Just looking forward to the delivery of my EX90 in early 2025 here in Denmark. I can live with the missing features and just be part of the EX90 feature adventure. Just had a test run of a Polestar 3 to g’et a feeling of the driver position… it where just nice 😊
It’s a beautiful design that should be adopted for a next generation XC90. Not everyone wants to go all electric for various and valid reasons and Volvo will lose many customers if they don’t accommodate those customers.
I’ll wait for the EX60; maybe they’ll work out all the software issues with the 90 before they start accepting orders for the 60. I have a 2-year old XC60 so hopefully the EX60 will be available by the time my car’s 4 year warranty expires.
I drive a Volvo and love it, but any other big companies would get absolutely crucified if their flagship model was delayed for 18 months and stuff like freakin CarPlay wasn't even ready on launch. I find this absolutely unacceptable and people responsible for the development of this car should get fired immediately. Most of the features you mentioned are not even new! Other companies and even older volvo models have most of them
That manual sunshade is ridiculous. Why didn't they put in an electrically retractable shade for the pano roof?! Smells of bureaucratic cost cutting... and for a car that's 30% more than the XC90?? Volvo needs to avoid going cheap with materials and features for their EVs vs their ICE cars.
Yeah. Surprised myself over that. Well the price is very different from market to marker. It's cheaper here in Norway vs the XC90, but that's because of our tax system that benefits electric cars
@@volvo_kristian hope to get more details this week, however the reason provided on my last call was "production demands". Demand exceeding production capacity it seems.
I hope they gonna fix it till 2025, not because I want one - I love and keep my C40 - but because it would mean to me that Volvo made its own necessary experience and learned from that. So that hopefully in 2027 a perfect ES60 appears.
The software situation reminds me of Tesla and how they’ve sold cars with “capabilities” like Summon and auto parking with the promise that they’ll provide those feature later. No date. Still don’t have full functionality on these.
I ordered my EX90 the moment it was released. I waited untill last month when i recieved a letter from Volvo that a lot of functions will not work for the foreseeable time. That’s when I cancelled. Now i get invitations and goodies from Volvo (last few months) but the first 1,5 year there was complete radiosilence. I order a car for 118625€ and for the first 1,5 year did not hear anything. It was, so to say, not particularly a premium experience ordering such a expensive car. I cancelled because i do not think everything will be fixed in a couple of months.
Completely understand. Was quiet for a long time. But now we're so close. I'm staying optimistic that Volvo will sort this out within the time frame. And then this car will probably be amazing and class leading. Let's see
Shouldn't they first finish EX30 software? The car itself is AMAZING.. the software is not safe. Put the lever in Reverse and it drives forward because the driver released the brakes half a second too early. Volvo MUST add an optional driver instrument panel from EX90 or Zeekr X1. IT IS NOT SAFE TO DRIVE without speedometer! The days of Ford model T has long gone!
Well. Two completely different cars. Different platforms. One Geely based SEA, and then Volvo and Polestar's SPA2. Different software platform as well. And they can either way work with both.
I bought this car for the 3.8 seconds to 100 kph. Volvo could have had the best EV on the market if they did not insist on the strange interior design. Simply put: Drive shifter that always work; normal turn signal; Driver's instrument panel. That's all I ask. .. and 2 centimeters in roof height!
@barkan86 Well there I can agree. But doesn't understand the turn signal comment. Either way. The EX30 should have a driver display and preferably more buttons. Like operating windows and mirrors should be in the door cards.
It's a story of letting the product onto the market too soon. The current XC90 is nearly 10 years old and still holding its own (debate over the 4 cyl is ongoing) design wise. They could have waited instead of rushing it to market. Love our XC40 Recharge, and looking forward to the EX90 in the future. Avoid first or even second yr models so issues like this can be ironed out. Worth it for sure, just going to have to be patient.
In the US, with the pricing of the EX90 this model goes up against the Rivian R1S. And any of the trims priced above USD $80k do not qualify for tax credit. This model only will appeal to hard core Volvo customers, who have to be turned off by this Tesla-like tactic of delivering a car missing key features.
