One and only" Pete Dunne 'Bruiserweight" Tyler bate "inaugural" Undisputed era "Undisputed" Asuka "The future" Bobby roode "Glorious Domination" Etc.
In Jim's defense, some of the themes here are from when some of these wrestlers hadn't defined their characters yet. Like, Naomi was just using Brodus' theme.
@@andrewparker1622 not always... how many people sang along to them compared to, say, Seth or Shinsuke now. "One of a Kind" got people participate but it had melody ripped off from "I think I'm Paranoid".
I enjoyed a lot of the CFO$ themes and I always saw people shitting on them, been crazy to see that now apparently everyone loved them. How can we forget the legendary "CFO$ makes 30 seconds themes and loops them" complaint
First, they can crap on CFO$ for being so repetitive. Now, these same people are crapping on Def Rebel for nearly no reason and wanting CFO$ to come back. Fickle.
It’s not that we secretly loved cfo$ all along. There’s a clear drop from Jim to CFO$, it’s just that the drop from CFO$ to Def Rebel is even bigger, and def Rebel sucks so much that even cfo looks really good
@@kidz4p509 Def Rebel's music is generic as F, there's a major problem when people have to look at titantron vids to know who's coming out in the royal rumble
Depends on the case, Baron Corbin's Def rebel theme song is leagues above is CFO. Def Rebel have made some of the greatest wrestling theme songs. It's just they also make the most mid
You're godamn right. If they want to suck CFO$ let's go but DEF REBEL is better xD and Jim is the GOAT. Dont forget thar DR did the theme of the tribal chief Roman Reigns !
After watching I realized Def rebel CAN make bangers if he tries but when he misses he really misses hard. CFO was dependable. Most themes solid no complaints JJ never missed and when he did rarely it was still catchy.
@@ltagames01 He is also a producer with 4 grammy awards, you can have more than 1 job you know.. Though he does put very little effort into the wwe work, The darker themes and heel work is generally decent from him, the rest is crap. Also its a single person called Douglas J. Davis who is an entertainment lawyer and record producer, not a bunch of lawyers as you so claim.
@P3TER_Official23 it's not. It is the 1 guy. The rest just work for him in partnership or subordinate, which is why only his name is consistent, and the others always change about. Wwe probably didn't allow him to use his own name for licensing reasons and contracts so they wouldn't have future issues again.
Part 2 Jim Johnston vs CFO$ vs def rebel:- Sheamus (Written In My Face by Jim Johnston, Hellfire by CFO$, Ten Beats Of The Bodhrán by def rebel) Shelton Benjamin (Ain't No Stopping Me Now by Jim Johnston, Set It Off by CFO$, Bomb by def rebel) Tamina (Tropical Storm by Jim Johnston, What You Think by CFO$, Savagery by def rebel) Jinder Mahal (Main Yash Hun by Jim Johnston, Sher by CFO$, Vari Vari by def rebel) Emma (Who's That Girl by Jim Johnston, Real Deal by CFO$, About Me by def rebel) Erick Rowan (Sheepherder by Jim Johnston, Brotherhood by CFO$, Cyclops by def rebel) Curt Hawkins (In the Middle of it Now by Jim Johnston, Face the Facts by CFO$, Still Major by def rebel) Brands & PLEs (Raw, SmackDown, NXT, SummerSlam, etc)
Honestly, Def Rebel’s theme for Bobby Lashley is the best he’s had. I love his original 2007 theme, but he was also a happy go-lucky rookie. Nowadays he’s frightening and huge, which the theme reflects
Jim Johnston read them better than a CT scan ever could. He knew how to match the personality of a hair on a wrestler's neck with the music. A true gem.
Fr I mean the info he was given for Undertaker, and he made what ended up being a timeless classic, a track that as soon as it played, you know who was coming before the beat even dropped.
Def Rebel got some songs Accidentally right, because they're just a group of Lawyers and not a music production company, also, Def Rebel is the name owned by WWE, so whoever is the creator will work under this name
_"Def Rebel is the name owned by WWE, so whoever is the creator will work under this name"_ So they could literally fire ALL the djdtp guys, bring in a whole new team of ducks, still call it def rebel, and nobody would notice. Jim Johnston could literally come back as the lead composer or director of the team lowkey and it still be called def rebel. So much for that stupid hashtag.
@anonymousnobody326 that ALSO explains why so much of them sound like stock music, it's exactly what uncredited intern would write, or someone doing royalty free stuff. A lot is just doing the job instead of trying to score a hit, knowing you won't get the credit.
My personal picks: Corbin: Jim Johnston Lashley: CFO$ (Def Rebel was close) Dallas/Howdy: Def Rebel Cesaro: CFO$ Gallows: CFO$ Naomi: CFO$ Rollins: Jim Johnston (CFO$ is close, but nothing can beat Shield) Usos: CFO$ Woods: Jim Johnston
My hot take is CFO$ and Jim Johnston are equally good. I think they have the same batting average in terms of memorable, enjoyable themes. I feel like people are always a little too harsh on whoever the new guy doing the music is, and now that CFO$ aren't the new guys, we're seeing a little more appreciation for them which I think was always kind of deserved.
That’s a horrible take but we can all agree to disagree Jim Johnson has so many classics that wasn’t even make the list we are talking even wrestlers who weee there for a short time has lively amazing themes that has so much soul and matched the character cfos have some great themes but they are no in the same league as Jim Johnson
I disagree, Jim Johnston made mostly full tracks and had much better themes than CFO$. CFO$ didn't get the run that Jim had in terms of time so they obviously have less themes but a lot of them aren't really regarded in the same way Jim's were. Like people like Bill DeMott and Rico had themes people loved, you didn't really get that with CFO$; Lower end people got Vector cereal commercial background music as their theme (immediately thought of Shelton's terrible CFO$ theme when I typed that). I wish WWE would've used Stock music for more lower end people like they did in the past and only let CFO$ (and now Def Rebel) make themes for more intricate/established characters (also stop making everything a loop). Some stock music used in the past is quite memorable like "Loaded" for the Hardy Boyz or "Ollie Stalefish" for the Dudley's.
