100% agree, I would rather pull on a non specific ancient banner rather than this, chance for the top 4 is greater. Preatus, Ingrid, Iovar, Valderon all feel like a different level.
Amazing breakdown, i'm saving my pity for praetus adn ingrid for an esay 120k for semrah, i hit 100k for now with iovar and toro as lords and iovar is a0 even if i have 5 lego soulstone, so gonna pull some just to try for sargak and go close to pity i'm like at 150 so i hope not to get lucky and hit early since i already have ghan. Always a pleasure watching keep the amazing work :D
Really good and honest video man. I have them both and really love them, Sargak was a game changer because I didn't have Silas and then I was able to complete GR3-21
You have always stated that depending on our accounts progress if we should summon our not. This was a hard breakdown that was needed. Really liked this video. You didn't have these lords, and you are endgame and have completed the majority of this game. These lords are for competitive leader boards, or if you have been playing long enough, you are able to take your account to the next level if you haven't pulled them yet. When I see people saying that they can't progress the game without them, I always think if they mean topping SSS charts or being overlord arena. Wish i could double like this video lol
That was your best summoning video to date ! You gave me a lot to think about when it comes to how I play the game. I will be summoning this weekend because I believe in if it is meant to be…. So I could pull any one of the lords at any time. I hope one day I do get Praetus or Ingrid and I will let fate make that decision. Keep up the great work Fasti it means a lot to all of us.
I have Valderon and pulled on the Iovar banner hoping not to get a legendary lord but get Carnelian and got her… so I wanted to get Sargak and just got him. I’m just building my pitty for when Pratus or Ingrid banner does drop.
I went for it since I was 67 summons in, I managed to get my first Torodor and Admiral Claw off of 20 summons which I'm happy with. It boosted my GB1 score by ~5k.
I 100% agree about the disparity in ancient lords. It feels really bad not having these top tier lords. The worst part in my opinion is that you have to wait months for the right banner. I think that a solution would be for Moonton to run multiple ancient banners every week, or if that seems excessive, run a different ancient banner every single week. It might make the events feel less special, but I really don’t think that’s a priority for anybody.
agreed 100%, those 2 are head and shoulders above, with Valderon excellent in many areas but not broken. I cant really summon now until those 2 come around. Sad but true.
Could you make a couple videos on what to do with Ingrid and pope? I got lucky and have them, but besides arena they haven’t changed very much for me, but I’m sure I’m just using them wrong. Thanks for the video!
This is exactly what's happening with my account, I've only ever summoned on Iovar, Valderon, Ingrid and Praetus banner. Surprise surprise got none of them, only got Ymiret (love him) and Admiral Claw. Heck, I'd take a Torodor at this point but my ancient luck sucks.
I'd like to see you take on Epilogue stage 6. I've beaten it, but it's very challenging. I know many people aren't fans of Epilogue, but I actually enjoyed the challenge for a change. Stage 6 made me appreciate Aylin like never before
My take on this ancient banner was also DON'T PULL even though I need one or both characters. I am not lucky with ancient pulls, so I am going to save those summon shards for a Praetus or Ingrid banner. I want to make sure I get one or both of those SSS characters. My 2 cents...
You gave a very fair take based on the status of the game. Power creep is real and you need to be making decisions with all of that in mind. It comes down to people who are spenders and collectors who can afford it and everyone else. I have Iovar and Praetus and I'm saving everything for Ingrid.
About the whole Ingrid+Praetus combo, Does arena always show the lord in the first spot with crown, or is it bugged and sometime shows them out of order? I can't figure out why I see arbiter teams with Ingrid as the lord and Praetus in the second slot.
I don't say this lightly, but ingrid and praetus need nerfs. There is no reason that 2 heroes should be so dominate in all areas, and basically be required for anyone. High end or low end.
I agree. And let me just say I am mixed about them adding new legos. I want them to add new hero’s regularly to keep the game alive but as someone who is missing so many key hero’s that I need to progress in the game… this is bad news. It’s just making it that much more unlikely to get those key hero’s I need as it’s just diluting the pool. So far I am almost 200 ancient summonings in and have yet to get any ancient exclusive hero(lord or non lord)… I got a twinfiend around 80 something pulls in and he is a great hero but not an ancient exclusive. I’ve been playing since January of this year and some but not all of the key hero’s I am missing include but are not limited to: Elowyn, Vierna, Khamet, Hatssut, Zilitu, and Constance. I haven’t managed to snag any Ancient hero yet. I just keep getting the same dupes of 4-5 bad legos every single time, it’s crazy lol.
