Not sure how I didn't find this video sooner. All I kept finding was trike setups and when I did find a tail dragger all they showed was it all set up with what their readings were with zero instructions. So thanks for this!!!!!!!!.
The most important step is to level the plane at a level flight characteristics before measuring and weighting Im curious to know where did you place your level on the plane to know if you are leveled Thanks great video
Yes I did put it in the video… You have to level the airplane… I have always leveled the tail.. 0° to positive 1° or 2° positive on the wing depending on model.. always level the tail!!
@@BackRoadsOutlawsRC good morning the reason im asking is lets say i have a profiled airfoil on the tail how do i know where to put the tiny level? Anywhere i put it is different theres no flat surface And why would you go positive 1-2 instead of zero Thanks
@@bullitanaconda On this airplane and most highway airplanes the tail is at 0° while the wing is at positive one or 2°… That’s just basic aircraft math… A flying tail surface like you’re asking about, Has an airfoil shape… So I am familiar what you’re talking about what I would do is then use an incidence meter on the tail and make sure that it balances out at 0°… That’s with the elevator dead level to the tail then strap on the incidence meter go to zero that would put your air foil at 0° to your work table… And then it would be interesting to find out if you have any positive incidents in your wing
This helped considerably! The last thing you did was to describe a plan that was nose heavy! Your comment was to just remove weight frm the nose. I understand that, but what if there is nothing you can remove. Would you then just add weight to the rear of the plan to compensate? Sometimes making the plane a little heavier seems the only solution?
That’s absolutely right… And it takes less weight in the tail to make an airplane balance so you’re not adding a whole lot as long as you can get the weight as far back in the fuse as possible
Great video Rod , One thing to understand is a couple degrees out of level is not going to effect the balance point enough to worry about on most models. Try it and compare the readings. Also I know everyone uses the term CG which is technically not correct, it is the longitudinal balance point we are checking, CG refers to the balance point on all 3 axes…..although the Ixcoy does also show the lateral balance with the weight on each main…..just me being nit picky…lol
Nothing wrong imo about being picky. Taking extra time on the bench to get it absolutely spot on makes for better flight rights off the bat with less tweaking and fiddling at the field.
Great Video Rod. I noticed you entered the number 135 for distance from mains to weight placement. What measurement would you enter if you don't have any additional weight placement and just the stock build?
Sorry I didn’t see your question earlier… I just entered that number because it has to have a number… I very rarely use that number in order to figure out my balance… You just want to make sure the airplane is balanced and find out where is the best place to place your counterweight… Does that make sense?
@@BackRoadsOutlawsRC no worries at all. Yeah that’s what I figured so I just used your same number. Great machine. I’ve used it on numerous planes now and it’s awesome.
Yeah my cub is +2° on the tail… It does happen,,you just want to make sure the fuselage is dead level!! that’s what I’m guessing anyway… I’ve balanced seven airplanes with this balancer and all have been perfect… But I just level the fuselage, And sometimes the easiest way to do that is selling a dead level to the tail… But I know what you’re talking about sometimes that isn’t always the case
Hey Rod how are you doing you may not remember me but my name is Caleb and my dad and I used to go to the dry lake bed on Saturday mornings and fly rc airplanes.
That data entry screen makes no sense at all. I can do the same measurement with a single 10 lb scale and a spreadsheet, so it's not worth $300 to me. And yes, I do have to move the scale from wheel to wheel. Not a problem since I have more time than money. Btw, I pronounce Xicoy as Zy'-coy and it's tare, not tar.
Well I’m sorry to be such a redneck… Does it make you feel better talking about how people waste their money… anyway you do what you Gotta for some of us to sit down and write everything out on that paperwork it’s worth it when you have 10 or 15 airplanes and your building more just to throw them on a scale and get the job done… If you only have one RC plane or if you only have one scale airplane in the hanger then yes doing the paperwork is great but for a model who has more than 10 airplanes in the hanger it’s always nice to have this tool… But anyway y’all have a great day
Well I have a half scale cub that weighs 220 pounds… Little tough to put that on your fingertips!! I have a quarter scale Beaver that weighs 68 pounds… Again little tough to put on your fingertips!! Hahahaha if you use one of these balancers you will never use anything else… It makes the airplanes fly absolutely perfect
Not sure how I didn't find this video sooner. All I kept finding was trike setups and when I did find a tail dragger all they showed was it all set up with what their readings were with zero instructions. So thanks for this!!!!!!!!.
You are very welcome…
The most important step is to level the plane at a level flight characteristics before measuring and weighting
Im curious to know where did you place your level on the plane to know if you are leveled
Thanks great video
Yes I did put it in the video… You have to level the airplane… I have always leveled the tail.. 0° to positive 1° or 2° positive on the wing depending on model.. always level the tail!!