There was so much tripe in Johnstones era as well, most midcarders had generic heavy riff themes with no vocals that all blended together@@nocapnofilter2026
The difference between CFO/Def Rebel and Johnston is one thing, CFO and Rebel would go with whatever seems to be hip to listen to, modify it a little bit to somewhat feel a character the wrestler is supposedly. Johnston made huge research to get the character right, characters that were - at that time - very well defined. Quick example : Go listen to the two music of the Juraj Herz rendition of Beauty and the Beast by Petr Hapka, it is an incredibly gothic twist on the fairy tale, and you could hear Mankind's entrance and exit theme in both music (Beast's theme being Mankind's entrance, and Belle's theme being his exit one). Heck, he basically added an extra section to Chopin's Funeral March to make the Undertaker's theme. To CFO's credit, they did that as well, Samoa Joe has used Godzilla's intro music for himself, and his theme "Destroyer" is clearly taken from the score of "Godzilla vs Destoroyah" (hence the title of "Destroyer), but those were few and far between were Jim nearly did that on every wrestler and show he worked on. (He'd still be opportunistic, tho, the first SmackDown theme was him riding the coat tail of mumble rap, and Warrior's theme was ripping off the big guitar solo from Medieval Steel's song "Medieval Steel") But most importanatly, Jim's scores could be listened on their own, from Medal to It's Time all the way to Gold Lust (wich he considers his very best, and no wonder why), they're just masterpieces, you really need to love the wrestlers to like the CFO or Rebel music most of the time, or at least you cannot really listen to it outside of thinking of that wrestler. I'd listen to Gold Lust while drawing or doing exercice. Rebel's tracks are music made to force some stadium chants out of it, Johnston's track were made so the characters would exist even oustide of merely a match or a TV appearance, he treated them like archetypes that needed proper presentation to be "summoned".
I see many comments defending CFO$ for their Bobby Roode or Nakamura themes. Just comment that Jonston worked on the original version of Nakamura's theme before CFO$ took full control of the production, so, part of the credit for the theme goes to Johnston (and CFO$ of course). In the case of Roode, although it is credited to CFO$, Jim Johnston worked on some final fixes before its release.
CFO$ wasn't that bad, I'd prefer them over def rebel anytime. Just listen to the Social Outkasts entrance music and you can kinda give a new appreciation to CFO$, they're not always bad.
They were not perfect, but they are far for being bad, CFO$ made a lot of songs that now are missed and some wrestlers are using those because they know that def rebel sucks
@@ChanT3They varied. Yes you had your generic rock song with no lyrics but at least it came together unlike a lot of the messy trap with other weird out of place instruments that def rebel produces and it ends up sounding bad. Sometimes CFO$ were able to make banger themes, just listen to B-team "battle scars". 🔥
@@yachtysworld CFO$ sucked dude. Jim being replaced by such lazy “composers” who were on record saying they weren’t wrestling fans and that they wanted to use their status in WWE to go compose for video games.
the one thing i love about Jim Johnston is he make everyone theme bangger whenever they are jobber or top star. while CFO$ problem is they only make 30 sec theme then loop it 4 minutes. and Def rebel problem is they make banger theme (just for Top Superstar) and kinda gave mid-jobber superstar "Generic 7" ahh theme. . WELL SCRAP THAT! DEF REBEL TRASH CUZ THEY MAKE BRON BREAKKER THEME SONG WITH GENERIC AI THEME :V (i think A.I. theme can make better theme for Bron Breakker)
@@aaron_aj_knight_95 fr. and i think they just gave up. Cuz if i think about it. most of def rebel 'GOOD' and 'BANGGER' music. didnt have that stupid catchphase. (TrickWillian, Bobby Lasley, SethRollins Messiah, Ilja, BaronCorbin, etc.)
My Sonauto track and prompt written in Udio Roman Reigns theme sounds great actually. Sonauto definitely gets it's lyrics from wikipedia but thats the idea you need stuff like Head of the Table in the Chorus I feel so the Sonauto and Udio combi pulled up trumps as well as a 5% progress at a time making it about 8 minutes + non looped for such a slow entrance and match end as his whilst for a faster wrestler 10-20% builds might be better on the new Udio system. Udio and Sonauto together definitely makes better than def rebel already.
Listen to the difference in production between Jimmy J/CFO$ and def rebel when it comes to Corbin and Jey’s themes. Idk what it is, but the instrumentation on def rebel’s themes a lot of the time just sound “cheap” for whatever reason.
Jim Johnston is just different. Different sound, different instruments, different vocals, different feel. Those shoes were never gonna be completely filled.
Cfo's Had this Modern Gravitas to their themes that I can't explain.. Like Their Shinsuke, Seth Rollins, even Bo Dallas Themes had this epic, orchestral thing going on, that I appreciate.
For me : -I bring the darkness -All mighty -Feared -Miracle (i'm french so hearing a superstar theme in my native language makes it special) -Omen in the sky -Glow -The second coming -Main event ish & Born a king (def rebel made 2 absolute BANGERS for the twins, absolutely LOVE them) -New day, new way Jim : 3 CFO$ : 2 Def rebel : 4 (5?)
Corbin: Jim Lashley: CFO$ Bo: Def Rebel Cesaro: Def Rebel Gallows: Def Rebel (but CFO$ is almost as good) Naomi: CFO$ Seth: CFO$ (I would give it to Jim if he made a Seth solo theme) USOs: CFO$ (kinda unfair to Def Rebel cuz they just made their solo themes) Woods: Johnston (New Day theme is just goated) CFO$ wins imo but if Jim stayed to make the current themes he would for sure be on top of
This was my final tally. Was surprised they all tied. Also side note. All 3 themes for Lashley and Rollins are BANGERS! Jim Johnston - 3 CFO$ - 3 Def Rebel - 3
What I love about the Jim Johnson era is that he had some old school rnb tunes under his belt and those are most entertaining for me. The hip hop /rnb bangers >>
Jim Johnson 3 - CFO$ 4 - DEF Rebel 1 Baron Corbin - Jim Johnson Bobby Lashley - CFO$ Bo Dallas - Def Rebel Cesaro - CFO$ Luke Gallows - CFO$ Naomi - CFO$ Seth Rollins - Jim Johnson The Usos - CFO$ Xavier Woods - Jim Johnson CFO$ were always my favourite WWE music makers.
The thing is, JJ rarely wrote an entire theme before he knew anything about the wrestler. Famously Nakamura's theme was originally going to be Roode's. CFO$ just wrote a bunch of music and then they tried to find someone to pair with it. The other thing was most of his best themes had that opening that told you who was coming out. Outside of a few, most of them all sound so generic and interchangeable.
JJ is the GOAT no disputing that. But I’m very surprised to see many people saying CFO$ is better than Def Rebel. I personally thought CFO$ was either untalented or lazy. They pumped out the worst theme songs with the majority of them being remix vibes that just doesn’t really give the wrestlers an important feel. It left me as a fan feeling like they just made a bunch of sons THEN decided later who to give the songs to. Def Rebel has been a noticeable breath of fresh air. I think they have room to improve but I’m glad CFO$ is in the rear view. They did have a couple songs that I didn’t mind in this list though.