I would have agreed with you in the past, but the reality is, it simply can't be done. It would literally kill the game because the couple of hundred super spenders who bankroll the game would want a refund or quit. These guys spent thousands of dollars on these heroes BECAUSE of how overpowered they are. We can't undo Praetus, so adding a couple more exclusive heroes at that level is the next best thing. At least it will increase our chances to get at least one of the OPs and our opportunities to pull.
I think the next leggo lord (Nightmare) will will also be broken af. As far as the nerf for Praetus and Ingrid go I think they are not happening. Praetus is getting a "buff" then the update comes if you remember the change to his A1, and they will change Arena so enemies have higher magic resist so they don't nerf her but still try to stop her from being used in arena this much. I understand how it can be annoying to fight Praetus/Ingrid in arena when you don't have them. I have Praetus and it is a big difference everywhere. This was always a problem in many games and I never had a problem with it really. Everyone has different opinions about it.
Finally pulled my first chaotic today.. and it was vladov 😂 was so hyped to get a lord then realized.. hes my only one. But seems OP and fun so excited to give him a shot anyways. Ty for the vid as always providing great content fasti ❤😊 Edit: got 2 more ancient shards and pulled Ghan?!? Idk what my luck is today but omfg! First 2 chaotics are the 2 lords that is insane! Sorry didn't mean for my comment to turn into a "bragging" thing, I'm just SO stoked omg
I don't mind waiting.... I need, I want Ingrid! (yes and Preatus to) If I have to wait until December or longer, that's no problem, the more shards I'll have, the more chances for Ingrid. Easy!
I have both, so, I’ll be saving for when another Pope banner comes around. I’ve also got to the point in my WoR career that I only Need certain heroes so I can just save for those target banners
I hit pity on Prateus banner and got Cyrus. I stopped saving after that, I just pull on any ancient exclusive banners and I've gotten one more Cyrus. Only things left for me to work on are gear dungeon, epilogue, arena, gvg, codex and tide. Cyrus is still my only ancient lord. Im gonna pull and I think hit pity this weekend because single target is my weakest arena team and Ghan and Sargak would really help me there.
That being said, I agree with your take 100%, I'm just jaded on saving for ancient banners after pulling heavy on both Ingrid and Praetus banners and only having Torodor, Twinfied, Venoma and A1 Cyrus I'm hungry for more legendary lords, especially ancient ones and I'll pull on every ancient exclusive banner till I get some holes filled in
I used two soulstones on Valderon so I was considering going for Ghan and basically abandoning Praetus/Ingrid but he's right. I really wish they weren't so powerful and just released balanced. Can't talk about nerfing at this point or freak out every person who has them. But they are so broken getting them would likely mean it's a precursor to quitting due to lack of challenge.
If you didn't know on your odyssey you don't have to finish that plat 3 for the soulstone you can already click on it and accept it fyi. Up over 70 ancients now, but think i'm going to keep waiting for the nightmare lord. I got lucky to get Ingrid and dropped 3 soulstones into her for her S3, but no praetus.
I'm about 30 away from pity I think I'll hold for the rumored nightmare lord. I know it might be a little but hopefully I'll have a decent amount of ancients saved
This is hard. I’m in that almost beaten everything stage and I’m missing the big lords. I have Sargak and ardea and would love ghan but I need preatus/ Ingrid. Really bums me out having to save
I actually like the fact that ancients are difficult to get. Even buying them is not giving you a whole lot, knowing you might need 200+ depending on where you are with pity. I know five Hartzs are painful but it gives something to look forward to get eventually. The only issue is that with more Ingris-like characters coming the gap to the top players for some of us might be increasing to a level the game becomes almost not playable anymore. Some of us probably see this in arena where lvl 80 players with Ingris are almost unbeatable. So it is a matter of time and luck and with four ancients summons behind me with no luck on the big names I am not sure if the game will remain fun with me being increasingly unable to win in arena.
playing for 2 month. Ghan my first lego lord. He came at 70+ red pulls. I just want to pull atleast epic piercer lord and then will save up for god tier lords
I have 100 saved up so far, which is also guaranteed pity for me. I want to pull so bad but I have almost every leggo lord in the game apart from Ingrid/Praetus/Vald. So I legit just cannot bring myself to summon on banners with lords I already have that I don't need awakenings for compared to a higher chance of getting a game changing one like Praetus. At this point though I'd rather summon on an ancient weekend that has NO rate ups.
The only lords I have are harz, eldrr aracha and Ajax… due to that I even skipped summoning on the iovar carnelian banner (maybe a mistake in hindsight). Like you said I’m probably going to have to continue saving indefinitely until a top 3 lord banner. And what would really hurt is if I end up pulling another dud after all these months of saving (which can easily happen even on an ingrid/praetus rate up banner) 😒
Similar situation to you, got Aracha so why need Iovar now? Got 90 saved as F2P. Waiting for a nightmare lord is best as wrath is just so weak in DPS for end game content.