I'm not so familiar with the R1S.. Are that also a 7 seater? Maybe Volvo does some good campaigns to make it more competitive if the Rivian are it's main competitor over there. Here in Europe I think the Kia EV9 would be the closest competitor. Same space and practicality but lacks on interior qualities and most likely driving experience
I still cannot understand why volvo (other geely car) need to develop two different system one for china one for the rest of the world? Like why? Both of them use native google android system. I think this is the root of all volvo software problem.
I've heard about many auto manufacturers that does this. It's completely normal. Europeans and China market wants different things/experiences and have probably different ways of interacting with the systems.
@@volvo_kristian totally, i think it will bei even less. 200kw would mean arround the ccs Maximum Ampere-Limit. Anyway I agree, the EV9 is impressive with 210kw until 65%. Looking forward to ex90 tests
@@FaaBaar no it’s an absolute fact. There was tons of new technology available and tested ready for the 5 cylinder to not only make them nearly bullet proof. But cleaner and more efficient than the 2.0 I4 pos. Just watch the show, I also happen to know what’s next… I may or may not work for VCNA
Compensation? It's just delayed software. How long time will it really affect customers.? Don't think it will be so long. That's why I think it's highly unlikely that Volvo will offer any compensation.
@@volvo_kristian Why should you pay full price when they first delay the car 6 months and then decide to deliever a car that isn’t finished. They probably have bigger problems than they will admit. Even the EX30 have problems.
Lidar is stupid for the intended purpose on a car. If the brain / software of the car is smart enough, vision only is not only cheaper but better as well.
@emilenossin5098 Do you have any research that supports that theory? I guess not.. There's many benefits with Lidar and radars. That's why Volvo and several others are using it.
Hi Kristian, I’m in the market for an EV SUV, not for lease but a personal buy. So I’m careful regarding these large expenses. Although I drive an X5 at the moment and certainly do consider Volvo and several other brands. The weak point of Volvo’s for me are the lack of effficiency and bringing cars to the market too early like for instance the EX30. BMW’s neue klasse will be entering the market at the moment the XC 90 is finally hitting the market, also Audi and Porsche are bringing models with 800V infrastructure for the same price. The difference being the 7 seats in the Volvo, but I only need 4 or 5. I love Volvo interiors and colour options. And Volvo has a strong fan base here in the Netherlands. But I will stay away from the EX90 for the first 2 years and see how the market develops. In my opinion they are too late to the party
Yeah see your point there. Especially regarding the 800V debate. I was concerned even when Volvo released this. Not sure if you know this, but the EX90 will get the same 800V system as the Zeekr 001 got in China. Estimate or rumors that it will come during 2026. Give or take. However. Not everyone cares about this. If Volvo have managed to make these slightly efficient and also deliver a decent charging curve than this could definitely be a winner. Regardless 400V architecture.
@@volvo_kristian Of course. Deliver the car with lidar hardware but not using lidar function first. You need data to train your car to have self-driving, which means you need as many car as possible on road first.
@@volvo_kristian The disastrous thing for EX90 is this car will be 3 years technoligically behind the car published next year. You will see a lot of cars with great self-driving without using lidar, you will see more cars using battery with a density of 300 wh/kg. As the V2H and other abilities is already spreaded out in china this year. I am a fan of volvo, but volvo ev is out in the chinese market.
@ytl6674 Behind what cars? Chinese cars? Or German cars? There's really no premium cars in this segment yet. Yes I wish the EX90 was built on a 800 V architecture but when/if Volvo manage to get their software tech ready in time, then they are ahead of it's competitors.. I'm not thinking about Chinese cars like Nio or Xpeng
Nice to buy a car that get better and better after 6 mounth
Yeah, that's the spirit 🙌 Always look on the bright side of life,.. da da,.
Long live to XC90 ! Still the king ! Timeless and classic design !
He'll yeah 🙌
Kristian do you know xc90 is getting a facelift this year?