I’ll be the one to give def rebel some love here…Rollins, Reigns, Bobby, Jimmy Uso, Woods, Trick Williams, Solo, LA Knight, Carmelo Hayes, Ilja Dragunov all have banger themes. But that’s pretty bad when you realize how deep the roster is
Most of the Def Rebel Songs are not bad, but others were just better for the Wrestler, lets take Bobby Lashley, the CFO's theme was just so Badass and the Def rebel one was more Tamed down
Agreed, although I think Bobby Lashley of all people isn't the best example. Better would be I think Cesaro which is a good theme but feels so weak compare to the other 2
Baron Corbin holds the honor of being one of the last wrestlers to receive a theme by Jim Johnston. Def Rebel’s recent cooks have been with Jey and Jimmy’s themes
Gonna score all these comparisons. 1st place gets 4, 2nd place gets 2, 3rd place gets 0, add 2 to each if I think the theme is actually good. • Baron Corbin: Jim Johnston (+6), CFO$ (+4), def rebel (+2) Good thing he came back to his old self with Burn My Ships, otherwise def rebel would've got a 0. • Bobby Lashley: Jim Johnston (+6), def rebel (+4), CFO$ (+2) Dominance was a missed opportunity by CFO$, the face and heel versions of that theme combined into a full track would've been immense. • Bo Dallas: Jim Johnston (+6), def rebel (+4), CFO$ (0) Going from that epic rock track to faux-inspirational heaven music was the moment Bo Dallas' first run was doomed to comedy heel status. • Cesaro: Jim Johnston (+6), def rebel (+4). CFO$ (-16...just kidding, can't do that, 0) Seriously, has everyone forgotten how *CLAUDIO OPENLY HATED THE NOISE CFO$ GAVE HIM WHILE HE HAD IT????* • Doc Gallows: CFO$ (+6), def rebel (+4), Jim Johnston (0) Holy shit, I did not expect I would find the wrestler that got me to write a 0 for JJ. Omen in the Sky would be one of the greatest themes ever if it were a finished song. • Naomi: Jim Johnston (+6), def rebel (+2), CFO$ (0) Both CFO$ and def rebel's themes are fine for the Glow gimmick, but not really my cup of tea. Also, this reminds me the original Amazing was the better version. • Seth Rollins: def rebel (+6), Jim Johnston (+4), CFO$ (0) I will NEVER forget how the drastic audio contrast between that start-stop guitar riff and Motorhead's "The Game" made Seth look like he did not belong fighting Triple H. • The Usos: CFO$ (+6), Jim Johnston (+4), def rebel (+2) Do not like Jey's vocals in his def rebel solo theme, but other than that they were all good. Day One Ish is just the definitive Uso theme IMO. • Xavier Woods: def rebel (+6), Jim Johnston (+2), CFO$ (0) New Day's booty pancake gimmick which I was not a fan of was louder than their theme, and Woods' CFO$ theme sounds like a mid experiment. TOTAL SCORE: Jim Johnston (40), def rebel (34), CFO$ (18) So...anybody notice a pattern? Whenever CFO$ had to pick up the ball for a wrestler who had a Jim Johnston theme first, they were usually either decent or pretty bad in comparison. It's actually surprising to see them improve on something that Jim did. Meanwhile, on the rare occasion Jim got to replace a CFO$ theme for a wrestler before he got let go, referencing Corbin and Woods here, it was guaranteed to be a net improvement.
Unpopular opinion: Def Rebel isn't always that bad. Not a fan of them, I actually don't like some of th theme songs they made, but they can actually be good at times.
I’m just glad that this is actually an objective comparison. Yes I’m still on the Jim Johnston is the G.O.A.T train, but there have been hits, misses and straight bangers from all!
Don't get me wrong def rebel can make grest music, Iyo Sky - Rollins - Lashley - Roman - The Fiend, but the problem is They are way too inconsistent for the bangers to truly shine
@@0stb01ii2 I know but under def rebel, like Aleisters wasn't done by CFO$ by They are still credited, def rebel were secondary artist and the ones to do the final mixing and most likely helped in other areas too
Thank you so much for this video. It really showcases the importance oh how themes are can have a big impact on wrestlers whole presentation. Jim Johnston is really on top there but I really like CFO$ Toooo they did an amazing job with themes like (Naomi, AJ Styles, Paige, Lana) and more. But Def Rebel is just in needing of „it“ . They need to do more with vocals and less beats and trap type ish themes. I mean all themes are just sounding hip hopy. But they did an amazing job with themes Like : Seth Rollins, Roman Reigns, The Usos, Liv Morgan (Nah Nah), Naomi, Cheslea Green, Piper Niven, Zelina Vega and more.
Says the same fans said “CFO sucks” dude why can’t you get your facts straight. You guys used to trash CFO what’s next after Def Rebel you guys will trash another Music who randomly makes WWE Music like shut the fuck up and get your facts straight dumbass
Baron Corbin: Johnston Lashley: Def Rebel Bo Dallas: CFO$ Claudio: CFO$ Gallows: CFO$, but all are great! Trinity: CFO$ Rollins: CFO$ (DR a close 2nd) Jey: CFO$ (DR literally copied it) Jimmy: Def Rebel Xavier Woods: Jim Johnston What I learned opinionizing these myself is that Johnston was far better suited for an older era and heavily relied on formulaic radio sounding vocal accompanied tracks. Def Rebel can make good songs now and then but for the most part (with the exception of Rollins theme and ill say Roman even though hes not on this list) they are all very generic. Lashley's best theme in my opinion is through Def Rebel however. And last but not least what I learned is that CFO$ is severely and I mean severely underrated. I definitely think this list showed how awesome CFO$ actually was at making purely instrumental themes that suited a wrestler's character. For as much as people clamber to bring back Johnston I would say bring in someone entirely new to try it out or go back to CFO$. One of my personal favorite CFO$ tracks was Curtis Axel's theme music. Especially if you knew the melody of Mr. perfects theme. If you stuck around this far to read this thank you for your time!
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Been seeing all types of disrespect towards def rebel on Twitter (fuck "X" lol), so decided to do this video just to compare Jim Johnston, CFO$ and def rebel.
Still got a new vs old theme songs video in the works, a guess the theme and a songs that were inspired or sampled video so stay tuned (those will eventually come out, don't know when but they will)
There was a death threat towards them in one post.
@@kidz4p509 I understand you don’t like someone’s work, but let’s not throw death threats at anyone.
@@AdrianM865 Well, the person who posted the threat I saw didn’t care when I confronted them. They intended to order an assassination on Def Rebel.