Could you please do an in depth guide where you show where Valderon is used? Have him as a F2P and I barely use him, would rather just use my arrogance
@@Caleb-zu1pk if you are a legit kraken you don’t need to go nuts on this banner but I wouldn’t fully skip it. Pull a bit to see if you can nab Sargak or ghan. Sargak especially is very meta in pvp
I picked up iovar had the lego lord pity in grasp and went for it. Was considering passing on iovar... would have passed on ghan... but discussed in my guild like... do i just wait for the nexr ingrid or pope? Its an honest question, i honestly progressed a lot sinxe i got iovar but its a little bump... playing ingrid or praetus in arena or gvg, not to mention all other content id be way better in... did i make a mistake getting iovar? Ridiculous question that shouldnt be asked
Funny thing today. Used one ancient summon to get the daily reward. My pity was at 110. Never pulled a banner lord. What happens get Ghan. lol. Already have Valderon.
I pulled ghan on a ancient 10 pull ive only been playing for a couple months and hes my first leggo lord so pretty happy. I dont really have many if any in his faction though. Where could he be used? Currently built him hp%hp%def% glacier and immortal. Cheers
I think you need to also consider how far from pity you are. I hit pity on Iovar banner and got Venoma A3. So I now have 40 summons on fresh pity and don't have Ghan. I'm definitely summoning on this. I'm late game with every hero except Ghan, Ingrid nor Seraphina.
So I summoned because ancients are whatever for me, never pull the actual banner or leggos. I pulled Ymerit, Lugaro and Carnellian, all new leggos. So I'll take it 🤷🏼♂️
i have praetus and don't have ingrid. 100% pulling because Ghan is my most wanted unit in the game. love them tanky hitters, and i can already clear everything. don't care about being at the top of arena if ingrid is what that takes
wow 5 legendary soulstones, i got 0 in half a year of playtime :D my account is lucky in terms of summoning but soulstones and other rewards from gb1 / 2 etc... i feel a lil cursed );
How many ancient shards did it take you to get those? Curious because I’ve been playing since January and I’m about to hit pity. I got a twinfiend at 80 pulls in but other than that I have not gotten a single ancient exclusive hero(lord or non lord) from ancient summons EVER.
@@cameronarndt230 just 168 ancients in total, I never got into pity, also got Praetus twice, and also got Pelagios, Lugaru and Admiral.. I guess I'm luckier in ancients than normal summons
What he said. I had Kineza and Vierna, I'm somewhere in 8-9k summons maybe more but not at 10k. I just FINALLY got Salazar and Silas, and I wasn't even pulling for them. I think they both came on divines for me. Just takes time, luck, and patience.
or just do what i do, i was 5 summons into soft pity (i have praetus A0) and also never hit a rate up lord, and ghan would be crazy for my account. 2 summons in i pulled another praetus rofl So just pull praetus on other banners XD A1 praetus baby, i need more arbiters to really take advtage of him, managed to pull a thalen on the last praetus rate up banner, and then just got constance and valkyria, but hes so broken lol
Absolutely NOTHING I disagree with in this video. And a perfect visual on the spreadsheet. I have A3 Valderon and I LOVE HIM. But..I have no Ingrid or Prateus and I feel I'm lagging on some pieces of content. I'm not spending 1 Ancient until a banner comes out for either Prateus or Ingrid (slight edge for Prateus for me). 80 Saved so far...lol
Summoning for ghan 6 months ago would have been a no brainer, but now I’m 20 away from ancient pity and I feel like I have to hold out for Ingrid especially as a FTP end game account 🤦🏼♂️
Yeah, i have Ingrid without Praetus and i feel like Valderon is better for my acc then her, she basicaly just enable Watchers so my Lucius is doing most dmg on GB1 and GB2 Edit: omg if he will have dual faction with chaotic it would be ******* GREAT
I sadly have to agree with you, i got Praetus in July and he has been boosting my account since then… with him i finished NM VOID RIFT WITHOUT problems, reached platinum 3 in arena, boosted my cb dragon and Semrah… then during Iovar banner i got Ingrid and now I’m in Overlord arena, no problem, i destroy people 50/60k pb more than me if they don t have Ingrid and Praetus… so yes, this duo is broken and they are the 2 best heroes if you wanna boost your account, and reach end game… but you also need gear, gear is vital for this heroes to perform good and mine is not good enough… BTW i ve just pulled ghan in 15 ancients xD
I'm mid/late game. Low/mid spend. Rip 10-20 ancients on any banner. A2 TF 70 ancients ago, then Solcadens last weekend. Good rates, but I've never saved more than 50 or 60 ancients. Also, never hit a banner ancients exclusive lord, just like you.
