@@estherbrown4084 mine is a statement and your run on sentence and opinions are separate from mine. Let’s keep it that way. Your beef is not my beef. Stop dragging people in your drama triangles.
This is video is Devine intervention for me, I’m 66 years old and been looking for a life such as this, I am overwhelmed to know a life for me is real. Jesus is working in my life and I want to honor Him all the rest of my days. And yes, Lisa Ling is exceptional. Jesus hear my prayer. Amen
I was introduced to the Focolare movement in college through my parents and the friends I made within the Focolare are some of my best friends and closest friends I will ever have. And the lessons we learned within the movement and because of our interactions with other cultures and faiths have made us better members of our communities 💯
The apostles of the Bible were political activists. They were highly pro active. They went on separate missions to spread the message of Jesus. The did not live in a commune
I lived communally for almost 15 years. All things held in common...our own businesses that supported the commune...members receiving a small monthly allowance each month and trusting God for our basic needs not met by the allowance. It was Evangelical, holiness centered. ... and cruelly abusive...physically, emotionally, psychologically and spiritually. In some of their centers there was sexual harassment and abuse. Like a horribly disfunctional family, I miss that "family" but am so glad to be free of these judgement, condemnation and abuse. I could never go back. Most of it's leaders were malignant narcissists who used their position for power and control, using God's Holy Writings to justify their abuse and cruelty.
This is Beautiful 🎉 Thank you for featuring them🎉 I feel a sense of Peace from them 🎉Yes Buddhism of Nichiren Daishonin with the SGI teaches that Prospering is Giving Sustenance. Which runs counter to the normalized culture of GREED or Accumulation. 🎉Lots to ponder here. Christian women and thys the culture around them seem to focus solely on men providing, which those who lack insight into the error of their words has brought forth a normalized culture of GREED origin in their women. Thus, I predict many who claim to be of the same book will despise this approach. But it will assist in their must delayed evolution. 🎉Other questions. How is this different than nuns and priests? 🎉 May this take off in All faiths and may they observe how they prosper as well. To Prosper, I believe you need to be surrounded by some people with Appreciation and Empathy Intelligence or you'll starve🙏🏽
They are noble women, as they said, trying to liberate themselves from the culture of consumption. The Catholic church, as well as other religions, have the same spiritual teachings, such as "love thy neighbor as thyself." The teachings of the Baha'i Faith include that all the world religions come from the same one God.
I’m an atheist who believes in science, art and the long, difficult process of returning the Earth to pre-industrial conditions. Why can’t I do what they’re doing but live with fellow Art, Science and Earth lovers?! WHERE ARE YOU?!?! I would join TODAY. Let’s setup a commune of fully sustainable-AND BEAUTIFUL-homes that run on solar. Let’s make the way we live a work of art in itself. Let’s pursue extremely advanced technology and SHARE IT with each other instead of propping up stupid businesses!
I have known about it all my life since my cousin on my mom's side joined the focolore in college in the 1960s. My mom felt it was very cultish when her cousin first joined because when she went to visit her cousin in Italy in the late 1960s- her cousin was NOT allowed to visit my mom unless 2 other focolare women were there supervising the entire time. Seemed like they were afraid to let my mom visit her cousin alone. Very, very creepy vibes my mom got!!! Here were are 50 years later and my cousin is still in the focolare. We rarely see her though. I always thought it was a place for gay people who don't want to come out of the closet. That is my view as an outsider. Maybe I'm wrong...who knows.
actually in the that we live in, I know that in education now we are told, please no longer have meeting with students alone in any setting. Make sure you have at least two other teachers to support you. The counselors offices now have full windows with no curtains and shades. I think people these days interpret all things through a prism of more secular understandings of relationships. Two men living together are gay. An older man with a younger man living together is a pedophile. I would be naive to say that things do happen in the negative way. Control and abuse are prevalent in any race, country or religion. Just this morning I was having a talk with one parent and she told me, WHY IS MY SON's coaching volunteering to take him to practice (both parents were working) I think guy might be a pervert. I nearly feel off my seat. Kindness now is always doubted. Yet if the guy was a sports man or musician and volunteer to host them for some concert of big game the parents would consider it an honor.