@@kidz4p509 that’s normally how it goes lol. Keyboard courage is funny.
yeh. ppl dont remember that jey uso, jimmy, bobby, and most importantly Roman's theme is def rebel
Jim Johnston: It was rare that he produced a bad theme
CFO$: Good themes, a few of them bad.
def rebel: It's rare that they produce a good theme
Because WWE doesn't pay them that much
@@Kevnumber2 WWE pays them a one off fee so they won’t pay residuals, so def rebel don’t bring their A game
Naomi’s was definitely a rare Jim Johnston L
@@p00pyman695that’s true
More like def rebel are just lazy, edits from the wrestlers' previous themes
Jim Johnston for the WWE Hall of Fame
YES!!!
Isn't he already in?
@@lorenzoveronese1489 no sadly
Yes
Baron Corbin has mostly had bangers except the Happy Corbin theme
To me Happy Corbin 1st theme was banger too for me it's fun to listen😂
2nd version was ass
Is that the casino sounding song? That's my favorite wrestling theme OF ALL TIME❤
@@freakerfaker3711 I refuse to believe people actually hated that theme 🤣 I like it, but it’s not a good theme for Corbin. It would be better for someone else.
What you on about happy corbin's theme was a bop! The jbl remix sucked though.
It's sad how Def Rebel songs are mostly limited to generic drum and distinguishing beats. It really ruins the wrestler's presentation
That is not them fault it’s wwe for making them rush out new themes
There are few songs that Def Rebel does get right though. Roman Reigns' theme is probably the best of the lot, especially when you hear it live at an arena or stadium.
It sounds like white country southern hicks singing
Def Rebel still had a handful of good bangers like Roman Reigns, Rhea Ripley, LA Knight
@@blackstewiegriffindef rebal ain’t make her theme
Edit: her current one I should say
Jim Johnston brought soul to his themes to the point that even the mid carders had dope music. CFO$ had more hits than misses in their tenure. Def Rebel has this habit of us getting at least two or three good themes…but we have to sit through seven or eight mid/lame ones.
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Idk man, CFO$ had some stinkers and didn't drop all too many great ones.
My opinion on def rebel is the two extremes of ether a great theme or a bad one and only a couple that are somewhere in between.
Bullshit, most mid card songs Jim Johnston released were boring instrumentals, CFO is heavy revisionism because I remember most of the sentiment surrounding them when they were the main music people was the same as you've listed for Def Rebel.
I like Jim Johnston but knock it off saying he never made a bad theme especially since he actually just copied and sampled a lot of other popular songs. I’m surprised WWE was never sued over it
People shit on CFO$, but they really tend to forger that they're the same artists that's brought us "Demon" Finn Balor theme, Bobby Roode theme, Shinsuke Nakamura theme, AJ Styles theme, Uso's theme etc 🔥👌🏾
However I do agree that the loop were annoying since the beginning of the songs were often bangers looped for 5 min
Those loops by CFO$ were catchy and recognizable to listen at least
Tbf if WWE didn't release the songs at a 5 minute mark and just the base (mostly 1 minute and 40-ish seconds) It wouldn't be as bad at all
@@G128_cz Yeah but it would be so damn short 🤣🤣
@@reaperztm3585It would be as short as It is now but instead of You hearing the same 4 times in a row It'll be single or make It 3 minutes so It repeats 2 times at max.
The song release plan was just horrible on CFO, like AJ theme It's a 2-ish minute theme and good, released as I think 6-7 minute song...
This seems like a trend because while Def Rebel does have a lot of very mid themes, they also have a ton of bangers
Jim Johnston is The GOAT
The man deserves a place in the hall of fame.
He needs to come back
Def and cfo won 1 for me each 💀
@@MohamedAmin-kk8kd Same. Omen in the Sky for CFO$ and Feared for Def Rebel. The rest were all big Jim.
So we're gonna forget all of his flops and reused entrance theme?
"Omen in the Sky" is one of those songs that carries CFO$
It's a travesty it gets forgotten
CFO$ is super underrated all their NXT themes were dope
@@bryanmanuelbaes7871Luke and Karl can't get anything over. An actual travesty is giving that song to these two...
Also the sami zayn world's apart one
Other good CFO$ themes:
Jhonny Gargano "Rebel heart"
Tommaso ciampa "no one Will survive"
D.I.Y "Chrome hearts"
Alister black "Roots of all evil"
Ricochet "One and only"
Pete Dunne 'Bruiserweight"
Tyler bate "inaugural"
Undisputed era "Undisputed"
Asuka "The future"
Bobby roode "Glorious Domination"
Etc.
Cesaro’s French hip hop theme is underrated asf
“C’est miracle, there’s poop in his chair”
loved the play on Malenko’s old theme with it too. Malenko had an incredibly underrated theme song as the Iceman
@@Riefvier "zebrae"
The motif sounds a lot like James Bonds License to Kill.
It's Dean Malenko's theme with lyrics and added instruments. Kickass theme.
In Jim's defense, some of the themes here are from when some of these wrestlers hadn't defined their characters yet. Like, Naomi was just using Brodus' theme.
Might we also add woods used that theme as well with Naomi and the other funkadactlys
Who was using Ernest Miller's theme
@anonymousnobody326Peopel don't notice because the themes worked.
@@andrewparker1622 not always... how many people sang along to them compared to, say, Seth or Shinsuke now. "One of a Kind" got people participate but it had melody ripped off from "I think I'm Paranoid".
Also Rollins isn't a fair comparison, Jim didn't have the chance to produce to solo Rollins
I enjoyed a lot of the CFO$ themes and I always saw people shitting on them, been crazy to see that now apparently everyone loved them. How can we forget the legendary "CFO$ makes 30 seconds themes and loops them" complaint
Exactly
Same gonna happen with def rebel
The problem was barely the cfo themes, the 30 second loops were the issue, if their loops were like, 50 seconds instead of 30 it'd be way better
First, they can crap on CFO$ for being so repetitive. Now, these same people are crapping on Def Rebel for nearly no reason and wanting CFO$ to come back.
Fickle.
It’s not that we secretly loved cfo$ all along. There’s a clear drop from Jim to CFO$, it’s just that the drop from CFO$ to Def Rebel is even bigger, and def Rebel sucks so much that even cfo looks really good
@@kidz4p509 Def Rebel's music is generic as F, there's a major problem when people have to look at titantron vids to know who's coming out in the royal rumble
7:16 Okay, that transition was pretty awesome.
When you are a villan and then you turn into a super villan!!!
@@Ary_AshuraWhat's the difference? That's right! The Presentation!
Jim Johnston >>>> CFO$ >>>> Def Rebel
Jim Johnston >>>>>>>>>>> CFO$ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Def Rebel
Stop this bullshit man. Def Rebel is far away better than CFO$
@@djibrildiop760definitely not, but i’ll let your opinion slide.