@@fastidious_gg why? Do you get more out of the soulstone in your bag or on a hero? You could have had A5 TF all this time? Obviously only if you plan to use the scroll on him anyway(as you said you would)
Can you do a video on them nurfing the drop rates on gb2. The amount of ancient summons i have gotten from gb2 has gone down every single week. The first week I got 7 and now I get 1 I am sure everyone is experiencing this.
Lost my only chance of getting my 2nd lord the week before last to a dumdass dupe Ajax reset my pity timer for the ancient summons cause he's a false lord not a actual lord don't get me wrong I love ajax I was just hoping for a better lord hero then a 4 star lord for once I've maxed out all of my 4 star lords already that's how bad this game screws me with dupes during ancient summoning thats the life of this f2p anyway
I felt fine about the video. Just kidding this was real and what other people are thinking too. Realistically the game needs to give opportunities to level the playing field. Guaranteed 250 summons is gonna help. Twyla and kigiri are going to help. Just ingrid and praetus man...
Totally disagree with iovar he’s in the same category as Cyrus soulcadens and ghan. At the end of the day infernals and piercers are the 3rd and 4th best factions. Infernals at least has multiple very good high end heroes while piercers basically requires you to have both Silas and he’s to perform equal to or better to an infernal team with the respective leggo lords.
This is your best should you summon video. By far, the best level headed take on this :)
great video, im still in midgame just pulled Ghan today, so happy!
I am so glad I listened to you bro, I pulled 30 shots and I got BOTH OF THEM fr ahah!! Sooooo hyped
4:22 that one last shift down was personal
Bhahaha sorry man
100% agree, I would rather pull on a non specific ancient banner rather than this, chance for the top 4 is greater.
Preatus, Ingrid, Iovar, Valderon all feel like a different level.
Amazing breakdown, i'm saving my pity for praetus adn ingrid for an esay 120k for semrah, i hit 100k for now with iovar and toro as lords and iovar is a0 even if i have 5 lego soulstone, so gonna pull some just to try for sargak and go close to pity i'm like at 150 so i hope not to get lucky and hit early since i already have ghan. Always a pleasure watching keep the amazing work :D
Really good and honest video man. I have them both and really love them, Sargak was a game changer because I didn't have Silas and then I was able to complete GR3-21
Love the insight. One of the best vids to date.
You have always stated that depending on our accounts progress if we should summon our not. This was a hard breakdown that was needed. Really liked this video. You didn't have these lords, and you are endgame and have completed the majority of this game. These lords are for competitive leader boards, or if you have been playing long enough, you are able to take your account to the next level if you haven't pulled them yet. When I see people saying that they can't progress the game without them, I always think if they mean topping SSS charts or being overlord arena. Wish i could double like this video lol
That was your best summoning video to date ! You gave me a lot to think about when it comes to how I play the game. I will be summoning this weekend because I believe in if it is meant to be…. So I could pull any one of the lords at any time. I hope one day I do get Praetus or Ingrid and I will let fate make that decision. Keep up the great work Fasti it means a lot to all of us.
Watched the whole vid! Appreciate you doing it this way. Confirms how I’ve been thinking.
Thank you for all the work you put in Fast your videos have helped me a lot keep up the good work bro 😊
I have Valderon and pulled on the Iovar banner hoping not to get a legendary lord but get Carnelian and got her… so I wanted to get Sargak and just got him. I’m just building my pitty for when Pratus or Ingrid banner does drop.
I went for it since I was 67 summons in, I managed to get my first Torodor and Admiral Claw off of 20 summons which I'm happy with. It boosted my GB1 score by ~5k.
I 100% agree about the disparity in ancient lords. It feels really bad not having these top tier lords. The worst part in my opinion is that you have to wait months for the right banner. I think that a solution would be for Moonton to run multiple ancient banners every week, or if that seems excessive, run a different ancient banner every single week. It might make the events feel less special, but I really don’t think that’s a priority for anybody.
I have two accounts one with Ingrid and one without, the game becomes a cake walk with Ingrid.
agreed 100%, those 2 are head and shoulders above, with Valderon excellent in many areas but not broken. I cant really summon now until those 2 come around. Sad but true.
great video. thanks for all your help!!
Could you make a couple videos on what to do with Ingrid and pope? I got lucky and have them, but besides arena they haven’t changed very much for me, but I’m sure I’m just using them wrong. Thanks for the video!
Are you pushing Apoc2?
guild boss 2 they break him
gr1 Ingrid
gr2 praetus
void rift, guild war, immortal codex they both break the game
As I still don't have Torodor I definatly wait for the next Nightmare Lord and hope to draw him.
