I haven’t watched the show in a couple years but toward the end when he tried to commit suicide didn’t he refer to her and Carmela said that fucking woman?
I think it breaks the cycle of people’s narcissism when it comes to how they view their life. Thinking there has to be so much weight around your life story and there has to be a structure. It’s actually nice to hear that you’re not special so stop putting pressure on yourself over something rarely anybody can control, your own mortality. What makes you think you’re so special?
That is good, she is not wrong. I do not know why people are confused by the character I guess it was written for different times in the 90s. She is not wrong about anything she said.
@@szzk7937 I definitely agree with never expecting happiness and people always letting you down. Life has no inherent meaning but it is better to engage in it to distract yourself than be a miserable hermit like Livia. It's like taking painkillers when you're in pain, the wound doesn't go away but you can bear it.
“Don’t expect happiness” Is actually great advice. There’s a kernel of wisdom in her bitterness. She doesn’t know it but she’s saying “don’t be selfish and entitled like I am”.
@@Y_hassthanks doomer. How is that supposed to help anyone in any way? Ever think about offering some positivity instead of your half baked philosophy?
Things can get better and I’m sure you’ve seen that in some way since you posted this comment. But it starts with you. You need to start making positive changes in your life and stop waiting around for something to inspire you. That thing is never going to come. No one is ever going to do it for you. So you need to start taking care of yourself and thinking proactively when it comes to making your life better. As you make small steps it will be easier than you think and pretty soon you won’t recognize yourself at all. But it’s all about your mentality. If you choose to lead a purposeless life, then it truly is a big nothing. But in the end that choice is yours. So make it now and start living a life of purpose.
@@Yungknown But it's true, I wish I could preach something positive but the world doesn't work like that. Did you watch the video? Livia is speaking the dark truth.
@@Y_hass no she’s not. Read my reply to the original comment. It’s a show dude and she is one of the most unlikable characters of all time. Not exactly the fountain of wisdom you’re making her out to be. You choose wether your life has purpose or not.
@@CaptainTrips560 She's a step above the rest tbh. I would compare Livia to other antagonists like Richie, Ralphie, Johnny Sack, Blundetto, Phil Phil and Johnny come close but not enough
You'll note that right after Livia gives her nihilistic little homily, she digs into a big bowl of ice cream. I don't think she so much cares about about the nothingness of it all as she enjoys making others feel worthless, even her nine-year-old grandson.
I've always been able to relate to what Livia said here, but even more now that my supposedly best friend and brother forever has abandoned me. People will let you down. We live in a jungle, and most people are not to be trusted because they are just out for themselves.
AJ clearly went to the wrong person to ask about the meaning of life. I believe it was here that AJ started his descent into a downward spiral of uncertainty and depression, all thanks to his cranky, buzzkill of a grandmother.
O mais interessante é que ele estava em uma crise existencial muito comum e muito simples que acontece com a maioria das pessoas da idade dele, e Tony e Carmela são totalmente neuróticos em relação a isso e pressionam ele demais para que mude seu comportamento comentando sobre seus problemas com todos os amigos e conhecidos da família em busca de conselhos, até que Pussy diz para AJ buscar conselhos de sua avó, o resultado foi devastador.
Either way it’s not an appropriate thing to say to your grandson lol. And really she’s not. She is correct about her own life but that’s a choice she made. You can choose for your life to mean something and happiness is something you can cultivate by making the right decisions. But if you choose to adopt her mentality, than your life will play out exactly as you expect it to.
@@hazzmati wtf are you talking about? You don’t have to be either of those things to make a choice to have purpose. This comment section is really not passing the vibe check. So many people are so defeated. It’s incredibly ironic the way you complain about the circumstances of your life while simultaneously allowing them to exist and choosing not to make things better for yourself. You don’t need to have a perfect upbringing to have standards for yourself. You realize almost no one has that right? Every person is flawed and every person has hardships. There are many people who have gone through much harder things than you and come out on top. So stop being a pussy. I’m tired of hearing this victim shit from everybody. It makes you weak.