Depends on the case, Baron Corbin's Def rebel theme song is leagues above is CFO. Def Rebel have made some of the greatest wrestling theme songs. It's just they also make the most mid
You're godamn right. If they want to suck CFO$ let's go but DEF REBEL is better xD and Jim is the GOAT. Dont forget thar DR did the theme of the tribal chief Roman Reigns !
After watching I realized Def rebel CAN make bangers if he tries but when he misses he really misses hard.
CFO was dependable. Most themes solid no complaints
JJ never missed and when he did rarely it was still catchy.
I personally like the CFO$ themes the best and I've been a wrestling fan since I was 7 years-old back in 1991.
He? Def Rebels are a bunch of lawyers
@@ltagames01 He is also a producer with 4 grammy awards, you can have more than 1 job you know.. Though he does put very little effort into the wwe work, The darker themes and heel work is generally decent from him, the rest is crap. Also its a single person called Douglas J. Davis who is an entertainment lawyer and record producer, not a bunch of lawyers as you so claim.
@@RickyT15 *they
It's 2 guys
Ali "Dee" Theodore & Anthony Mirabella III
@P3TER_Official23 it's not. It is the 1 guy. The rest just work for him in partnership or subordinate, which is why only his name is consistent, and the others always change about. Wwe probably didn't allow him to use his own name for licensing reasons and contracts so they wouldn't have future issues again.
Nah but we gotta talk about the "Omen in the Sky" of Luke Gallows bc it was so good 🔥
Agreed!
That was prime OC right there. They were my favorite team back when they used that
@@greattitan371 For real ! I was hyped bc I knew they were coming from NJPW and part of the Bullet Club 🔥
@@greattitan371good news
Easily the good brothers best theme
Baron Corbin has all three themes as bangers
Superhuman is number I didn't even realize how badass that theme is
same with naomi, seth, big LG and the usos 🔥🔥
I grew up with CFOS so I have a special place for them in my heart, but Jim Johnston is the undisputed king of themes
I like cfo more
CFOS has bangers and fits the wrestler, it just lacks lyrics and hence the character that Jim gave each song
The best opinion and reflection I have seen in a long time. Congrats bro
Part 2 Jim Johnston vs CFO$ vs def rebel:-
Sheamus (Written In My Face by Jim Johnston, Hellfire by CFO$, Ten Beats Of The Bodhrán by def rebel)
Shelton Benjamin (Ain't No Stopping Me Now by Jim Johnston, Set It Off by CFO$, Bomb by def rebel)
Tamina (Tropical Storm by Jim Johnston, What You Think by CFO$, Savagery by def rebel)
Jinder Mahal (Main Yash Hun by Jim Johnston, Sher by CFO$, Vari Vari by def rebel)
Emma (Who's That Girl by Jim Johnston, Real Deal by CFO$, About Me by def rebel)
Erick Rowan (Sheepherder by Jim Johnston, Brotherhood by CFO$, Cyclops by def rebel)
Curt Hawkins (In the Middle of it Now by Jim Johnston, Face the Facts by CFO$, Still Major by def rebel)
Brands & PLEs (Raw, SmackDown, NXT, SummerSlam, etc)
7:17 god tier transition
0:01 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Miss the days of Jim Johnston and all the classics he made 🔥😢.
Damn I forgot Cesaro’s miracle theme existed, that theme was 🔥🔥🔥
Pretty sure that was back when Cesaro was the Swiss James Bond.
Honestly, Def Rebel’s theme for Bobby Lashley is the best he’s had. I love his original 2007 theme, but he was also a happy go-lucky rookie. Nowadays he’s frightening and huge, which the theme reflects
All thanks to tna
I love CFO's theme personally
I don't know why after the beat drops I expect to see Liv Morgan doing her old NXT entrance.
Agree
Yea that was the only time I was surprised here, like Oh that was a really good showing for def rebel
Jim Johnston read them better than a CT scan ever could. He knew how to match the personality of a hair on a wrestler's neck with the music. A true gem.
Fr I mean the info he was given for Undertaker, and he made what ended up being a timeless classic, a track that as soon as it played, you know who was coming before the beat even dropped.
@@kevinmoore2474you should listen to him playing it on the piano during an interview with Chris Van Vliet! It’s astonishing, it’s art!
Ah yes, especially how Naomi's... weird funk whatver fit her more than Amazing?.. or it didn't.
@@KasumiRINAthat theme was used more for the funkadactlys than Naomi herself but sure
Def Rebel had a rare win with both Jey and Jimmy Uso's themes.
And Seth and Bobby as well
@@pt2096 also baron coribn
And Bo Dallas as well
Bobby lashley seths and baron corbin
Bo Dallas’ Jim Johnston theme was chefs kiss I was so sad when they didn't have it as his theme on the main roster I Bolieved it could work
Def Rebel got some songs Accidentally right, because they're just a group of Lawyers and not a music production company, also, Def Rebel is the name owned by WWE, so whoever is the creator will work under this name
_"Def Rebel is the name owned by WWE, so whoever is the creator will work under this name"_
So they could literally fire ALL the djdtp guys, bring in a whole new team of ducks, still call it def rebel, and nobody would notice.
Jim Johnston could literally come back as the lead composer or director of the team lowkey and it still be called def rebel.
So much for that stupid hashtag.
@anonymousnobody326 that ALSO explains why so much of them sound like stock music, it's exactly what uncredited intern would write, or someone doing royalty free stuff. A lot is just doing the job instead of trying to score a hit, knowing you won't get the credit.
My personal picks:
Corbin: Jim Johnston
Lashley: CFO$ (Def Rebel was close)
Dallas/Howdy: Def Rebel
Cesaro: CFO$
Gallows: CFO$
Naomi: CFO$
Rollins: Jim Johnston (CFO$ is close, but nothing can beat Shield)
Usos: CFO$
Woods: Jim Johnston
mostly agree except id switch johnston and CFO$ for seth's
as a shield theme is phenomenal, but as seth's it's not really his
Cesaro should be Jim johnson
Well, Naomi's entrance is basically a knock-off of her TNA theme, like Jade Cargill
For me
Corbin : CFO$
Lashley : Def Rebel
Dallas : Jim Johston
Cesaro : Def Rebel
Gallows : CFO$
Naomi : CFO$
Seth Rollins : Banger After Banger After Banger.
Usos : CFO$
Woods : Jim Johston
Dude are you serious ?
Shield ain't even Seth's own song it's theme song of the entire team
It's second coming or Def rebel definitely
0:19 that transitions
My hot take is CFO$ and Jim Johnston are equally good. I think they have the same batting average in terms of memorable, enjoyable themes. I feel like people are always a little too harsh on whoever the new guy doing the music is, and now that CFO$ aren't the new guys, we're seeing a little more appreciation for them which I think was always kind of deserved.