This is exactly what's happening with my account, I've only ever summoned on Iovar, Valderon, Ingrid and Praetus banner.
Surprise surprise got none of them, only got Ymiret (love him) and Admiral Claw. Heck, I'd take a Torodor at this point but my ancient luck sucks.
I just reached 200 ancients since last lord yesterday, I was trying to hopefully get Sargak..
I'm not spending my pity on Ghan so I'll be saving now
I'd like to see you take on Epilogue stage 6. I've beaten it, but it's very challenging. I know many people aren't fans of Epilogue, but I actually enjoyed the challenge for a change. Stage 6 made me appreciate Aylin like never before
My take on this ancient banner was also DON'T PULL even though I need one or both characters. I am not lucky with ancient pulls, so I am going to save those summon shards for a Praetus or Ingrid banner. I want to make sure I get one or both of those SSS characters. My 2 cents...
You gave a very fair take based on the status of the game. Power creep is real and you need to be making decisions with all of that in mind. It comes down to people who are spenders and collectors who can afford it and everyone else. I have Iovar and Praetus and I'm saving everything for Ingrid.
About the whole Ingrid+Praetus combo, Does arena always show the lord in the first spot with crown, or is it bugged and sometime shows them out of order? I can't figure out why I see arbiter teams with Ingrid as the lord and Praetus in the second slot.
Does not always show them in order. Quite bugged
I don't say this lightly, but ingrid and praetus need nerfs. There is no reason that 2 heroes should be so dominate in all areas, and basically be required for anyone. High end or low end.
Moonton did a lot of shit, everyone can clearly see it
Preatus was too strong? Let’s make another super strong hero, that’s will solve all😂
Fuck sake
You wouldn't be saying that if you owned them 😂 I've beaten plenty of those teams
I agree. And let me just say I am mixed about them adding new legos. I want them to add new hero’s regularly to keep the game alive but as someone who is missing so many key hero’s that I need to progress in the game… this is bad news. It’s just making it that much more unlikely to get those key hero’s I need as it’s just diluting the pool. So far I am almost 200 ancient summonings in and have yet to get any ancient exclusive hero(lord or non lord)… I got a twinfiend around 80 something pulls in and he is a great hero but not an ancient exclusive. I’ve been playing since January of this year and some but not all of the key hero’s I am missing include but are not limited to: Elowyn, Vierna, Khamet, Hatssut, Zilitu, and Constance. I haven’t managed to snag any Ancient hero yet. I just keep getting the same dupes of 4-5 bad legos every single time, it’s crazy lol.
I would have agreed with you in the past, but the reality is, it simply can't be done. It would literally kill the game because the couple of hundred super spenders who bankroll the game would want a refund or quit. These guys spent thousands of dollars on these heroes BECAUSE of how overpowered they are. We can't undo Praetus, so adding a couple more exclusive heroes at that level is the next best thing. At least it will increase our chances to get at least one of the OPs and our opportunities to pull.
I think the next leggo lord (Nightmare) will will also be broken af.
As far as the nerf for Praetus and Ingrid go I think they are not happening. Praetus is getting a "buff" then the update comes if you remember the change to his A1, and they will change Arena so enemies have higher magic resist so they don't nerf her but still try to stop her from being used in arena this much.
I understand how it can be annoying to fight Praetus/Ingrid in arena when you don't have them. I have Praetus and it is a big difference everywhere.
This was always a problem in many games and I never had a problem with it really. Everyone has different opinions about it.
Finally pulled my first chaotic today.. and it was vladov 😂 was so hyped to get a lord then realized.. hes my only one. But seems OP and fun so excited to give him a shot anyways. Ty for the vid as always providing great content fasti ❤😊
Edit: got 2 more ancient shards and pulled Ghan?!? Idk what my luck is today but omfg! First 2 chaotics are the 2 lords that is insane!
Sorry didn't mean for my comment to turn into a "bragging" thing, I'm just SO stoked omg
Good stuff keep em coming
I hate skipping this one, but as always, you’re right.
Someone said. You should summon during praetus/valderon/ingrid banners. And i think carnelian is the 4th banner what worth the summons
I don't mind waiting.... I need, I want Ingrid! (yes and Preatus to)
If I have to wait until December or longer, that's no problem, the more shards I'll have, the more chances for Ingrid. Easy!
I'm a f2p and pulled at the most 35-40. Got both Ghan and Sar.
Beautiful luck
I have both, so, I’ll be saving for when another Pope banner comes around. I’ve also got to the point in my WoR career that I only Need certain heroes so I can just save for those target banners
I hit pity on Prateus banner and got Cyrus. I stopped saving after that, I just pull on any ancient exclusive banners and I've gotten one more Cyrus. Only things left for me to work on are gear dungeon, epilogue, arena, gvg, codex and tide. Cyrus is still my only ancient lord. Im gonna pull and I think hit pity this weekend because single target is my weakest arena team and Ghan and Sargak would really help me there.