Just looking forward to the delivery of my EX90 in early 2025 here in Denmark. I can live with the missing features and just be part of the EX90 feature adventure. Just had a test run of a Polestar 3 to g’et a feeling of the driver position… it where just nice 😊
Great to hear. Yeah won't be too long either 👍 Important to have a half full kinda vibe to it. (Instead of half empty) 😂
It’s a beautiful design that should be adopted for a next generation XC90. Not everyone wants to go all electric for various and valid reasons and Volvo will lose many customers if they don’t accommodate those customers.
I’ll wait for the EX60; maybe they’ll work out all the software issues with the 90 before they start accepting orders for the 60. I have a 2-year old XC60 so hopefully the EX60 will be available by the time my car’s 4 year warranty expires.
Yeah, I'm also waiting. Primarily because this is too large 😂 I got faith that Volvo can resolve these elements even before their estimates.
4 years warranty?! You're lucky one. Mine has only 2 years and it expired already.
I drive a Volvo and love it, but any other big companies would get absolutely crucified if their flagship model was delayed for 18 months and stuff like freakin CarPlay wasn't even ready on launch. I find this absolutely unacceptable and people responsible for the development of this car should get fired immediately. Most of the features you mentioned are not even new! Other companies and even older volvo models have most of them
That manual sunshade is ridiculous. Why didn't they put in an electrically retractable shade for the pano roof?! Smells of bureaucratic cost cutting... and for a car that's 30% more than the XC90?? Volvo needs to avoid going cheap with materials and features for their EVs vs their ICE cars.
Yeah. Surprised myself over that. Well the price is very different from market to marker. It's cheaper here in Norway vs the XC90, but that's because of our tax system that benefits electric cars
Are you shure that it´s not just a temporary shade for the showroom (I just can´t imagine that it´s a production unit…)?
We want opening / sliding sunroofs as well not the fixed glass roof nonsense!
It's no hands in my S60.
Our XC60 T6 recharge is also delayed. Ordered Jan 2024, due for delivery end of 2024, and still not In production!
That sounds strange. Have you heard what's causing the delay?
@@volvo_kristian hope to get more details this week, however the reason provided on my last call was "production demands". Demand exceeding production capacity it seems.
I hope they gonna fix it till 2025, not because I want one - I love and keep my C40 - but because it would mean to me that Volvo made its own necessary experience and learned from that. So that hopefully in 2027 a perfect ES60 appears.
Yeah I'm staying optimistic. They have to sort this out.
They got me with the manual sunroof shade. This is cheap and isn’t reflective of a luxury product. I’ll keep my XC90
Yeah, what is that stuff ???
Yeah, slightly disappointed over that as well
Will they do a recall for changeing the hardware? And i hope it will be for free..
Yeah, most likely. Haven't heard anything, but guess that's the only way to get it done as fast and smooth as possible. I expect for free of course
The software situation reminds me of Tesla and how they’ve sold cars with “capabilities” like Summon and auto parking with the promise that they’ll provide those feature later. No date. Still don’t have full functionality on these.
I ordered my EX90 the moment it was released. I waited untill last month when i recieved a letter from Volvo that a lot of functions will not work for the foreseeable time. That’s when I cancelled. Now i get invitations and goodies from Volvo (last few months) but the first 1,5 year there was complete radiosilence. I order a car for 118625€ and for the first 1,5 year did not hear anything. It was, so to say, not particularly a premium experience ordering such a expensive car. I cancelled because i do not think everything will be fixed in a couple of months.
Completely understand. Was quiet for a long time. But now we're so close. I'm staying optimistic that Volvo will sort this out within the time frame. And then this car will probably be amazing and class leading. Let's see
Shouldn't they first finish EX30 software? The car itself is AMAZING.. the software is not safe. Put the lever in Reverse and it drives forward because the driver released the brakes half a second too early. Volvo MUST add an optional driver instrument panel from EX90 or Zeekr X1. IT IS NOT SAFE TO DRIVE without speedometer! The days of Ford model T has long gone!