Check in with outside information before joining such a group. What do ex-members say? Does the group use guilt and fear to keep you in, or to persuade you to give them your life's savings? Why does it seem inevitable that even in the most well-meaning groups, someone's ego takes over, "judgment" of individuals ensues, and members are no longer equal. Be careful, folks.
Wow. Fascinating and interesting. Great reporting. Short but gives just enough information for me to research further on this movement- vw of poverty, chastity and obedience... Thank you.
As a child in the early fifties in southwest Ohio there was a community of religious women we called tht Grey Ladies. They participated in the mass every morning with us students at St. Columban School.
the world needs babies. this squanders the time that generations before set aside for raising children. one generation after another, unbroken. this breaks that chain of passing time down from families to families.
Parenthood is not for everyone. Even Paul recommended that people remain single if they can, so they can devote their lives fully to the Lord. Otherwise, wives concern themselves about their husbands, and husbands concern themselves about their wives. It’s a matter of what vocation the Holy Spirit is leading one to follow.
John Paul II loved the Focolare and had a close friendship with Chiara Lubich, its foundress. Also, the young saint, Blessed Chiara Badano was a member.
I’m definitely not catholic. I more the golden girl without some of the materialistic aspect of the lifestyle. Some of the ideas seems to be reasonable and do seem a little cultish. Nevertheless I’m not engaging with any of the chanting or any of the imposed lifestyle to each his/ her own do you.
In Italian, ‘ch’ is a hard sound like the letter ‘k’ makes. If you mention the whole movement’s founder but fail to properly pronounce her name it’s not a good look.
This happens all the time in our multi-lingual, multi-national world! Whenever an English speaking person pronounces a word or a name that comes originally from another language, it will not sound the same as it did in the original language. And the same is true for speakers of languages other than English! English words that are folded into modern Italian, for example, are pronounced by Italians differently than they would be by a British person, and different again than they would be by an American person, an Australian, etc. I think it's okay, inevitable, just one of those things that happen when different cultures and languages mix and learn from each other.
Focolare, Opus Dei, Neocatechumenal Way are all recognized movements in the Roman Catholic church that have consecrated lay faithful who make a promise or a vow to live in a share community. They are not religious (nuns, sisters, brothers or consecrated virgins) they are run of the mill faithful who choose to live their baptismal commitments more radically. The four woman that lived and care for the late great Pope Benedict were members of focolare and they cared for him doing his papacy and in retirement. Most popes had nuns. St. Pope John Paul had nuns who cared for him (cooking, cleaning, housework) and Pope Benedict had already been exposed to the Movement.
Key for me would be: are you permitted to have a companion animal? Notice I do not use the consumerist term "pet" -- but, throughout human history people have had domesticated animals like dogs or cats as members of their home, family ,and community.
Its interesting, poverty, chastity, and obedience are the vows of monasticism. But obedience is to ones Abbot/Abbess, so who are they obedient to if they don’t have a traditional monastic hierarchy? Do they have a spiritual mother/father at least?
@@sharonsolana Still a valid question, never mind your condescension. The objection would not be based on the presence of technology, but on the presence of possessions. A phone is a possession, after all. Your comment is really very stupid, despite the fact that you made it from an ego-based position of self-declared intelligence.
All are welcome and can live the spirituality of the Focolare Movement. The single people who take vows and live in community are just some...the vast majority are people who have families...there are also religious people...youth in school/university and people from other faiths who want to live this spirituality of mutual love and unity.
Why not have Lisa Ling cover the Tai-Ji-Men Qigong Academy, the True Buddha School, the Holy Church of the Heart-Only (also known as Weixin Shengjiao), The Church of Almighty God (also known as Eastern Lightning), United Submitters International, the Ahmadi Religion of Peace and Light, Perseus Arcane Academy and other religious movements?