That being said, I agree with your take 100%, I'm just jaded on saving for ancient banners after pulling heavy on both Ingrid and Praetus banners and only having Torodor, Twinfied, Venoma and A1 Cyrus I'm hungry for more legendary lords, especially ancient ones and I'll pull on every ancient exclusive banner till I get some holes filled in
Ur friend Harz does not want to let me alone bro lol ... happy got Sargak (dont have silas or hex) but A2 Harz just showed up too
I used two soulstones on Valderon so I was considering going for Ghan and basically abandoning Praetus/Ingrid but he's right. I really wish they weren't so powerful and just released balanced. Can't talk about nerfing at this point or freak out every person who has them. But they are so broken getting them would likely mean it's a precursor to quitting due to lack of challenge.
If you didn't know on your odyssey you don't have to finish that plat 3 for the soulstone you can already click on it and accept it fyi. Up over 70 ancients now, but think i'm going to keep waiting for the nightmare lord. I got lucky to get Ingrid and dropped 3 soulstones into her for her S3, but no praetus.
Wtf? For real man?
I have Ingrid a1 and no preatus. So I will save thank you for breaking it down.
I'm about 30 away from pity I think I'll hold for the rumored nightmare lord. I know it might be a little but hopefully I'll have a decent amount of ancients saved
I spent the few ancients I have because I don't think I'll be in the game long enough to see another Ingrid or Praetus banner again.
Okay good luck
This is hard. I’m in that almost beaten everything stage and I’m missing the big lords. I have Sargak and ardea and would love ghan but I need preatus/ Ingrid. Really bums me out having to save
I actually like the fact that ancients are difficult to get. Even buying them is not giving you a whole lot, knowing you might need 200+ depending on where you are with pity. I know five Hartzs are painful but it gives something to look forward to get eventually.
The only issue is that with more Ingris-like characters coming the gap to the top players for some of us might be increasing to a level the game becomes almost not playable anymore. Some of us probably see this in arena where lvl 80 players with Ingris are almost unbeatable.
So it is a matter of time and luck and with four ancients summons behind me with no luck on the big names I am not sure if the game will remain fun with me being increasingly unable to win in arena.
Popped a 10 pull on thr ghan banner and got a preatus....my account finally has some good luck (a5 king hartz is what I was packing until now)
That is huge! Congrats
playing for 2 month. Ghan my first lego lord. He came at 70+ red pulls. I just want to pull atleast epic piercer lord and then will save up for god tier lords
I have 100 saved up so far, which is also guaranteed pity for me. I want to pull so bad but I have almost every leggo lord in the game apart from Ingrid/Praetus/Vald. So I legit just cannot bring myself to summon on banners with lords I already have that I don't need awakenings for compared to a higher chance of getting a game changing one like Praetus. At this point though I'd rather summon on an ancient weekend that has NO rate ups.
great video. Thx
The only lords I have are harz, eldrr aracha and Ajax… due to that I even skipped summoning on the iovar carnelian banner (maybe a mistake in hindsight). Like you said I’m probably going to have to continue saving indefinitely until a top 3 lord banner. And what would really hurt is if I end up pulling another dud after all these months of saving (which can easily happen even on an ingrid/praetus rate up banner) 😒
Similar situation to you, got Aracha so why need Iovar now? Got 90 saved as F2P. Waiting for a nightmare lord is best as wrath is just so weak in DPS for end game content.
I summoned before watching this video.
17 ancients .. got Ghan.
Now i have Ghan and Valderon A1
Could you please do an in depth guide where you show where Valderon is used? Have him as a F2P and I barely use him, would rather just use my arrogance
I see him a lot in arena and gvg.
As a kraken who hasn’t invested yet. I’m going all in when the meta is meta enough. U tell me
@@Caleb-zu1pk if you are a legit kraken you don’t need to go nuts on this banner but I wouldn’t fully skip it. Pull a bit to see if you can nab Sargak or ghan. Sargak especially is very meta in pvp
i ignore ancient banners, never got rated up hero and pulled pope on last iovar banner, so screw it, i just blast it open
WELL I DID SUMMON JUST FOR PITY TO GET HIGHER COZ I WAS AROUND 120 AND GOT ON MY 3RD PULL A LEGENDARY AND GOT VALDERON
What abt the rates brah. They are almost impossible to get
I picked up iovar had the lego lord pity in grasp and went for it. Was considering passing on iovar... would have passed on ghan... but discussed in my guild like... do i just wait for the nexr ingrid or pope? Its an honest question, i honestly progressed a lot sinxe i got iovar but its a little bump... playing ingrid or praetus in arena or gvg, not to mention all other content id be way better in... did i make a mistake getting iovar? Ridiculous question that shouldnt be asked
i have 7 ancients i pulled the first one just to build more pity and i pulled valderon so happy 😭
Funny thing today. Used one ancient summon to get the daily reward. My pity was at 110. Never pulled a banner lord. What happens get Ghan. lol. Already have Valderon.