That’s a horrible take but we can all agree to disagree Jim Johnson has so many classics that wasn’t even make the list we are talking even wrestlers who weee there for a short time has lively amazing themes that has so much soul and matched the character cfos have some great themes but they are no in the same league as Jim Johnson
@@nocapnofilter2026i feel like you’re only saying that because of nostalgia no offense
I disagree, Jim Johnston made mostly full tracks and had much better themes than CFO$. CFO$ didn't get the run that Jim had in terms of time so they obviously have less themes but a lot of them aren't really regarded in the same way Jim's were. Like people like Bill DeMott and Rico had themes people loved, you didn't really get that with CFO$; Lower end people got Vector cereal commercial background music as their theme (immediately thought of Shelton's terrible CFO$ theme when I typed that). I wish WWE would've used Stock music for more lower end people like they did in the past and only let CFO$ (and now Def Rebel) make themes for more intricate/established characters (also stop making everything a loop). Some stock music used in the past is quite memorable like "Loaded" for the Hardy Boyz or "Ollie Stalefish" for the Dudley's.
There was so much tripe in Johnstones era as well, most midcarders had generic heavy riff themes with no vocals that all blended together@@nocapnofilter2026
Agreed
Most of these transitions are really great. Especially the one with Seth Rollins' CFO$ theme into the def rebel theme.
This was a PERFECT cut!
The difference between CFO/Def Rebel and Johnston is one thing, CFO and Rebel would go with whatever seems to be hip to listen to, modify it a little bit to somewhat feel a character the wrestler is supposedly. Johnston made huge research to get the character right, characters that were - at that time - very well defined.
Quick example : Go listen to the two music of the Juraj Herz rendition of Beauty and the Beast by Petr Hapka, it is an incredibly gothic twist on the fairy tale, and you could hear Mankind's entrance and exit theme in both music (Beast's theme being Mankind's entrance, and Belle's theme being his exit one). Heck, he basically added an extra section to Chopin's Funeral March to make the Undertaker's theme. To CFO's credit, they did that as well, Samoa Joe has used Godzilla's intro music for himself, and his theme "Destroyer" is clearly taken from the score of "Godzilla vs Destoroyah" (hence the title of "Destroyer), but those were few and far between were Jim nearly did that on every wrestler and show he worked on. (He'd still be opportunistic, tho, the first SmackDown theme was him riding the coat tail of mumble rap, and Warrior's theme was ripping off the big guitar solo from Medieval Steel's song "Medieval Steel")
But most importanatly, Jim's scores could be listened on their own, from Medal to It's Time all the way to Gold Lust (wich he considers his very best, and no wonder why), they're just masterpieces, you really need to love the wrestlers to like the CFO or Rebel music most of the time, or at least you cannot really listen to it outside of thinking of that wrestler. I'd listen to Gold Lust while drawing or doing exercice. Rebel's tracks are music made to force some stadium chants out of it, Johnston's track were made so the characters would exist even oustide of merely a match or a TV appearance, he treated them like archetypes that needed proper presentation to be "summoned".
Corbin is the only wrestler that has Banger theme songs no matter who the composers are
Happy corbin was hella mid
@@PallysCafe Let's pretend it didn't exist🤣
@@agustinbogado513 can do
so close now is such an under-appreciated banger makes me feel sick
They all cook with corbans 😂
def rebels was best imo
I see many comments defending CFO$ for their Bobby Roode or Nakamura themes. Just comment that Jonston worked on the original version of Nakamura's theme before CFO$ took full control of the production, so, part of the credit for the theme goes to Johnston (and CFO$ of course). In the case of Roode, although it is credited to CFO$, Jim Johnston worked on some final fixes before its release.
End of days is a goat theme
Very surprised that Jim Johnston made “I bring the darkness”, didn't cfo$ do all the themes from 2016?
That was Jim's last theme
Jim Johnston -1980's/1990's/2000's/Early 2010's
CFO$ - Mid/Late 2010's/Early 2020's
Def Rebel - 2020's/Present
When def rebel made theme song its either gonna be great or bad as fck, no between in them.
CFO$ wasn't that bad, I'd prefer them over def rebel anytime. Just listen to the Social Outkasts entrance music and you can kinda give a new appreciation to CFO$, they're not always bad.
They were not perfect, but they are far for being bad, CFO$ made a lot of songs that now are missed and some wrestlers are using those because they know that def rebel sucks
@@opinologoinnecesario3058I won't ever forget when WWE was bullied by fans to give Street Profits "Bring the Swag" theme back XD
CFO$ made jingles not themes
@@ChanT3They varied. Yes you had your generic rock song with no lyrics but at least it came together unlike a lot of the messy trap with other weird out of place instruments that def rebel produces and it ends up sounding bad. Sometimes CFO$ were able to make banger themes, just listen to B-team "battle scars". 🔥
@@yachtysworld CFO$ sucked dude. Jim being replaced by such lazy “composers” who were on record saying they weren’t wrestling fans and that they wanted to use their status in WWE to go compose for video games.
the one thing i love about Jim Johnston is he make everyone theme bangger whenever they are jobber or top star.
while CFO$ problem is they only make 30 sec theme then loop it 4 minutes.
and Def rebel problem is they make banger theme (just for Top Superstar) and kinda gave mid-jobber superstar "Generic 7" ahh theme.
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WELL SCRAP THAT! DEF REBEL TRASH CUZ THEY MAKE BRON BREAKKER THEME SONG WITH GENERIC AI THEME :V (i think A.I. theme can make better theme for Bron Breakker)
Don't forget the annoying voice clip intros with the person saying their name (Def Rebel)
@@aaron_aj_knight_95 fr. and i think they just gave up. Cuz if i think about it. most of def rebel 'GOOD' and 'BANGGER' music. didnt have that stupid catchphase. (TrickWillian, Bobby Lasley, SethRollins Messiah, Ilja, BaronCorbin, etc.)
My Sonauto track and prompt written in Udio Roman Reigns theme sounds great actually. Sonauto definitely gets it's lyrics from wikipedia but thats the idea you need stuff like Head of the Table in the Chorus I feel so the Sonauto and Udio combi pulled up trumps as well as a 5% progress at a time making it about 8 minutes + non looped for such a slow entrance and match end as his whilst for a faster wrestler 10-20% builds might be better on the new Udio system.
Udio and Sonauto together definitely makes better than def rebel already.
I really like this list! Wrestlers who had a taste of 3 different music artists!