" Has it been hard?" A question asked just as I was thinking, are they celibate as priests are? 😂 Oh sorry😐 But funny as hell to me, her asking him that AFTER asking about past relationships.🤭
Anything Lisa Ling does is exceptional.
I posted a rhetorical question as well.
@@estherbrown4084 mine is a statement and your run on sentence and opinions are separate from mine. Let’s keep it that way. Your beef is not my beef. Stop dragging people in your drama triangles.
This is video is Devine intervention for me, I’m 66 years old and been looking for a life such as this, I am overwhelmed to know a life for me is real. Jesus is working in my life and I want to honor Him all the rest of my days. And yes, Lisa Ling is exceptional. Jesus hear my prayer. Amen
As long as they don't shame others who consider leaving, it sounds like a very beautiful movement.
They said they’re free to leave and they stressed they work with other faiths.
No shaming, no shunning.
This is nice. These women of different culture and background all live together is nice.
Amazing to see my brothers and sisters from Focolare Movement. Greetings from Portugal 🇵🇹 were we also have the Focolare Movement. Thanks 🎉
I was introduced to the Focolare movement in college through my parents and the friends I made within the Focolare are some of my best friends and closest friends I will ever have. And the lessons we learned within the movement and because of our interactions with other cultures and faiths have made us better members of our communities 💯
This reminds me of how the Apostles lived in Acts. They shared everything.
The apostles of the Bible were political activists. They were highly pro active. They went on separate missions to spread the message of Jesus. The did not live in a commune
I lived communally for almost 15 years. All things held in common...our own businesses that supported the commune...members receiving a small monthly allowance each month and trusting God for our basic needs not met by the allowance. It was Evangelical, holiness centered. ... and cruelly abusive...physically, emotionally, psychologically and spiritually. In some of their centers there was sexual harassment and abuse. Like a horribly disfunctional family, I miss that "family" but am so glad to be free of these judgement, condemnation and abuse. I could never go back. Most of it's leaders were malignant narcissists who used their position for power and control, using God's Holy Writings to justify their abuse and cruelty.
Thanks for sharing
This is beautiful, I love how the movement emphasized being in the world and working for the greater good.
This is Beautiful 🎉 Thank you for featuring them🎉 I feel a sense of Peace from them 🎉Yes Buddhism of Nichiren Daishonin with the SGI teaches that Prospering is Giving Sustenance. Which runs counter to the normalized culture of GREED or Accumulation. 🎉Lots to ponder here. Christian women and thys the culture around them seem to focus solely on men providing, which those who lack insight into the error of their words has brought forth a normalized culture of GREED origin in their women. Thus, I predict many who claim to be of the same book will despise this approach. But it will assist in their must delayed evolution. 🎉Other questions. How is this different than nuns and priests? 🎉 May this take off in All faiths and may they observe how they prosper as well. To Prosper, I believe you need to be surrounded by some people with Appreciation and Empathy Intelligence or you'll starve🙏🏽
I think this is absolutely beautiful!
Lay monastics! a happy life
"Our first economy is from Gods providence." Amen.
Life long Catholic here and I have never heard of it. In today's society it's a good move for some people.
Makes sense to me.
Conscious, communal living that focuses on mutual respect, care, generosity, connection and humility is a good thing.
They are noble women, as they said, trying to liberate themselves from the culture of consumption. The Catholic church, as well as other religions, have the same spiritual teachings, such as "love thy neighbor as thyself." The teachings of the Baha'i Faith include that all the world religions come from the same one God.
Jesus is the only way.
John 14:6
I’m an atheist who believes in science, art and the long, difficult process of returning the Earth to pre-industrial conditions. Why can’t I do what they’re doing but live with fellow Art, Science and Earth lovers?! WHERE ARE YOU?!?! I would join TODAY. Let’s setup a commune of fully sustainable-AND BEAUTIFUL-homes that run on solar. Let’s make the way we live a work of art in itself. Let’s pursue extremely advanced technology and SHARE IT with each other instead of propping up stupid businesses!