Having ghan and blast is a good thing. Especially since you weren’t even close to pity. Congrats
I pulled ghan on a ancient 10 pull ive only been playing for a couple months and hes my first leggo lord so pretty happy. I dont really have many if any in his faction though. Where could he be used? Currently built him hp%hp%def% glacier and immortal. Cheers
He's a tank that deals damage based on defense so hp,def,def. Guardian and immortal warrior is best sets for him.
I should’ve saved. I got azhor and cerb. Use all blue on helga and nyx banner.
I think you need to also consider how far from pity you are. I hit pity on Iovar banner and got Venoma A3. So I now have 40 summons on fresh pity and don't have Ghan. I'm definitely summoning on this. I'm late game with every hero except Ghan, Ingrid nor Seraphina.
@@bfm6335 yes strong point
@@fastidious_gg and I got Ghan and another Ajax. Two Lord pulls on 30 pulls... Cant complain.
So I summoned because ancients are whatever for me, never pull the actual banner or leggos. I pulled Ymerit, Lugaro and Carnellian, all new leggos. So I'll take it 🤷🏼♂️
I have A2 Praetus
That’s awesome!
Also forgot to say... that was on 15 pulls
I got iovar last pulling session maybe i should be saving up red shards for ingrid banner
Or maybe the new nightmare lord going to be real good and i can pull for that
I’m buying ancients every chance and saving them all for an A5 Lord Gary 💪🏻
A5 lord Gary is the truth
i have praetus and don't have ingrid. 100% pulling because Ghan is my most wanted unit in the game. love them tanky hitters, and i can already clear everything. don't care about being at the top of arena if ingrid is what that takes
@@XerexB completely fair. It’s all up to you and your goals for your account :)
I have Praetus, no Ingrid, I'm 188 into ancient pity. I have 3 lego lords total. Not pulling isn't for me, i dont have the patience.😭
wow 5 legendary soulstones, i got 0 in half a year of playtime :D
my account is lucky in terms of summoning but soulstones and other rewards from gb1 / 2 etc... i feel a lil cursed );
Got Demi on pope banner with my lord pitty. Oh and last lord pitty was Demi. She is my king harz
got her on Ingrid banner, was kinda not bothered at the time, but the more I see how busted Ingrid is it makes me sad!
Hey fasti just so you know you can already claim that odyssey soul stone it unlocked at 72 and u are on 73
@@Kapkamikaze I did not. lol
I summon until 200 and then wait for good banners😊
I summond 4 nyx, 3 sargak, 1 Aracha, 1 Apsan 😅 in 60 Blue 4 Gold and 30 ancient 😅
Why arent people main lording ghan on valderon comps?
I have Praetus, Iovar, Solcadens.. still needs Ingrid and Cyrus
How many ancient shards did it take you to get those? Curious because I’ve been playing since January and I’m about to hit pity. I got a twinfiend at 80 pulls in but other than that I have not gotten a single ancient exclusive hero(lord or non lord) from ancient summons EVER.
@@cameronarndt230 just 168 ancients in total, I never got into pity, also got Praetus twice, and also got Pelagios, Lugaru and Admiral.. I guess I'm luckier in ancients than normal summons
Damn. Just damn. I got Arrogance no Lust. I got Silas no Vierna. I just pulled Kineza but no Salzaar. Why can't I get any love.
Patience patience :)
What he said. I had Kineza and Vierna, I'm somewhere in 8-9k summons maybe more but not at 10k. I just FINALLY got Salazar and Silas, and I wasn't even pulling for them. I think they both came on divines for me. Just takes time, luck, and patience.
Tempting to try. Will only have around 30 by Monday off fresh pity. Dont have a chaos leggo lord or Sargak. Will probably end up holding.
I'm ghan all in! I need me some Ghan!