@@Yungknown you have no idea idea how hard other people's lives are nor you have any idea about their mental wellbeing. You have that typical boomer mindset of disregarding the hardships of others and just to ''suck it up and make a change'' as if that's realistic plus it makes you really unlikeable.
@@hazzmati the most unlikable characteristic you can have is to accept defeat and discourage other people. Both of which you are taking part in. I’m 24 years old and I know EXACTLY what people suffer through. I am the victim of childhood abuse. Sexual, physical, and emotional. Mostly from my own parents. I have suffered from mental illness for my entire life as a result of this. But do you see me giving up? No. I refuse to de defined by the negativity of others. Grow up and get over yourself.
It’s one of those things where Livia almost seems to make sense here, but it’s born of deep cynicism from a life dedicated to selfish misery. The tragedy of cynicism is the dismissal of love, possibly the only thing that really matters. Livia had given up entirely on love by this point if she ever had it to begin with
She’s not wrong, honestly. At least, the first few sentences haha if she was a little bit more in touch with positivity she could have found the secret out.
She is a brilliant actor. Underrated in this show. But i think many think of her when they go to therapy, and talk about their own narcissistic mother 😂
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It's true. Happiness is never guaranteed. Temporary pleasures is not happiness, it's a distraction. Happiness is a very specific state of being that most people will never reach.
In the eyes of both the other characters in the Sopranos & many fans of the show, old Liv here was the most hated character. In my eyes…she was the wisest. An inveterate pessimist and “natural born” misanthrope. What could be better?
I see her as a malignant narcissist who traumatised Tony with her spiteful, calculated episodes of borderline personality disorder. He became a sociopathic self-loathing thug thanks to her.
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That little smirk at :32. The only joy Livia ever got was through bringing other people down.
I've known people like this. Sadly.
Just like my mother
It has a name. « the narcissists smirk». Brilliant actor!
It's crazy it wasn't until i watched this show that i realized how much my mother's cynicism affected me as a kid.
me too! omg ai hate her now after realizing the putrid personality she gave me! im still trying to cut the negativity cancer out of me
Livia died and her soul transferred to AJ and that’s who AJ was acting like the entire show.
this is canon
@@torkicks2670 I’m allegorical but I’m silent hill😞
That's why he 'felt' her after she died.
I haven’t watched the show in a couple years but toward the end when he tried to commit suicide didn’t he refer to her and Carmela said that fucking woman?
She was so great.
She was a saint 😢
*Most uplifting Livia quote*
You shared another kind.
I miss my grandmothers and our talks.
Same. I'm lucky to have had a sweet, loving grandma who made amazing food and knitted/crocheted me clothing and blankets. Miss her every day
So often these words come into my head and it's unexpectedly comforting.
These words make ones expectations less.
Exactly. You realize your best friend is ultimately yourself.
I think it breaks the cycle of people’s narcissism when it comes to how they view their life. Thinking there has to be so much weight around your life story and there has to be a structure. It’s actually nice to hear that you’re not special so stop putting pressure on yourself over something rarely anybody can control, your own mortality. What makes you think you’re so special?
At least jungle’s are exciting
Me explaining the meaning behind Neon Genesis Evangelion to my grandchildren.
Somebody's not the brightest bulb.
So you didnt get Eva? How? Its quite literally the definition of "not that deep"
AYOOOOOOOO BRUH FUNNY
Well, at least that's what I think when I hear "Komm, süßer Tod."
@@zekeiwa5837 It's amazing how people can't grasp the most mouthbreather and the most simple media made possible.
You know it's bad when you've got Livia's mindset at 19
That is good, she is not wrong. I do not know why people are confused by the character I guess it was written for different times in the 90s. She is not wrong about anything she said.