They have a place like that in either Virginia, or West Virginia, I can't remember which, called Twin Oaks.
Earth ships!
We seriously need a return of the Hippies!
That will buy you 80 years of possible contentment. Then what? Without Jesus your ecology amounts to nothing, and all of life is meaningless.
I have known about it all my life since my cousin on my mom's side joined the focolore in college in the 1960s. My mom felt it was very cultish when her cousin first joined because when she went to visit her cousin in Italy in the late 1960s- her cousin was NOT allowed to visit my mom unless 2 other focolare women were there supervising the entire time. Seemed like they were afraid to let my mom visit her cousin alone. Very, very creepy vibes my mom got!!! Here were are 50 years later and my cousin is still in the focolare. We rarely see her though. I always thought it was a place for gay people who don't want to come out of the closet. That is my view as an outsider. Maybe I'm wrong...who knows.
actually in the that we live in, I know that in education now we are told, please no longer have meeting with students alone in any setting. Make sure you have at least two other teachers to support you. The counselors offices now have full windows with no curtains and shades. I think people these days interpret all things through a prism of more secular understandings of relationships. Two men living together are gay. An older man with a younger man living together is a pedophile. I would be naive to say that things do happen in the negative way. Control and abuse are prevalent in any race, country or religion. Just this morning I was having a talk with one parent and she told me, WHY IS MY SON's coaching volunteering to take him to practice (both parents were working) I think guy might be a pervert. I nearly feel off my seat. Kindness now is always doubted. Yet if the guy was a sports man or musician and volunteer to host them for some concert of big game the parents would consider it an honor.
Greetings from Canada. Great reporting. Very interesting. A lot to learn here.
Check in with outside information before joining such a group. What do ex-members say? Does the group use guilt and fear to keep you in, or to persuade you to give them your life's savings? Why does it seem inevitable that even in the most well-meaning groups, someone's ego takes over, "judgment" of individuals ensues, and members are no longer equal. Be careful, folks.
Sounds like you’ve lived in an HOA, yes? I’d avoid an HOA like the plague!
Wow. Fascinating and interesting. Great reporting. Short but gives just enough information for me to research further on this movement- vw of poverty, chastity and obedience... Thank you.
About the founder:
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As a child in the early fifties in southwest Ohio there was a community of religious women we called tht Grey Ladies. They participated in the mass every morning with us students at St. Columban School.
the world needs babies. this squanders the time that generations before set aside for raising children. one generation after another, unbroken. this breaks that chain of passing time down from families to families.
Parenthood is not for everyone. Even Paul recommended that people remain single if they can, so they can devote their lives fully to the Lord. Otherwise, wives concern themselves about their husbands, and husbands concern themselves about their wives. It’s a matter of what vocation the Holy Spirit is leading one to follow.
I like the idea of living in community and sharing and taking turns but I worry about cultishness
My Focolare movement is by myself.
Me also✝️😊
Community helps, though
Look up Hermits. It’s a lay religious movement as well, and they take the same vows. I’m autistic and prefer the solitude, myself.
Wow, i didn't think anyone followed Jesus teachings anymore. I am pleasantly surprised ❤
Great story! Thank you for sharing❤
If your goal is union with God, this life style is freeing. If you have another goal(s), it’s restrictive . No big mystery
Thank you 💓
Lovely ❤
Community ❤
Yes, the future is here.
Self sovereignty in the sanctity of our United human community.
This path does not have to be portrayed as radical. Seems an obvious option. ❤
Excellent will research more info!
We call it the Convent
Wow 😮 thanks for sharing
Well, if you’re going to believe be a giver, not a taker. Be benevolent not malevolent.
This is amazing
21st century nuns and monks
John Paul II loved the Focolare and had a close friendship with Chiara Lubich, its foundress. Also, the young saint, Blessed Chiara Badano was a member.
Very nice. Thank you
So interesting.....
I like this. Do we have a Focalare in the Philippines?
According to the Focolare Movement database there are many in the Philippines an active one is in Tagaytay that emphasizes interreligious dialogue.