Well. Two completely different cars. Different platforms. One Geely based SEA, and then Volvo and Polestar's SPA2. Different software platform as well. And they can either way work with both.
The basic plarform is perfect! The Volvo part is problematic.
@barkan86 well, then maybe this isn't for you.
I bought this car for the 3.8 seconds to 100 kph. Volvo could have had the best EV on the market if they did not insist on the strange interior design. Simply put: Drive shifter that always work; normal turn signal; Driver's instrument panel. That's all I ask. .. and 2 centimeters in roof height!
@barkan86 Well there I can agree. But doesn't understand the turn signal comment. Either way. The EX30 should have a driver display and preferably more buttons. Like operating windows and mirrors should be in the door cards.
To think I almost ordered this car back in 2022. So happy I didn’t!
@@fmsantoscar Why? When Volvo sorts these issues then this is almost unbeatable in what it offers.
It's a story of letting the product onto the market too soon. The current XC90 is nearly 10 years old and still holding its own (debate over the 4 cyl is ongoing) design wise. They could have waited instead of rushing it to market. Love our XC40 Recharge, and looking forward to the EX90 in the future. Avoid first or even second yr models so issues like this can be ironed out. Worth it for sure, just going to have to be patient.
Yeah, they definitely released it to early, but now they have to be pretty close since they will start customer deliveries.
I don't care about these 10 bc they can come later via update. Do the launch now , or I might buy Kia ev9 if you keep delaying.
Yeah, production have started so first handovers aren't far away.
In the US, with the pricing of the EX90 this model goes up against the Rivian R1S. And any of the trims priced above USD $80k do not qualify for tax credit. This model only will appeal to hard core Volvo customers, who have to be turned off by this Tesla-like tactic of delivering a car missing key features.
I'm not so familiar with the R1S.. Are that also a 7 seater? Maybe Volvo does some good campaigns to make it more competitive if the Rivian are it's main competitor over there. Here in Europe I think the Kia EV9 would be the closest competitor. Same space and practicality but lacks on interior qualities and most likely driving experience
Hopefully Volvo won't ship it with CCS... it needs NACS to be competitive at launch.... Stay safe, Tim
Yeah. See your point. Not sure what's happening on that part. Maybe they change over to NACS from MY26
No problem. Fix it
by reproducing the 850R wagon. 😊
Yeah 😂
I would prefer good hybrid car than this full electric I don’t want full electric
Luckily I just need a car from 1-2026 😂
I still cannot understand why volvo (other geely car) need to develop two different system one for china one for the rest of the world? Like why? Both of them use native google android system. I think this is the root of all volvo software problem.
I've heard about many auto manufacturers that does this. It's completely normal. Europeans and China market wants different things/experiences and have probably different ways of interacting with the systems.
As you mentioned, i cancelled and took the EV9. Also besser charging tech ... EX90 will be slow on ionity
Yeah. Maybe just 200kW but it all depends on the curve. It's better with 180kW flat than a 250kW peak a couple of minutes before tapering down
@@volvo_kristian totally, i think it will bei even less. 200kw would mean arround the ccs Maximum Ampere-Limit.
Anyway I agree, the EV9 is impressive with 210kw until 65%. Looking forward to ex90 tests
I have had one order for 1.5 years
I am going to cancel mine
The biggest disaster Volvo ever made was leaving the 5 cylinder turbo for the 4 cylinder and trying to go electric.
Hehe 😂 Valid point.. or skipping the diesel engines.. But financially this could be at least top two.
Why so backward looking? Why do you want to contain inhale unhealthy exhausts?
That's absolutely rubbish statement
@@FaaBaar no it’s an absolute fact. There was tons of new technology available and tested ready for the 5 cylinder to not only make them nearly bullet proof. But cleaner and more efficient than the 2.0 I4 pos. Just watch the show, I also happen to know what’s next… I may or may not work for VCNA
My 1998 5 cyl has 230,000 miles, never been apart, runs perfect.
Will probably cancel mine if Volvo don’t offer any compensation.