Thank you for reminding me of the abomination that was Cesaro CFO$ theme
Make more of these, these videos are really entertaining
On Seth’s theme the transition from the second coming to the visionary was clean I see what you did there
Listen to the difference in production between Jimmy J/CFO$ and def rebel when it comes to Corbin and Jey’s themes. Idk what it is, but the instrumentation on def rebel’s themes a lot of the time just sound “cheap” for whatever reason.
There’s no “soul” behind it
Just manufactured
Jim made SOOOO many iconic themes. No one can compare. His tracks made my childhood.
Jim Johnston is just different. Different sound, different instruments, different vocals, different feel. Those shoes were never gonna be completely filled.
CFO$ had so much banger 🔥🔥 music WWE should hire them back
I wish, but the group broke up after their upper managment took them out of WWE which CFO$ could do nothing about
Cfo's Had this Modern Gravitas to their themes that I can't explain.. Like Their Shinsuke, Seth Rollins, even Bo Dallas Themes had this epic, orchestral thing going on, that I appreciate.
For me :
-I bring the darkness
-All mighty
-Feared
-Miracle (i'm french so hearing a superstar theme in my native language makes it special)
-Omen in the sky
-Glow
-The second coming
-Main event ish & Born a king (def rebel made 2 absolute BANGERS for the twins, absolutely LOVE them)
-New day, new way
Jim : 3
CFO$ : 2
Def rebel : 4 (5?)
IDK how you can even count Main Event Ish as a W for Def Rebel when it's just the Uso's theme redone worse lo
This list has only reminded me how much I love CFO$. Often times on this list, they have my fav of the 3.
Corbin: Jim
Lashley: CFO$
Bo: Def Rebel
Cesaro: Def Rebel
Gallows: Def Rebel (but CFO$ is almost as good)
Naomi: CFO$
Seth: CFO$ (I would give it to Jim if he made a Seth solo theme)
USOs: CFO$ (kinda unfair to Def Rebel cuz they just made their solo themes)
Woods: Johnston (New Day theme is just goated)
CFO$ wins imo but if Jim stayed to make the current themes he would for sure be on top of
Corbin and The Usos both with the trilogy of bangers by all 3 artists
Jim Johnston produced the most memorable themes of all time.
The theme of Usos by Jim Johnston is underrated
I'll give it to Deaf rebel... Return of the fire for Cesaro was really good
This was my final tally. Was surprised they all tied. Also side note. All 3 themes for Lashley and Rollins are BANGERS!
Jim Johnston - 3
CFO$ - 3
Def Rebel - 3
What I love about the Jim Johnson era is that he had some old school rnb tunes under his belt and those are most entertaining for me. The hip hop
/rnb bangers >>
Jim johnston will be always the legend for making theme songs for wwe superstars
Jim Johnson 3 - CFO$ 4 - DEF Rebel 1
Baron Corbin - Jim Johnson
Bobby Lashley - CFO$
Bo Dallas - Def Rebel
Cesaro - CFO$
Luke Gallows - CFO$
Naomi - CFO$
Seth Rollins - Jim Johnson
The Usos - CFO$
Xavier Woods - Jim Johnson
CFO$ were always my favourite WWE music makers.
In my opinion def rebel cesaro was my favorite
Cesaro famously HATED his CFO$ theme.
Never understood the love for Cesaro's theme. It sounds like noise to me.
Cfo are my favorite too
@@hectorgonzalezpulido8683And I never understood the hate. That guitar goes crazy in that song dude lol
CORBIN :JIM
BOBBY LASHLEY :CFO
CESARO :DEF
bruh u got some problem in your ears blud for putting over that generic movie trailer soundtrack for cesaro over his othere themes
Ever heard of preference?@ShivamNuniwal
1:01 bobby original theme song is such a bangerrer and he was using the dominator as his Finisher but truly bobby theme has been bangers
1:24 is a good transition nobodys talking about
1:00 btw the song was played by Mercy fall
No, it wasn't.
But produced by Johnston
@@clytaemnestraLook it up and you will see that what I say is true
The USOs have always had good themes it’s impressive
Who's here to ask for comparison of Sheamus after he got a new def rebel theme ???
Jim Johnston made David Outunga have aura with his theme 🙏 truly a generational music producer ☝️
Jim Johnston and CFO$ is the best
The thing is, JJ rarely wrote an entire theme before he knew anything about the wrestler. Famously Nakamura's theme was originally going to be Roode's. CFO$ just wrote a bunch of music and then they tried to find someone to pair with it.
The other thing was most of his best themes had that opening that told you who was coming out. Outside of a few, most of them all sound so generic and interchangeable.
JJ is the GOAT no disputing that. But I’m very surprised to see many people saying CFO$ is better than Def Rebel. I personally thought CFO$ was either untalented or lazy. They pumped out the worst theme songs with the majority of them being remix vibes that just doesn’t really give the wrestlers an important feel. It left me as a fan feeling like they just made a bunch of sons THEN decided later who to give the songs to. Def Rebel has been a noticeable breath of fresh air. I think they have room to improve but I’m glad CFO$ is in the rear view. They did have a couple songs that I didn’t mind in this list though.
Jim Johnston stuff genuinely feels like you all have nostalgia goggles on
Def Rebel needs to stop making theme songs just to change them months later.
CFO$❤❤
I’ll be the one to give def rebel some love here…Rollins, Reigns, Bobby, Jimmy Uso, Woods, Trick Williams, Solo, LA Knight, Carmelo Hayes, Ilja Dragunov all have banger themes. But that’s pretty bad when you realize how deep the roster is
Bro, OG Usos theme is criminally underrated
Most of the Def Rebel Songs are not bad, but others were just better for the Wrestler, lets take Bobby Lashley, the CFO's theme was just so Badass and the Def rebel one was more Tamed down
Agreed, although I think Bobby Lashley of all people isn't the best example.
Better would be I think Cesaro which is a good theme but feels so weak compare to the other 2
Honestly CFO$ had the most wins in my opinion Jim Johnston had more wins than losses and Def Rebel has a few hidden gems but mostly losses
one of these days we gonna need some sort of jim johnston, dale oliver and mikey ruckus comparison
Jim Johnston is 🐐 making wwe theme
Jim Johnston and CFO$ are the best
Def Rebel: "It's the biggest piece of dog shit, that I have ever heard"
Baron Corbin holds the honor of being one of the last wrestlers to receive a theme by Jim Johnston.
