As a Clemson grad (2001), and former DCIT student employee, I really enjoyed watching this. They gave us help desk workers a facility tour, but a lot had changed by the late 90s. Wish I could have been around for the line printer playing Tiger Rag.
I'm quite a bit older than below and really appreciate the engineering. Electrical power and stabilization requirements were huge deals in these places. It's not like today where pulse power modules and line to line converters can do the trick with one car battery. These were three phase big boxes at 415cps. Then came digital disk storage at 200mb. Mfm needed good clean power. These modem devices were plugged into loaded, 600 ohm four wire balanced lines if you had the coin. Tellabs had quite an operation with the dst shelves. You had to plan these things for many months and years after facility arrangements were made. Now, use that phone... What a bit of progress (never mentioned the bent pipes and terrestrial satellites yet..) from 1980 into now.. I really appreciate this footage.
I think we replaced a 360 Model 50 with a 370 Model 155 in about 70 or 71. I started work there in 74, and we had just gotten a 370 Model 158. I loved coding in 370 assembler.
What is even cooler is you can download the MVS 3.8j Tur(n)key System and emulate this exact same system on a Raspberry pie, but at about 500x the speed of the original. All of that on a machine about the size of a credit card that cost $30. As he said on the video, a 3033 and drives was about $8 million in 1980s dollars.
I remember submitting FORTRAN card decks and data decks in the late 60's, early 70's. During the middle of a semester you could get a two hour turnaround near the end when everyone has projects due, it would take about 8 hours to get your printouts. If you were in Civil Engineering, during one semester you took a surveying class and surveyed an specific are next to the Civil Engineering building and kept your notebook for the next semester when you had to write a program to calculate various things, like the highest point, lowest point, how many trees, area. You had to learn programming on the fly.
Now I know what a disc pack is :) I always thought it was some hard-drive/cartridge hybrid! I wish I was around back then, modern computers are so boring.
Don Fraser Thanks Don. Not at all. It would be to use as background footage to make it look like a reporter is in some sort of computer control centre. Would you like a special thanks in the credits?
@@davidthegreen I don't need any credit. The narrator is a good friend. His name is Page Hite. He got me the copy of the video. He might enjoy the credit. :-)
@@donatcu Sure thing. It's for a show called "Good Afternoon Adelaide". Second season should be available online sometime in the middle of 2020. Thanks again!
This was the time that working on computers was a great job now when I call support all I get is some stupid bugger from India or China that can only read a script! Or some kid fresh out of school hat would not know anything about real computers! All they know is just silly "Gaming Rigs" a despicable use for a computer! I have also been in the IT for as long as I can remember but those days were the best in my opinion as well.
LMFAO!!!!!!!! 10:50. JUST FORK OVER 7.5 MILLION DOLLARS!!! LMFAO!!!!!!!!! ONTOP OF THAT, GET A MOTOR GENERATOR AS WELL AS A MASSIVE AC TO COOL IT ALL! LMFAO!!!!!! I DIED LAUGHING!!!!!! COMPARE THIS TO WHAT WE HAVE TODAY!!!! DON'T GET ME WRONG, THIS IS AWESOME STUFF THOUGH! BUT DAMN!!! OF COURSE I WAS BORN IN 1980 MYSELF. I'VE THOUGHT ABOUT INVESTING IN LTO TAPE DRIVES THOUGH, FOR LONG-TERM ARCHIVE STORAGE. I STILL HAVE BURNED CD-R'S WITH DATA ON THEM FROM 2003, THAT ARE STILL SURPRISINGLY ACCESSIBLE TODAY. OF COURSE I'VE MIGRATED THAT DATA TO FLASH DRIVES ETC.
I spent many years in these data centre's burning my eyes on green 3270 monitors. The best part of my long IT career! Retired!
As a Clemson grad (2001), and former DCIT student employee, I really enjoyed watching this. They gave us help desk workers a facility tour, but a lot had changed by the late 90s. Wish I could have been around for the line printer playing Tiger Rag.
I use to work for Storage Technology Corporation and repaired and maintained those STC tape drives.
I'm quite a bit older than below and really appreciate the engineering. Electrical power and stabilization requirements were huge deals in these places. It's not like today where pulse power modules and line to line converters can do the trick with one car battery. These were three phase big boxes at 415cps. Then came digital disk storage at 200mb. Mfm needed good clean power. These modem devices were plugged into loaded, 600 ohm four wire balanced lines if you had the coin. Tellabs had quite an operation with the dst shelves. You had to plan these things for many months and years after facility arrangements were made. Now, use that phone... What a bit of progress (never mentioned the bent pipes and terrestrial satellites yet..) from 1980 into now.. I really appreciate this footage.
i have a new working Macintosh iici from 1989 what can i do with it?
amazing stuff! This video is a gem. I was born in '88 and I thought I needed to learn about all this. Just learned what 'mo-dem' stands for.
Wow Don does that bring back memories. I believe there was a 360 when I started there in 73. Correct me if I’m wrong.
I think we replaced a 360 Model 50 with a 370 Model 155 in about 70 or 71. I started work there in 74, and we had just gotten a 370 Model 158. I loved coding in 370 assembler.