Se podrá hacerlo en "Español"? Gracias
Sounds like a convent or monastery.
Sounds like a convent.
I’m definitely not catholic. I more the golden girl without some of the materialistic aspect of the lifestyle. Some of the ideas seems to be reasonable and do seem a little cultish. Nevertheless I’m not engaging with any of the chanting or any of the imposed lifestyle to each his/ her own do you.
In Italian, ‘ch’ is a hard sound like the letter ‘k’ makes. If you mention the whole movement’s founder but fail to properly pronounce her name it’s not a good look.
This happens all the time in our multi-lingual, multi-national world! Whenever an English speaking person pronounces a word or a name that comes originally from another language, it will not sound the same as it did in the original language. And the same is true for speakers of languages other than English! English words that are folded into modern Italian, for example, are pronounced by Italians differently than they would be by a British person, and different again than they would be by an American person, an Australian, etc. I think it's okay, inevitable, just one of those things that happen when different cultures and languages mix and learn from each other.
Focolare, Opus Dei, Neocatechumenal Way are all recognized movements in the Roman Catholic church that have consecrated lay faithful who make a promise or a vow to live in a share community. They are not religious (nuns, sisters, brothers or consecrated virgins) they are run of the mill faithful who choose to live their baptismal commitments more radically. The four woman that lived and care for the late great Pope Benedict were members of focolare and they cared for him doing his papacy and in retirement. Most popes had nuns. St. Pope John Paul had nuns who cared for him (cooking, cleaning, housework) and Pope Benedict had already been exposed to the Movement.
Key for me would be: are you permitted to have a companion animal? Notice I do not use the consumerist term "pet" -- but, throughout human history people have had domesticated animals like dogs or cats as members of their home, family ,and community.
❤️❤️❤️
I heard of the Focolare movement through a book by Cardinal Suenens
Its interesting, poverty, chastity, and obedience are the vows of monasticism. But obedience is to ones Abbot/Abbess, so who are they obedient to if they don’t have a traditional monastic hierarchy? Do they have a spiritual mother/father at least?
so there is a president of the movement (kind of like Chiara the founder) and she is there to communicate and handle internal matters :)
The Bible.
I'll do it, if they allow me to use my Iphone.
iPhones are permitted
@@mariahwilliams9530 Trump Trump
@ he doesn’t know they exist
This is not an Amish group.
@@sharonsolana Still a valid question, never mind your condescension. The objection would not be based on the presence of technology, but on the presence of possessions. A phone is a possession, after all. Your comment is really very stupid, despite the fact that you made it from an ego-based position of self-declared intelligence.
I love it all except for the no marriage aspect. No way.
Some are married. That was discussed towards the end of the piece.
All are welcome and can live the spirituality of the Focolare Movement. The single people who take vows and live in community are just some...the vast majority are people who have families...there are also religious people...youth in school/university and people from other faiths who want to live this spirituality of mutual love and unity.
This is religion re-invented, nothing more...
Lots less creepy than Opus Dei.
I’ll see this on an episode of Law & Order.
LOL😂😂😂😂😂
😊
Modern day nuns
So they're nuns and monks.
Just because they are free to leave doesn’t mean it’s not a cult.
A modern day commune
I'd like to see their Amazon wishlist.
lay monastic? Jesus movement of the 60?
Monks nuns brothers etc… Not exactly novel
What if you're already in a cult? 😉
NOPE.
Why not have Lisa Ling cover the Tai-Ji-Men Qigong Academy, the True Buddha School, the Holy Church of the Heart-Only (also known as Weixin Shengjiao), The Church of Almighty God (also known as Eastern Lightning), United Submitters International, the Ahmadi Religion of Peace and Light, Perseus Arcane Academy and other religious movements?
So basically they are NUNS AND PRIESTS
" Has it been hard?" A question asked just as I was thinking, are they celibate as priests are? 😂 Oh sorry😐 But funny as hell to me, her asking him that AFTER asking about past relationships.🤭