@@BackRoadsOutlawsRC good morning the reason im asking is lets say i have a profiled airfoil on the tail how do i know where to put the tiny level? Anywhere i put it is different theres no flat surface
And why would you go positive 1-2 instead of zero
Thanks
@@bullitanaconda On this airplane and most highway airplanes the tail is at 0° while the wing is at positive one or 2°… That’s just basic aircraft math… A flying tail surface like you’re asking about, Has an airfoil shape… So I am familiar what you’re talking about what I would do is then use an incidence meter on the tail and make sure that it balances out at 0°… That’s with the elevator dead level to the tail then strap on the incidence meter go to zero that would put your air foil at 0° to your work table… And then it would be interesting to find out if you have any positive incidents in your wing
@@BackRoadsOutlawsRC i was using the engine shaft on planes that have no deflection
Thanks alot rod
Thank Rod, always insightful
Well I try to be!! Haha
This helped considerably! The last thing you did was to describe a plan that was nose heavy! Your comment was to just remove weight frm the nose. I understand that, but what if there is nothing you can remove. Would you then just add weight to the rear of the plan to compensate? Sometimes making the plane a little heavier seems the only solution?
That’s absolutely right… And it takes less weight in the tail to make an airplane balance so you’re not adding a whole lot as long as you can get the weight as far back in the fuse as possible
Great video Rod , One thing to understand is a couple degrees out of level is not going to effect the balance point enough to worry about on most models.
Try it and compare the readings. Also I know everyone uses the term CG which is technically not correct, it is the longitudinal balance point we are checking, CG refers to the balance point on all 3 axes…..although the Ixcoy does also show the lateral balance with the weight on each main…..just me being nit picky…lol
Nothing wrong imo about being picky. Taking extra time on the bench to get it absolutely spot on makes for better flight rights off the bat with less tweaking and fiddling at the field.
Very informative. Thank you!
Great video!!!! Thank You!!!
Great Video Rod. I noticed you entered the number 135 for distance from mains to weight placement. What measurement would you enter if you don't have any additional weight placement and just the stock build?
Sorry I didn’t see your question earlier… I just entered that number because it has to have a number… I very rarely use that number in order to figure out my balance… You just want to make sure the airplane is balanced and find out where is the best place to place your counterweight… Does that make sense?
@@BackRoadsOutlawsRC no worries at all. Yeah that’s what I figured so I just used your same number. Great machine. I’ve used it on numerous planes now and it’s awesome.
Brilliant thanks mate!
Hi rod
Is there times when the stab is designed to not be at zero but having a few degrees of incidence relative to the datum line
Yeah my cub is +2° on the tail… It does happen,,you just want to make sure the fuselage is dead level!! that’s what I’m guessing anyway… I’ve balanced seven airplanes with this balancer and all have been perfect… But I just level the fuselage, And sometimes the easiest way to do that is selling a dead level to the tail… But I know what you’re talking about sometimes that isn’t always the case
Hey been looking 4 u
Hey Rod how are you doing you may not remember me but my name is Caleb and my dad and I used to go to the dry lake bed on Saturday mornings and fly rc airplanes.
Was that you on Facebook? I remember Caleb, who’s your dad?
Yes that was me on facebook
@@zombieslayer7634 send again
Btw my dad's name was Todd Hyde
@@zombieslayer7634 absolutely I remember Todd and I remember you… Send me A friend request again on Facebook
I think you forgot to deduct , distance between LE and main minus cg from the book
That data entry screen makes no sense at all. I can do the same measurement with a single 10 lb scale and a spreadsheet, so it's not worth $300 to me. And yes, I do have to move the scale from wheel to wheel. Not a problem since I have more time than money. Btw, I pronounce Xicoy as Zy'-coy and it's tare, not tar.
Well I’m sorry to be such a redneck… Does it make you feel better talking about how people waste their money… anyway you do what you Gotta for some of us to sit down and write everything out on that paperwork it’s worth it when you have 10 or 15 airplanes and your building more just to throw them on a scale and get the job done… If you only have one RC plane or if you only have one scale airplane in the hanger then yes doing the paperwork is great but for a model who has more than 10 airplanes in the hanger it’s always nice to have this tool… But anyway y’all have a great day
Why don't you balance it on your fingers like the rest of us?
Well I have a half scale cub that weighs 220 pounds… Little tough to put that on your fingertips!! I have a quarter scale Beaver that weighs 68 pounds… Again little tough to put on your fingertips!! Hahahaha if you use one of these balancers you will never use anything else… It makes the airplanes fly absolutely perfect