@@szzk7937 I definitely agree with never expecting happiness and people always letting you down. Life has no inherent meaning but it is better to engage in it to distract yourself than be a miserable hermit like Livia. It's like taking painkillers when you're in pain, the wound doesn't go away but you can bear it.
@@szzk7937 Go to therapy, there is no insight in this character, just a confirmation of your own biases. You're not wise, you're just depressed.
The ultimate in low expectations for your life.
There is no evidence anything humans do on this little spec in the galaxy has any importance whatsoever. It’s one giant ant farm.
@@francesa9776That fact just makes life more comforting. lol
“Don’t expect happiness” Is actually great advice. There’s a kernel of wisdom in her bitterness. She doesn’t know it but she’s saying “don’t be selfish and entitled like I am”.
Don't expect the world or other people to make you happy. That is solely on you.
no she isnt
@@LumpyBumpyAcidFish yes she is ;)
@@lupelicious822 happiness is an inside job
@@bokehintheussr5033 no she isnt
Im fucking stuck in this fucking life
Many need to be living insufferable lives for the lucky few to live a good life...
@@Y_hassthanks doomer. How is that supposed to help anyone in any way? Ever think about offering some positivity instead of your half baked philosophy?
Things can get better and I’m sure you’ve seen that in some way since you posted this comment. But it starts with you. You need to start making positive changes in your life and stop waiting around for something to inspire you. That thing is never going to come. No one is ever going to do it for you. So you need to start taking care of yourself and thinking proactively when it comes to making your life better. As you make small steps it will be easier than you think and pretty soon you won’t recognize yourself at all. But it’s all about your mentality. If you choose to lead a purposeless life, then it truly is a big nothing. But in the end that choice is yours. So make it now and start living a life of purpose.
@@Yungknown But it's true, I wish I could preach something positive but the world doesn't work like that. Did you watch the video? Livia is speaking the dark truth.
@@Y_hass no she’s not. Read my reply to the original comment. It’s a show dude and she is one of the most unlikable characters of all time. Not exactly the fountain of wisdom you’re making her out to be. You choose wether your life has purpose or not.
Maybe the best supporting actor ever?
Who AJ?
You could say that about a dozen different actors on this show
@@CaptainTrips560 She's a step above the rest tbh. I would compare Livia to other antagonists like Richie, Ralphie, Johnny Sack, Blundetto, Phil
Phil and Johnny come close but not enough
"If you never have any expectations, then you will never be disappointed."
She's right.
But don't tell that to a 9 yr old kid,for Chrissakes!!
Lol, he asked for it
AJ was 14 at the time.
Them two had great comedic chemistry weirdly
Livia’s sentence impacts AJ in season 6.
Gangstaaaaaaa
Gotta say livia talking some deep shit here
Blackpilled doomer Livia is based af. Maybe a little too pessimistic, but she’s still dropping truth bombs everywhere in this scene.
You'll note that right after Livia gives her nihilistic little homily, she digs into a big bowl of ice cream. I don't think she so much cares about about the nothingness of it all as she enjoys making others feel worthless, even her nine-year-old grandson.
Great motivational speech right there. 😂
Dark.
My mother was her understudy….
Livia ruined AJ for a long ass time in the show haha, it was like a Livia Jr
I've always been able to relate to what Livia said here, but even more now that my supposedly best friend and brother forever has abandoned me. People will let you down. We live in a jungle, and most people are not to be trusted because they are just out for themselves.
AJ clearly went to the wrong person to ask about the meaning of life. I believe it was here that AJ started his descent into a downward spiral of uncertainty and depression, all thanks to his cranky, buzzkill of a grandmother.
O mais interessante é que ele estava em uma crise existencial muito comum e muito simples que acontece com a maioria das pessoas da idade dele, e Tony e Carmela são totalmente neuróticos em relação a isso e pressionam ele demais para que mude seu comportamento comentando sobre seus problemas com todos os amigos e conhecidos da família em busca de conselhos, até que Pussy diz para AJ buscar conselhos de sua avó, o resultado foi devastador.