Compensation? It's just delayed software. How long time will it really affect customers.? Don't think it will be so long. That's why I think it's highly unlikely that Volvo will offer any compensation.
@@volvo_kristian Why should you pay full price when they first delay the car 6 months and then decide to deliever a car that isn’t finished. They probably have bigger problems than they will admit. Even the EX30 have problems.
Ridiculous. And Jim Rowan seems to have no clue. He even claimed that the EX30 software is okay now. So the EX90 will be the same desaster.
There's a huge difference between these two so can't really compare, but see your point. However I'm staying optimistic. They will get this done
He learned software at Blackberry. EV at Dyson. And was hired from a heated coffee mug firm.
Lidar is stupid for the intended purpose on a car. If the brain / software of the car is smart enough, vision only is not only cheaper but better as well.
@emilenossin5098 Do you have any research that supports that theory? I guess not.. There's many benefits with Lidar and radars. That's why Volvo and several others are using it.
Hi Kristian, I’m in the market for an EV SUV, not for lease but a personal buy. So I’m careful regarding these large expenses. Although I drive an X5 at the moment and certainly do consider Volvo and several other brands. The weak point of Volvo’s for me are the lack of effficiency and bringing cars to the market too early like for instance the EX30. BMW’s neue klasse will be entering the market at the moment the XC 90 is finally hitting the market, also Audi and Porsche are bringing models with 800V infrastructure for the same price. The difference being the 7 seats in the Volvo, but I only need 4 or 5. I love Volvo interiors and colour options. And Volvo has a strong fan base here in the Netherlands. But I will stay away from the EX90 for the first 2 years and see how the market develops. In my opinion they are too late to the party
Yeah see your point there. Especially regarding the 800V debate. I was concerned even when Volvo released this. Not sure if you know this, but the EX90 will get the same 800V system as the Zeekr 001 got in China. Estimate or rumors that it will come during 2026. Give or take. However. Not everyone cares about this. If Volvo have managed to make these slightly efficient and also deliver a decent charging curve than this could definitely be a winner. Regardless 400V architecture.
@MrPetermc199 What about it?
Another EX30 customer like me. Car is great, but the software is a nightmare. I think we might be asking for our money back.
I have EX30 too and im wondering what is this nightmare 🤔. I dont have problems, car is best small car i have ever driven and all Works fine.
@@JassoLama So how does Waze work for you on v1.4? Not at all? Oh, well
Or cruise control while trailing? Not at all? Oh, well...
Should I keep going?
@@thorsteng.8954 I've never used Waze and I don't need it. The car has a good google maps navigator 👍.
In 18 month its already outdated. Also you dont really answer your own questions ...
@@martincheffert7970 What? Answered what caused the delays. And also answered if it's worth the wait. So what didn't I answer
Not worth it too expensive
@@Леликиболик-щ1л Cheaper than XC90 here in Norway. So it's all relative
This is why Volvo is stupid, why not deliver the car first, and improve the car with OTA. The Lidar is part of the car, not the whole.
@ytl6674 what? They will deliver the car, and do most of the updates via OTA. .
@@volvo_kristian Of course. Deliver the car with lidar hardware but not using lidar function first. You need data to train your car to have self-driving, which means you need as many car as possible on road first.
@@volvo_kristian The disastrous thing for EX90 is this car will be 3 years technoligically behind the car published next year. You will see a lot of cars with great self-driving without using lidar, you will see more cars using battery with a density of 300 wh/kg. As the V2H and other abilities is already spreaded out in china this year. I am a fan of volvo, but volvo ev is out in the chinese market.
@ytl6674 Think you need to see the video again. The Lidar will be active from start, but the driver can't utilise the functions immediately.
@ytl6674 Behind what cars? Chinese cars? Or German cars? There's really no premium cars in this segment yet. Yes I wish the EX90 was built on a 800 V architecture but when/if Volvo manage to get their software tech ready in time, then they are ahead of it's competitors.. I'm not thinking about Chinese cars like Nio or Xpeng