The year I was born....man, that was the time...serious big iron;-)
Oh, the memories this bring back...
How interesting; people had to go through hell to make old-school tech like that work, whereas today we just power up our tablets and iPads.
What is even cooler is you can download the MVS 3.8j Tur(n)key System and emulate this exact same system on a Raspberry pie, but at about 500x the speed of the original. All of that on a machine about the size of a credit card that cost $30. As he said on the video, a 3033 and drives was about $8 million in 1980s dollars.
Thank you! Very interesting!
I often forget how the 80s butt right up against the 70s.
I remember submitting FORTRAN card decks and data decks in the late 60's, early 70's. During the middle of a semester you could get a two hour turnaround near the end when everyone has projects due, it would take about 8 hours to get your printouts. If you were in Civil Engineering, during one semester you took a surveying class and surveyed an specific are next to the Civil Engineering building and kept your notebook for the next semester when you had to write a program to calculate various things, like the highest point, lowest point, how many trees, area. You had to learn programming on the fly.
7mil $ and own power plant to play music. Nicely done..
Awesome video! I love it!
Soo, it had 8MB of RAM and up to 2.7GB of storage (170MB/tape x 16,000 tapes). Pretty impressive for the time
It also used Virtual Storage and the o/s can have multiple 16mb regions. Dos/VSE had 16 regions of 16mb each.
Yea but look at the size and cost of this thing.
Little did they know they would be national champs 6 years later!
The narrator is a lot of fun, hah. Thanks for this gem of footage.
Unfortunately, the announcer died recently from cancer.
@@topixfromthetropix1674 sorry to hear RIP
Friggin AWESOME!!!
Fantastic!!!
Sad that the announcer, Page Lee Hite died recently. My brother Rick worked there during that period. (Sept 2020)
He was a dear friend. www.tributearchive.com/obituaries/18208196/Page-Lee-Hite-Jr
One of the greatest challenges in life is to not know so much about a subject that you can no longer have original ideas.
Now I know what a disc pack is :) I always thought it was some hard-drive/cartridge hybrid!
I wish I was around back then, modern computers are so boring.
Those were the days! I'm so very glad I was there back then (and even earlier).
私は日本人ですが、とてもなつかしいです、私もIBM37０を教育を受け、日本全国に搬入された、機械を保守していました、とてもなっかしいです、とていもいい動画です。
Hi Don, would I be able to use 30 seconds of this video for a comedy segment on a public access TV show? Happy to discuss the specifics via email?
That will be fine as long as you aren't ridiculing anyone in the video or Clemson.
Don Fraser Thanks Don. Not at all. It would be to use as background footage to make it look like a reporter is in some sort of computer control centre. Would you like a special thanks in the credits?
@@davidthegreen I don't need any credit. The narrator is a good friend. His name is Page Hite. He got me the copy of the video. He might enjoy the credit. :-)
@@donatcu Sure thing. It's for a show called "Good Afternoon Adelaide". Second season should be available online sometime in the middle of 2020. Thanks again!
This computer had 1/100,000th the power of the smartphone you keep in your pocket.
11:32 -- "Uninterruptibable" :P
9:31
*Printer Singing*
9:42 nice music
I worked on this stuff...
I'm here now. We just watched this video in ECE2720 Computer Organization
So one tape is roughly 117 MB ?
Thereabouts at the time.
@6250BPI yes and tape throughput was faster than disk
@6250BPI, yes
@@rty1955 As long as you were reading sequential data.
@@stonent That's kinda redundant dont you think?
In my 50 years experience ive never seen anyone read a tape randomly :)
mmm haylon!
8 MB!
This was the time that working on computers was a great job now when I call support all I get is some stupid bugger from India or China that can only read a script! Or some kid fresh out of school hat would not know anything about real computers! All they know is just silly "Gaming Rigs" a despicable use for a computer! I have also been in the IT for as long as I can remember but those days were the best in my opinion as well.
LMFAO!!!!!!!! 10:50. JUST FORK OVER 7.5 MILLION DOLLARS!!! LMFAO!!!!!!!!! ONTOP OF THAT, GET A MOTOR GENERATOR AS WELL AS A MASSIVE AC TO COOL IT ALL! LMFAO!!!!!! I DIED LAUGHING!!!!!! COMPARE THIS TO WHAT WE HAVE TODAY!!!! DON'T GET ME WRONG, THIS IS AWESOME STUFF THOUGH! BUT DAMN!!! OF COURSE I WAS BORN IN 1980 MYSELF. I'VE THOUGHT ABOUT INVESTING IN LTO TAPE DRIVES THOUGH, FOR LONG-TERM ARCHIVE STORAGE. I STILL HAVE BURNED CD-R'S WITH DATA ON THEM FROM 2003, THAT ARE STILL SURPRISINGLY ACCESSIBLE TODAY. OF COURSE I'VE MIGRATED THAT DATA TO FLASH DRIVES ETC.
Got enough caps there?
@@tickertape1 He was typing in the computer room and you know all the fans are really loud in there.
This so reminds me of my mainframe operator years, LOL - thank you for putting it in TH-cam.