You have to chalk alot of it up to Tony too and his parental role models
She reminds me of my mother. She was a miserable so and so 🙄
It's like listening to my own late mother
Ohhh poor you!!
She's right.
Either way it’s not an appropriate thing to say to your grandson lol. And really she’s not. She is correct about her own life but that’s a choice she made. You can choose for your life to mean something and happiness is something you can cultivate by making the right decisions. But if you choose to adopt her mentality, than your life will play out exactly as you expect it to.
@@Yungknown yeah if you're priviliged with the perfect upbringing then sure you're right. Doesn't apply for the rest of us
@@hazzmati wtf are you talking about? You don’t have to be either of those things to make a choice to have purpose. This comment section is really not passing the vibe check. So many people are so defeated. It’s incredibly ironic the way you complain about the circumstances of your life while simultaneously allowing them to exist and choosing not to make things better for yourself. You don’t need to have a perfect upbringing to have standards for yourself. You realize almost no one has that right? Every person is flawed and every person has hardships. There are many people who have gone through much harder things than you and come out on top. So stop being a pussy. I’m tired of hearing this victim shit from everybody. It makes you weak.
@@Yungknown you have no idea idea how hard other people's lives are nor you have any idea about their mental wellbeing. You have that typical boomer mindset of disregarding the hardships of others and just to ''suck it up and make a change'' as if that's realistic plus it makes you really unlikeable.
@@hazzmati the most unlikable characteristic you can have is to accept defeat and discourage other people. Both of which you are taking part in. I’m 24 years old and I know EXACTLY what people suffer through. I am the victim of childhood abuse. Sexual, physical, and emotional. Mostly from my own parents. I have suffered from mental illness for my entire life as a result of this. But do you see me giving up? No. I refuse to de defined by the negativity of others. Grow up and get over yourself.
Sweet Livia
Same thing Dickie Moltisanti said right before he died in TMSON.
And his fathers twin in prison. Talking about buddhism “It’s the wanting”. Greatest line in the movie.
It's similar to something Svetlana says to Tony, too
TMSON was garbage. Even David Chase admits it.
@@kaj7135 the first time i watched it i was dissapointed but the second time i appreciated it more
It’s one of those things where Livia almost seems to make sense here, but it’s born of deep cynicism from a life dedicated to selfish misery. The tragedy of cynicism is the dismissal of love, possibly the only thing that really matters. Livia had given up entirely on love by this point if she ever had it to begin with
She’s not wrong, honestly. At least, the first few sentences haha if she was a little bit more in touch with positivity she could have found the secret out.
this is so blatantly, unapologetically nihilistic it's almost funny
What makes you think you're so special?!!!
She is right
She is a brilliant actor. Underrated in this show. But i think many think of her when they go to therapy, and talk about their own narcissistic mother 😂
We love ya Livia
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She's literally me
Nice
Nothing truer was ever said!
Or: "Tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow..."
It's honestly so troubling how much Livia is like my father just so cruel and narcissistic and heartless and selfish and abusive
0:41 “what makes you think you’re so special” Reference to Six Feet Under??? 🧐
What an awful thing to say to a child. And it’s not true
it is for me
It is true. You can’t have happiness cos either life, nature or other people gonna stamp on it and delete it.
It's true. Happiness is never guaranteed.
Temporary pleasures is not happiness, it's a distraction. Happiness is a very specific state of being that most people will never reach.
@@smtandearthboundsuck8400 didn't know we had a linguist over here
@@rc8s Charles Schwab over here
In the eyes of both the other characters in the Sopranos & many fans of the show, old Liv here was the most hated character. In my eyes…she was the wisest. An inveterate pessimist and “natural born” misanthrope. What could be better?
What fans of the show hated Livia? She was hilarious!
I've always loved Livia! She's the best!
I see her as a malignant narcissist who traumatised Tony with her spiteful, calculated episodes of borderline personality disorder. He became a sociopathic self-loathing thug thanks to her.