I'm gonna pull. I already pulled and got helga.
or just do what i do, i was 5 summons into soft pity (i have praetus A0) and also never hit a rate up lord, and ghan would be crazy for my account. 2 summons in i pulled another praetus rofl
So just pull praetus on other banners XD
A1 praetus baby, i need more arbiters to really take advtage of him, managed to pull a thalen on the last praetus rate up banner, and then just got constance and valkyria, but hes so broken lol
Absolutely NOTHING I disagree with in this video. And a perfect visual on the spreadsheet. I have A3 Valderon and I LOVE HIM. But..I have no Ingrid or Prateus and I feel I'm lagging on some pieces of content. I'm not spending 1 Ancient until a banner comes out for either Prateus or Ingrid (slight edge for Prateus for me). 80 Saved so far...lol
Save for 4-6 months pull for Iovar or Ingrid and get some trash like King Harz...I mean that's just my experience
Been my experience thrice :) I feel ya man
You can already claim that 6th soulstone lol you already unlocked it was just confused about that :D
i have like 15 ancients every 2 weaks and iam 193 in not 1 legendary not even a normal legendary sems if u dont spend u get nothing
Got both preatus and ingrid within my first 57 shard on my ftp 😅
Did you ever finish all the factions?
no. you will see when i do
@@fastidious_gg ok thank you
i pulld a valderon instead today xD
Summoning for ghan 6 months ago would have been a no brainer, but now I’m 20 away from ancient pity and I feel like I have to hold out for Ingrid especially as a FTP end game account 🤦🏼♂️
im in the same camp brother.. im close to pity
@@jqiqthe fingers get itchy tho lol not sure how long I can wait out
Yeah, i have Ingrid without Praetus and i feel like Valderon is better for my acc then her, she basicaly just enable Watchers so my Lucius is doing most dmg on GB1 and GB2
Edit: omg if he will have dual faction with chaotic it would be ******* GREAT
Thanks for this vid. Helped me make this decision to skip it.
It was fine
I have Ingrid but I need amazing gears for her and other amazing heroes too , I think it's even more important
I sadly have to agree with you, i got Praetus in July and he has been boosting my account since then… with him i finished NM VOID RIFT WITHOUT problems, reached platinum 3 in arena, boosted my cb dragon and Semrah… then during Iovar banner i got Ingrid and now I’m in Overlord arena, no problem, i destroy people 50/60k pb more than me if they don t have Ingrid and Praetus… so yes, this duo is broken and they are the 2 best heroes if you wanna boost your account, and reach end game… but you also need gear, gear is vital for this heroes to perform good and mine is not good enough… BTW i ve just pulled ghan in 15 ancients xD
@@DiavolettoNero77 congrats on ghan!
What is an exclusive? 750+ 2 twinfiend, 2 laya, 3 araacha, 3 venoma, 2 hartz
I'm mid/late game. Low/mid spend. Rip 10-20 ancients on any banner. A2 TF 70 ancients ago, then Solcadens last weekend. Good rates, but I've never saved more than 50 or 60 ancients. Also, never hit a banner ancients exclusive lord, just like you.
I have Ghan. Easy skip for me. Sargak would be nice, but I have the other top piercers and still no piercer lego lord.
2 helga's i need that skin :P
Why dont you A5 your Twinfiend then? Easy call.
Lmao no
@@fastidious_gg why? Do you get more out of the soulstone in your bag or on a hero? You could have had A5 TF all this time? Obviously only if you plan to use the scroll on him anyway(as you said you would)
Can you do a video on them nurfing the drop rates on gb2. The amount of ancient summons i have gotten from gb2 has gone down every single week. The first week I got 7 and now I get 1 I am sure everyone is experiencing this.
@@derrickclinton2757 I got no more than 2 per week for weeks and got 5 each of the past 3 weeks. Luck comes and goes.
@@derrickclinton2757 so everyone is not experiencing this
@fastidious_gg Ok good to hear that then. Just got the sense from other people I talked to that were experiencing the same thing.
Lost my only chance of getting my 2nd lord the week before last to a dumdass dupe Ajax reset my pity timer for the ancient summons cause he's a false lord not a actual lord don't get me wrong I love ajax I was just hoping for a better lord hero then a 4 star lord for once I've maxed out all of my 4 star lords already that's how bad this game screws me with dupes during ancient summoning thats the life of this f2p anyway
I felt fine about the video.
Just kidding this was real and what other people are thinking too. Realistically the game needs to give opportunities to level the playing field. Guaranteed 250 summons is gonna help. Twyla and kigiri are going to help. Just ingrid and praetus man...
First🎉
I will use my ancients on the next op lord. Not even on Ingrid, since I got the feeling that there is a nerf coming soon for her. 🤗
Totally disagree with iovar he’s in the same category as Cyrus soulcadens and ghan. At the end of the day infernals and piercers are the 3rd and 4th best factions. Infernals at least has multiple very good high end heroes while piercers basically requires you to have both Silas and he’s to perform equal to or better to an infernal team with the respective leggo lords.
Eventually everyone will have Silas. Iovar can also function solo. And is a big step up from the others u listed in PVP and gvg affiliation