Def Rebel’s recent cooks have been with Jey and Jimmy’s themes
Corbin's (minus Happy but we don't talk about that) and Lashley's themes have always been good
Jim Johnston
Def rebel cooked with Roman's theme
My Picks:
Baron Corbin: Jim Johnston
Bobby Lashley: Def Rebel
Uncle Howdy/Bo Dallas: Def Rebel
Cesaro: CFO$
Luke Gallows: CFO$
Naomi: CFO$
Seth Rollins: Def Rebel
Jey Uso: Def Rebel
Jimmy Uso: CFO$
Xavier Woods: CFO$
Gonna score all these comparisons. 1st place gets 4, 2nd place gets 2, 3rd place gets 0, add 2 to each if I think the theme is actually good.
• Baron Corbin: Jim Johnston (+6), CFO$ (+4), def rebel (+2)
Good thing he came back to his old self with Burn My Ships, otherwise def rebel would've got a 0.
• Bobby Lashley: Jim Johnston (+6), def rebel (+4), CFO$ (+2)
Dominance was a missed opportunity by CFO$, the face and heel versions of that theme combined into a full track would've been immense.
• Bo Dallas: Jim Johnston (+6), def rebel (+4), CFO$ (0)
Going from that epic rock track to faux-inspirational heaven music was the moment Bo Dallas' first run was doomed to comedy heel status.
• Cesaro: Jim Johnston (+6), def rebel (+4). CFO$ (-16...just kidding, can't do that, 0)
Seriously, has everyone forgotten how *CLAUDIO OPENLY HATED THE NOISE CFO$ GAVE HIM WHILE HE HAD IT????*
• Doc Gallows: CFO$ (+6), def rebel (+4), Jim Johnston (0)
Holy shit, I did not expect I would find the wrestler that got me to write a 0 for JJ. Omen in the Sky would be one of the greatest themes ever if it were a finished song.
• Naomi: Jim Johnston (+6), def rebel (+2), CFO$ (0)
Both CFO$ and def rebel's themes are fine for the Glow gimmick, but not really my cup of tea. Also, this reminds me the original Amazing was the better version.
• Seth Rollins: def rebel (+6), Jim Johnston (+4), CFO$ (0)
I will NEVER forget how the drastic audio contrast between that start-stop guitar riff and Motorhead's "The Game" made Seth look like he did not belong fighting Triple H.
• The Usos: CFO$ (+6), Jim Johnston (+4), def rebel (+2)
Do not like Jey's vocals in his def rebel solo theme, but other than that they were all good. Day One Ish is just the definitive Uso theme IMO.
• Xavier Woods: def rebel (+6), Jim Johnston (+2), CFO$ (0)
New Day's booty pancake gimmick which I was not a fan of was louder than their theme, and Woods' CFO$ theme sounds like a mid experiment.
TOTAL SCORE: Jim Johnston (40), def rebel (34), CFO$ (18)
So...anybody notice a pattern? Whenever CFO$ had to pick up the ball for a wrestler who had a Jim Johnston theme first, they were usually either decent or pretty bad in comparison. It's actually surprising to see them improve on something that Jim did. Meanwhile, on the rare occasion Jim got to replace a CFO$ theme for a wrestler before he got let go, referencing Corbin and Woods here, it was guaranteed to be a net improvement.
Ima be the only Def Rebel fan here
Correct
I’m like one the biggest def rebel defenders on here
@@MrDrew1555 😡😡😡
Unpopular opinion: Def Rebel isn't always that bad. Not a fan of them, I actually don't like some of th theme songs they made, but they can actually be good at times.
Def rebel are lazy as fuck.
End of Days is the most underrated entrance theme.
I’m just glad that this is actually an objective comparison. Yes I’m still on the Jim Johnston is the G.O.A.T train, but there have been hits, misses and straight bangers from all!
I could go on a rant to defend Def Rebel, but I would get murdered if I did.
Don't get me wrong def rebel can make grest music, Iyo Sky - Rollins - Lashley - Roman - The Fiend, but the problem is They are way too inconsistent for the bangers to truly shine
@@G128_czthe fiends music was done by code orange
@@0stb01ii2 performed by them, composed and produced by def rebel.
@@bigblitz it was composed, mixed and mastered by code orange themselves
@@0stb01ii2 I know but under def rebel, like Aleisters wasn't done by CFO$ by They are still credited, def rebel were secondary artist and the ones to do the final mixing and most likely helped in other areas too
def rebel is so bad at just reusing shit, so all the themes sound the same
Thank you so much for this video. It really showcases the importance oh how themes are can have a big impact on wrestlers whole presentation.
Jim Johnston is really on top there but I really like CFO$ Toooo they did an amazing job with themes like (Naomi, AJ Styles, Paige, Lana) and more.
But Def Rebel is just in needing of „it“ . They need to do more with vocals and less beats and trap type ish themes. I mean all themes are just sounding hip hopy.
But they did an amazing job with themes Like : Seth Rollins, Roman Reigns, The Usos, Liv Morgan (Nah Nah), Naomi, Cheslea Green, Piper Niven, Zelina Vega and more.
Jim Johnston = Street Fighter II ost
Def Rebel = Street Fighter Alpha 3 ost
Those Def Rebel themes are just awful.
Seth, Bobby, Corbin was ok
def rebel suck
Says the same fans said “CFO sucks” dude why can’t you get your facts straight. You guys used to trash CFO what’s next after Def Rebel you guys will trash another Music who randomly makes WWE Music like shut the fuck up and get your facts straight dumbass
Baron Corbin: Johnston
Lashley: Def Rebel
Bo Dallas: CFO$
Claudio: CFO$
Gallows: CFO$, but all are great!
Trinity: CFO$
Rollins: CFO$ (DR a close 2nd)
Jey: CFO$ (DR literally copied it)
Jimmy: Def Rebel
Xavier Woods: Jim Johnston
What I learned opinionizing these myself is that Johnston was far better suited for an older era and heavily relied on formulaic radio sounding vocal accompanied tracks. Def Rebel can make good songs now and then but for the most part (with the exception of Rollins theme and ill say Roman even though hes not on this list) they are all very generic. Lashley's best theme in my opinion is through Def Rebel however. And last but not least what I learned is that CFO$ is severely and I mean severely underrated. I definitely think this list showed how awesome CFO$ actually was at making purely instrumental themes that suited a wrestler's character. For as much as people clamber to bring back Johnston I would say bring in someone entirely new to try it out or go back to CFO$. One of my personal favorite CFO$ tracks was Curtis Axel's theme music. Especially if you knew the melody of Mr. perfects theme. If you stuck around this far to read this thank you for your time!
Def Rebel with the type beat themes
1.Jim Johnston
2.CFO$
3.Def Rebel
4.CFO$
5.Def Rebel
6.CFO$
7.Jim Johnston, CFO$ and Def Rebel
8.Def Rebel & 9.Def Rebel
10.Jim Johnston